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C2CD

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Batteries, What's best???? Sun, 06/30/13 10:37 PM (permalink)
What's going on Guys & Gals;
I have a question. My battery for my water pump has been a bit unreliable lately. It is just the cheap POS I got with the cart. What type do you all use? What's best to use? I have heard the 12V Marine ones, but I am not trying to spend $100+ for one. I have heard use car Batteries, but if it works for a car then I would think that is way more battery than I need for that little bitty pump I have. So what is good? What is practical? I don't mind having to charge it each night and to be honest I don't use that water in the cart that much at all besides wetting a towel or two and washing my hands.
 
Thanks in advance for your input 
 
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    BpCBlake

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    Re:Batteries, What's best???? Mon, 07/1/13 12:10 AM (permalink)
    bens carts has some long lasting marine batteries with a good output. he sells them for the fridge/freezer and pumps and lights.
     
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      THE WILD DOG

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      Re:Batteries, What's best???? Mon, 07/1/13 8:41 AM (permalink)
      Hot Dog Mafia = Bens carts...  FYI
       
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        Tristan225

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        Re:Batteries, What's best???? Mon, 07/1/13 9:19 AM (permalink)
        Just last week I got a 35aH AGM, deep cell that is often used in big Harley's for about $92.00, including tax, from Batteries Plus. The case is pretty small and lite. So much better than lugging a big battery around and so far it has lasted 2 full , hot, days on my Edgestar (mobile fridge). After looking around that's a pretty good price for such a battery. I was surprised by the prices at Battery's Plus.  
         
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          BpCBlake

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          Re:Batteries, What's best???? Mon, 07/1/13 11:14 AM (permalink)
          You dont mess with the dogfather
           
           
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            C2CD

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            Re:Batteries, What's best???? Mon, 07/1/13 1:08 PM (permalink)
            Looked at Bens carts, it is the same thing that came with my cart, I wanted something..... Better 
             
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              BpCBlake

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              Re:Batteries, What's best???? Mon, 07/1/13 3:20 PM (permalink)
              wierd. It was on his facebook timeline a new bigger better battery advertised. email him and ask. or go to his facebook page and search for it.
               
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                C2CD

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                Re:Batteries, What's best???? Mon, 07/1/13 8:01 PM (permalink)
                BpCBlake


                wierd. It was on his facebook timeline a new bigger better battery advertised. email him and ask. or go to his facebook page and search for it.

                I'll try that, maybe it is not updated on the website yet or something, but the one he is selling on his website right now I can get for like $10.89 + free shipping on Ebay. he wants $39.99
                 
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                  daddywoofdawg

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                  Re:Batteries, What's best???? Tue, 07/2/13 2:17 AM (permalink)
                  Look at motorcycle or lawn mower battery. 
                   
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                    C2CD

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                    Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 9:30 AM (permalink)
                    I came across this one, I think it is good, but I must say I don't know anything about batteries here are the specs 
                     
                    SKU SLA-12V-20AH-T3   Watts 264W   Weight 12.45 lbs Chemistry Lead Acid   Cells 6   Length 7.15 in Volts 12V   Connector Nut and Bolt   Width 3.03 in Amps 22 AH   Warranty 18-Month Warranty   Height 6.59 in
                     
                     

                     
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                      brickboo

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                      Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 10:02 AM (permalink)
                      Josh,
                      I wash my hands around the house all day. I'm a hand washer. There are needs for batteries on a cart I'm sure, but to wash your hands is overkill IMO.
                      I get all of the hot and cold water that I need from gravity flow to wash my hands on my cart. I have to keep a bucket of bleach water anyway to wipe the food spills up etc.
                       
                      I'm not allowed to wash any utensils on site. I was told that if I drop my hand utensils on the ground that I can not wash and use them again and that I need to keep several utensils with me at all times in case I do drop them.
                       
                      What's the big deal for batteries and pressurized water just to wash hands? I'm confused again.
                       
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                        edwmax

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                        Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 11:17 AM (permalink)
                        brickboo


                        Josh,
                        I wash my hands around the house all day. I'm a hand washer. There are needs for batteries on a cart I'm sure, but to wash your hands is overkill IMO.
                        I get all of the hot and cold water that I need from gravity flow to wash my hands on my cart. I have to keep a bucket of bleach water anyway to wipe the food spills up etc.

                        I'm not allowed to wash any utensils on site. I was told that if I drop my hand utensils on the ground that I can not wash and use them again and that I need to keep several utensils with me at all times in case I do drop them.

                        What's the big deal for batteries and pressurized water just to wash hands? I'm confused again.

                         
                        hahaha  ... NC code as well as many others require a 'pressurized' water supply.  Many HD fail to realize that gravity feed water supply is pressurized and no different than the city system with elevated water tanks.    ... ie: a flowing 'tap water' system is a pressurized system or wouldn't work.   ... Thus many HD require a 'mechanical' pressurized system when the code only states 'pressurized'.   These codes by requiring 'pressurized' water (tap water system) are only indicating the use of water in open buckets or pouring water from buckets is not acceptable.
                         
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                          brickboo

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                          Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 11:31 AM (permalink)
                          Edwax,
                          Thanks for the info. I didn't realize it was a requirement, because it's not required here.
                           
                          So do other HD's require a gallon of water in a bucket with one cap of bleach for wiping food spills or whatever from the cart?
                           
                          Thanks again
                           
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                            chefbuba

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                            Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 2:11 PM (permalink)
                            It's standard practice, your not being singled out.
                             
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                              C2CD

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                              Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 3:25 PM (permalink)
                              NC required me to get a set up like this, this is my actual cart not a stock image, and I needed 4 sinks, WHY????? I only use one. the hand washing sink, with the on/off switch for the pump. Why do I need a wash,rinse,sanitize if it is not sufficient and I still have to go to the commissary? No one seems to be able to answer this
                               
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                                edwmax

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                                Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 3:27 PM (permalink)
                                brickboo


                                Edwax,
                                Thanks for the info. I didn't realize it was a requirement, because it's not required here.

                                So do other HD's require a gallon of water in a bucket with one cap of bleach for wiping food spills or whatever from the cart?

                                Thanks again

                                As Chef said that is standard food safety practice every where.  Since you are not allowed to wash utensils on the cart, I assume you only have a single hand wash sink.   So the your HD allows you to use a bucket of sanitizing water for wiping spills.    ... Other locations require 3 sinks (soppy wash; sanitizing rinse; & clear water rinse) on the cart.
                                 
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                                  sillydogz

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                                  Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 5:15 PM (permalink)
                                  Boo,
                                      The only thing my HD checked on my cart was that I had a pressurized system and that it put out a continuous stream of 116 degree water.

                                  I also need a good deep cycle battery on my cart because I currently am only open at night. I run a spotlight hung under my umbrella pointing down that has a 60w  equivalent LED bulb in it. 
                                   
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                                    brickboo

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                                    Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 5:50 PM (permalink)
                                    Edwax,
                                    My cart came with three sinks. One in front and two half the size of the front one right behind it. 
                                     
                                    So some HDs allow the washing of utensils on an open pull behind (towed) cart at the location site eh?
                                     
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                                      slammin

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                                      Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 7:43 PM (permalink)
                                      Buy a deep-cycle marine battery. They are designed to be run till they are almost dead and then recharged, time and time again. You do that with a standard auto battery and it will be dead in a month. Auto batteries are constantly recharged as you drive. Leave the lights on a few times and run the battery dead and the battery will stop taking a charge. The marine batteries are more money, but well worth it.
                                       
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                                        C2CD

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                                        Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 8:41 PM (permalink)
                                        slammin


                                        Buy a deep-cycle marine battery. They are designed to be run till they are almost dead and then recharged, time and time again. You do that with a standard auto battery and it will be dead in a month. Auto batteries are constantly recharged as you drive. Leave the lights on a few times and run the battery dead and the battery will stop taking a charge. The marine batteries are more money, but well worth it.

                                        That is what I hear time and time again, but I have not found a Marine Battery for under $100, and I can't justify that kind of money to wash my hands in a sink. Perhaps if I had like lights and some other electrical stuff going on I could see it, but not too wash my hands for 30 secs a couple times a day. Thanks for the advice though.
                                         
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                                          sillydogz

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                                          Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 8:48 PM (permalink)
                                          Mafia, 
                                             Do you vend during the day? Is there plenty of sun? Why not hook your battery up to a solar trickle charger. They have them on amazon for 30-50. If you did that you could buy a cheaper battery that wasn't deep cycle and wouldn't have to worry about damaging the battery by running it too low
                                           
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                                            C2CD

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                                            Re:Batteries, What's best???? Fri, 07/5/13 8:55 PM (permalink)
                                            sillydogz


                                            Mafia, 
                                             Do you vend during the day? Is there plenty of sun? Why not hook your battery up to a solar trickle charger. They have them on amazon for 30-50. If you did that you could buy a cheaper battery that wasn't deep cycle and wouldn't have to worry about damaging the battery by running it too low

                                            That is a really good Idea, and right up my alley. I love green energy and from sources that are renewable. My only concern is I have not heard good reviews from the cheaper ones, do you have any personal experience with them? I do live in the mountains and it is cloudy and rainy here, like a lot, but I will be moving my operation back to Virginia Beach. So it could be an option.
                                             
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                                              sillydogz

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                                              Re:Batteries, What's best???? Sat, 07/6/13 11:29 AM (permalink)
                                              I don't have experience with them but I did research it. there's some on amazon that while inexpensive have decent reviews. Once I start vending full time and will be out during the day I plan on hooking one up.
                                               
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                                                biker jim

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                                                Re:Batteries, What's best???? Tue, 07/23/13 10:24 PM (permalink)
                                                I have found that if you charge and use and recharge a battery often, especially on a hot cart all day, it will fail...probably within a year or so.  Therefore I recommend Costco for a marine battery.  Their warranties are pretty unbeatable, and their prices are very competitive.  Selection, not so much.  I buy big batteries and run lights, put in an ac inverter and run a stereo, charge CC machines, etc...
                                                My 2 cents.
                                                 
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