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marco226

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 12/19/11 7:21 PM (permalink)
i have been hearing about a power inverter in trucks. do i need one?
 
    THE WILD DOG

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    Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 12/19/11 7:24 PM (permalink)
    if you want to run stuff off a 12v battery you will. if not, no
     
      Dr of BBQ

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      Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 12/19/11 8:23 PM (permalink)
      Wild Dog is right..........But where the hell are his pictures LMAO. But if your going from one location to another and want to keep food hot using electric or food cold in a reach in you'll need that or a generator. Speaking of which I just bought a 10,000 watt surge 8000 watt continues generator for $400.00. But I spent another $75.00 driving to pick it up. It's got a 13 hp motor, electric start, battery, and is new, from Craig s List. And the soul purpose in buying the generator was so that I could take my step van to someones house and or office and do parties. I also have one event that I'll try next year that has no electric hook ups. But otherwise it's just for catering. Oh and by the way I have come to the conclusion that the water pumps that I have been buying in the past are not going into my step van. In my trailer I use to water pumps that are built for lawn sprinkling or fresh water wells. And they are expensive but run and last well but take a ton of watts to operate. So I'm going to the 12 volt water pumps on this build.  I'll just go to Radio shack and buy a small converter to wire them into my 120 volt system.
      Jack
      <message edited by Dr of BBQ on Tue, 12/20/11 7:22 AM>
       
        THE WILD DOG

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        Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 12/19/11 10:14 PM (permalink)
        Jack, you could also just hard wire it to the battery. That's my next move. I have so many wires leading to my battery that when I put a new one in, I hooked the wrong ones up and mixed match.. Now I have to trace them out. Talk about SUCK!
         
         
          Dr of BBQ

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          Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 12/19/11 11:17 PM (permalink)
          The converter from radio shack is like $6.95 and then you just plug it in to the closest 120 volt receptacle . But of course your right you can run it straight off your battery. Good point.
           
          Another thing that I have learned from living in my (1st build ) trailer for more than 5 years is don't buy or build a bunch of storage spaces that don't have doors. If you take any standard SS table and place equipment on top of it and use the bottom shelf for storage, it'll work. And SS always looks good.
           
          BUT you'll also end up moving all the items your storing, and fight to clean the walls behind the storage shelf often. You'll also have to try and scrub around the back table legs and between the table legs and walls. If on the other hand you build cabinets with doors you don't have to tie everything down when you move and the dust, grease, and any other airborne contaminants won't get into that area, or at least not as quickly.If you do build cabinets choose your wood very carefully, don't go to some box store and buy off the shelf. You'll end up with press board boxes that will swell and fall apart at the first hint of ran. LOL or a leaking plumbing part or serious cleaning.
           
          I'm a clean freak and I hate paying employees to do a half ass job and that's what the majority will do when asked to get into some hard to reach area or awkward position  to clean the lower half of the trailer. They end up doing a so-so job and those are the places the HD looks at if they can't find anything else. In Illinois or at least in Springfield the health department has a rule if your inspected 3 times and you don't have any violations you only get one inspection per year. But it's a surprise inspection and so you had better be ready any time your open, or you lose the Gold Medal Award and have to go another year to earn it back. I like that it gives the HD more time to inspect the bad boys and gives me less worry. But if I want to keep the good score I have to keep my place spotless.
          Jack
           
          PS (Build cabinets with doors).......And this is especially true of your under sink area.......but remember you'll need to get to the equipment from time to time so if you completely close up an area, do it with four self taping screws and a screw gun so you can open it up in a heartbeat. Nothing breaks down or leaks until 11:00 just minutes before the noon rush. So you need to repair or replace it in minutes not hours. 
          <message edited by Dr of BBQ on Tue, 12/20/11 7:26 AM>
           
            marco226

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            Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 12/20/11 1:10 PM (permalink)
            pics are cominng just got a new camera. as soon as i figure out how to use it iwll send them to you.
            i saw some where there is a formula to figure out the wattage of the generator you need.
            does anyone know it?
             
             
              Dr of BBQ

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              Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 12/20/11 2:06 PM (permalink)
              There is a search box at the top of the page.
              If you use it you'll find this link
              http://www.roadfood.com/F...THREAD-m669837-p2.aspx
               
                marco226

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                Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 12/21/11 9:52 PM (permalink)
                i saw a 7500w silent propane generator from duro power
                for 1200.00 what do you guys think?
                 
                 
                  Dr of BBQ

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                  Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 12/21/11 10:28 PM (permalink)
                  DuroMax 10000 Watt Portable Generator w/ Wheel Kit and Electric Start Carb Approved - XP10000E

                  http://autocarsuperstore.com/product/11157_DuroMax-XP10000E-10000-Watt-16-HP-OHV-4-Cycle-Gas-Powered-Portable-Generator-With-Wheel-Kit-And-Electric-Start.html
                  $860 online

                  The Dr of BBQ
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                    marco226

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                    Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 12/21/11 10:47 PM (permalink)
                    thank you Dr. my truck is diesel. do you think a gas generator will be ok?
                     
                      THE WILD DOG

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                      Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 12/21/11 11:09 PM (permalink)
                      if you put gas in instead of diesel it will be fine, I'm not sure how having a diesel truck would affect a gas generator though, unless you plan on tying in the gas lines to fuel the genny, which i don't recommend, b/c if you run the gen dry you run your tank dry and you have to consider that it takes 1/10 of your tank to start and run your truck.  
                       
                      http://www.saferwholesale...3_fmlK0CFcfe4AodOF68OQ
                       
                       
                        THE WILD DOG

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                        Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 12/21/11 11:10 PM (permalink)
                        also,  propane genny's take around 20lbs per 8 hours of run time at half load, so you will be constantly running it to keep everything cold on the drive home and empty pockets in no time from having the tank or tanks refilled
                         
                          Dr of BBQ

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                          Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 12/21/11 11:36 PM (permalink)
                          All I know about the brand is a guy that's been and still is in the vending business here in Illinois swears by the them. In fact from his profits on his vending circuit he bought a dealership. But WildDog is right on the money with his post, both of them. I think the bigger generator or I should say the biggest generator you can afford is like an ace in the hole. Your not going to work it to death and your not going to hurt your electric equipment because your trying to pull more than your generator can produce. Do a search here on Road Food (it may be in the Food Truck thread ) but do the search it'll be faster and look for generators. I posted a couple fairly long threads from guys that know a lot about generators. Lorna has had a ton of experience with generators also. I only bought the generator I just bought because it had zero hours on it and it was dirt cheap. To tell the truth I plan on selling this one in the spring for double what I paid for it and buying the same unit I posted to this thread.
                          Jack
                           
                            marco226

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                            Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 12/28/11 1:36 PM (permalink)
                            thank you so much for the info. i was looking at the xp8500e generator.
                            it is 200 less than the xp10000e. do you think that's enough power.
                            i am only going to have fan for the hood small sanwhich unit, microwave,lights,
                            water pump and no freezer maybe an undercounter refrig. any thoughts
                             
                              Dr of BBQ

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                              Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 12/28/11 2:31 PM (permalink)
                              Marco,
                              No one here can answer that question. You have to take each piece of equipment and figure out the Amps it uses, then add them up and use a conversion table to find to find out the number of watts you'll need to get from your generator. If it doesn't say on the piece of equipment do a search on line and hunt down the information that way. It'll take some time but it will save your making a wrong move and wasting money if you do it correctly.
                               
                                Chicnscoop

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                                Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 12/28/11 4:37 PM (permalink)
                                Dr of BBQ - good find. That is the same generator that Northern tool sells for $999.00. It is made overseas. I have been checking it out because it has a 50A 220 recpt.  I have a leaf blower with the same make of engine on it and I have not had any problems with that but being forign made it may be difficult to get repair parts. You never know - most 10kw generators are almost $2k.
                                 
                                  marco226

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                                  Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 12/28/11 5:04 PM (permalink)
                                  i am such an idiot. good thing i called the manufacture.
                                  they are telling me that i can not enclose an air cooled generator in my truck
                                  because it will overheat. truck came with a gerator box. i need a liquid cooled
                                  generator. back to square one. any thoughts.
                                   
                                    Buck & Vi's

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                                    Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 12/28/11 7:39 PM (permalink)
                                    i've  ran a freezer, sandwich prep table, steam table, hood fan, micro wave, coffee pot,fridge, cash register,lights, on a 6500 troybilt genset, yes its noisy! but its like a timex watch still keeps tickin......i'm not saying yours will run the same but just what worked for me..my.02 worth
                                     
                                      Barbeque barn

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                                      Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 12/28/11 11:06 PM (permalink)
                                      Dr of BBQ

                                      Hey Doc got to Tractor Suppy and get a muffler and pipe to extend the muffler above the roof line and it will run quieter and direct the noise away from the customers.
                                      Wild Dog is right..........But where the hell are his pictures LMAO. But if your going from one location to another and want to keep food hot using electric or food cold in a reach in you'll need that or a generator. Speaking of which I just bought a 10,000 watt surge 8000 watt continues generator for $400.00. But I spent another $75.00 driving to pick it up. It's got a 13 hp motor, electric start, battery, and is new, from Craig s List. And the soul purpose in buying the generator was so that I could take my step van to someones house and or office and do parties. I also have one event that I'll try next year that has no electric hook ups. But otherwise it's just for catering. Oh and by the way I have come to the conclusion that the water pumps that I have been buying in the past are not going into my step van. In my trailer I use to water pumps that are built for lawn sprinkling or fresh water wells. And they are expensive but run and last well but take a ton of watts to operate. So I'm going to the 12 volt water pumps on this build.  I'll just go to Radio shack and buy a small converter to wire them into my 120 volt system.
                                      Jack


                                       
                                        mofood

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                                        Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Thu, 12/29/11 5:25 PM (permalink)
                                        Great build thread! Thanks for taking the time to document this for all the aspiring mobile vendors.
                                        I'm currently building a '96 Intl 16 ft step van. It's cold here in SLC!
                                        (post count: 1) :)
                                         
                                         
                                          mofood

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                                          Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Thu, 12/29/11 5:39 PM (permalink)
                                          My research into generators lead me down the diesel path.
                                          1. Truck is diesel. I can fuel from a single tank.
                                          2. I spoke with a seasoned food purveyor (friend of a friend) that insisted I look at diesels.
                                          3. Spoke with my friend that specializes in power, he recommended a liquid cooled diesel after some of his own research.
                                          4. A liquid cooled generator gives me some interior heating options.
                                          5. (edit) I can enclose this and insulate to reduce noise further. Providing proper venting, of course.
                                          6. BIG drawback...cost $$$. I was shocked by this. My build estimate didn't include enough funds for this big hitter!
                                          Ended up with Onan Quiet Diesel 8000. Drove a long way to get a good deal on a low hour RV salvage unit.
                                          .02
                                          <message edited by mofood on Thu, 12/29/11 5:42 PM>
                                           
                                            BTM676

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                                            Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Sat, 01/7/12 10:30 PM (permalink)
                                            I'm just throwing this post out there....but where is reese? lol I hope everything is ok.
                                             
                                              reese77

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                                              Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 01/31/12 5:24 PM (permalink)
                                              Had some time to do some work.
                                              - Put up another panel of FRP on ceiling, I am trying to find FRP ceiling trim, like a wide inside corner trim piece but no luck.
                                              - Cut hole for the rear RV window, will install once I cover the rear inside door with FRP.
                                              - Built upper cabinet, I need to cover the inside with FRP and build doors.

                                               

                                               

                                               

                                               

                                               
                                                CajunKing

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                                                Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Thu, 02/2/12 7:24 PM (permalink)
                                                Reese
                                                 
                                                What about using PVC trim.
                                                 
                                                It comes in various forms, or in board and you can custom fit your needs.
                                                Check your local big box lumber yard for it.
                                                 
                                                  greg198

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                                                  Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Fri, 02/3/12 3:46 AM (permalink)
                                                  Reese Are you going to use stainless steel doors for the cabinets, I was looking into how I could find premade cabinet doors and realized I could use barbeque Island cabinet stainless doors just an idea. Im still in the process of trying to find a company that sells it cheaper online I found out that lowes sells a specific size for $200.00  2ftx3ft opening but they can do special order sizes also.
                                                  <message edited by greg198 on Fri, 02/3/12 3:57 AM>
                                                   
                                                    greg198

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                                                    Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Fri, 02/3/12 4:08 AM (permalink)
                                                    Marco 226
                                                    If you are going to buy an inverter get the one from harbor freight tools I got the 5,000/10,000 inverter and plan on running my two refrigerators off of six 6volt deep cycle batteries. Cost will come out to being the same amount of using a generator but you end up avoiding the noisy and smelly generator.
                                                    <message edited by greg198 on Fri, 02/3/12 4:10 AM>
                                                     
                                                      Dr of BBQ

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                                                      Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Fri, 02/3/12 7:29 AM (permalink)
                                                      greg198
                                                      stainless steel doors for the cabinets I found out that lowes sells a specific size for $200.00  2ftx3ft opening but they can do special order sizes also.

                                                       
                                                      Do a search here on RF for the Challenger Door Company in northern Indiana they will custom make your doors much cheaper, than you'd ever dream. Or is it Champion Door I forgot? One or the other.
                                                       
                                                        reese77

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                                                        Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Fri, 02/3/12 9:06 AM (permalink)
                                                        CajunKing


                                                        Reese

                                                        What about using PVC trim.

                                                        It comes in various forms, or in board and you can custom fit your needs.
                                                        Check your local big box lumber yard for it.

                                                        Thanks for the tip, I found some PVC trim that would be perfect. http://epiplastics.thomas...low-panel-trims/p0250?
                                                         
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                                                          Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Fri, 02/3/12 9:10 AM (permalink)
                                                          greg198


                                                          Reese Are you going to use stainless steel doors for the cabinets, I was looking into how I could find premade cabinet doors and realized I could use barbeque Island cabinet stainless doors just an idea. Im still in the process of trying to find a company that sells it cheaper online I found out that lowes sells a specific size for $200.00  2ftx3ft opening but they can do special order sizes also.

                                                           
                                                          I saw the stainless patio BBQ cabinets and doors but as you said they were all too pricey. I will check out Challenger but for this cabinet, I will make the doors out of wood, frp and aluminum trim like the cabinet itself.
                                                           
                                                          After I started the cabinet build I found this on Ebay but I decided just to keep building versus buying.
                                                           
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                                                            Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Fri, 02/3/12 4:39 PM (permalink)
                                                            Almost done with rear door, need to trim and fill. I cut the opening a bit to large so there is a gap at the top.

                                                             

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