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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 04/19/12 5:10 PM
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Ooooh, I like those! Those seem to be the type that everyone here is looking for. Link???

 
These are FanTech 2SHE1021, 10". They have 12" too.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 04/22/12 1:10 AM
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Hey Guys..Daniel here from Alberta Canada. I have been following this forum (Reese77) for a while now..wife found the website because i didn't know how to cut a window out.. 
 
I bought a 1990 Chevy Grumman Route from a local guy.. wasn't running and no keys...bought it and got it towed..have been tinkering with it for a while...
Big question: I had my buddy(laborer for an electrical outfit company)..do the electrical work....100 amp circuit panel from a junk yard mobile home.. How in the hell do i do the grounding in a Van with rubber tires..do i buy a plate and leave it on the ground?? do i dig a hole where ever i go or stop?? Guys please help me out..

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 04/22/12 2:46 AM
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Hey Guys..Daniel here from Alberta Canada. I have been following this forum (Reese77) for a while now..wife found the website because i didn't know how to cut a window out.. 

I bought a 1990 Chevy Grumman Route from a local guy.. wasn't running and no keys...bought it and got it towed..have been tinkering with it for a while...
Big question: I had my buddy(laborer for an electrical outfit company)..do the electrical work....100 amp circuit panel from a junk yard mobile home.. How in the hell do i do the grounding in a Van with rubber tires..do i buy a plate and leave it on the ground?? do i dig a hole where ever i go or stop?? Guys please help me out..

 
Danny,
 
I am no electrician (and I am sure someone will remind me that I am not soon) but when I had the same question, I posted a question in an electrician forum and several experts replied and said to ground my generator to the truck body/under carriage and then run the standard ground wire from the 30 Amp outlet to my circuit breaker. However, check with an electrician.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 04/22/12 9:34 AM
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funny... my electrician said that my generator was grounded to the frame of the unit, but to be on the safe side, if I can, to ground it to a pole if I am near it. I am running 50amps though, said the tires alone will ground the truck.  Speaking of which, I smoked my generator already. LOL I enclosed the wrong ends ( thinking the control panel end was the front and turns out that is the side)  So Amazon sending me a new one, and I've already got replacement parts for the old one since I smoked the volt meter regulator and the brushes. So i got two generators now...  lol
 
 Reese, if possible can you post a pic of the inside of your cabinets ? I build some too and want to know if and how you skinned the inside or if you just painted it. I frp'd the outside like yours as well.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 04/22/12 10:18 AM
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funny... my electrician said that my generator was grounded to the frame of the unit, but to be on the safe side, if I can, to ground it to a pole if I am near it. I am running 50amps though, said the tires alone will ground the truck.  Speaking of which, I smoked my generator already. LOL I enclosed the wrong ends ( thinking the control panel end was the front and turns out that is the side)  So Amazon sending me a new one, and I've already got replacement parts for the old one since I smoked the volt meter regulator and the brushes. So i got two generators now...  lol

Reese, if possible can you post a pic of the inside of your cabinets ? I build some too and want to know if and how you skinned the inside or if you just painted it. I frp'd the outside like yours as well.

 
I FRP'd the insides, I will take a pic and post.
 
 
TWD,
 
Here is a pic of the cabinet. I still need to finish the doors.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 04/22/12 11:15 AM
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  I posted a question in an electrician forum and several experts replied and said to ground my generator to the truck body/under carriage and then run the standard ground wire from the 30 Amp outlet to my circuit breaker. However, check with an electrician.

 
Circuit breaker on the generator, or on the box?

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 04/22/12 2:06 PM
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The generator is bonded to the chassis of the truck. Really, the generator itself is the ground, but, you still need to ground to the chassis. I had a discussion with a few experts about this. You certainly don't want to shock anyone!

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sun, 04/22/12 2:21 PM
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Cajuntown Station here. 27 years old and new to roadfood.com. I have been reading the forums for a while.
I am in the process of building a fajita truck. Recently purchased a 1986 Chevrolet P30 Step Van, V8, 350. Been in the festival circuit for a few years now as an easy-up/tent/camping style vendor and excited to make the business 'mobile.' Based in Boone, NC in Watauga, Co.
Time for my input. I also have purchased a 36" AWP flat top. I plan to use an NSF 48"x30" SS equipment stand. I plan on getting by with just the flat top and eventually a 12" wide 2 burner. All running off LP gas.
There is a difference between an 'equipment stand' and standard stainless steel tables. The equipment stands are reinforced to support a much heavier load and often times shorter height. They also have a raised edge on three sides. Possibly install the stand with the edge at the front, closest to the cook? Just an idea...
I look forward to the advice and discussions. Thanks yall!

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Tue, 04/24/12 9:25 PM
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Hey guys..Thankyou for all the info about the grounding issue..I spoke to a few electricians in town where I live..being a tiny town and no street food whatsoever,none of them has a proper answer to it..one electrician said go buy a ground plate and drive over it,the other one said..use a jack on the side of the truck with a iron pole and jab it into the ground..I dont know how good aluminum is for ground conduct...but I still want to know how 100's of these food trucks stop,roll up the window and start selling without any grounding issues..like reese77 said I believe that the chasis is the ground..

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Tue, 04/24/12 9:31 PM
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To Dr of BBQ, grounding for my circuit panel box which I installed on the rear driver side between the last beam and the back door.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Tue, 04/24/12 10:25 PM
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My panel is grounded to the frame of the trailer.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 04/25/12 8:57 AM
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To Dr of BBQ, grounding for my circuit panel box which I installed on the rear driver side between the last beam and the back door.

 
I asked because I was curious , on a trailer/truck hooked to local power you use a 4 wire system and the ground goes from the breaker box to the power pole and it's grounded at the pole. But with a generator I'd assume (don't know for sure) again I assume it would be grounded at the generator to the frame???? If I get time today I'll do some online research. But you make a good point about food trucks they roll up and go to work. And my city would never let me drive a ground stake into a public street. LOL They would throw a fit.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 04/25/12 9:10 AM
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Come to think about it you'd ground it just like an RV running a generator.
 
 
http://www.rv-motorhome-a...com/power-systems.html
 
The RV grounding actually takes place at the power receptacle where we plug in. Using shoreline cords, power adapters and faulty extension cords can result in reversed polarity so the 110 wiring in the RV NEUTRAL is totally isolated from ground. Why? In the case of reverse polarity a short could feed power to neutral and the RV chassis if neutral and ground were connected creating a dangerous possibility. Thus the difference in wiring. (Note: AC ground in RV goes to RV chassis)
 
Another site and good answer : http://www.rvforum.net/SM...ndex.php?topic=31443.0
 
The purpose of using a ground rod on a service is for lightning protection not to handle fault current, the ground wire is bonded to the neutral at the point of service so fault current has a good solid low resistance path back to the point of generation. The ground rod will provide a path but it will be high resistance and vary depending on the moisture in the soil, the ground rods most important job is the help with lightning protection because the point of generation is the earth not the generation plant. When you are running your generator it is the point of generation so the ground wire and frame should be bonded to the neutral at that point. When you are shore power the separate ground wire not neutral will go all the way back to the point of service where it's bonded to the neutral and ground rod for a good fault current path. So no you don't need a ground rod unless you are worried about lightning and then you don't want to be the best ground around anyway, your tires are good insulators and just put plastic or wood pads under your stabilizers to help isolate the rig from the ground and enjoy your RV trips.

 

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Actually the National Electrical Code (NEC) likes to have an electrical subsystem (which would include an RV) bonded to ground via the feed, which is the shore power line in this case. However, they do make some exceptions for farm/barn wiring an such, so the definition of the "right" answer for an RV could be argued.

When using a portable generator, a local ground rod MAY be recommended in some situation but generally is NOT. See the OSHA article below for a summary - much easier to read than the NEC. The generator installed in a motorhome is not really portable, but it does meet the OSHA requirements by having everything grounded to its chassis, so no earth ground is required. Bottom line is that you need not worry.

http://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/data_Hurricane_Facts/grounding_port_generator.pdf

Are you using a portable genset in the toyhauler or is it factory-installed?  If factory installed, it likely meets the requirements of NEC and OSHA for generator wiring. The RVIA standards cross reference to the NEC for electrical wiring.


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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 04/25/12 11:16 AM
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One fan installed, need to trim the outside with flat 2" x 1/6" aluminum.

 

 
Roof top A/C & Heat unit just arrived. Everything looks smaller online.


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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 04/25/12 12:31 PM
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Think about putting som drain holes in your cabinets, it will save you cleaning time. Also, just put a metal lip maybe 2 inches to hold what ever inside. Remember tht will save you alot of sanitary headaches. Nooks and crannys SUCK and the HD hates them.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Wed, 04/25/12 1:07 PM
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Roof top A/C & Heat unit just arrived. Everything looks smaller online.
 
That's so true and online they all weigh less also . Your fan looks great good job.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 04/26/12 1:46 AM
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I actually feel important and valued in this forum..THANKYOU..The responses i got were very informative and valuable..Dr of BBQ.

Last summer I found a food truck 15 minutes away from my town..gassing up at a gas station..very reluctantly I approached the owner who was pumping gas and asked him about his business..he said he has no time to discuss at the moment but if I can follow him to the next town where he was going to setup he would answer my questions..
when I arrived at his location a few minutes later..He called me in and asked me if I was planning to buy a food truck..I told him more like doing the truck myself..he said "Now u seen my location and what I sell ..if I see you with a food truck around this area competing against me I will shoot you in the head" I walked away.

Due to that psychotic experience I was hesitating to ask for help regarding the truck build..but this forum and you guys are amazing. Keep up the good work..ill be hanging around to ask and answer.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 04/26/12 3:02 AM
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I actually feel important and valued in this forum..THANKYOU..The responses i got were very informative and valuable..Dr of BBQ.

Last summer I found a food truck 15 minutes away from my town..gassing up at a gas station..very reluctantly I approached the owner who was pumping gas and asked him about his business..he said he has no time to discuss at the moment but if I can follow him to the next town where he was going to setup he would answer my questions..
when I arrived at his location a few minutes later..He called me in and asked me if I was planning to buy a food truck..I told him more like doing the truck myself..he said "Now u seen my location and what I sell ..if I see you with a food truck around this area competing against me I will shoot you in the head" I walked away.

Due to that psychotic experience I was hesitating to ask for help regarding the truck build..but this forum and you guys are amazing. Keep up the good work..ill be hanging around to ask and answer.

Welcome to Roadfood!
But be careful! There's a few Looney's on here too!!

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 04/26/12 11:59 AM
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Sounds like somebody was insecure about how good his product was. I LOVE and WELCOME any and all competition. If they try me they will go broke!

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 04/26/12 2:13 PM
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Hmmmmmm....I guess I need help getting this A/C unit on top of the truck. I wish I was back in CA, I could go to Home Depot and get a few migrant workers to help. I may just build a pulley system out of 4x4s and a pully. I have to go Wiley Coyote style....lol

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 04/26/12 3:19 PM
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First the serious business how much does your AC unit weigh?
 
Now for the "migrant workers" I love it.
 
And anyone that has a brain has to like Wiley Coyote but didn't you want the AC unit to run after you got it up there?
I don't remember him ever having a successful venture. LOL I mean his stuff always blew up or something worse.
He (Wiley Coyote) was always my favorite right after the Soupy Sales show.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...cc&feature=related

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 04/26/12 3:25 PM
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I actually feel important and valued in this forum..THANKYOU..The responses i got were very informative and valuable..Dr of BBQ. .He called me in and  I see you with a food truck around this area competing against me I will shoot you in the head" I walked away. you guys are amazing. Keep up the good work..ill be hanging around to ask and answer.

 
I would not worry about him. The guys that you should be concerned about are those that don't tell you they are going to shoot you. Those that threaten you are just a big bluff. I have never told those that I was going to shoot in advance. LOL
Good Luck
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 04/26/12 5:48 PM
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oh man, I see bad things happening in that pic, ONE your  back... two your a/c unit & 3 your paint job... Man be careful

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 04/26/12 8:06 PM
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Hmmmmmm....I guess I need help getting this A/C unit on top of the truck. I wish I was back in CA, I could go to Home Depot and get a few migrant workers to help. I may just build a pulley system out of 4x4s and a pully. I have to go Wiley Coyote style....lol



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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 04/26/12 8:40 PM
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I looked at a video on u toob and the guy mentioned standing in the bed of a pickup truck and lifting onto the truck. I pulled my father in laws truck next to the food truck and dragged the ac unit into the bed. It is dark now but tomorrow, I will have a neighbor help me lift it from the bed onto the roof of the truck.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 04/26/12 10:11 PM
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yeah man be careful. I had amazon send me a new generator b/c mine was acting up and I had to de-mount the old one by myself and install the new one by myself, 250lbs TWICE sucks... I'm paying for it now, I think i pinched a nerve in my shoulder blade... I can't even take a deep breath without feeling like my chest is going to cave in...  how much that thing weigh ?

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 04/26/12 10:36 PM
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yeah man be careful. I had amazon send me a new generator b/c mine was acting up and I had to de-mount the old one by myself and install the new one by myself, 250lbs TWICE sucks... I'm paying for it now, I think i pinched a nerve in my shoulder blade... I can't even take a deep breath without feeling like my chest is going to cave in...  how much that thing weigh ?

 
103lbs but it is awkward to lift, I cannot get a hold on it due to the shape, that is the main issue. Specs
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 04/27/12 12:00 AM
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dang thats alot of amps... 10.6, I'm running out of amps, my gen will be putting out close to 45 now. Will have to see  how the summer goes this year before I splurge on an AC unit, Between my fryer & my steamer, oh and my water heater, thats like 7500 watts and 35 amps just for the three not including the other stuff..

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 04/27/12 10:04 AM
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dang thats alot of amps... 10.6, I'm running out of amps, my gen will be putting out close to 45 now. Will have to see  how the summer goes this year before I splurge on an AC unit, Between my fryer & my steamer, oh and my water heater, thats like 7500 watts and 35 amps just for the three not including the other stuff..

 
I do not have too much running on electric. Water heater will only be turned on when I need to use. Exhaust fans will only be turned on when I an using griddle, lights will only be on at night. GA summers are humid and I am a big guy, I need AC.....Sandwich prep and refrigerator will be on all the time but I calculated the watt usage. I am good to go.
 

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 04/27/12 10:16 AM
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A/C unit is in. My neighbor helped me lift it onto the roof...it only took a few seconds, all it took was one other person...not a one man job.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 04/27/12 10:58 AM
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Wow it looks snug and like a very professional job. Very cool.
Congratulations.
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 04/27/12 11:38 AM
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Thanks.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 04/27/12 7:26 PM
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im no little guy either... I know what you mean about a/c though. In my food trailer it's about 20degrees HOTTER inside than outside, I get goose bumps when I step out for a minute to cool off in mid summer. I like your water heater, I'm looking for one now, got a link for  yours by chance ?  Thats about the last thing I need to install and I think i'm good to go except for the bread bin and the bin over the sinks.   I'm about 6k over budget at this point LOL

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 04/27/12 7:30 PM
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im no little guy either... I know what you mean about a/c though. In my food trailer it's about 20degrees HOTTER inside than outside, I get goose bumps when I step out for a minute to cool off in mid summer. I like your water heater, I'm looking for one now, got a link for  yours by chance ?  Thats about the last thing I need to install and I think i'm good to go except for the bread bin and the bin over the sinks.   I'm about 6k over budget at this point LOL

 
6K over, that's all....lol
 
Water heater

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 04/27/12 8:34 PM
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yeah, I'm in it for about 20k cash, that little food trailer paid for everything. LOL  I should make my $ back by the end of the year though, I hope... I'm trying to get everything in line for end of May opening at the latest... the insurance payment on it is irking me every month.
 

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 05/5/12 5:29 PM
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Hi guys. My fiancé and I have been planning and building a food truck in Kansas City, MO. We have recently obtained long overdue financing for the build.

I have been following this (and other) threads, and found everybody very helpful and informative.

I am posting in regards to tankless water heaters. My research indicates that lp with battery powered ignition is the way to go. Since the sinks are small, and our coffee unit has a built-in heating element I realize that I won't need much over 1-1.5 gpm flow.

It seems that there are 3 commonly used tankless systems for this application; ecotemp l5, marey power gas 5l LPG, and the aquah 6l.

I don't like the ecotemp due to its outdoor only nature (no vent) and as far as the other two go, I am a bit concerned with quality/durability.

Any input on these models would be greatly appreciated, As well as any alternative ideas.

I would also like to share our progress to help others. This is of course my first post, so if anybody would like to help me share photos just let me know,

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Tue, 06/19/12 10:18 PM
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Hi,

Just purchased a 1990 P30. Just a few questioned to get me started.

1) I have seen wires run behind the wall and thru conduit, is there a difference?

2) how did you run the main wire from the panel to your box on the outside?

3) is this a 220v 50a hook up, if so what make and female connectors did you use...

4) I am looking for shelving for under the windows on the outside of the vehicle, any ideas?

Most of everything else, I have gathered up...

Ryan

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 06/28/12 11:42 AM
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Hey Reese77.  I'm looking to do a similar build.  I'm not sure if you have answered this already, but how much did it cost you to put this truck together?   Not sure if you would be willing to share the details and costs of everything involved to do this.
 
thanks so much,
 
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 06/28/12 4:31 PM
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I am posting in regards to tankless water heaters. My research indicates that lp with battery powered ignition is the way to go. Since the sinks are small, and our coffee unit has a built-in heating element I realize that I won't need much over 1-1.5 gpm flow.

It seems that there are 3 commonly used tankless systems for this application; ecotemp l5, marey power gas 5l LPG, and the aquah 6l.

I don't like the ecotemp due to its outdoor only nature (no vent) and as far as the other two go, I am a bit concerned with quality/durability.

 
http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/tm.aspx?m=680188&high=tankless+water+heaters
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 06/29/12 4:04 PM
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kniochef


Hey Reese77.  I'm looking to do a similar build.  I'm not sure if you have answered this already, but how much did it cost you to put this truck together?   Not sure if you would be willing to share the details and costs of everything involved to do this.

thanks so much,

Brian Hall

 
Well my truck needed mechanical work and I still need electrical work but cannot find the proper resource. I did not log my cost as I really did not want to know what I spent but I would say that I am at about 6K but that is with the cost of the truck and mechanical repairs before getting into building cost. I still have to spend around 2-4K on my wrap and I have spent 2500 on logo and wrap design. Then I still need a griddle, char grill, steam table, sandwich prep and fridge. So another 3500. I should have just purchased a used food truck.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 06/29/12 6:54 PM
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I should get an AC unit. My truck was reading 120 today, I closed at 1pm with 70 in my pocket for 2 hours. I couldn't deal with it anymore today. lol

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 06/30/12 11:31 AM
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I should get an AC unit. My truck was reading 120 today, I closed at 1pm with 70 in my pocket for 2 hours. I couldn't deal with it anymore today. lol

 
A necessity here in GA, that is why I purchased mine before any cooking equipment. The model I purchased is compact (by definition) and it also supplies heat in the winter.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Sat, 06/30/12 1:15 PM
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THE WILD DOG
I should get an AC unit. My truck was reading 120 today, I closed at 1pm with 70 in my pocket for 2 hours. I couldn't deal with it anymore today. lol

 
On the AC issue Glen Haege "The Handy Man" does a syndicated  radio show http://www.masterhandyman.com/
and I know this guy he is very sharp, talked about the portable air conditioners today and he was very upbeat about their ability to cool a 400 sq foot room. He said they are 110 volts and very energy efficient. Just a thought.
 
What I really wanted to know is how are the sliders selling?
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 07/13/12 1:38 AM
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I have the Marey 5L tankless propane water heater.  Am having real problems trying to figure out how to install it.  Company says I need 4" double wall stainless steel duct which is extremely hard to find and extremely expensive.  I assume the thing must be putting out pretty hot air.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 07/13/12 8:53 AM
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You don't have to use stainless steel. Do you have a Home Depot near you? How long is the run?
 
http://www.homedepot.com/...duct&storeId=10051

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 07/13/12 11:38 AM
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We basically just want to go straight out to side wall.  We want to mount it on wall above sink near corner.  Then vent up and out.  The company told me they don't make a kit -- that the Bosch kit fits perfectly.  But I can't find Bosch in 4".  I can find another brand in 4".  But this stainless steel costs more than the water heater.  And what needs to "fit"?

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 07/13/12 12:08 PM
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All you need is a 4 inch 90 degree elbow then. Do a search for that.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 07/13/12 12:48 PM
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i am also looking for an elbow to do the samething. i have to measure my outlet to see what size i need. anyway aquah sells an elbow double wall stainless steel for there heaters.
around 35.00. i e-mailed them and asked what the diameter is on there piece. if it does not fit i will go to a local pluming supply or a stove guy to get one. good luck.
hey Doc do think that all the heaters have the same size flue. seems it should be an industry standard.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 07/13/12 1:34 PM
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I would think 4 inch is pretty standard. And at $35.00 you can't go wrong especially in stainless.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 08/23/12 8:28 AM
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Reese is your truck finished? any end pics On your build?

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 08/23/12 9:35 AM
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No. Actually, I am just now starting back up after months of no work. My job keeps me really busy and I had to go out of town. I have been trying to get a guy to come out and install my LP lines and Ansul. He came out to do a survey and said he could come back in a week but that turned into 2 months so far and when I email him, he is busy.
 
The LP and Ansul are my main hurdle as I want that professionally installed. Other than that, I removed my old generator as I am either going to get two smaller Honda EU2000i or a inverter and battery bank and store this setup underneath the driver side of the truck. I am going to be removing my transfer switch as I realized that I will likely never get the chance to use it except at events if they have the proper outlets.
 
The truck has electrical issues and I have a mechanic working on that this week, he is removing the steering column today to have the electronics rebuilt as there is a short, then we will go from there.
 
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On another note, my graphic artist has completed my truck wrap and logo but I am not sure I am totally satisfied as even though I wanted to go with a fun theme, I think there is too much going on in the wrap.
 
 
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 08/23/12 9:50 AM
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Reese,
I am new to the site and could not stop reading your thread,
I think i have read it 3 times. You have accomplished alot.
I am in NC and ready to do my own truck and was really considering doing it myself like you, but wow it seems really frustrating and a big headache. Knowing what you know now.....would you have bought a good used complete truck vs. building from the ground up??

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 08/23/12 10:50 AM
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Rollin Smoke


Reese,
I am new to the site and could not stop reading your thread,
I think i have read it 3 times. You have accomplished alot.
I am in NC and ready to do my own truck and was really considering doing it myself like you, but wow it seems really frustrating and a big headache. Knowing what you know now.....would you have bought a good used complete truck vs. building from the ground up??

 
If I knew then what I know now, I would buy if I found a really good deal on a ready to go food truck, but if not then I would buy a larger step van and still do it myself. It is cheaper in my opinion to do it yourself and you have more choice of layout. My current regret is that I did not buy a larger step van when I started. After all the trials and errors I would definitely plan the layout, wiring, equipment and placement of everything more thoroughly.
 
When all is said and done, I will have spent around 13K and this is not including the graphic design for the wrap and logo ($2500) and truck wrap ($3000).
 
A ready to go food truck at the least will cost you 30K (from what I have seen) and you will still need to add paint or a wrap, etc. This is the low end like someone selling their old truck on Craigslist or something.
 
Since you have been reading the threads and have not started yet, you have a heads up on what is required. It is not alot of work if you have the TIME. Time is key, I just do not have the time or else I would have been finished a year ago. If you plan to build your own, then buy a truck then take measurements and plan your layout. Propose your layout and equipment list to people on the forum and everyone will help you choose the right design for a smooth build.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Thu, 08/23/12 9:44 PM
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I found a few nice used trucks for 45 and 50k. But i will have to add about 5k more for my wrap. And then a few more 1000 to change some equipment so im pretty torn

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 08/24/12 12:18 AM
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Rollin Smoke


I found a few nice used trucks for 45 and 50k. But i will have to add about 5k more for my wrap. And then a few more 1000 to change some equipment so im pretty torn

 
Whoooo, 40-50K..I personally think you will come out cheaper building but only you can decide that...

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 08/24/12 8:54 AM
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Reese,
after adding all my wattage together and adding 20% i came up with a total of 3700 watts needed.
how about putting three Honda 2000 together. can you do that? any thoughts would be helpfull.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 08/24/12 9:39 AM
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marco226


Reese,
after adding all my wattage together and adding 20% i came up with a total of 3700 watts needed.
how about putting three Honda 2000 together. can you do that? any thoughts would be helpfull.

 
There do not sell the standard kit for connecting 3 EU200i generators but I have seen kits on Ebay that people have made. I think if you have to go with 3 then you probably just need to go with one big generator. They sell a EU6500 and in the online demo vids, the generator seems very quiet.
 
I am still researching the inverter and battery bank option. 8000 Watt inverter and batteries.

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 08/24/12 12:34 PM
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I think im going to build....i went and looked at one this morning and the asking price was 50k. But i could barely stand side ways in the truck..no way two people could be back to back in that truck. So i will be posting my lay out soon and starting my own thread.
Hope you get that inverter setup working its sounds like the way to go

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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build - Fri, 08/24/12 1:03 PM
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Rollin Smoke


I think im going to build....i went and looked at one this morning and the asking price was 50k. But i could barely stand side ways in the truck..no way two people could be back to back in that truck. So i will be posting my lay out soon and starting my own thread.
Hope you get that inverter setup working its sounds like the way to go

 
Cool, can't wait to see your setup. One tip; determine which of your equipment will run on propane and which will run on electricity. I went through 3 water heaters before I settled on my final electric tankless. If my truck were bigger or my sink was on the driver side, I would have gone with propane and vented out the side of the truck. This was one of my many headaches during the build.
 

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