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2011/11/19 13:38:54 (permalink)

Auto Oil Changes

How often do you get the oil changed in your car?
Mine needs doing.  I changed it last before driving to Louisiana.  It's a nuisance even though places like Jiffylube make it easier.
 
It's a bigger nuisance when mine needs doing... and so does my mother's.
I used to do it every 3,000 miles but I've been told that 5,000 is good.  I don't know.
 
I do know that I have to do both my vehicles AND MY MOTHER'S!
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    mayor al
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/19 17:49:27 (permalink)
    As an 'old school' driver, I have used the every 3000 mile benchmark for the oil-change timing. My last truck had 5000 to 6000 miles as the recommended interval, but I still clung to the 3000 mile habit. I did let it slide a bit now and then, but never allowed more than 4000 miles to go by before getting it done.
     
       My new Ford truck recommends every 10,000 miles, using the new synthetic oil. The digital readout on the dashboard that tells me everything I could possibly want to know (and more) about what's happening in my vehicle, keeps me informed about the miles I have left before the required change is due.
    I have 5500 miles on the truck and I am barely halfway (according the the graphic supplied) to the point of change. I will get it done sometime soon, as old habits die hard ! I think my grandfather would hide my keys if he thought I was waiting for 10 K miles to roll by before changing my oil !
     
       Oh yeah, I do the 'plus' service when I get the oil changed. I want them to check all fluids and tire pressures as I seldom do that myself. I will get this change done (free) at the dealer as the 'first-time-service', but normally go to Wally World for the faster service they offer. I have never had a negative isssue with my local WalMart Auto Service.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/19 18:58:42 (permalink)
    Today's oils are quite different that the older "3000" mile oils and are rated to last longer before breaking down, HOWEVER, I'm still a 3000 mile change guy! My engines run well and last a long time and I credit it to a 3000 mile change. Maybe when oil changes start to cost $50 Bucks I might reconsider.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/19 20:48:39 (permalink)
    I change my own oil on a Cadillac that takes 7 qts  & a Ford diesel truck that take 15 qts of oil.
    I change both at about 3500 - 4000 miles.
    I'm old school & have always done all the work on our vehicles myself.
    3000 -4000 miles between oil changes. I don't care what they recomend.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/19 21:04:06 (permalink)
    So, after over two hours I didn't feel like going through the attempted rape... twice and only did my mother's Cadillac.
     
    My mother had a coupon for SL-EZLube... $18.99 in big numbers. In little numbers it said that was for 5 gallons and hazardous waste fee was extra (Like they don't sell the old oil)   (That was an additional $2.00)
     
     She gave me a twenty and I told her I needed two twenties. That didn't go over well with someone with a bit of dementia who checks a receipt at the market for 15 minutes after buying only one item.
     
     So she gave me another. That went well.
     
     Enter EZLube and they have 3 or 4 lanes open and working with two cars ahead of me and three in each of the other lanes.

    Lube Bastard says to me... Here for an oil change? 
     
    I give him the coupon and he says... you've always used the higher grade oil. I know better as my mother would never pay $26.99 for something she could get for $18.99. He tells me that the other oil is so much better for the car... blah, blah, blah and I ask him then why do you sell the lesser grade? (No answer) He keeps bugging me about the higher grade until I tell him... In April of this year it was one year since the oil was changed and now it's November on the same oil.... AND SHE'S ONLY GONE 1000 miles in that time.
     So he says... That's why you need the better grade... because the car's not driven a lot.
     
     I said curtly... Put in the CHEAP GRADE!
     
     He hands me the estimate with a total of $37.66.
     
    I say, what happened to the $18.99? (knowing the answer) My mother's Caddy with the big engine that sits in the garage takes 7.5 quarts of oil. SO... They can charge you what ever price they want for the additional 2.5 quarts because the $18.99 special isn't itemized. BASTARDS! They charged $12.66 for that extra 2.5 quarts.
     
     Then the bastard tells me that I have 10 cars ahead of me and they take 20 minutes each. Right. I say, aren't there just 3 cars in each lane? He tells me that it will still take about 2 hours.
     
     Then I sit and watch people come in and leave. Huh?
     After an hour and a half I go outside to see what is happening. They were moving my car back and forth in to the other lanes letting those that upgraded go first!
     
     The car finally gets up in to place and I watch. Sure enough the mechanic comes and gets me and I let him go through his required spiel. On the fender he has what is maybe my air filter and a brand new clean one. I let him go through the entire script. Then I said... Put in the old one.  It looked like it had been put in clean and driven around the block.  It was not dirty.
     
    He answered with... why aren't you getting the better grade.
    I told him.... Because your company sends out a coupon for the lesser grade and that's what I want.
     
    He told me that all I had to wait for now was for them to add the oil... And I waited and waited and waited another twenty minutes while they put new air filters in to sucker's cars.
     
    Monday I'll try Jiffy Lube with mine. I have a coupon for $19.99.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/19 21:33:29 (permalink)
    i change the oilon my 95 roadmaster every3000-3500 miles.still do it myself and 145,000 miles no trouble yet.and on the wifes 2010 caddy cts i let the dealer do it .i dont think i even know where the dipstick is on that thing.on my classic cars i change the oil every april as i average 500-700 miles a year.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/19 21:35:17 (permalink)
    Mayor Al - I too always had the oil changed every 3,000 in every vehicle I've ever owned.  When I got this Pontiac G8 that has a much bigger brain than mine I listened to what it and OnStar had to say about my oil and tires and every other little thing going on with it.  With just over 40,000 miles in 3 1/2 years I've had it changed three times - the last being when it was down to 14% oil life because I was working 7 days a week for 3 months and had little time to get any maintenance type stuff done.  I go to a independently owned tire & service store for oil changes. 
     
    Foodbme - that last oil change cost almost $52.00 - ouch.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/20 07:46:07 (permalink)
    Changing your oil every 3K is a complete waste in my opinion.
    I do mine twice a year or roughly every 5-6K.
     
    I drive a 2000 Jeep Cherokee that has been "modified" and I have over 150K on the clock and have never had a problem....and no I don't use synthetic oil. A good quality oil and filter and I'm done.
     
    My vehicle prior to the Cherokee was a 91 Grand Cherokee, when I sold her she had over 250K on the odometer, again never had an engine related repair, and that old girl is still running like the day she was new.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/20 09:08:38 (permalink)
    Every 15,000 miles for my BMW 525i. Of course, they cost $100 each so it works out about the same.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/20 09:08:41 (permalink)
    Read the owner's manual.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/20 12:13:30 (permalink)
    I was a senior technician at Valvoline Instant Oil Change for several years. The 3000 mile thing is just a recommendation for most cars, I'll go anywhere between 3000 and 5000.
    I usually change it myself, but I was in a hurry last time and went to a Valvoline, and the 18 dollar oil change I used to do has turned into 40 bucks. I won't do that again as I can get the oil and filter at Walmart for 12 bucks. Plus, I know what goes on in the pit and how much most of the guys working on your car really don't care about it. It's a miserable job that pays jack squat for the work you have to do.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/20 16:04:54 (permalink)
    Sorry,but you can not get any oil and filter worth crap for 12 dollars even at freaking Walmart. Might as well use an old sock for a filter,and Wessen for the oil. Go to a parts store and get a decent (Wix at least) filter,and a name brand oil. Doesnt do the least bit of good to change your oil more frequently than recommended if you are using inferior products. You would be MUCH better off going 5000+ miles,but using quality products.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/20 16:31:10 (permalink)
    For me it is always every 3,000 miles.  Never had any problems with my cars.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/20 21:59:54 (permalink)
    The owner's manual for my Nissan says every 3750 miles (5000km), or 7500 miles for highway driving.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 11:29:47 (permalink)
    flyseye

    Sorry,but you can not get any oil and filter worth crap for 12 dollars even at freaking Walmart. Might as well use an old sock for a filter,and Wessen for the oil. Go to a parts store and get a decent (Wix at least) filter,and a name brand oil. Doesnt do the least bit of good to change your oil more frequently than recommended if you are using inferior products. You would be MUCH better off going 5000+ miles,but using quality products.

     
    I get a Fram filter and the Walmart brand oil (SuperTech) in a 5 qt jug. Been doing it on all my cars for over 10 years and I've never had a performance problem. I'll get bigger brand name oil if it's on sale, but the other stuff has done a fine job so far.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 12:12:59 (permalink)
    We take our Forester to the dealer for oil changes. They wash the car for free and only charge 24.95 for the oil change and free check up.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 13:45:41 (permalink)
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    Sorry,but you can not get any oil and filter worth crap for 12 dollars even at freaking Walmart. Might as well use an old sock for a filter,and Wessen for the oil. Go to a parts store and get a decent (Wix at least) filter,and a name brand oil. Doesnt do the least bit of good to change your oil more frequently than recommended if you are using inferior products. You would be MUCH better off going 5000+ miles,but using quality products.


    I get a Fram filter and the Walmart brand oil (SuperTech) in a 5 qt jug. Been doing it on all my cars for over 10 years and I've never had a performance problem. I'll get bigger brand name oil if it's on sale, but the other stuff has done a fine job so far.

    Actually the Walmart oil may be ok,but Fram filters are probably the worst filters out there.The McDonalds of oil filters.Google them if you dont believe me.
    post edited by flyseye - 2011/11/21 13:47:03
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 14:33:05 (permalink)
    Anyone remember the Frantz filters where you inserted a roll of toilet paper? 
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 16:02:23 (permalink)
    Our 2007 Malibu has an oil life indicator (shows percentage of estimated remaining life) so I go by that...well, I used to.  Since the 19-year-old is its near-exclusive driver I just let her boyfriend do it now.
     
    The 2001 Impala displays a "Change Oil" message when it thinks it's necessary, and I change the oil in my 1984 Blazer whenever I get around to it.
     
    I'm also a non-Fram user when it comes to filters and I prefer oils refined by Ashland (Valvoline and lots of store brands), although right now I'm using some old Pennzoil 10W-40 in the Blazer because my dad gave me a case he found in his garage.
     
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 16:14:38 (permalink)
    I was an oil change nut, every 3000 miles.  Thirty years ago, I even installed a pit in my warehouse.  Now....I'm too old and lazy to do it myself and I follow the manufacturers recommendation(sort of).
     
    My Acura owners manual says to change the filter after 7500 miles, then, oil and filter after 15000 miles.  I change oil and filter and rotate the tires every 7500 miles.
     
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 17:42:06 (permalink)
    Not to derail this thread,but I am always amazed how "Roadfooders" who like to frequent small,independently owned diners,turn around and flock into Walmart. I mean,do you just throw that philosophy out the window regarding everything but food? You will pay more to go to a diner for a hamburger,but wont shell out a few extra bucks to go to an independent garage to get your oil changed?(and please spare me the "Walmart does just as good a job" bs. 
     
    Not trying to rag on people,I just really dont see how one justifies preaching roadfood,then turns around and throws the entire premise out the window regarding everything else.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 18:48:56 (permalink)
    In the current economy, I think a lot of people are having to choose what is really important to them.  In almost every case with Roadfooders, the higher quality of the food is the driving force, which means they have to try to find cheaper sources for less important items, which may very well include shopping at Walmart.  If you are financially well enough off to be able to live at the same level you did 10 years ago, you are very lucky.  Please give all of the rest of us a break.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 19:22:03 (permalink)
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    In the current economy, I think a lot of people are having to choose what is really important to them.  In almost every case with Roadfooders, the higher quality of the food is the driving force, which means they have to try to find cheaper sources for less important items, which may very well include shopping at Walmart.  If you are financially well enough off to be able to live at the same level you did 10 years ago, you are very lucky.  Please give all of the rest of us a break.

     
    If you dont think your local meat market has higher quality meat than Walmart,I really dont know what to say.Please give me a break,I call pure BS. And it is past foolish to assume I am even moderately wealthy, why would you even say such a thing when you have not the foggiest idea who I am? I am guessing it is because my previous post hit a little close to home.
     
     
     
    Good day.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 20:23:21 (permalink)
    my butcher shop has meat alot better than wal mart and the price is the same.i find walmart to be overpriced and overrated .my local wegmans is cheaper on alot of things.i wont shop walmart. the buffalo area is blessed to have alot of local stores to deal with and keep our money local.
    post edited by starfire62 - 2011/11/21 20:36:21
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 20:50:36 (permalink)
    Hey Guys, no arguing.  Just flag the posts you don't like as "SPAM" and watch them disappear!
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 21:00:39 (permalink)
    Ignoring the derailment...
     
    Just got back from Jiffy Lube. They have my business from here on in. What a pleasure!
     
    I drive up, they look up my record and see I had used the synthetic in the past and asked if I wanted to use it again. He said that it was good for 6000 miles. I told him that I just wanted the regular $19.95 oil change in my coupon. He asked without looking at my air filter if I wanted a new one. Records showed that I last changed it about a year ago. I told him no and that was that.  I'm sure they checked it just in case.
     
     Twenty minutes later and $24 I was finished and on my way. No pressure, just the oil change that I wanted. The only difference I noticed is that Jiffy Lube charges $2.50 for hazardous waste disposal,a whole, whopping
    fifty cents more than SLE-ZLube.
     
     For $25 there's no way I'll change my own oil. They checked and topped off the fluids that needed it and if I run low on oil (which I won't) before 3,000 miles they'll give me up to two quarts free.
     
    I've used independants.  It's about convenience for me... and price for the same service.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 21:19:17 (permalink)
    We have a tire store chain that offers a low price oil change in all their printed ads. Unfortunately when you actually go to get one you will probably be told there is a long wait. It seems everyone buying tires goes to the front of the line.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/21 21:30:27 (permalink)
    I wouldn't be caught dead with meat from Walmart, it's dreadful. Oil or toilet paper, yes. And I can get the big bottles of Tapatio for 3 bucks, I'll tear through one of those in under two weeks. I have an independant grocery down the street that has a great meat department at about the best prices in town.
     
    Mar, I can change my own oil in about 15 minutes, so that's generally convenient for me, and the price is usually right.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/22 01:08:47 (permalink)
    I don't like touching food.  Do you really think I'd like touching a dirty oil filter?
     
    My mother told me never to buy marinated meat because it's bad.  A small, independant Latin market near here had beautiful marinated meat for asada.
     
    I almost died.
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    Re:Auto Oil Changes 2011/11/22 06:14:28 (permalink)
    I still stick to the every 3000 miles rule. Probably dont need to, but its peace of mind. I'll change the oil in my truck because I can get underneath of it without jacking it up. The other vehicles I take to an independent shop.
     
    Always thought it was funny that my motorcycle costs more to change the oil in then the cars and truck because of the synthetic oil I use. Costs $45.00.
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