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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Mon, 02/20/12 3:24 AM
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Where are you planning to put the generator?
 

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Mon, 02/20/12 6:22 AM
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Does the HWH have to be there under the sink?If not why not mount it back by your back door,and then run a pipe up to your sink,that way you can vent out back and not worry about someone leaning on the vent and getting burned.
Anyone have a picture and info on how the did there outside serving counter?I have built mine and have the piano hinge but trying to come up with a cheap simple support to hold in upright.and How do you keep it from flapping around as you go down the street.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Mon, 02/20/12 7:46 AM
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Inkys


Hello Reese,
What a great posting! I just started reading it, so maybe I've missed it, but I'm wondering how you handled a couple of tasks.
1. Cutting large sheets of stainless or aluminum. (A shear is not in my budget :-)
2. Bending Stainless for corners etc. (metal brakes are expensive also)
3. Mounting equipment. It looks like you haven't gotten to that point yet, but I'm wondering about mounting grills, fryers, etc. I'm not sure mounting to the inner wall (wood) is strong enough.  

I just bought a P30 also and I'm just getting started, so your posting is invaluable. Kudos



 
1. I use cutting shears but it is the type that attaches to a drill and only cost about $30, if you go back in this thread, there is a picture of them. I also use a jig saw with a metal cutting blade. Both work great.
 
2. I haven't bent any sheet material. I was going to buy a 48" bending brake for around $150 but I would not have a use for it after awhile. So, if I need a bend, I just individual sheets and put a piece of aluminum trim on the corner.
 
3. I bought stainless steel equipment stands that will just sit on the floor and maybe screw into the wall.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Mon, 02/20/12 7:48 AM
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Inkys


Where are you planning to put the generator?


 
I am building the quiet generator box now and I will mount on a rear platform. I am waiting for my welder to arrive so I can get going.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Mon, 02/20/12 7:52 AM
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Does the HWH have to be there under the sink?If not why not mount it back by your back door,and then run a pipe up to your sink,that way you can vent out back and not worry about someone leaning on the vent and getting burned.
Anyone have a picture and info on how the did there outside serving counter?I have built mine and have the piano hinge but trying to come up with a cheap simple support to hold in upright.and How do you keep it from flapping around as you go down the street.

 
No. I thought about mounting it somewhere else but it would be too much of a hassle to route the water pipes back to the sink.
 
As for customers getting burned, the exhaust vent will be double walled to it will be cool to the touch and the hot/warm air will blow downward. I was going to route up through the ceiling but the 4" pipe would be too intrusive.
 

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 02/22/12 10:55 PM
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Greetings all, I JUST BOUGHT my P30!!
A Gruman Olson 95'. I'm a newbie to the food truck ranks, but an old school chef looking for a warm welcome. Have been quietly following you guys for many mos. The great build's (and sm not so great) have all been an inspiration to me. I can't wait to hit the streets of Bmore (then N.C.) and I'm bursting at the seams with anticipation. Im in Balt. Md. where we are trying to spread the spirit and taste our Fd Trk culture. I recently shut down my small Intnl. cuisine rest. For the past 10yrs. I've considered this; 5yrs. seriously and finally, all my resources came together to form Voltron...
After visiting Durham, N.C. for Xmas Iv'e decided on a mongonlian style (stirFry) truck. I'll try to post a pic. Formerly a taco truck, I think I got a steal! Im in the process of converting to my needs. w/ 3way combo grill, 35-40lb fryer , standup stainless single dr. fridge and portable salad bar/ cambro+ 6.5kW gen. considering 48"hood fan is this gen. sufficient for the draw? 
My question is when buying a used vehicle. What should I have done mechanically?
Thanks all, StirFryKing

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 02/24/12 5:45 AM
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Reese, does your jigsaw make clean enough cuts for edges that will be visible? I modified a sidewalk cart awhile ago and managed to get some help from guys in the shop at a local college that had a shear. All those cuts were perfect. When I had little stuff I used a rotary tool for edges that would be covered. All came out well, but I'm seeing a lot more metal work in my future. I can't over due my welcome at the college and the rotary tool is not clean or straight enough.
 

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 02/24/12 5:52 AM
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... continued ... I saw another truck recently that had windows i like. Instead of installing standard sliding windows, the cut out the entire side of the truck (16ft P30) about 30" from counter level (left the upright reinforcements) then they framed the whole thing in what looked like 16 or 18 gauge stainless and permanently mounted plexy windows. It was simple, but attractive (I like the idea of a lot of window space) and probably cheap (consider all that window space is less interior siding ). A 48" brake would have made all the frame peices.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 02/24/12 5:55 AM
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I'd recommend using fibre cutting disks and for small areas and blind or internal cuts a nibbling tool:
http://www.adelnibbler.com/
The disks work great and keep a clean edge, and no metal worker is ever without a nibbling tool!

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 02/24/12 6:02 AM
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Stirfryking



My question is when buying a used vehicle. What should I have done mechanically?
Thanks all, StirFryKing

That's a broad question, and it depends on the condition of your truck. Here's a few items to consider (I'll add more later if I think of them)
I'd go through the brakes, and cooling system. It's far better to spend a little now than to brake down on the road. Replace all the hoses (unless they were done recently and in really good shape) don't forget the small heater core hoses, take a good look at the radiator and replace it if it has any corrosion. I just got a 1990 P30 and I'm considering doing the water pump as preventative. It's a pain to do, but again, better now than mid summer on the way to a fair. oil and coolant are obvious, check the rear end oil and tranny fluid (if it's dark change it). I would NOT let a quicky oil change place change my tranny fluid. I'd do it myself or have a mechanic I trusted do it. It's not really hard, but attention to detail makes a difference. You don't want abrasive grit in your tranny. .... continued

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 02/24/12 6:11 AM
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tires of course, fix any electrical that acts up when jiggled or funky wiring you can see. You could go around an do all the blinker/brake lights or just gets spares and have them on hand. If it doesn't have an engine temp gauge. I'd add one. they don't cost much and can save your engine. .... if there is play in your steering wheel or it wanders or pulls, get the front end looked at. When you load it up it will increase the wear on whatever is already needing attention. That's the basics assuming your engine/tranny are solid. ....it's late gonna go sleep ... good luck

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 02/24/12 9:14 AM
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Inkys


Reese, does your jigsaw make clean enough cuts for edges that will be visible? I modified a sidewalk cart awhile ago and managed to get some help from guys in the shop at a local college that had a shear. All those cuts were perfect. When I had little stuff I used a rotary tool for edges that would be covered. All came out well, but I'm seeing a lot more metal work in my future. I can't over due my welcome at the college and the rotary tool is not clean or straight enough.


 
Yes, as long as you use the metal cutting blade the cuts are smooth and very fast, just go straight or make a guide that your jig saw sits up against as you cut so you end up with a straight line.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 02/24/12 9:15 AM
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Inkys


... continued ... I saw another truck recently that had windows i like. Instead of installing standard sliding windows, the cut out the entire side of the truck (16ft P30) about 30" from counter level (left the upright reinforcements) then they framed the whole thing in what looked like 16 or 18 gauge stainless and permanently mounted plexy windows. It was simple, but attractive (I like the idea of a lot of window space) and probably cheap (consider all that window space is less interior siding ). A 48" brake would have made all the frame peices.

Where are your pics?

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 02/24/12 9:23 AM
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Here are the brackets for my future generator mount, I'm going to have to move my license plate holder. My welder arrived but it is raining so maybe I will give building the frame a try in my garage.

 
Replaced my small 100lb gas struts with larger ones and now the awning is lifting properly.


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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 12:57 PM
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Just took a bunch of "before" pics this morning. I've heard I need 30 posts before I can add pics (this is 18)?
 

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 12:58 PM
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Heard I need to use a pic hosting site? Suggestions?

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 1:02 PM
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I'll look into the jigsaw... I've seen some band saws that might work also. I used fiber disk on small stuff on my sidewalk cart. The edges sometimes needing some cleanup. Where did you see a 48" brake for $150?

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 1:45 PM
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Inkys, I have been cutting my 24 gauge stainless with a skil saw. I use a  ferrous metal blade, and it works great.
 
As far as aluminum sheet, the jig saw with a fairly fine tooth, don't remember the tpi, works well for me. I've heard you can use a wood blade mounted backwards, but haven't tried that. Anyone tried this? Urban legend?
 
Bending, I use a brake (36" harbor freight model at a buddies house). For my larger bending project, I'm having a shop do the work.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 3:06 PM
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Heard I need to use a pic hosting site? Suggestions?

Put all your images on Flickr now and once you reach 30 post, you can add the images here but for now you can post a link to your Flickr page so everyone can see your images.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 4:44 PM
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mofood


Inkys, I have been cutting my 24 gauge stainless with a skil saw. I use a  ferrous metal blade, and it works great.

Are you siding with 24ga? I wasn't sure on that. Was thinking 20g, but just got the beast weighed, and I'm going to have to watch the weight (see next post)

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 4:51 PM
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I brought my truck in from out of state, so I had to get it weighed. Came in at 11,600lbs! ... the thing is a beast...It's a former snap on truck. Still has a lot of stuff in it including a genny, 5 batteries, inverter, electronic, 2 roof A/C units, 100bl propane tank, steel plates under carpet (I imaging this was because of heavy tools boxes they carried), a lift gate, and the used what looks like almost 1" plywood on the walls and then put pegboard over that and then oak trim. Metal structural brackets holding oak shelves, holding Lots of heavy shelving, etc. Every square inch is covered 2-3 layers thick. I'm guess 2000lbs shouldn't be hard to take off. Hoping for more. Max GVR is 14400. I want a lower empty weight to get my road use tax down and keep my insurance class lower.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 4:55 PM
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reese77,
I took a bunch of before pics this morning and started gutting the truck today. I'll try to get a flicker page going tonight. Guess I should start a new thread... it's such a beast right now and I have high hopes, so I was thinking about a thread title of beauty and the beast :-)

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 4:58 PM
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4 more post to hit 30[

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 5:26 PM
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Yea, the post count thing is kind of annoying. I had forums a few years ago, so I understand the spam thing, but on the other hand, the rule stifles contribution (photos and links).
 
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 5:28 PM
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Inkys
reese77, I took a bunch of before pics this morning and started gutting the truck today. I'll try to get a flicker page going tonight. Guess I should start a new thread... it's such a beast right now and I have high hopes, so I was thinking about a thread title of beauty and the beast :-)

 
The truck- beauty and the beast.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 5:37 PM
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4 more post to hit 30[

 Cool, can't wait to see your pics. Reply to this post than I will reply and so on until you hit 30.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 02/25/12 7:13 PM
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I've heard you can use a wood blade mounted backwards, but haven't tried that. Anyone tried this? Urban legend?
 
I have done that before and it works but not very well. I think we also had to use soap on the blade....but not sure why that's been several years ago.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 02/26/12 3:54 AM
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 02/26/12 3:54 AM
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 02/26/12 4:29 AM
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 02/26/12 4:29 AM
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Here ya go ... Let me know if this link doesn't work
 

 

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 02/26/12 4:50 AM
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OK. Made the count...
here's before pics:
http://s1074.photobucket....bums/w411/Inkys_Build/
Started a new thread:
Making Beauty Out of Beast - 1990 P30 Build
 

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 02/26/12 5:19 AM
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I had this idea while tearing down. The shelving is built with 3/4" plywood. I was thinking I could cover that with stainless sheet for worktables instead of buying those stainless tables. Will I regret that down the road? Will it absorb to much moisture? What do you guys think?

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 02/26/12 5:30 AM
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Just cough up the $ for the legit stuff now. I have bought SS sheets in the past, decent thickness, to resurface a used ss table I had which had a crappy steel patch in a giant hole, probably for some piece of equipment. I doubt for a single purchase, it is much of a savings, but I suppose if you wanted to cut corners the whole way, you could save a lot down the road as long as you have some decent metalworking skills. I just saw a youtube video of a homemade build truck where the guy had build a housing for his exterior mounted propane tank out of wood and ss flashing. The video literally made me shutter.
You can find great deals if you have a used restaurant supply store nearby, or use craigslist, or buy new online from the cheapest sources. I have used webstaurantstore dot com for lots of equipment. Griddles, tables, inserts.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Mon, 02/27/12 7:59 PM
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DWags541

Just cough up the $ for the legit stuff now.

Yea, that was an impulsive thought. I'll save where it makes sense, not where it results in a crappy product.
Thanks

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Tue, 02/28/12 9:05 AM
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i am putting diamond plate on the floor.
i can not do it in one piece. should i just butt the two pieces together and screw it down.
any thoughts would be apprecitated.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Tue, 02/28/12 9:29 AM
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i am putting diamond plate on the floor.
i can not do it in one piece. should i just butt the two pieces together and screw it down.
any thoughts would be apprecitated.

 
I would butt together. When I was going to go with a diamond plate floor before I found the white/black vinyl and I would have had to order in pieces and butt together. If you are worried about fluid leaking through to the sub floor than just silicone right beneath where the two sheets meet and than apply a bead in the seam. Clear silicone of course. I assume that you will end up laying a removable non slip mat over the floor anyway, so you will never see the seam.
 
I personally would glue the diamond plate down and screw along the edges so that you do not have screw heads all over the floor or recess the screws.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Tue, 02/28/12 9:41 AM
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that's exactly what i am going to do.
thank you so much for the advise.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Tue, 02/28/12 12:37 PM
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You might put an add in Craigslist to see if any tig welders might want a little side job. A welded seam is definitely water tight (should be with a decent welder).
 
If you cant do that, my back up plan was to route 1/8" inch out of my plywood base floor, and lay a piece of 1" x 1/8" aluminum bar down between the butt joint, then silicone your butt ends to the aluminum. That would assure a seal.
 
Maybe I'm going overkill, but I want to be able to hose down if necessary.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Tue, 02/28/12 3:55 PM
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well thanks guys for all the advise.
i talked to the metal shop today.
they are going to cut me a piece to fit the floor.
so problem solved no seams one piece.awsome!

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Tue, 02/28/12 9:16 PM
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How are you going to bend the diamond plate to satisfy the health dept's requirement of a coved floor?
You defiantly want your floor water tight, so it can be hosed down daily. Welded seams are the only way to go.
 

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Tue, 02/28/12 9:51 PM
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Yes, 24 gauge with 1/4 inch ply backing. Pink foam board insulation 1" thk between aluminum studs. Should be just fine. Already have some up. Fire marshal says all is good.

Edit, sry this was in response to your question on last page. Quote didn't show up.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Tue, 02/28/12 10:14 PM
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i found a company that sells steel molding.
to go from the floor and up the wall a couple inches.
that will seal the floor. the existing floor looks like s/s pieces.
going from the width of the truck.  left to right. it is really solid.
just lock crapy. and i plan to curb mount all my equipment.
any thoughts and coment would be greatly apricated

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 02/29/12 2:06 AM
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Would you share the molding company? I'd b interested in havin a look
Thx

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 02/29/12 2:33 PM
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I am no mechanic so excuse if this is a dumb question. What is the round outlet in the picture that looks like it should have a hose connected to it?


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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 02/29/12 2:39 PM
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i forget what it is called but there should be a hose on there that leads to the air cleaner.
the hose part is right. my memory tells me it goes to the pvc valve them the air cleaner.  or the carburtaor
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 02/29/12 3:11 PM
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 02/29/12 3:37 PM
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DIAMONLIFEGEAR.COM
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? site does not exist.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 02/29/12 4:34 PM
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Thats the crankcase breather. Go to your local auto parts store, and get a valve cover breather filter for a SBC (3-4" Dia.). Many aftermarket parts for cheap. If you have smog testing, you may need a proper pcv valve then into the air cleaner assembly, or to a stand alone air filter.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 02/29/12 5:44 PM
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that's where I buy most of my metal from.. good place and reasonable

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 02/29/12 6:01 PM
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Thats the crankcase breather. Go to your local auto parts store, and get a valve cover breather filter for a SBC (3-4" Dia.). Many aftermarket parts for cheap. If you have smog testing, you may need a proper pcv valve then into the air cleaner assembly, or to a stand alone air filter.

 
Thanks. I am trying to register the truck, which means I will need a smog, so I am doing a tune up. I noticed the missing piece when I was installing new plugs.
 
So, if I need to pass a smog than I need to PVC valve than into the air cleaner?

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 02/29/12 8:07 PM
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DIAMONDLIFEGEAR.COM
1-888-983-4327

 
Neat site they have some very cool stuff.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 02/29/12 10:56 PM
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yes .what you need is not expensive take it a mechanic and get it done. if you have any problems.
i can show my mechanic the pick just tell us the year make and engine size and i will get him to post exactyl what you need to do.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 03/1/12 3:52 AM
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Reese 77:Can you give more details on changing the water tank over to a waste tank?I have the tank but haven't figured out how the get the waste valve into the tank.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 03/1/12 10:37 AM
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Reese 77:Can you give more details on changing the water tank over to a waste tank?I have the tank but haven't figured out how the get the waste valve into the tank.

 
DWD,
 
Look at my Flickr page here. Before I mounted the tank underneath the truck, I cut a hole in the tank big enough to put the portion of the bulkhead fitting that has the lip on it inside the tank. Than I sealed the hole.
 
Next I cut a hole for my bulkhead fitting through the floor and into the tank. I then reached into the tank and pulled the interior bulkhead part up through the floor, applied a gasket and screwed on the nut portion of the bulkhead fitting. Than I plumbed a 3" to 2" reduction into the bulkhead fitting and plumbed the drains into the 2" PVC reducer.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 03/2/12 12:22 AM
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You can get a 4" access port and other fittings here. I don't know anyone at that site and have never bought from them.
 
http://www.tank-depot.com/product.aspx?id=160
 

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 03/3/12 11:02 AM
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 03/3/12 5:02 PM
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REESE,
I saw the pics of your plumming
i see the water pump what is that next to it.
are you useing 2 water pumps?

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 03/3/12 7:05 PM
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