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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/26 00:15:41 (permalink)
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There's not a great wine under $10. Passable, but not great. As a wine consultant, I taste through about 3000 wines a year for my clients, and I'll often discover a delicious $15-$20 bottle. As for 2 buck chuck, it never tastes like anything but a $1 wine in a $1 bottle. I do think Trader Joes has wines that are tasty enough for every night in the $4-$10 range though.


Sorry for the rant; for me this topic is my own personal "that's not chili."


That's funny, because the Charles Shaw 2002 Shiraz bested 2300 wines at the International Eastern Wine Competition and earned a double gold. The 2005 Chardonnay received 98 points, a double gold, with accolades of Best of California and Best of Class at the 2007 California State Fair and Exposition. Even if one doesn't agree with the results, one has to concede that these two particular vintage and bottlings were certainly among the top and along side those higher priced (above $30) wines. However, Charles Shaw is always a chance, since they bottle each wine about 4 times per year. So, one must taste before buying. However, I also doubt I would waste time on Charles Shaw if I was searching for wine for a client. It's a much different thing finding a decent table wine and finding a decent crafted wine.


I think the trick to finding a great $10 bottle, is to actualy be drinking a $15-28 bottle that is on sale at your local wine shop. Some wine shops will work with distributors on buying wine that a winery is getting off their hands for one reason or another - hopefully the reason is to make room for newer batches.
Although, even then, $12-15 seems to be the sale price of the better affordable finds.

As per the "expert" who said he will not drink any Australian wine and likened it to "soda pop," he has indeed missed some fine wineries. However, I think sometimes, wine classes try to lure you away from Aussy wines because the vast majority of exported wine from Australia is from these huge wineries in the South Eastern portion of the country. And they, for the most part, are low-end wines. And, as I stated earlier, these wines are not crafted to have any distinguishing features. So, the reason for the expert to be so verbose about not getting Aussy wine, is to steer you clear of the mass-produced wines.

Lately, I've found some better than decent Argentinian wines. Even though even just a few years ago, I had sworn off the wines that are imported from Argentina, a relatively recent tasting at Pearson's changed my mind, no doubt due to the fact that some of the better wines are making their way to the US now.

here's a recent article from Pearson's (my local wine shop) that reprints some information Steve Silver (the proprietor) sent out last year about some Argentinian wines. (plus, if you're intersted, there's some information about an Aussy winery that is putting out good $20 bottle near the bottom of the page)http://www.pearsonswine.com/index.php?name=News&catid=&topic=8

Through Steve's emails over the years, the Saturday tastings have become a sort of hobby for me and very educational. I even bought a boxed wine on his recommendation, and was satisfied!





(edited to add the Pearson's link. thanks MiamiDon)



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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/26 05:04:39 (permalink)
These days it's good to check out any local wineries. Some of these make a good wine..and with less overhead,you can get a decent wine for around 10.00. Here in Jersey we have a few. Renault Winery in Egg Harbor makes some great wines..and many stores in Jersey stock their wines.
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/26 10:50:03 (permalink)
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These days it's good to check out any local wineries. Some of these make a good wine..and with less overhead,you can get a decent wine for around 10.00. Here in Jersey we have a few. Renault Winery in Egg Harbor makes some great wines..and many stores in Jersey stock their wines.


That is my biggest pet peeve of Virginia alcohol laws.
The wineries must sell them to individuals for full retail price at the winery, even if they are unloading a couple hundred cases on the cheap to a re-seller (like my local wine shop). So, the best prices on the wine are never at the wineries. How stupidly twisted is that!?! In NY, there were always deals to be had at the wineries, and the best price was almost always at the winery. That was the best part of living in the Finger Lakes. I'd just drive to the winery for the best deal, and get a free tasting to boot. Virginia needs to update their blue laws! It really makes wine tours not as great as they could be.



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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/26 14:09:09 (permalink)
Yes,that's a great way to get tuned in to a great wine deal...a wine tasting at a good local winery. We've found some favorites that way...at worst, you get to quench your thirst free!!
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/26 14:48:35 (permalink)
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Originally posted by uncledaveyo

There's not a great wine under $10. Passable, but not great. As a wine consultant, I taste through about 3000 wines a year for my clients, and I'll often discover a delicious $15-$20 bottle. As for 2 buck chuck, it never tastes like anything but a $1 wine in a $1 bottle. I do think Trader Joes has wines that are tasty enough for every night in the $4-$10 range though.


Sorry for the rant; for me this topic is my own personal "that's not chili."



I think the trick to finding a great $10 bottle, is to actualy be drinking a $15-28 bottle that is on sale at your local wine shop. Some wine shops will work with distributors on buying wine that a winery is getting off their hands for one reason or another - hopefully the reason is to make room for newer batches.
Although, even then, $12-15 seems to be the sale price of the better affordable finds.

As per the "expert" who said he will not drink any Australian wine and likened it to "soda pop," he has indeed missed some fine wineries. However, I think sometimes, wine classes try to lure you away from Aussy wines because the vast majority of exported wine from Australia is from these huge wineries in the South Eastern portion of the country. And they, for the most part, are low-end wines. And, as I stated earlier, these wines are not crafted to have any distinguishing features. So, the reason for the expert to be so verbose about not getting Aussy wine, is to steer you clear of the mass-produced wines.

Lately, I've found some better than decent Argentinian wines. Even though even just a few years ago, I had sworn off the wines that are imported from Argentina, a relatively recent tasting at Pearson's changed my mind, no doubt due to the fact that some of the better wines are making their way to the US now.

here's a recent article from Pearson's (my local wine shop) that reprints some information Steve Silver (the proprietor) sent out last year about some Argentinian wines. (plus, if you're intersted, there's some information about an Aussy winery that is putting out good $20 bottle at the bottom of the page)






Ditto on the $30 wine for $10 in your local wine shop. I have a local wine seller who searches out deals like that. He often has discounts on nice wines that have damaged labels that the fancier shops won't touch.

Re: Argentine wines - The French (and Americans, too) have been working to improve vinification methods for years in Argentina, and the results are begining to show. The same with Chile, although I think they are further along.

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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/26 15:42:26 (permalink)
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Re: Argentine wines - The French (and Americans, too) have been working to improve vinification methods for years in Argentina, and the results are begining to show. The same with Chile, although I think they are further along.


I agree. I also think that newer legislation like the TPA in 2002, has helped to improve trade with South America, which has led it to be more economically viable for some of the better wineries to export to US.

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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/26 15:47:56 (permalink)
There are some terrific wines at Costco for under $10.00. Check them out. You can't go wrong at Costco. Btw, they are this country's largest wine retailer.
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/26 15:51:26 (permalink)
Not in our neck of the woods...In NJ you have to get a liquor license and most Costco's can't get them. Seems the Government wants to protect our mom and pop liquor store from being undersold by the likes of Costco!!!
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/26 15:54:05 (permalink)
Two Buck Chuck is THREE BUCK Chuck in AZ. Guess the cost of shipping from CA affected the price. Available at Trader Joe's this week is a Velvet Moon Cab for $5.99 plus a bunch of others for undre $10 Bucks. http://www.traderjoes.com
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/26 16:02:13 (permalink)
In Jersey they'd be at least Five Buck Chuck!
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/26 16:10:15 (permalink)
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In Jersey they'd be at least Five Buck Chuck!


Check them out at a location near you:
Edgewater*
715 River Road
Edgewater, NJ 07020
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 201-945-5932
Florham Park*
186 Columbia Turnpike
Florham Park, NJ 07932
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 973-514-1511
Marlton*
300 P Route 73 South
Marlton, NJ 08053
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 856-988-3323
Paramus*
404 Rt. 17 North
Paramus, NJ 07652
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 201-265-9624
Wayne*
1172 Hamburg Turnpike
Wayne, NJ 07470
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 973-692-0050
Westfield
155 Elm St.
Westfield, NJ 07090
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 908-301-0910
Westwood*
20 Irvington Street
Westwood, NJ 07675
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 201-263
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/26 22:47:15 (permalink)
Thanks for the info.!
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/27 19:24:30 (permalink)
Gold medals at huge mega tastings are virtually meaningless. Enter enough wines in enough competitions and you will get medals and ribbons aplenty no matter how foul your wine is. And yes, by that, I am implying Charles Shaw wines are foul. I do agree with the assertation that the trick to finding the best value is to find a more expensive wine on sale.

I taste about 3000 wines a year and end up taking on about 5% of those for my shop. They do range in price from $11 up to several hundreds of dollars a bottle. I have no trouble at all distinguishing an $11 bottle from a $100 bottle in a tasting: its discerning a $40 bottle from a $100 one where its get tough, and I think thats where I think many wines end up being overpriced.
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/28 07:30:23 (permalink)
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Gold medals at huge mega tastings are virtually meaningless. Enter enough wines in enough competitions and you will get medals and ribbons aplenty no matter how foul your wine is. And yes, by that, I am implying Charles Shaw wines are foul. I do agree with the assertation that the trick to finding the best value is to find a more expensive wine on sale.

I taste about 3000 wines a year and end up taking on about 5% of those for my shop. They do range in price from $11 up to several hundreds of dollars a bottle. I have no trouble at all distinguishing an $11 bottle from a $100 bottle in a tasting: its discerning a $40 bottle from a $100 one where its get tough, and I think thats where I think many wines end up being overpriced.


well said
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/28 07:44:26 (permalink)
We cook a lot of Southeast Asian food and Mediterranean/Middle Eastern Food. Sometimes wine can be tricky with the Asian food we make, but we found a decent bottle of white, Colombelle, from Gascony, for $7.99. Works well every time, even with spicy stuff.

For Mediterranean and Middle Eastern food we have found a red wine, Rene Barbiere Mediterranean Red for $5.99 that is perfect everyday wine for rustic food. It's from Spain.


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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/28 08:11:50 (permalink)
Arbor Mist (Sangria)
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/28 08:20:47 (permalink)
Wolf Blass yelow label Cabernet is a favorite of mine for about $10 a pop

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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/28 08:36:38 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Foodbme

quote:
Originally posted by leethebard

In Jersey they'd be at least Five Buck Chuck!


Check them out at a location near you:
Edgewater*
715 River Road
Edgewater, NJ 07020
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 201-945-5932
Florham Park*
186 Columbia Turnpike
Florham Park, NJ 07932
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 973-514-1511
Marlton*
300 P Route 73 South
Marlton, NJ 08053
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 856-988-3323
Paramus*
404 Rt. 17 North
Paramus, NJ 07652
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 201-265-9624
Wayne*
1172 Hamburg Turnpike
Wayne, NJ 07470
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 973-692-0050
Westfield
155 Elm St.
Westfield, NJ 07090
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 908-301-0910
Westwood*
20 Irvington Street
Westwood, NJ 07675
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 201-263

The Westwood and Paramus locations don't sell wine. Does anyone know if any of the other New Jersey locations do?
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/28 10:49:27 (permalink)
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Gold medals at huge mega tastings are virtually meaningless. Enter enough wines in enough competitions and you will get medals and ribbons aplenty no matter how foul your wine is. And yes, by that, I am implying Charles Shaw wines are foul. I taste about 3000 wines a year


Look, I don't mean to beat a dead horse. And I'm no huge proponent of Charles Shaw. While I agree that Gold Metals aren't difficult to attain if you enter enough mega-festivals (see Barefoot wines), but these two particular bottles I'm talking about actually earned double gold and first place honors at prestigous festivals. In your 3000 wines per year, since you're tasting wines for clients, I doubt you would even come across these two bottles - since there's no way a consultant could even suggest Charles Shaw to clients, I wouldn't think Charles Chaw would be on the list.

My point on Charles Shaw, is that since they get their grapes from various sources and have four separate bottlings per year, there can be a "gem" in there, about once per year. The trick is finding it. Why? because the grapes could've come off of any of the high end vineyards. One just never knows. I'm also not saying that a Charles Shaw bottle will taste like a $100 bottle. But, certain bottles have been better than many of the Yellow Tails and other South Eastern Australia wines on the market (which I'm clearly biased against - we each have our own pet peeve I guess). So, when talking about $10 bottles, one can add CS as a possibility, as long as one does a tasting first - to be sure it's ok for casual drinking.

It's easy to raise one's snout to Charles Shaw, lord knows I did the first time I saw it. But, the 2002 Shiraz turned my head, especially for a table wine or vin ordinaire. And it was far better than Yellow Tail Shiraz. So, I ask the guy at trader joe's to crack open a bottle and see how the quarterly batch turned out. Although, I have not had much success since the 2005 Chardonnay, except for a Merlot, which I don't recall the year or bottling. Other than that, the past two years have been dismal.

Anyway, you may raise your nose, and even have the last word on how awful you think CS is. That's fine. I think I've said all I can say for CS, and probably have over advertised/hyped it. I don't make wine tasting my living, but I do take several wine trips a year, and go to weekly tastings. So, while I'm no pro, I'm pretty confident with my wine picks.
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/28 11:34:03 (permalink)
My Picks for Wines under $10.00 are Kendall-Jackson Chardonnay, and Clos Du Bois Chardonnay (North Coast) Now, I live in the South-West part of the USA (Las Vegas) and I always find these bottles at or around $7.99 to $11.99 for the last 5 years! Albertsons always have the good deals! Salute!
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/28 15:05:36 (permalink)
Anyone remember that article on blind wine tasting that was influenced by the price of the wine? I think they tricked the tasters with mislabeled prices so that cheaper wines came out better rated than the expensive wines.
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/28 20:52:21 (permalink)
Nice Scorereader. "Raising one's snout." Calling me a pig is really going to sway me.

I actually was probably a little over the top with my criticism; sorry about that. I've battled for years the position that "everyone is their own best wine critic" and I should have practiced what I preach. For the record, I don't raise my nose at cheap wine; I buy many $4-$10 wines at T.Joes. I just don't enjoy Charles Shaw, and since they pour it at every gallery opening in town, I've had it many times.
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/28 22:32:37 (permalink)
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Anyone remember that article on blind wine tasting that was influenced by the price of the wine? I think they tricked the tasters with mislabeled prices so that cheaper wines came out better rated than the expensive wines.


I do remember that. Sheep, sheep, sheep...
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/28 22:45:40 (permalink)
There is an Australian wine bottled under a label called Black Opal- it's very respectable and holds up well with almost everything that you would pair a red wine with. For under $10.00.

Wine maker notes:
The 2006 Black Opal Cabernet Merlot is deep crimson to purple. The aromas display excellent regional and varietal characters of berry and spice. These scents follow through with rich cherry and plum flavors, a hint of chocolate and a subtle touch of oak. The flavors develop well and finish with a long finely textured mouth feel. The Cabernet Sauvignon (62%) provides depth and cellaring potential. The Merlot (38%) in this well-balanced blend softens the palate to ensure this wine is enjoyable to drink immediately.
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/28 23:02:11 (permalink)
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Originally posted by agnesrob

quote:
Originally posted by Foodbme

quote:
Originally posted by leethebard

In Jersey they'd be at least Five Buck Chuck!


Check them out at a location near you:
Edgewater*
715 River Road
Edgewater, NJ 07020
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 201-945-5932
Florham Park*
186 Columbia Turnpike
Florham Park, NJ 07932
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 973-514-1511
Marlton*
300 P Route 73 South
Marlton, NJ 08053
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 856-988-3323
Paramus*
404 Rt. 17 North
Paramus, NJ 07652
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 201-265-9624
Wayne*
1172 Hamburg Turnpike
Wayne, NJ 07470
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 973-692-0050
Westfield
155 Elm St.
Westfield, NJ 07090
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 908-301-0910
Westwood*
20 Irvington Street
Westwood, NJ 07675
Trading Hours: 9 am – 9 pm
Phone: 201-263

The Westwood and Paramus locations don't sell wine. Does anyone know if any of the other New Jersey locations do?


The one in Westfield does.
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/29 00:16:44 (permalink)
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Nice Scorereader. "Raising one's snout." Calling me a pig is really going to sway me.

I actually was probably a little over the top with my criticism; sorry about that. I've battled for years the position that "everyone is their own best wine critic" and I should have practiced what I preach. For the record, I don't raise my nose at cheap wine; I buy many $4-$10 wines at T.Joes. I just don't enjoy Charles Shaw, and since they pour it at every gallery opening in town, I've had it many times.


oops, sorry. didn't mean to mean "pig." I meant snooty, not piggy. Anyhoo, you did say you buy $4-$10 bottles as well, so I shouldn't have been so pig-headed, myself.

"since they pour it at every gallery opening in town, I've had it many times." ----are your clients starving artists? I should know...I am one. Well, not starving. But, struggling. Thank god for day jobs!
So, in that case, I don't blame you for loathing Charles Shaw wines. You would think artists would know the meaning of variety and not serve the same Two Buck Chuck-ing wine.


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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/29 08:49:25 (permalink)
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I'm always on the lookout for a great bargain on wine. Do you have any favorite red and white wines that come in at $10.00 or less....famous label or little gem??? How about some suggestions!!


leethebard, I live in the "Peoples Republic of Pennsylvania" when it comes to wine and spirts. State owned stores, poor selection, unreasonable prices, etc.

When I travel I always stop in New Jersey and New York for my wine purchases. But before I purchase I do my research online at the different wine shops. You can search by price, region, grape type, etc. The online search will give also give you any scores that are available from professional tasters such as Wine Spectator and Wine Advocate. Jersey is really a great place for wine shops.

My favorites are http://www.winelegend.com/ , http://winelibrary.com/ and if you know what wine you want nobody beats the prices at http://www.popswine.com/

My favorite wine for under 10 bucks right now is Falesco Vitiano.
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/29 15:50:02 (permalink)
joerogo,
I agree,Jersey is a great state for wine selections....I just wish our prices were better...Still the wine shop one mile from my home allows me to cruise the aisles for hours if I wish!
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/29 18:29:42 (permalink)
Jersey Pricing averages 20% - 40% less than Pa.

Try this for the best price http://www.wine-searcher.com/ . You can search by state or the whole contry.

Some wine shops even have free in state shipping.
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RE: Best Bottle of Wine under $10.00 2008/02/29 19:04:26 (permalink)
I reciently found a bottle of wine under 5 dollars that may be the finest I have tried up to 60 dollars. This little known nectar of the vine has a fruity taste with a very sweet finish. Its reddish color is beautiful and full bodied. And the after taste lingers on just long enough. It is bottled at a famous farm called Boones. It matches well with Goverment Cheese, Ramen Noodles, Generic Hot Dogs, Spaghetti Os, and Popcorn. Try it today its called Strawberry Hill...Russ
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