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mrphil

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2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Thu, 11/25/04 11:14 AM (permalink)
Hi Guys, Happy Turkey Day!

You havn't failed me yet! I just off the phone with a good friend, each year a few of us guys do a baseball trip. The problem has always been the fact that most of us are married with kids (no kids here-yet!) so these trips are of very short duration. We are all on long island. For some reason I have always been in charge of hotels, flights and regional food.

So far, we've gone and the places we've eaten (sorry for any spelling errors):

Boston - overnight (durgin park and no name fish place)
Philly - new and old stadium (geno's pats, jim's,tony luke's, reading terminal, di nic's)
Baltimore - several times day trip (Obrycki's, warf rat)
Cleveland -overnight (flew in, saw game, next day R&R hall of fame, flew home) Nothing special a place on the flats
Chicago & Milwaukee- 3 nights (Don't think that will happen again! great trip though) kopps (butter burgers and custard) Lou mataldi, superdawg, al's beef, and a whole other bunch of dog and beef places
Plus a variety of minor league parks around NYC area.

2005 is shaping up to be Cincinnati, originally we were going to go first to louisville and do the bourbon trail and the slugger museum.
But it looks like the trip will be flying into Cincinnati at 8am on Sunday, all day in the city and seeing the opening day parade and game on monday, flying home that night. With that in mind......

Chili- Skyline, Camp Washington or Gold star - we would be downtown close to the park, don't know if we will rent a car.

Ribs - Walt's Hitching Post or Montgomery Inn

Any other ideas.....

Any suggestions for Sunday sightseeing? Would it be worth driving the 90min to Louisville?


 
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    mayor al

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    RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Thu, 11/25/04 11:49 AM (permalink)
    If you decide to do the Louisville side-trip on Sunday (in April), the Slugger Museum is open 12-5 pm. Since the Cincy airport is several miles into Kentucky On the S W side of the city you are closer to Louisville than you might think. plenty of good dinner places down this way also.

    Here's the Museum Link-- http://www.sluggermuseum.org/flash5.html
     
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      MikeS.

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      RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Fri, 11/26/04 12:38 AM (permalink)
      Cincy! I love that town. I go there once a year for a week for business. So here are my recomendations.

      Lodging, Garfield suites Hotel. An older establishment in the heart of downtown. Each room is a small apt. They have a full kitchen, living room and either 1 or 2 bedrooms. They will even drive you to the ballpark and come get you. Or it is an easy walk.

      Food, there are many places downtown. Skyline & GoldStar are both there. I prefer Camp Washington though. Breakfast, gotta try First Watch or Hathaways.
      Lunch/Dinner Sakkio of Japan in the Carew Tower. Again downtown and on the way to the park.

      Want more? Let me know I can cut&paste an e-mail of places I have.

      Also look for TJ Jackson to respond. He is our resident Cincy native.

      MikeS.
       
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        TJ Jackson

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        RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Fri, 11/26/04 12:49 AM (permalink)
        Well, my answers will be a lot different if he has no mobility, ie has a car to get around in or not.

        How probable will it be that you'll have a car?

        All the places you mentioned except Skyline and Goldstar (possible exception of Montgomery Inn Boathouse) are not going to be reasonably accessible without driving.
         
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          mrphil

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          RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Fri, 11/26/04 11:53 AM (permalink)
          Right now it's up in the air about the car, if you guys give us a reason to rent a car, we will.
          We'll stay downtown though, car or not.

          There are 4 guys (30 something) involved here. A lot of the pressure is on me, (right now all they know about in cincy is the ballpark,the new reds museum, chili and it that has a zoo, so we are pretty ignorant) I'm only focused on Louisville because of the initial plans we had (Bourbon and Slugger Museum)

          TJ - One of my friends is set on this parade (I'm not a big parade person) Is this a big deal, does it go through downtown? How is downtown at night? Sorry to get off topic here....

          We try to focus on local food (I know about Goetta (sp?) so we'll try to find a place for breakfast for that)) Why do most of the natives always mention that they prefer Camp Washington? Not as much of a chain atmostphere?
           
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            mayor al

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            RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Fri, 11/26/04 12:57 PM (permalink)
            To do the Louisville run in addition to Cincy, a car is required.
            You want real steak? MORTON's Louisville store is just a city block from the Slugger Museum. Or how about the Brown Hotel for one of the "Hot Browns" and maybe a Bourbon Sampler? The Bourbon Sampler at the Brown offers the opportunity to sample several of the Upper End Special Run Bourbons that don't see wide circulation. For Safeties sake have a designated driver arranged if you decide to do the 'extensive sample' !! There are several other menu choices in the downtown area...and Don't forget Churchill Downs and the Derby Museum.
            Don't pass by the chance to do a drive-by or walk-thru visit to the Louisville BAT'S Minor League Stadium. "Slugger Field". That whole part of town has undergone a beautiful restoration/renewal that really has added a touch of class to the city.
             
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              RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Fri, 11/26/04 2:16 PM (permalink)
              quote:
              Originally posted by TJ Jackson

              Well, my answers will be a lot different if he has no mobility, ie has a car to get around in or not.

              How probable will it be that you'll have a car?

              All the places you mentioned except Skyline and Goldstar (possible exception of Montgomery Inn Boathouse) are not going to be reasonably accessible without driving.


              I echo TJ's sentiments. One huge failing of our fair city is that, as a rule, "you can't get there from here easily" is a frequently heard lament.
               
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                mrphil

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                RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Fri, 11/26/04 2:41 PM (permalink)
                I'm going to assume we will have a car, As Mr. Mayor mentioned Louisville isn't even an option without the car, and since our trip has become shorter(although I'm pushing for a Sat. morining departure,for more time) , I'm sure we'll spring for the car and the flexability it give us. Just paying for cabs to get back and forth from the airport will problably be reason enough.
                 
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                  JaSnake16

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                  RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Fri, 11/26/04 5:30 PM (permalink)
                  Turns out, my friends and I are doing the exact same thing mrphil. Two years ago we did a road trip to Fenway and Camden yards. Last year we did two road trips, one to Chicago (US Cellular and Wrigley) and Miller Park, Mil., then later in the year we did SkyDome and Olympic Stadium (R.I.P). This year we are looking at flying into Cincinnati then driving to Kansas City then St. Louis. We are also planning Philly and Pittsburgh for a weekend.
                   
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                    IansMom

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                    RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Fri, 11/26/04 6:03 PM (permalink)
                    Come to Louisville, as an echo to the Mayor.. Downtown Louisville has undergone a huge change.. and it's awesome. 4th St Live.. The Brown Hotel, the Slugger Museum and Slugger Field are just a few reasons to visit.
                     
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                      Wallyum

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                      RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Mon, 11/29/04 2:10 AM (permalink)
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by mrphil

                      How is downtown at night? Sorry to get off topic here....


                      Woeful. Deserted. Borderline dangerous. There's some action over on Main Street and a little around the Aranoff, but Cincinnati has managed to turn most of downtown into a ghost town after 9pm.
                      While In Louisville, there's a pizza place downriver from the stadium that's well worth trying. I'll have to get back with you on the name, but my son is still talking about it six months later.
                       
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                        mayor al

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                        RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Mon, 11/29/04 6:40 AM (permalink)
                        Wally,
                        Downriver??or across the river? I'm thinking it is Rocky's on the Indiana Riverbank directly across from the Stadium. Outstanding Pizza in a really comfortable environment.
                         
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                          jmckee

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                          RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Mon, 11/29/04 10:01 AM (permalink)
                          quote:
                          Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen

                          Wally,
                          Downriver??or across the river? I'm thinking it is Rocky's on the Indiana Riverbank directly across from the Stadium. Outstanding Pizza in a really comfortable environment.


                          There's also a place called something-or-other under / by the bridge that I remember from a few years back as being pretty good......

                          Al? Help?
                           
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                            Spudnut

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                            RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Mon, 11/29/04 10:36 AM (permalink)
                            I've been to Cincinnati once in my life, for a weekend about six or seven years ago (whenever they retired Joe Morgan's uniform number.) But, as a lifelong Reds fan, I feel compelled to somehow contribute, even minimally.

                            A car is key; it enabled me to get to Camp Washington from my downtown hotel, as well as to Louisville and Lexington for the day. The Louisville Slugger museum was lots of fun.

                            I also really enjoyed Montgomery BBQ on the water. It wasn't the greatest food I ever had, but the environment was lots of fun.
                             
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                              mayor al

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                              RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Mon, 11/29/04 10:36 AM (permalink)
                              Yeah, Thats what I was referring to... On the Indiana side between and under the two bridges (close together) is a cluster of restaurants...including Rocky's... on the riverfront. On the Louisville side there is Joe's Crab Shack and the Belle of Louisville's docking space. Will do a search for one with the partial name you gave.
                              AL
                               
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                                RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Mon, 11/29/04 10:43 AM (permalink)
                                The Sundancer did the Montgomery Inn on the Ohio River several yersa ago with a colleague. As I recall, it was very tasty and the ambiance and view was outta sight. I think I bought the steak and the colleague got the ribs. Very nice setting.

                                Paul E. Smith
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                                  mr chips

                                  RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Mon, 11/29/04 11:24 AM (permalink)
                                  I was in Cincinnati last summer for a ballgame. I liked Dixie Chile acroos the river in Newport, the Underground rairoad museum between the baseball and football stadia, the museums at the old rail terminal. Go to the top floor of the Carw tower.
                                   
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                                    mrphil

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                                    RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Mon, 11/29/04 12:31 PM (permalink)
                                    WOW !! Guys the info is fantastic. I confirmed we will have a car. I really appreciate it! You are giving me tons of info. I am passing this all to the other guys. I'm a little concerned by wallyums description of downtown. Would you all recommend camp washington over the other 2 chili places?
                                     
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                                      RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Mon, 11/29/04 1:07 PM (permalink)
                                      Life's short. Do all 3.
                                       
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                                        TJ Jackson

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                                        RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Mon, 11/29/04 6:52 PM (permalink)
                                        ANYTIME
                                        White Castles - if your whole travelling party has had these, or they are widely available in your area, skip this. Otherwise, be sure at some point to buy a sack or two of these tiny "steam grilled" burgers that some readers here (not I!) will claim are greaseless. They come with onion and pickle standard, but if you like onion ask for extra. You apply your own catsup and/or mustard, if you like, no other condiments are available. Open 24 hours a day all over the freakin place in Cincinnati. That said, there isn't one in downtown Cincinnati, but you can find them just across the bridge in both Covington and Newport.

                                        BREAKFAST
                                        The main regional thing about breakfast in Cincinnati is goetta. Mind you, not everyone eats it, and not every restaurant serves it, but a fairly good number of locally owned restaurants have it. If you end up at a Bob Evans or some other widescale chain, the local Cincinnati locations will not have this delicacy

                                        Since you'll be in a hotel downtown, I'd guess you won't want to travel too far to get breakfast, preferably even walking.

                                        Walking
                                        Hathaways http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Writeup.aspx?ReviewID=1162&RefID=1162
                                        Not a bad little dive, really. Cheap, unpretentious - a throwback type of place.
                                        The goetta here is as good as anyone's, more or less.

                                        Chick-Fi-Let 28 W. Fourth St (Basement food court of the Carew Tower)
                                        Very few Chick-Fi-Let locations offer breakfast - this one does. The Chicken
                                        N Biscuit is awesome, all else is mediocre.

                                        First Watch http://www.gototown.com/cgi-bin/listestab.cgi?est_id=80
                                        Also a chain, but imho a good one, especially if you want a leisurely sit down breakfast
                                        with all the trimmin's. That said, as a national chain, they probably dont have goetta.

                                        Driving
                                        A lot of people say the Anchor in Covington is the place, partly because they're open
                                        24 hours, partly because they are right across the street fro the Gleier's Goetta
                                        factory. I've been there, and although the goetta is fine, everything else is not so
                                        good. Instead, head to

                                        Camp Washington Chili http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Writeup.aspx?ReviewID=119&RefID=119
                                        They serve breakfast and chili and goetta, all in the same meal if you want. I think
                                        (somewhat) better chili is to be had but you can sample our chili, goetta, and double
                                        deckers all in this one stop, which I think given your schedule is a good thing

                                        Price Hill Chili http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Writeup.aspx?ReviewID=1166&RefID=1166
                                        This west side institution has a much better breakfast than Camp Washington, and the
                                        Chili is every bit as good, imho. Double Deckers are also available. A longer drive
                                        than to Camp Washington, but better neighborhood. Click the provided RF link for pics
                                        of all three aforementioned local specialties.

                                        Sugar N Spice http://www.digitalcity.com/cincinnati/entertainment/venue.adp?sbid=105569633
                                        I'm not 100% sure they serve goetta, but everything they do serve during their breakfast
                                        and lunch only hours is fabulous. Famous for wispy thin pancakes. I like the corned
                                        beef has with a fried egg in place of the normal poached egg.

                                        My Three Chefs http://www.cincinnati.com/freetime/dining/reviews/060404_my3chefs.html
                                        I've not been here yet, but have heard a lot of good things about it. Not far out of downtown Cincinnati,
                                        somewhat upscale. I am certain goetta is served here :-)

                                        BEER, ICE CREAM, and GROCERIES GALORE
                                        I could have just called this miscellaneous, but that wasn't fun enough, so there you have it.

                                        Hofbrau House http://www.hofbrauhausnewport.com/
                                        Carlton has the right of it. You can find this place in Germany, or right across the river from Cincinnati's stadium in Newport Kentucky. They do serve food, but I'd stop in just for a beer or two. I think this little stop in particular fits the group you are going with to a 'T', and will earn you lots of kudos.

                                        Aglamesis Bros Ice Cream http://www.aglamesis.com/
                                        Graeter's Ice Cream gets all the press, and has gotten some national attention, but I think their ice cream is only the SECOND best in town. For the best, head to Aglamesis's location in Oakley, just a 3-4 mile jaunt northwest of downtown Cincinnati. This location is nearly a century old, and you can tell it when you go in.

                                        Graeter's Ice Cream http://www.graeters.com
                                        Ok, so this is the "famous" ice cream Cincinnatian's rave about. There are a lot more locations, including one that will be convenient to your downtown stay http://www.graeters.com/viewCity.cfm?locID=7. The flavor they are most famed for is their chocolate chip.

                                        Jungle Jim's http://www.junglejims.com/
                                        One word - unbelieveable. Food items from all over the world, things you'd have to go to dozens of different ethnic grocery stores to *maybe* find. This is however sort of a "foodies" delight, so your baseball group may not find this very appealing. I include it here because it is so unique. One of the admins here (you call call me Eddie, and Eddie when you call me, you can call me Al) lives in the Louisville area and has made several trips to Cincinnati just to go to JJ's

                                        Findlay Market www.findlaymarket.org
                                        You say you're going to see the Opening Day parade...well, the parade is and always has been called the Findlay Market parade....so why not stop by this open-air market right there in downtown, is a neat experience. The local weekly newspaper wrote of it this week, saying "the best shopping experience in the city is still FINDLAY MARKET. You cannot beat the urban experience of fresh foods, bargains, people watching, street performers, vendors and special events. Findlay is open Wednesday through Saturday 8 a.m.-6 p.m. with Sunday hours coming next spring. Info: www.findlaymarket.org or 513-665-4839" Also, here's a great writeup about FM: http://www.citybeat.com/2001-11-21/diner.shtml

                                        LUNCH

                                        Walking
                                        If you don't otherwise get the chance to get out of downtown for some Cincinnati chili, you will still be able to hit any of several[url='http://www.skylinechili.com/']Skyline Chili[/url] or [url='http://www.goldstarchili.com']Gold Star Chili[/url] locations all over the downtown area. Of the two, I find Skyline to serve the better chili. Oh, and I recommend that you ask them to drain the spaghetti well at either place if you order a chili-spaghetti dish (called a 3, 4, or 5 way locally depending on what the chili spaghetti is topped with)

                                        Arnold's http://www.cincinnati.com/dining/arnolds/chef.html
                                        In business since 1861, and always crowded at lunch time. Excellent specials starting at 3.99. Get there by 11:15, or after 1pm for lunch. Here's an extra review to look at: http://www.cincinnati.com/freetime/dining/reviews/101504_arnolds_lunch.html

                                        Sakkio of Japan 28 W 4TH ST (lower level of Carew Tower)
                                        The top poster at this site once described the chicken teriyaki at Sakkio of Japan as "the best I've ever had". Mind you, this is a food court place, but your buddies might like that - every scatters and gets what they want. What you'll want in the aforementioned chicken teri. They cook the chicken and the acompanying vegetables on a grill right in front of you as you watch, and the chicken and fresh steam-grilled veggies go atop a bed of rice, and then are topped with some extra teri sauce. Ask for another scoop of the sauce, it's free and makes it even better.

                                        Izzy's http://www.izzys.com/
                                        I'll admit that I don't "get" Izzy's. A lot of locals rave about their corned beef sandwich, and so I am including it here, but I've been there a couple of times and their unique potato pancake (pictured in provided link) has been the highlight. The Pastrami is also supposed to be quite good.

                                        Patoshnik's http://www.citybeat.com/gbase/restaurant/RestaurantListing?restaurant=Patoshnik's
                                        Tiny hole in the wall place, carry out only. Wonderful hot wrap sandwiches and soups

                                        Driving
                                        Blue Ash Chili http://www.cincinnati.com/freetime/dining/reviews/070204_blueashchili_yum.html
                                        All of the Chili places I recommended for breakfast are good bests for lunch too, particularly Price Hill Chili, which has excellent non-chili lunch items as well However, for a chili-only parlor, for my money the very best in town is Blue Ash Chili. Outstanding cheese coneys. They also serve a very, very good overstuffed double/trip;le decker sandwich. Zero ambience, just great basic food. Here's the RF review: http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Writeup.aspx?ReviewID=513&RefID=513

                                        Saigon Dragon http://www.findthefun.com/rests/rOH/r0288283.htm
                                        Hands down, my favorite lunch spot in all of Cincinnati. This is a bit of a long drive, and is best accompanied by a stop at Jungle Jims, as the two are only about 2 miles apart. Great chinese and Vietnamese food at outstanding prices...3.99 lunch special includes entree, rice, eggroll (or other app), and soup. Make sure you get at least one egg roll, and also try the marinated beef appetizer called bo sate. One fellow roadfooder took me up on my recommendation was quite pleased, see http://www.roadfood.org/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4555.

                                        Pit to Plate BBQ http://www.cincinnati.com/freetime/dining/reviews/031904_pittoplate_yum.html
                                        Fabulous real smoked BBQ - brisket, pulled pork, ribs, wings, you name it. Great sides too. Easily the best BBQ in Cincinnati in my opinion.

                                        Mio's Pizza http://www.miospizza.com/
                                        Several locations around town, but the one in Hyde Park/Oakley probably doesn't have enough seating for your group, so pick a different one. Best pizza in town, imho, and they have a Chicago stuffed-style pizza that is according to the many Chicago natives I work with very nearly the equal of Giordano's in Chicago. Thin crust is fabulous too. Make sure you get at least one pizza with the sesame seed crust.

                                        Taco Casa http://www.digitalcity.com/cincinnati/entertainment/venue.adp?sbid=126769
                                        Outstanding crunchy tacos, fabulous taco salads, and burrito boats. Cheap and awesome. A warning: the chicken tacos are actually more like chicken salad, ie you get a mayonnaise base. The Hyde Park location is no more than an inside service counter, so if you want inside seating, head for the much larger and newer location in Landen. Aside: Aglamesis' is only about a half mile away in Oakley

                                        Note: The Hyde Park Mio's and Taco Casa are next door to each other. You could walk from one to the other in about 5 seconds. Both are tiny, best suited for carryout -- but if you're ok with that, pick up some carryout from each and what a fabulous lunch you'll have!

                                        Quatman's Cafe http://www.cincinnati.com/freetime/dining/reviews/092404_under25.html
                                        A lot of people will say "Zip's" when asked where the best burgers in Cincinnati are. Or they'll name a chain. I disagree on both counts. If you want a great burger n fries, head to Quatman's in Norwood. Thick, big, juicy, and good. Nuff said.

                                        DINNER
                                        Dinner downtown is sorta problematic. Downtown is ghost town most nights as early as 7pm, exceptions being when there is a late red's game or a show at the Aronoff. Still, I'll give you two.

                                        Walking
                                        Redfish http://archive.cinweekly.com/content/2004/06/09/0609outtoeat_redfish.asp
                                        Yeah, it's a chain. But it's a really, really good chain, or at least the one in Cincinnati is. Never had a bad meal there. a lot of local 'celebs', like our Mayor, like to hang out there. The specialty is cajun food but really and truly everything is good.

                                        Jeff Ruby's. http://www.cincinnati.com/freetime/dining/reviews/121099_jeffrubys.html
                                        This is the high end ultra prime steakhouse that guys travelling always seem to enjoy, and it's right downtown in the theatre district. Jeff Ruby owns several very good steakhouses in Cincinnati, and this one is quite good. There is also a Morton's downtown, but you never hear anything good about it, whereas you always hear good things about Jeff Ruby's.

                                        Driving
                                        All the places mentioned for lunch are good dinner destinations as well.

                                        Montgomery Inn [url='http://www.montgomeryinn.com/']website[/url] and [url='http://www.cincinnati.com/local/montgomery/E220html_10072003__GNMSribsking.ART_Other.html']feature article[/url]
                                        Opinions among Cincinnati roadfood members are divided regarding this place, but I stand firmly on the side that this is a quintessential dining Cincinnati experience. The Boathouse location is only about a half mile east from the baseball stadium, so walking there *might* be doable. I find the ribs -- their specialty -- to be very good, but honestly, everything I have ever had there has been good. The house dressing is a "must" as is the saratoga chips - more or less a thick cut potato chip freshly fried. I also strongly recommend the bbq duck. Very crowded at traditional dinner hours, so I'd suggest going a bit early, say arrive by 4:45pm. If you like the sauce, it is available at any major local grocer in 16 and 24 oz bottles.

                                        Betta's http://www.citybeat.com/2001-10-18/diner.shtml
                                        Haven't been there yet, but Wallyum has and liked it a lot, perhaps he'll comment. Excellent italian food in this rather small hole-in-the-wall family run restaurant. Is at the top of my "musts" list for the next time the wife and I get to go out sans the kids.

                                        Greyhound Tavern http://www.cincinnati.com/freetime/dining/reviews/102204_greyhoundtavern_25.html
                                        What's not mentioned in the link I above is that they serve one of the very best fish sandwiches in an area so serious about fish sandwiches that the local paper runs a "best fish sandwich" competition every year. They've won this competition several times. Stick with the fish or fried chicken, everything else isn't nearly as good.

                                        Parker's Blue Ash Grill http://www.cincinnati.com/freetime/dining/reviews/110300_parkers.html
                                        Excellent top quality steaks and prime rib at a somewhat lower price that one would pay at the big name places. Nuff said.

                                        WELL KNOWN CINCINNATI RESTAURANTS TO AVOID
                                        LaRosa's
                                        Very popular locally, the owner does a lot of charity work and such, their pizza is regularly voted by the chain friendly populace of Cincinnati as the area's best. The strength of this pizza is in it's sauce, and these days it is at best "painted on" in a thin sheen you can barely taste. Even when one requests extra sauce, one generally does not get much. Also, this company is predatory, setting up a LaRosa's location next door or across the street from most single-location pizzarias around town, helping to drive them out of business.

                                        Frisch's.
                                        A lot of local people swear by this place, but it is really nothing more than a very bland, greasy little coffee shop. I'm told their tartar sauce (also available for sale in local groceries) is quite good, but I don't like tartar sauce so I can't vouch for that.

                                        Dixie Chili
                                        Not so good. Once one of the greats, but has fallen by the wayside considerably. Family owned, but the younger family members have not shown the interest in running the bsiness that their elders did.
                                         
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                                          Wallyum

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                                          RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Tue, 11/30/04 2:01 AM (permalink)
                                          quote:
                                          Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen

                                          Wally,
                                          Downriver??or across the river? I'm thinking it is Rocky's on the Indiana Riverbank directly across from the Stadium. Outstanding Pizza in a really comfortable environment.


                                          I just checked and apparently this place was called "Mama Bearno's" or possibly just "Bearno's". Either way, it was good pizza. Pretty dead for a ballgame Friday night, but so were the Bats that night.
                                          Thanks for the tip on the other place though. We may wind up back in Louisville this summer for another Bat's game. (My wife's company had a sponsored night there last year, so I figure this year is a pretty good bet also.)
                                           
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                                            Wallyum

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                                            RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Tue, 11/30/04 2:02 AM (permalink)
                                            quote:
                                            Originally posted by Spudnut

                                            I also really enjoyed Montgomery BBQ on the water. It wasn't the greatest food I ever had, but the environment was lots of fun.


                                            That's the Montgomery Inn in a nutshell!
                                             
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                                              Wallyum

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                                              RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Tue, 11/30/04 2:19 AM (permalink)
                                              quote:
                                              Originally posted by mrphil

                                              WOW !! Guys the info is fantastic. I confirmed we will have a car. I really appreciate it! You are giving me tons of info. I am passing this all to the other guys. I'm a little concerned by wallyums description of downtown. Would you all recommend camp washington over the other 2 chili places?


                                              While Skyline and Gold Star both have their fans, I'd suggest Camp Washington because it's one of a kind. Another questionable neighborhood, but if you go there for lunch or breakfast it isn't too bad at all. At night it's fairly quiet, and I've never had a problem there, but one of my ex-employees lived near it and couldn't believe that I made it a regular stop for chili at night.
                                              As for downtown, do you know where you'll be staying yet? Most of the downtown hotels are gathered around Fountain Square, but very little goes on around there at night. The Main Street entertainment district is okay on the weekends, but it really isn't a recommended walk, at least from my point of view. One of TJ's "favorite places", Newport On The Levee, is the current "happening" place to be, and it can be easily accessed via the Central Bridge which is just east of the stadium. (Actually, TJ and I seem to be in agreement on the Newport On The Levee issue. It's not my kind of place, but many like it.) There's a Comfort Inn just down at the opposite end of the levee that might serve you well as a base of operations. There's also a Travel Lodge at the base of the Central Bridge, but I can't vouch for the quality of the accomodations there. It was an armpit years ago, but I've heard that they remodeled since the NOTL was built.
                                              In short, if I were you, I'd look to stay in Newport or Covington. Downtown Cincinnati is pretty much a ghost town at night unless you're part of the theatre crowd. The places that cater to this crowd are expensive and kind of dull. Both Newport and Covington have new hotels right across from the stadium, and both will serve you well as a potential base of operations for your roadfood jaunts. Just my opinion, of course.
                                               
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                                                mayor al

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                                                RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Tue, 11/30/04 9:29 AM (permalink)
                                                I'll put my 2 cents in about Hotels arrangements. If it is a "one-nighter...Sunday and Monday with Sunday being the overnight. Stay out by the airport. Get a check in as soon as you arrive...do Louisville Sunday afternoon, then overnight, and check out before going downtown Monday Morning. Go to the airport after the game and dinner Monday. It's going to be a crowded agenda, but without the additional day/night, you are going to be busy anyway.[|)]
                                                 
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                                                  carlton pierre

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                                                  RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Tue, 11/30/04 5:23 PM (permalink)
                                                  I'd put 2 cents worth in for The Hofbrau Haus in Newport. I beleive the only other such Hofbrau Haus is in Munich. Might be a fun place to check out.
                                                   
                                                  #25
                                                    mrphil

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                                                    RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Tue, 11/30/04 5:23 PM (permalink)
                                                    I need to show the guys these notes, with so many options I hope to convince them to add the second day. That would greatly increase our options and dining. TJ Please, please please continue your work in progress I feel this is something for anyone who visits your fair city and can be something we here at roadfood can point to when somone asks about options around town.


                                                    I mentioned to Mr. Mayor about how I did the hot dog tour with John Fox and my wife was concerned about meeting "Internet People" She was quickly put at ease meeting all the great folks from roadfood. What a fantastic community we have here.
                                                     
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                                                      mayor al

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                                                      RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Tue, 11/30/04 6:03 PM (permalink)

                                                      Yeah Nice bunch to hang out with...but I'm not sure I'd want my daughter to marry one !
                                                       
                                                      #27
                                                        mrphil

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                                                        RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Tue, 12/7/04 12:35 PM (permalink)
                                                        Folks, don't forget TJ Jackson is continuing to update his post. We are adding the extra day!!!
                                                        I spoke with my buddies and they are lobbying the spouses to get another day
                                                         
                                                        #28
                                                          1bbqboy

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                                                          RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Tue, 12/7/04 1:26 PM (permalink)
                                                          Mr. Phil, tell"em we're now requiring you to do the 3 major parlors and report back, so it has to be a three day tour. We'll vouch for your good intentions in the name of "research".
                                                          Bill
                                                           
                                                          #29
                                                            mrphil

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                                                            RE: 2005 Baseball Trip -Cincinnati Tue, 12/7/04 1:43 PM (permalink)
                                                            ummmmm..... I think some of us could do all 3 in one day. Not me of course,
                                                             
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