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nwcw2001

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Thu, 05/26/11 1:08 AM (permalink)
You might want to check out this company. It is a bit cheaper, signsupply.com
 
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    Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Thu, 05/26/11 10:26 AM (permalink)
    I am working on a 1980 p30 right now thanks for all the good info...keep it up.
     
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      Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Fri, 05/27/11 3:34 PM (permalink)
      nwcw2001


      Hey Maurice, do you have a link to that Ebay Store?

      Yup. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eB...PageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
       
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        Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Sun, 05/29/11 11:48 PM (permalink)
        What type of hot water heater, electric or propane.  Where did you purchase?
        Great looking build.  Wish I had the talent.
         
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          Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 05/30/11 1:03 AM (permalink)
          Gilj


          What type of hot water heater, electric or propane.  Where did you purchase?
          Great looking build.  Wish I had the talent.

          Electric. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006GVO12
           
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            Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 05/30/11 12:39 PM (permalink)
            Will the hd allow a water heater that small?
            That would be ok for just hand washing, but you will never have enough hot water to wash dishes.
            Better check on the size requirements before you install,
             
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              Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 05/30/11 1:15 PM (permalink)
              Hey guys, i was at my local electric/plumbing store (grovers) and i found those bulkhead fittings for around $5.00. Just got done running another outlet on my rig.. can't wait when i re-do my panels so i can run all the electric BEHIND the panels. I suggest you flush mount all your outlets as well Reese every inch of space you preserve matters!
                   I'm with Chef Buba on this one, i have a 6 gallon electric water heater and my HD did some math formula that they use and said i barely pass for an 8-hour a day operation.  I think i might switch over to a propane water heater very soon because of the massive power consumption of the electric one... or maybe even a tankless. Lot's of helpful advice on here guys and good job on your build so far Reese! If i was nearby i'd definitely lend a helping hand.
               
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                Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 05/30/11 2:06 PM (permalink)
                chefbuba


                Will the hd allow a water heater that small?
                That would be ok for just hand washing, but you will never have enough hot water to wash dishes.
                Better check on the size requirements before you install,

                 
                I feel like an idiot. This whole entire time I thought I purchased a tankless water heater and I just now notice the 2.5 gallon capacity. I am going to see if I can return to Amazon and buy a tankless.
                I am going to buy an LP steam table and grill versus electric to save on having to buy a large generator. If I purchase a tankless LP hot water heater, what is the best model for being mounted under a sink? The models I have seen in other thread are all vented to the outside of the truck.
                <message edited by reese77 on Mon, 05/30/11 5:52 PM>
                 
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                  reese77

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                  Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 05/30/11 7:44 PM (permalink)
                  Plumbing.
                   

                   

                   

                   
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                    BackAlleyBurger

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                    Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 05/31/11 2:27 AM (permalink)
                    be ready to rip out that plumbing, most tankless heaters ive seen plumb from the bottom, or very low on the side....
                    go on ebay and do a search for 8L tankless water heater and you should find what i think is the perfect thing for what your doing.... they even have models that are stainless steel
                     
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                      Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 05/31/11 2:29 AM (permalink)
                      well, not all of it, but about half from what i see... shouldnt be too bad though
                       
                      here ya go, under 150 bucks, and it includes free shipping.....
                       
                      http://cgi.ebay.com/8L-GAS-TANKLESS-INSTANT-HOT-WATER-HEATER-LPG-STAINLESSa-/290514644091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a405ac7b#ht_8523wt_1139
                      <message edited by BackAlleyBurger on Tue, 05/31/11 2:33 AM>
                       
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                        Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 05/31/11 6:23 AM (permalink)
                        BackAlleyBurger


                        well, not all of it, but about half from what i see... shouldnt be too bad though

                        here ya go, under 150 bucks, and it includes free shipping.....

                        http://cgi.ebay.com/8L-GAS-TANKLESS-INSTANT-HOT-WATER-HEATER-LPG-STAINLESSa-/290514644091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a405ac7b#ht_8523wt_1139

                        Thanks.
                         
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                          Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 05/31/11 6:31 AM (permalink)
                          BackAlleyBurger


                          well, not all of it, but about half from what i see... shouldnt be too bad though

                          here ya go, under 150 bucks, and it includes free shipping.....

                          http://cgi.ebay.com/8L-GAS-TANKLESS-INSTANT-HOT-WATER-HEATER-LPG-STAINLESSa-/290514644091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a405ac7b#ht_8523wt_1139

                          After further thought, I think I want to go electric. I do not want to pipe LP to that side of the food truck. Based on my design, I planned to have a 100lb tank mounted on the driver rear and piped through for the steam table and griddle. I would have to do some elaborate piping underneath the truck to cleanly divert LP to the passenger side and under the sink. Also the LP heaters need to vent and I do not think this will work under my sink.
                           
                          I was looking at this model but I am trying to find the most energy efficient one.
                           
                          http://www.amazon.com/Rhe...=1306837584&sr=8-1
                           
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                            nwcw2001

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                            Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 05/31/11 11:09 AM (permalink)
                            Thanks so much Bruce! Mine is on the way!
                             
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                              Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 05/31/11 11:42 AM (permalink)
                              This is great.  I am considering an LP heater, thanks for the feedback, I have bookmarked this link, will most likely go with LP, but like reese77 not sure I want to divert gas to the other side of the trailer, and then still have to worry about venting issue.  Hate to put a hole in the trailer..........
                               
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                                Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 05/31/11 11:44 AM (permalink)
                                Reese77, keep us informed if you find an efficient electric model.  I also don't want to run a gas line to the opposite side, and have to worry about venting, would prefer to keep electric, but not at the cost of getting a larger generator.  Great posts.
                                 
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                                  Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 05/31/11 11:56 AM (permalink)
                                  Reese77, I am gonna close the back roll-up door and put the cook top/fryer/burner on the back wall and then run the gas to the tankless on that driver side wall. It's all gonna be counter, so I will run it down on the floor against the wall under everything.
                                   
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                                    nwcw2001

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                                    Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 05/31/11 12:00 PM (permalink)
                                    Also, I have found a guy that will sell us wrap material at a HUGE discount. He quoted me, for our truck size, (the same as Reese77) $375 plus shipping! Let me know if you guys want his contact info.
                                     
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                                      Gilj

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                                      Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Tue, 05/31/11 12:02 PM (permalink)
                                      Yes, send contact info.  WOW!!
                                       
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                                        BackAlleyBurger

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                                        Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 06/1/11 1:29 AM (permalink)
                                        yes please !! send me that info!
                                        i just love good active forums, this is great :)
                                        hey wait..... that does include printing right ?
                                         
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                                          nwcw2001

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                                          Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 06/1/11 1:35 AM (permalink)
                                          This was the just for solid black. The printing I need is minimal so I am worried more about the coverage. I emailed my guy, to check with him to make sure he didn't mind the extra business. As soon as I get the go ahead, I will forward the info!
                                           
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                                            Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Sun, 06/5/11 7:03 PM (permalink)
                                            Made a bit of progress. It is so hot out everyday that I can only work in the sun for a few hours.
                                             
                                            In the first picture, I decided to have the fresh water tank fill on the inside instead of cutting a hole through the customer side wall. I can just open the door, pull in a hose and fill the tank as needed. Still trying to decided whether to cover the cab side walls with FRP or aluminum.

                                             
                                            Covered front walls with FRP. On the left side you can see some stains on the Aluminum, I am not sure where they came from but they won't come off with any type of cleaner. They look like smudges in the picture but they like black spotted stains.
                                             

                                             

                                             
                                            I couldn't find a 100 AMP main breaker box that didn't have 16 or 20 spaces so I bought a 125 AMP box with 8 spaces.

                                            <message edited by reese77 on Sun, 06/5/11 7:07 PM>
                                             
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                                              Gilj

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                                              Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Sun, 06/5/11 7:46 PM (permalink)
                                              Reese, you are doing a great job.  Please continue to share the pictures when you do your propane.  Have you figured that all out yet?
                                              I would love to come see your rig, man it looks good.
                                               
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                                                Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Sun, 06/5/11 8:15 PM (permalink)
                                                Gilj


                                                Reese, you are doing a great job.  Please continue to share the pictures when you do your propane.  Have you figured that all out yet?
                                                I would love to come see your rig, man it looks good.

                                                 
                                                Thanks Gilj. I am trying to find a used 100lb propane tank and vertical straps/mounts now and than I will have a professional come out to do the hookup. However before that I will be having the truck towed to the muffle shop as the needed work on the exhaust cannot be done in my driveway. Once I get the mechanical/electrical work done on the actual vehicle I will be able to make better progress on the interior.
                                                 
                                                I will keep posting pics as I go. Once I get further along, you are welcome to come check out the truck. I am in Stockbridge and not far from Conyers at all.
                                                <message edited by reese77 on Sun, 06/5/11 8:18 PM>
                                                 
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                                                  Dr of BBQ

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                                                  Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Sun, 06/5/11 10:54 PM (permalink)
                                                  reese77
                                                     
                                                  After further thought, I think I want to go electric. I do not want to pipe LP to that side of the food truck. Based on my design, I planned to have a 100lb tank mounted on the driver rear and piped through for the steam table and griddle. I would have to do some elaborate piping underneath the truck to cleanly divert LP to the passenger side and under the sink. Also the LP heaters need to vent and I do not think this will work under my sink.

                                                   
                                                  Just a thought or two from a different prospective. Runing LP gas lines is a pice of cake and it's not hard to find a good plumber that will do it after working hours for cash.
                                                   
                                                  If your going to put a 100 Gal tank under your truck how will you fill it? Will you have to drop it and haul it to an LP dealer to have it filled? That's a hassle if the weather is anything but bluebird skies.  And what do they weigh full. Remember they never need filling unless it's raining or snowing and your in good clothes.
                                                   
                                                  All you need to vent your water heater is a ninety degree double walled pipe and a hole saw. Again a job your after hours plumber is experienced at. Add a collar for the outside and a steel dryer vent cover and your good to go. Remember an instant hot water heater takes no recovery time unlike an electric unit. And if your talking about an electric instant hot water heater, oh boy start looking for a generator the size of a VW. Well LMAO it won't need to be that big but close.
                                                   
                                                  Ok one other thought if you install equipment across the back doors everything you bring in or take out must fit through your passenger side door. That includes coolers, sinks, freezers, any time you change or replace any large piece of equipment you'll need to move what ever is in front of your back doors or somehow get it out the smaller front door, so plan ahead on what ever you put in front of your back doors.
                                                   
                                                  Jack 
                                                   
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                                                    RiceWorks

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                                                    Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 06/6/11 12:56 AM (permalink)
                                                    Dr of BBQ


                                                    reese77
                                                       
                                                    After further thought, I think I want to go electric. I do not want to pipe LP to that side of the food truck. Based on my design, I planned to have a 100lb tank mounted on the driver rear and piped through for the steam table and griddle. I would have to do some elaborate piping underneath the truck to cleanly divert LP to the passenger side and under the sink. Also the LP heaters need to vent and I do not think this will work under my sink.


                                                    Just a thought or two from a different prospective. Runing LP gas lines is a pice of cake and it's not hard to find a good plumber that will do it after working hours for cash.

                                                    If your going to put a 100 Gal tank under your truck how will you fill it? Will you have to drop it and haul it to an LP dealer to have it filled? That's a hassle if the weather is anything but bluebird skies.  And what do they weigh full. Remember they never need filling unless it's raining or snowing and your in good clothes.

                                                    All you need to vent your water heater is a ninety degree double walled pipe and a hole saw. Again a job your after hours plumber is experienced at. Add a collar for the outside and a steel dryer vent cover and your good to go. Remember an instant hot water heater takes no recovery time unlike an electric unit. And if your talking about an electric instant hot water heater, oh boy start looking for a generator the size of a VW. Well LMAO it won't need to be that big but close.

                                                    Ok one other thought if you install equipment across the back doors everything you bring in or take out must fit through your passenger side door. That includes coolers, sinks, freezers, any time you change or replace any large piece of equipment you'll need to move what ever is in front of your back doors or somehow get it out the smaller front door, so plan ahead on what ever you put in front of your back doors.

                                                    Jack 

                                                     
                                                    I ran all of my propane lines myself. It is truely very easy, and unless you do not feel very safe doing it yourself definitely find a plumber like  Jack said. I used black lines and it is very flexible and forgiving.
                                                          I use two 10 Gal propane tanks and run a Wok, Fryer, and a single burner griddle on them. I have to refill once a week. I have two spares that i just rotate in with the empty ones at the end of the night. Anything bigger than a 10 Gal tank is HEAVY. If you go that route, you will have to place the tank somewhere where you can lean the tanks down onto a truck bed to go get them refilled. There's a local taco trailer that i have seen that uses that method.
                                                        I also second Jack on the fact that you need to have a large opening on the back for equipment replacement. I've had to pull out my single door fridge and replace it with a double door fridge in the past and i am glad i kept the back doors wide and accessible.
                                                         My recommendation would be to keep as many items on propane as possible. It keeps the gas costs down and also keeps your genny much quieter. I run a Honda EU 3000i, which imo is a great generator, and i still hate how loud it is at peak when i run my rice cooker which is electric.
                                                     
                                                         Jack, do you have a link to any possible detailed pictures of a tankless water heater set-up with the venting included? I would like to ditch the electric ASAP.
                                                     
                                                    And please, anyone who has any rebuttals with some good points let us know!
                                                     
                                                    Phu
                                                     
                                                     
                                                     
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                                                      Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 06/6/11 6:40 AM (permalink)
                                                      Dr of BBQ


                                                      reese77
                                                         
                                                      After further thought, I think I want to go electric. I do not want to pipe LP to that side of the food truck. Based on my design, I planned to have a 100lb tank mounted on the driver rear and piped through for the steam table and griddle. I would have to do some elaborate piping underneath the truck to cleanly divert LP to the passenger side and under the sink. Also the LP heaters need to vent and I do not think this will work under my sink.


                                                      Just a thought or two from a different prospective. Runing LP gas lines is a pice of cake and it's not hard to find a good plumber that will do it after working hours for cash.

                                                      If your going to put a 100 Gal tank under your truck how will you fill it? Will you have to drop it and haul it to an LP dealer to have it filled? That's a hassle if the weather is anything but bluebird skies.  And what do they weigh full. Remember they never need filling unless it's raining or snowing and your in good clothes.

                                                      All you need to vent your water heater is a ninety degree double walled pipe and a hole saw. Again a job your after hours plumber is experienced at. Add a collar for the outside and a steel dryer vent cover and your good to go. Remember an instant hot water heater takes no recovery time unlike an electric unit. And if your talking about an electric instant hot water heater, oh boy start looking for a generator the size of a VW. Well LMAO it won't need to be that big but close.

                                                      Ok one other thought if you install equipment across the back doors everything you bring in or take out must fit through your passenger side door. That includes coolers, sinks, freezers, any time you change or replace any large piece of equipment you'll need to move what ever is in front of your back doors or somehow get it out the smaller front door, so plan ahead on what ever you put in front of your back doors.

                                                      Jack 

                                                       
                                                      I will be strapping the LP tank to the rear of the truck on the side of the door like other trucks do, not underneath. That would be too dangerous.
                                                       
                                                      I understand what you are saying about the LP water heater but the issue is that my sink setup is on the customer side and I do not want to have a vent on that side of the vehicle. If I could vent with a small pipe than I could run it up the wall and out the roof like like my grey water tank vent.
                                                       
                                                      In regard to equipment being placed on the back wall, I thought about needing to access it for equipment replacement, etc. So, the door will still be operational, I will just have to roll the steam table out of the way to open the door.
                                                      <message edited by reese77 on Mon, 06/6/11 6:43 AM>
                                                       
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                                                        Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Mon, 06/6/11 10:11 AM (permalink)
                                                        reese77
                                                        In regard to equipment being placed on the back wall, I thought about needing to access it for equipment replacement, etc. So, the door will still be operational, I will just have to roll the steam table out of the way to open the door.

                                                         
                                                        That's cool rollers are great and in fact required by our health department now so that you can clean behind equipment. And my apologies on being confused about which post I was making reference to.
                                                         
                                                        I should have posted those questions to the following posters:
                                                        nwcw2001
                                                        I am gonna close the back roll-up door and put the cook top/fryer/burner on the back wall and then run the gas to the tankless on that driver side wall. It's all gonna be counter, so I will run it down on the floor against the wall under everything.

                                                         
                                                        Gilj
                                                        keep us informed if you find an efficient electric model.  I also don't want to run a gas line to the opposite side, and have to worry about venting, would prefer to keep electric, but not at the cost of getting a larger generator.  Great posts.

                                                         
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                                                          Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 06/8/11 5:13 PM (permalink)
                                                          Found an efficient electric tankless water heater. http://www.amazon.com/Sti...=1307567366&sr=8-4
                                                           
                                                          I will be putting my 2.5GAL point of use electric water heater on craigslist if anyone is interested.
                                                           
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                                                            Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build Wed, 06/8/11 10:59 PM (permalink)
                                                            OK that looks cool.  And only 25 amps.  So Reese, what will you have on propane and what will run off of generator.  Have you determined the size generator you will need?  At 25 amps I may have to consider this instead of the propane.    I still will put my fryer and grill on propane.  I just hate to worry about venting the heater.
                                                             
                                                            I got a quote from a guy today to run approx 30 feet of black pipe, two stage regulators, shut off valves, etc, etc.  to three appliances......... his fee... get this are you ready $1593-  Only $600 of this is for his labor the rest is in materials.  I guess he didn't think I had done any research on my own.   Needles to say, I won't be calling this guy back?
                                                             
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