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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/01 03:59:27 (permalink)
Put my service window struts in. I thought I could figure out a nice equation to decide where to mount everything. No go.
Measured a lot, again, and still made two sets of holes.


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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/01 04:12:15 (permalink)
Hood (and fan) came in right when I finished the walls.
Had to fit it up and get ready to make the penetrations in the roof, and plan my ducting.
Pre drilled the hood mounting flange to match my studs. Lots of measuring, again. Can't fug this up.
Made a little tooling to position the hood in the truck.
Thanks for the help!
Marked, and pre-drilled the stainless. All my holes lined up with studs. Yay!

This thing would be in and out numerous times in the days to follow! But it was a good sight. Little steps really felt like progress.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/01 04:18:10 (permalink)
BTW I used self tappers, 1/4"dia1 7/16"L in the Al studs, and some nice stainless lag screws to attach to the plywood only locations. The hood gets screwed in every foot. It's an 8' low proximity backshelf hood. 24" deep.
 
EDIT! 1/4" self tappers...sry
post edited by mofood - 2012/04/12 01:33:41
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/01 13:57:22 (permalink)
Looking good. You're really making some progress. Do you still plan on opening this month?
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/01 15:17:18 (permalink)
The goal stands! Pushing hard.
Btw, the last photo was around a month ago.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/01 21:42:30 (permalink)
Mofood it looks like your making great progress congratulations.
 
But I have a question and keep in mind I'm 6'4'' so that is in the back of my mind when I ask, "Is your hood going to be high enough for you to work your equipment?" Another build thread here had me wondering the same thing. And yes I understand there are rules about how high it can be above the equipment but I have never seen an inspector measure hood height.
 
My hood is to low for me and I have banged (my head) into it (when I first opened) several times. And a couple of times it brought me to my knees. I mean bang right on the corner and it took me a couple of seconds to get my thoughts in order. Hurt like hell. LMAO.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/01 21:45:03 (permalink)
Oh and The beer bottles next to the generator tell me your a good man. LOL.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/01 21:48:23 (permalink)
I love the pictures in this thread... Very clear and easy to see details.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/01 22:10:40 (permalink)
Thx Sapphire.

Dr., this hood is only 24" out from the wall. It's known as a low proximity hood. You can actually use the top as a shelf (while serving) My cooking equipment will sit out close to 30" from the wall, maybe more. I'll take some shots once my equipment is in. Hopefully won't be an issue.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/01 22:16:22 (permalink)
Cool. Keep up the good work buddy.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/02 20:49:30 (permalink)
mofood....how are those shocks working the way you have them mounted??
It looks like they are pushing out instead of up??
 
Look at how mine are mounted.

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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/02 23:50:14 (permalink)
mofood

Thx Sapphire.

Dr., this hood is only 24" out from the wall. It's known as a low proximity hood. You can actually use the top as a shelf (while serving) My cooking equipment will sit out close to 30" from the wall, maybe more. I'll take some shots once my equipment is in. Hopefully won't be an issue.

It looks like the hood starts right where the "sleeve" of the driver's side door is. Is that correct? Which dealer/manufacturer did you get your hood from? Looks pretty gourmet! Congrats.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/03 11:01:21 (permalink)
Yeah Chef, your struts are much longer than mine. These came with the service window. No recommendations for positioning at all from the manfctr. Another reason (of many) I'm not happy with this purchase. They work strong in the location they're in, however. The window opens ferociously!

Dwags, The hood starts about a foot behind the door pocket. It came from Ventilation Direct online.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/12 02:10:28 (permalink)
The duct saga..
I decided to build a duct that would start at the hood dimensions and expand into the dimensions of the updraft fan. I drew it out, flat patterned it on my handy yellow notepad, and cut it out.


Those are bend marks. Some of the flanges are already bent, some aren't.
(Eddy Merkx half frame in the background for those who care)
Welding this was a challenge having never welded 18g mild with a mig welder. I fought it, retreated, and fought again.
End result was not pretty, but still looked good.

Looking for light shining through, that's the test for most inspectors. 100 W bulb inside the duct to look for leaks.
I don't know what's wrong with me, but, I would re-think this whole process again.
 
 
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/12 02:25:06 (permalink)
I thought the duct was ready to go,

I was planning on screwing the flange of the duct to the flange of the hood. Then, I talked with the "man" again.
Welded seams only.
In the mean time, I cut holes in the ceiling.


And more visual gratification had to happen
 

 
Night time..srry, not a photographer.
Inside:

Don't ever cut stuff if you don't want it cut.
Kinda wish I could do this one over.
You'll see.
 
 
 
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/12 02:57:26 (permalink)
In my mind, at the time, my hood and duct was a done deal. Everything fit in the dry run, so, on to other things.
The floor.
I had a welder all lined up, but it was a no show. I had all sorts of plans for the floor, but I decided to get some work in the books, and lay diamond.
I needed the floors down now!
I'll PL glue them down, and put a patch of silicone at the seams. The key is to cut everything real nice. I hoped for the best and started cutting material. I brought a local sheet metal shop into my world. I cut the flat patterns again, and they coved my floors for me (bent the vertical wall edges 1").
I cut this stuff with the aluminum blade on a skil saw.

 Seams came out sic!
Measured thrice, and cut once. Like butter with hand tools.

 
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Tight joints are key :)
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/12 03:09:37 (permalink)
I removed the roll up rear door at some point in this time frame.
I left the roller tracks to keep ply wood in place. You need something to seal up the project in the down time

This truck had a full width roll up, witch was a big selling point for me. If it didn't already have a center rear door, I wanted to put one in. A full width door gives me plenty of room to build a frame and make the structure the way I want it.
This was every nights shut down, plywood.
Those are just reflectors btw, and smart phone flash
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/12 03:34:30 (permalink)
Put the A/C in. Had to add a lot of structure in the A/C cutout. I may need to add more to hold that 120 lbs in the center of the roof. The roof beams are not as stout as I thought they would be.
I framed the cutout with 1"x2"x1/8" tube (same stuff)

 
Roof will be re-coated with heat reflective aluminum RV paint. Roll on stuff from your local dealer or online.
Reinforcement

 
Seal it up
 

 
Screwed it to the ceiling (self drilling screws, not seen here)
 
Put a vent in while I was on the ceiling. A/C not wired, but installed. These are all basic penetrations in the shell. I like to use a jigsaw when possible, but a sawzall, and mr. grindy make regular appearances. Measuring, and making sure you're sealing well are important (as always). Water loves gravity.
 

 
Did I mention the sheetmetal shop bent and welded my wheel well boxes, and generator box for me.. I cut the flat patterns again, and they finished the job.
Teaser of the generator box, A/C, and vent:

There was a lot more work to do before the generator box would be mounted up. But again, visual gratification is a must to keep the motivation strong :)
 
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/12 03:39:02 (permalink)
Man that cockpit bulkhead looks banged up from that last pic. Not to worry, most of it will be covered. Salvaged S/S will be just fine.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/12 08:11:51 (permalink)
Before you do anything to your roof you may want to read this thread.
http://www.roadfood.com/F...igh=trailer+roof+paint
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/12 08:47:04 (permalink)
Chef, any idea on where that light fixture came from in the pic here?
 
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mofood....how are those shocks working the way you have them mounted??
It looks like they are pushing out instead of up??

Look at how mine are mounted.



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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/12 11:22:25 (permalink)
Home Depot?......My trailer is not the first place I have seen them, actually cheep plastic.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/12 13:22:49 (permalink)
looking good. did you cover the wheel wells after the floor went down or before.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/12 18:03:18 (permalink)
I ran across these Kingofcreams:
etoplighting.com/outdoorlights/outdoorwalllights
on page 11 they have a couple different ones
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/13 11:15:59 (permalink)
Marco, wheel well boxes went on top of the floor.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/13 13:00:56 (permalink)
Are you still looking for a commissary?
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/13 14:22:51 (permalink)
What is the size of your exhaust fan? I purchased one on Ebay and the description does not match what I received. My fan is huge, 30" outer diameter and 19" inner.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/14 12:48:24 (permalink)
Vic, I am looking. Pm sent

Reese, that is about the same size. They look huge, but that's what you need, unless you go custom
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/18 03:06:38 (permalink)
I mentioned that the hood duct would be a re-think..
I needed to build a duct that would be welded to the hood. I simplified the design, and had my sheet metal place bend some 16ga mild to weld to my hood. I tig welded the duct (2piece) for full welded seam, and welded it to the hood. No fancy complex curves here. The reason I tig welded was joining mild to stainless would require me to buy only weld rod. Mig welding I woulda had to buy yet another tank of gas also. And it looks cool with stainless rod (409L rod iirc)
 
Going backwards always suqs, but this was a necessary move.


Mounted it up
 
Now you can see why i wish I wouldnt have cut the hole so big. I flashed it from the outside, under the fan with a steel sheet. It will work just fine. In retrospect, I would do it differently still.

 
Now the hood is mounted. This took me a day to backtrack.
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Re:Another step van build here in the City Of Salt! 2012/04/18 03:52:09 (permalink)
40 gallon grey water tank would be mounted under the chassis. Same technique would be used as in previous under chassis mounts. All thread and home brewed brackets to fasten to the floor. This time, I used three brackets made of 1"x1"x 1/8" wall tubing would be used to hold the tank.
The penetrations were made before the floor was in place.
Long story short:

The tank location would determine the location of my main drain line. I though a bit about that when I made the main drain penetration.

You can see the supply, and hot line from the water heater.
All the plumbing went together pretty quickly. If you've done home plumbing, this was no more difficult. Except, you're under a truck for waaaay too long.
Here it goes
Location (and water pump and expansion tank mounted):

Holes:

 
Hot water lines under truck:
 

got my hand sink, three basin, and did the plumbing.
Here's how it turned out:
 


Simple check valve, found in your local box shop sump pump department
 
Hand sink plumbing:

 
And..

Oh yeah, made a kick plate for the pump and expansion tank. All drainage is box shop materials. Easy stuff. Make sure you can service everything. It should all come apart without disassembling you're rig.
 
 
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