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Michael Hoffman

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A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 2:17 PM (permalink)
I just heard a radio commercial for a restaurant serving Alaskan walleye. Considering the fact that there is no such thing, I decided to check it out. It turns out that there are lots of restaurants around the country selling Alaskan walleye. Here's the problem: the fish they're calling Alaskan walleye actually is pollock (Thereagra chalcogramma), a saltwater fish and a member of the cod family.

http://www7.taosnet.com/platinum/data/light/species/pollok.html
 
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    mayor al

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    RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 2:25 PM (permalink)

    There is a discussion somewhere on the boards of this sort of mis-labeling of species dealing with Grouper in the Florida area, I believe.

    It appears to be the result of someone's marketing efforts to impress the public with a particular fish being "better" than some other form of fish.

    Since the number of available 'inspectors' who would force correctioon of the advertising of these 'mis-labels' is pretty low, the people who do it can seem to get away with the false ID's for some length of time. The old term, "Let the Buyer Beware", sure is in force with this stuff!

    Thanks for the Heads Up, Michael.
     
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      wanderingjew

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      RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 2:27 PM (permalink)
      quote:
      Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

      the fish they're calling Alaskan walleye actually is pollock


      Hey, I think "Polish Guy" is going to resent that remark!
       
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        Michael Hoffman

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        RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 2:41 PM (permalink)
        Smarta$$!
         
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          mayor al

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          RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 2:48 PM (permalink)

          Michael,

          I think WJ is "baiting" you!!
           
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            the grillman

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            RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 2:53 PM (permalink)
            This is a halibut way to run a message board...

             
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              RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 2:55 PM (permalink)
              All this talk of fish is giving me a "haddock"!
               
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                Michael Hoffman

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                RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 3:00 PM (permalink)
                You guys are nuts.
                 
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                  RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 3:06 PM (permalink)
                  Walleye just dont know what to say.
                   
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                    Michael Hoffman

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                    RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 3:16 PM (permalink)
                    Jimmy Stewart lives!
                     
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                      V960

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                      RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 3:19 PM (permalink)
                      Same idea but slightly different class. Back in the depression if you were selling rabbits they had to still have their heads...roof rabbits (cats) look almost the same when skinned.
                       
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                        Sundancer7

                        RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 3:46 PM (permalink)
                        I did think walleye was in Alaskan waters? I know it is a cold water fish though.

                        Paul E. Smith
                        Knoxville, TN
                         
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                          RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 4:03 PM (permalink)
                          That is terrible misrepresentation! Pollock and Walleye are totally different tastes and textures. Not to mention pollock is a salt water fish and walleye is fresh water.
                           
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                            the grillman

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                            RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 4:29 PM (permalink)
                            you guys are just being crabs.

                             
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                              RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 4:39 PM (permalink)
                              I am just going to perch here and wait for some big mouth bass to appear.
                               
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                                RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 4:47 PM (permalink)
                                They should get the Sturgeon General to issue a warning.

                                Dan B,
                                paronomasiast
                                 
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                                  Michael Hoffman

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                                  RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 4:49 PM (permalink)
                                  quote:
                                  Originally posted by salsailsa

                                  Not to mention pollock is a salt water fish and walleye is fresh water.

                                  I do believe I mentioned that.
                                   
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                                    RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 5:39 PM (permalink)
                                    Isn't this business as usual in the world of fish? I've seen "local Dover Sole" in Florida and all kinds of stuff called "Sea Bass" that was anything BUT Sea Bass. I've seen cheap-ass rockfish sold as Atlantic red snapper in a high end restaurant. I even once witnessed a line cook stamping "fresh scallops" out of a huge hunk of mysterious white fish with a small cookie cutter.

                                    I remember reading that commercial fisheries frequently quadruple their profits by adding a chemical to fresh fish that causes them to absorb and hold on to lots of extra water (some kind of phosphate, I think). They also put layers of ice on frozen shellfish to "protect" the fish, but then charge you fish prices for the frozen water.

                                    Lots of fraud out there. Maybe that's where the term "sometheing fishy" came from?
                                     
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                                      the grillman

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                                      RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 5:40 PM (permalink)
                                      This thread kicks bass!!!!
                                       
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                                        RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 5:49 PM (permalink)
                                        quote:
                                        Originally posted by stlouisguy

                                        This thread kicks bass!!!!



                                        yup and I am waiting with baited breath to read the next fishy post!
                                         
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                                          salsailsa

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                                          RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 5:50 PM (permalink)
                                          quote:
                                          Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

                                          quote:
                                          Originally posted by salsailsa

                                          Not to mention pollock is a salt water fish and walleye is fresh water.

                                          I do believe I mentioned that.

                                          You certainly did.
                                           
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                                            mayor al

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                                            RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 8:56 PM (permalink)
                                            Quit Carping about the one that got away.
                                             
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                                              RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 9:17 PM (permalink)

                                              This thread got off to a good start, but then began to flounder!
                                              (Geez, I couldn't resist!)
                                               
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                                                RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 9:41 PM (permalink)
                                                Oh, come on. I've haddock with the fish jokes. But just for the halibut . . .

                                                Didn't this happen with - and maybe this is the Florida thing mentioned earlier - "Chilean Sea Bass?" It had some really unappealing name, and so some marketing genius decided to call it Chilean Sea Bass and it became popular. Or something like that.
                                                 
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                                                  Michael Hoffman

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                                                  RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 9:48 PM (permalink)
                                                  quote:
                                                  Originally posted by jvsmom

                                                  Oh, come on. I've haddock with the fish jokes. But just for the halibut . . .

                                                  Didn't this happen with - and maybe this is the Florida thing mentioned earlier - "Chilean Sea Bass?" It had some really unappealing name, and so some marketing genius decided to call it Chilean Sea Bass and it became popular. Or something like that.

                                                  Patagonian Toothfish (Dissostichus eleginoides).
                                                   
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                                                    RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Wed, 03/7/07 11:20 PM (permalink)
                                                    Didn't they do the same with:

                                                    chinese gooseberry = kiwi

                                                    prune = dried plum

                                                    I think I've got those right...
                                                     
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                                                      RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Thu, 03/8/07 1:02 AM (permalink)
                                                      craisin = dried cranberry
                                                       
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                                                        mayor al

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                                                        RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Thu, 03/8/07 5:38 AM (permalink)
                                                        In cases like the Craisin and the Prune, those are names for 'real' items...with no 'false' I D's at all. The problem would come if the Craisin was sold as 'Dried Cherries' Or Prunes were advertised as dried Yellow Plums. It is the false labeling that seems to be invading the 'Fish Markets' that is causing the problems. That and a lack of knowledge on the part of the buyers (both wholesale and retail).
                                                         
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                                                          RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Thu, 03/8/07 9:04 AM (permalink)
                                                          quote:
                                                          Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

                                                          quote:
                                                          Originally posted by jvsmom

                                                          Oh, come on. I've haddock with the fish jokes. But just for the halibut . . .

                                                          Didn't this happen with - and maybe this is the Florida thing mentioned earlier - "Chilean Sea Bass?" It had some really unappealing name, and so some marketing genius decided to call it Chilean Sea Bass and it became popular. Or something like that.

                                                          Patagonian Toothfish (Dissostichus eleginoides).


                                                          Thanks, Michael! I knew someone here would know.
                                                           
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                                                            RE: A Walleye By Any Other Name ... Thu, 03/8/07 2:06 PM (permalink)
                                                            HOLY MACKEREL! BATFISH this thread has gone to the DOGFISH.

                                                            Can I get a DRUM roll please. IDE like to take this oportunity to rename the mayor the EMPERER for a moment. Al don't get a BIGHEAD or all LOOSEJAW on us.

                                                            I know we can be a RUFFE crowd at times, but this is no time to be KOI. Some of us may be BITTERLING, but you Al are the KINGFISH.

                                                            All those who agree can GRUNT now.

                                                            I know, I know IDE SMELT some bad puns in this thread, but we got to remember....

                                                            HERRING today GUNNEL tomorrow, so sit back and enjoy an OREO and MILKFISH.



                                                             
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