A Fishy Situation

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2014/03/23 16:17:57 (permalink)

A Fishy Situation

I was not aware Fish Fraud was such a common practice (selling/mislabeling leaser grades of fish as more expensive cuts) costing us consumers on average 100s a year in over charges for an inferior product. Not to mention not knowing what you're really eating?  And it keeps getting worse. Looks like not much is being done about the fact, from our restaurants to our grocery stores the practice of mislabeling fish for profit is on the rise.      http://oceana.org/sites/d...ceana_Price_Report.pdf   
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/23 16:50:37 (permalink)
    One thing I would note: I really hope I could tell the difference between tilapia and tuna.
     
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/23 17:36:51 (permalink)
    If you can't tell the difference between tilapia (which I would not eat), swordfish, cod, tuna, haddock, halibut, snapper, et al............you had better go get a steak.  I've never in my life seen mis-labled fish.  And no, they do not punch out skate wings and sell them as scallops.
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/23 18:55:03 (permalink)
    lleechef

    If you can't tell the difference between tilapia (which I would not eat), swordfish, cod, tuna, haddock, halibut, snapper, et al............you had better go get a steak.  I've never in my life seen mislabeled fish.  And no, they do not punch out skate wings and sell them as scallops.

     Google "Mislabeled Fish" Then choose which report you wish to read, if the link that i posted is not convincing enough for you. Skate Wing for Scallops? LOL If you can fool people with that one...You would make a good politician.     
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/23 20:20:00 (permalink)
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    If you can't tell the difference between tilapia (which I would not eat), swordfish, cod, tuna, haddock, halibut, snapper, et al............you had better go get a steak.  I've never in my life seen mislabeled fish.  And no, they do not punch out skate wings and sell them as scallops.

    Google "Mislabeled Fish" Then choose which report you wish to read, if the link that i posted is not convincing enough for you. Skate Wing for Scallops? LOL If you can fool people with that one...You would make a good politician.     

    OK, I Googled it.  I still say you would have to be a complete moron not to recognize the fish you are looking at.  That's like saying that a strip steak is labeled as a cube steak and you fall for it.    

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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/23 21:20:23 (permalink)
    I can remember many years ago growing up on Cape Cod, the word was that some unscrupulous folks were selling shark meat as Swordfish.  My local fishguys (both catcher and seller) said if it had been frozen, even they had trouble telling them apart.
     
    Then consumers got "smart".shark became popular and prices soared way above Swordfish!
     
     
    and yes.......the skate/scallop thing used to go on(maybe still does)
    post edited by FriedClamFanatic - 2014/03/23 21:22:25
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/23 22:00:23 (permalink)
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    If you can't tell the difference between tilapia (which I would not eat), swordfish, cod, tuna, haddock, halibut, snapper, et al............you had better go get a steak.  I've never in my life seen mislabeled fish.  And no, they do not punch out skate wings and sell them as scallops.

    Google "Mislabeled Fish" Then choose which report you wish to read, if the link that i posted is not convincing enough for you. Skate Wing for Scallops? LOL If you can fool people with that one...You would make a good politician.     

    OK, I Googled it.  I still say you would have to be a complete moron not to recognize the fish you are looking at.  That's like saying that a strip steak is labeled as a cube steak and you fall for it.    

    While others may classify me as a complete moron, I personally don't think so! (But that's just my Humble opinion)
    Having lived on the Gulf Coast, I think I have a pretty good eye for identifying fish, but if it's plain white who knows??????? I can tell the difference by taste once it's cooked, but raw it's a crap shoot! 
    Oh, and if you put strip steak thru a cuber, you'd have Cube Steak!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I knew a guy that had digestive problems and he would put beef tenderloin thru a grinder before cooking it !" />" />
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/23 22:01:03 (permalink)
    lleechef

    If you can't tell the difference between tilapia (which I would not eat), swordfish, cod, tuna, haddock, halibut, snapper, et al............you had better go get a steak.  I've never in my life seen mis-labled fish.  And no, they do not punch out skate wings and sell them as scallops.

     
    Lisa:  Us uneducated southern folks such as myself would probably not know the difference.  I would not know a mis-labeled fish.  I try to buy what I know and that is difficult.  I try to buy from what we think is a honest fish monger.  You never know.
     
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/23 23:01:58 (permalink)
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    If you can't tell the difference between tilapia (which I would not eat), swordfish, cod, tuna, haddock, halibut, snapper, et al............you had better go get a steak.  I've never in my life seen mislabeled fish.  And no, they do not punch out skate wings and sell them as scallops.

    Google "Mislabeled Fish" Then choose which report you wish to read, if the link that i posted is not convincing enough for you. Skate Wing for Scallops? LOL If you can fool people with that one...You would make a good politician.     

    OK, I Googled it.  I still say you would have to be a complete moron not to recognize the fish you are looking at.  That's like saying that a strip steak is labeled as a cube steak and you fall for it.    

    Well, regardless of consumers being morons or not. (i like to think most are not) This mislabeling fish for profit is happing to this very day. Just wanted more people to be aware of it.   
    post edited by Turtle66 - 2014/03/23 23:12:05
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/24 10:00:55 (permalink)
    I took a break from the restaurant business and was the manager of Yankee Lobster Fish Market.
    http://www.yankeelobstercompany.com/
    I know my fish.  I've never seen any mislabeled fish in any store, anywhere in this country or Europe.
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/24 10:49:27 (permalink)
    In the book Jaws, when Hooper and the Chief's wife go on their adulterous lunch, Hooper mentions halibut (or some fish) is often passed off as scallops.
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/24 11:00:59 (permalink)
    eruby

    In the book Jaws, when Hooper and the Chief's wife go on their adulterous lunch, Hooper mentions halibut (or some fish) is often passed off as scallops.

    I kind of doubt that.  I bought halibut last week and paid $26.00/lb.  FRESH sea scallops are around $16.00/lb.
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/24 13:43:04 (permalink)
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    eruby

    In the book Jaws, when Hooper and the Chief's wife go on their adulterous lunch, Hooper mentions halibut (or some fish) is often passed off as scallops.

    I kind of doubt that.  I bought halibut last week and paid $26.00/lb.  FRESH sea scallops are around $16.00/lb.
    I was just stating what was written in a book published in 1974. 
     
    I didn't say it was true, and I'm not 100% sure about the fish mentioned.
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/24 15:15:49 (permalink)
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    eruby

    In the book Jaws, when Hooper and the Chief's wife go on their adulterous lunch, Hooper mentions halibut (or some fish) is often passed off as scallops.

    I kind of doubt that.  I bought halibut last week and paid $26.00/lb.  FRESH sea scallops are around $16.00/lb.

    Halibut is a bottom feeder, was not popular with the american public at one time. And was way less expensive to purchase when ever available.   
     
    post edited by Turtle66 - 2014/03/24 15:19:28
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/24 17:48:46 (permalink)
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    lleechef

    eruby

    In the book Jaws, when Hooper and the Chief's wife go on their adulterous lunch, Hooper mentions halibut (or some fish) is often passed off as scallops.

    I kind of doubt that.  I bought halibut last week and paid $26.00/lb.  FRESH sea scallops are around $16.00/lb.

    Halibut is a bottom feeder, was not popular with the american public at one time. And was way less expensive to purchase when ever available.   


    When was halibut less expensive?  All flat fish are bottom feeders.  Does that make a true Dover sole less expensive?  To the best of my knowledge they both were always pricey. 
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/25 00:58:58 (permalink)
    I went to one of our local places recently and ordered the "Petrale Sole"
    What I was served was either Dover or English. Tiny, paper thin fillets. Nothing like the size or consistiancy of Petrale.
    Big difference in price between them.
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/25 10:09:52 (permalink)
    I was wrong, It seems it was flounder being sold as scallops in Jaws, not halibut.
     
    http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=1663552&postcount=11
     

    ....."I knew it. Flounder cut up with a cookie cutter.".....

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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/26 15:17:56 (permalink)
    There are cases where you have fish which look and taste pretty much the same, but are very different in case of exposure to pollutants; for example, wild salmon vs. farmed salmon, or regular fish vs. irradiated Japanese fish.
     
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/26 15:23:21 (permalink)
    The comment on "farm raised" reminded me of something my brother sent me:
     
    http://www.youtube.com/embed/h1nEPzsFpc0?feature=player
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/26 17:37:50 (permalink)
    FriedClamFanatic

    The comment on "farm raised" reminded me of something my brother sent me:

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/h1nEPzsFpc0?feature=player

    Yuch!! I expect that farm raised shrimp is just as bad, and I have eaten it from Viet Nam. Recently I have been able to get a frozen Gulf of Maine wild product. They are smaller, but not much more expensive. They taste better too.
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/28 03:21:04 (permalink)
    FriedClamFanatic

    The comment on "farm raised" reminded me of something my brother sent me:

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/h1nEPzsFpc0?feature=player

    Disgusting!  
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/28 10:03:28 (permalink)
    I normally don't like to post links, but evidently this particular article says oceana.org is overstating all of this. And one reason I don't like Huffington Post is that their page takes forever to load. But make of this what you will, like anything else that's controversial...
     
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tamar-haspel/mislabeled-fish_b_2759879.html
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/28 11:29:35 (permalink)
    Thank you harriet. While I'm not a fan of Huffington Post this piece does put the lie to Oceana's screed, as I knew something should.
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/28 15:46:28 (permalink)
    harriet1954

    I normally don't like to post links, but evidently this particular article says oceana.org is overstating all of this. And one reason I don't like Huffington Post is that their page takes forever to load. But make of this what you will, like anything else that's controversial...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tamar-haspel/mislabeled-fish_b_2759879.html

    Interesting article, While one states that mislabeling is of epidemic concern, the other states not so much and is of relative concern (who knows?) Epidemic or not, Most people like to know what they are putting in their mouths. I know that i do.    
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/28 17:07:05 (permalink)
    I haven't watched or read any of the links.
     
    Here in the Los Angeles area they (who?) were actually doing DNA testing on some of the fish served in sushi restaurants.  A lot of tilapia was showing up as snapper and a lot of snapper was showing up as halibut.
     
    I guess when it's a tiny slice it's easier to cheat the public?
     
    It happens.
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/28 17:27:25 (permalink)
    That's why I don't eat in sushi restaurants. Disliking sushi has nothing to do with it.
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/28 18:29:24 (permalink)
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    That's why I don't eat in sushi restaurants. Disliking sushi has nothing to do with it.
                                                                                                                                  Yeah, I agree with you on the Sushi. I'm good with the tempura,teriyaki and sesame.   
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    Re:A Fishy Situation 2014/03/28 18:33:03 (permalink)
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    Michael Hoffman

    That's why I don't eat in sushi restaurants. Disliking sushi has nothing to do with it.
                                                                                                                                  Yeah, I agree with you on the Sushi. I'm good with the tempura,teriyaki and sesame.   

    I don't do sashimi, either. Nasty stuff, that.
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