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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/19 17:10:31 (permalink)
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Ooooh, I like those! Those seem to be the type that everyone here is looking for. Link???

 
These are FanTech 2SHE1021, 10". They have 12" too.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/22 01:10:18 (permalink)
Hey Guys..Daniel here from Alberta Canada. I have been following this forum (Reese77) for a while now..wife found the website because i didn't know how to cut a window out.. 
 
I bought a 1990 Chevy Grumman Route from a local guy.. wasn't running and no keys...bought it and got it towed..have been tinkering with it for a while...
Big question: I had my buddy(laborer for an electrical outfit company)..do the electrical work....100 amp circuit panel from a junk yard mobile home.. How in the hell do i do the grounding in a Van with rubber tires..do i buy a plate and leave it on the ground?? do i dig a hole where ever i go or stop?? Guys please help me out..
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/22 02:46:10 (permalink)
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Hey Guys..Daniel here from Alberta Canada. I have been following this forum (Reese77) for a while now..wife found the website because i didn't know how to cut a window out.. 

I bought a 1990 Chevy Grumman Route from a local guy.. wasn't running and no keys...bought it and got it towed..have been tinkering with it for a while...
Big question: I had my buddy(laborer for an electrical outfit company)..do the electrical work....100 amp circuit panel from a junk yard mobile home.. How in the hell do i do the grounding in a Van with rubber tires..do i buy a plate and leave it on the ground?? do i dig a hole where ever i go or stop?? Guys please help me out..

 
Danny,
 
I am no electrician (and I am sure someone will remind me that I am not soon) but when I had the same question, I posted a question in an electrician forum and several experts replied and said to ground my generator to the truck body/under carriage and then run the standard ground wire from the 30 Amp outlet to my circuit breaker. However, check with an electrician.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/22 09:34:44 (permalink)
funny... my electrician said that my generator was grounded to the frame of the unit, but to be on the safe side, if I can, to ground it to a pole if I am near it. I am running 50amps though, said the tires alone will ground the truck.  Speaking of which, I smoked my generator already. LOL I enclosed the wrong ends ( thinking the control panel end was the front and turns out that is the side)  So Amazon sending me a new one, and I've already got replacement parts for the old one since I smoked the volt meter regulator and the brushes. So i got two generators now...  lol
 
 Reese, if possible can you post a pic of the inside of your cabinets ? I build some too and want to know if and how you skinned the inside or if you just painted it. I frp'd the outside like yours as well.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/22 10:18:27 (permalink)
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funny... my electrician said that my generator was grounded to the frame of the unit, but to be on the safe side, if I can, to ground it to a pole if I am near it. I am running 50amps though, said the tires alone will ground the truck.  Speaking of which, I smoked my generator already. LOL I enclosed the wrong ends ( thinking the control panel end was the front and turns out that is the side)  So Amazon sending me a new one, and I've already got replacement parts for the old one since I smoked the volt meter regulator and the brushes. So i got two generators now...  lol

Reese, if possible can you post a pic of the inside of your cabinets ? I build some too and want to know if and how you skinned the inside or if you just painted it. I frp'd the outside like yours as well.

 
I FRP'd the insides, I will take a pic and post.
 
 
TWD,
 
Here is a pic of the cabinet. I still need to finish the doors.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/22 11:15:58 (permalink)
reese77   I posted a question in an electrician forum and several experts replied and said to ground my generator to the truck body/under carriage and then run the standard ground wire from the 30 Amp outlet to my circuit breaker. However, check with an electrician.

 
Circuit breaker on the generator, or on the box?
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/22 14:06:10 (permalink)
The generator is bonded to the chassis of the truck. Really, the generator itself is the ground, but, you still need to ground to the chassis. I had a discussion with a few experts about this. You certainly don't want to shock anyone!
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/22 14:21:03 (permalink)
Cajuntown Station here. 27 years old and new to roadfood.com. I have been reading the forums for a while.
I am in the process of building a fajita truck. Recently purchased a 1986 Chevrolet P30 Step Van, V8, 350. Been in the festival circuit for a few years now as an easy-up/tent/camping style vendor and excited to make the business 'mobile.' Based in Boone, NC in Watauga, Co.
Time for my input. I also have purchased a 36" AWP flat top. I plan to use an NSF 48"x30" SS equipment stand. I plan on getting by with just the flat top and eventually a 12" wide 2 burner. All running off LP gas.
There is a difference between an 'equipment stand' and standard stainless steel tables. The equipment stands are reinforced to support a much heavier load and often times shorter height. They also have a raised edge on three sides. Possibly install the stand with the edge at the front, closest to the cook? Just an idea...
I look forward to the advice and discussions. Thanks yall!
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/24 21:25:17 (permalink)
Hey guys..Thankyou for all the info about the grounding issue..I spoke to a few electricians in town where I live..being a tiny town and no street food whatsoever,none of them has a proper answer to it..one electrician said go buy a ground plate and drive over it,the other one said..use a jack on the side of the truck with a iron pole and jab it into the ground..I dont know how good aluminum is for ground conduct...but I still want to know how 100's of these food trucks stop,roll up the window and start selling without any grounding issues..like reese77 said I believe that the chasis is the ground..
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/24 21:31:48 (permalink)
To Dr of BBQ, grounding for my circuit panel box which I installed on the rear driver side between the last beam and the back door.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/24 22:25:32 (permalink)
My panel is grounded to the frame of the trailer.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/25 08:57:51 (permalink)
dannymailin To Dr of BBQ, grounding for my circuit panel box which I installed on the rear driver side between the last beam and the back door.

 
I asked because I was curious , on a trailer/truck hooked to local power you use a 4 wire system and the ground goes from the breaker box to the power pole and it's grounded at the pole. But with a generator I'd assume (don't know for sure) again I assume it would be grounded at the generator to the frame???? If I get time today I'll do some online research. But you make a good point about food trucks they roll up and go to work. And my city would never let me drive a ground stake into a public street. LOL They would throw a fit.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/25 09:10:21 (permalink)
Come to think about it you'd ground it just like an RV running a generator.
 
 
http://www.rv-motorhome-a...com/power-systems.html
 
The RV grounding actually takes place at the power receptacle where we plug in. Using shoreline cords, power adapters and faulty extension cords can result in reversed polarity so the 110 wiring in the RV NEUTRAL is totally isolated from ground. Why? In the case of reverse polarity a short could feed power to neutral and the RV chassis if neutral and ground were connected creating a dangerous possibility. Thus the difference in wiring. (Note: AC ground in RV goes to RV chassis)
 
Another site and good answer : http://www.rvforum.net/SM...ndex.php?topic=31443.0
 
The purpose of using a ground rod on a service is for lightning protection not to handle fault current, the ground wire is bonded to the neutral at the point of service so fault current has a good solid low resistance path back to the point of generation. The ground rod will provide a path but it will be high resistance and vary depending on the moisture in the soil, the ground rods most important job is the help with lightning protection because the point of generation is the earth not the generation plant. When you are running your generator it is the point of generation so the ground wire and frame should be bonded to the neutral at that point. When you are shore power the separate ground wire not neutral will go all the way back to the point of service where it's bonded to the neutral and ground rod for a good fault current path. So no you don't need a ground rod unless you are worried about lightning and then you don't want to be the best ground around anyway, your tires are good insulators and just put plastic or wood pads under your stabilizers to help isolate the rig from the ground and enjoy your RV trips.

 

« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2010, 09:04:55 AM »


Actually the National Electrical Code (NEC) likes to have an electrical subsystem (which would include an RV) bonded to ground via the feed, which is the shore power line in this case. However, they do make some exceptions for farm/barn wiring an such, so the definition of the "right" answer for an RV could be argued.

When using a portable generator, a local ground rod MAY be recommended in some situation but generally is NOT. See the OSHA article below for a summary - much easier to read than the NEC. The generator installed in a motorhome is not really portable, but it does meet the OSHA requirements by having everything grounded to its chassis, so no earth ground is required. Bottom line is that you need not worry.

http://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/data_Hurricane_Facts/grounding_port_generator.pdf

Are you using a portable genset in the toyhauler or is it factory-installed?  If factory installed, it likely meets the requirements of NEC and OSHA for generator wiring. The RVIA standards cross reference to the NEC for electrical wiring.


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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/25 11:16:52 (permalink)
One fan installed, need to trim the outside with flat 2" x 1/6" aluminum.

 

 
Roof top A/C & Heat unit just arrived. Everything looks smaller online.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/25 12:31:09 (permalink)
Think about putting som drain holes in your cabinets, it will save you cleaning time. Also, just put a metal lip maybe 2 inches to hold what ever inside. Remember tht will save you alot of sanitary headaches. Nooks and crannys SUCK and the HD hates them.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/25 13:07:17 (permalink)
Roof top A/C & Heat unit just arrived. Everything looks smaller online.
 
That's so true and online they all weigh less also . Your fan looks great good job.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/26 01:46:38 (permalink)
I actually feel important and valued in this forum..THANKYOU..The responses i got were very informative and valuable..Dr of BBQ.

Last summer I found a food truck 15 minutes away from my town..gassing up at a gas station..very reluctantly I approached the owner who was pumping gas and asked him about his business..he said he has no time to discuss at the moment but if I can follow him to the next town where he was going to setup he would answer my questions..
when I arrived at his location a few minutes later..He called me in and asked me if I was planning to buy a food truck..I told him more like doing the truck myself..he said "Now u seen my location and what I sell ..if I see you with a food truck around this area competing against me I will shoot you in the head" I walked away.

Due to that psychotic experience I was hesitating to ask for help regarding the truck build..but this forum and you guys are amazing. Keep up the good work..ill be hanging around to ask and answer.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/26 03:02:04 (permalink)
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I actually feel important and valued in this forum..THANKYOU..The responses i got were very informative and valuable..Dr of BBQ.

Last summer I found a food truck 15 minutes away from my town..gassing up at a gas station..very reluctantly I approached the owner who was pumping gas and asked him about his business..he said he has no time to discuss at the moment but if I can follow him to the next town where he was going to setup he would answer my questions..
when I arrived at his location a few minutes later..He called me in and asked me if I was planning to buy a food truck..I told him more like doing the truck myself..he said "Now u seen my location and what I sell ..if I see you with a food truck around this area competing against me I will shoot you in the head" I walked away.

Due to that psychotic experience I was hesitating to ask for help regarding the truck build..but this forum and you guys are amazing. Keep up the good work..ill be hanging around to ask and answer.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/26 11:59:32 (permalink)
Sounds like somebody was insecure about how good his product was. I LOVE and WELCOME any and all competition. If they try me they will go broke!
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/26 14:13:06 (permalink)
Hmmmmmm....I guess I need help getting this A/C unit on top of the truck. I wish I was back in CA, I could go to Home Depot and get a few migrant workers to help. I may just build a pulley system out of 4x4s and a pully. I have to go Wiley Coyote style....lol

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/26 15:19:51 (permalink)
First the serious business how much does your AC unit weigh?
 
Now for the "migrant workers" I love it.
 
And anyone that has a brain has to like Wiley Coyote but didn't you want the AC unit to run after you got it up there?
I don't remember him ever having a successful venture. LOL I mean his stuff always blew up or something worse.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/26 15:25:19 (permalink)
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I actually feel important and valued in this forum..THANKYOU..The responses i got were very informative and valuable..Dr of BBQ. .He called me in and  I see you with a food truck around this area competing against me I will shoot you in the head" I walked away. you guys are amazing. Keep up the good work..ill be hanging around to ask and answer.

 
I would not worry about him. The guys that you should be concerned about are those that don't tell you they are going to shoot you. Those that threaten you are just a big bluff. I have never told those that I was going to shoot in advance. LOL
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/26 17:48:10 (permalink)
oh man, I see bad things happening in that pic, ONE your  back... two your a/c unit & 3 your paint job... Man be careful
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/26 20:06:21 (permalink)
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Hmmmmmm....I guess I need help getting this A/C unit on top of the truck. I wish I was back in CA, I could go to Home Depot and get a few migrant workers to help. I may just build a pulley system out of 4x4s and a pully. I have to go Wiley Coyote style....lol



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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/26 20:40:06 (permalink)
I looked at a video on u toob and the guy mentioned standing in the bed of a pickup truck and lifting onto the truck. I pulled my father in laws truck next to the food truck and dragged the ac unit into the bed. It is dark now but tomorrow, I will have a neighbor help me lift it from the bed onto the roof of the truck.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/26 22:11:18 (permalink)
yeah man be careful. I had amazon send me a new generator b/c mine was acting up and I had to de-mount the old one by myself and install the new one by myself, 250lbs TWICE sucks... I'm paying for it now, I think i pinched a nerve in my shoulder blade... I can't even take a deep breath without feeling like my chest is going to cave in...  how much that thing weigh ?
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/26 22:36:14 (permalink)
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yeah man be careful. I had amazon send me a new generator b/c mine was acting up and I had to de-mount the old one by myself and install the new one by myself, 250lbs TWICE sucks... I'm paying for it now, I think i pinched a nerve in my shoulder blade... I can't even take a deep breath without feeling like my chest is going to cave in...  how much that thing weigh ?

 
103lbs but it is awkward to lift, I cannot get a hold on it due to the shape, that is the main issue. Specs
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/27 00:00:37 (permalink)
dang thats alot of amps... 10.6, I'm running out of amps, my gen will be putting out close to 45 now. Will have to see  how the summer goes this year before I splurge on an AC unit, Between my fryer & my steamer, oh and my water heater, thats like 7500 watts and 35 amps just for the three not including the other stuff..
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dang thats alot of amps... 10.6, I'm running out of amps, my gen will be putting out close to 45 now. Will have to see  how the summer goes this year before I splurge on an AC unit, Between my fryer & my steamer, oh and my water heater, thats like 7500 watts and 35 amps just for the three not including the other stuff..

 
I do not have too much running on electric. Water heater will only be turned on when I need to use. Exhaust fans will only be turned on when I an using griddle, lights will only be on at night. GA summers are humid and I am a big guy, I need AC.....Sandwich prep and refrigerator will be on all the time but I calculated the watt usage. I am good to go.
 
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2012/04/27 10:16:36 (permalink)
A/C unit is in. My neighbor helped me lift it onto the roof...it only took a few seconds, all it took was one other person...not a one man job.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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