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mattcrunk

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Best way to cook a hot dog? Mon, 06/4/07 9:44 PM (permalink)
OK, here's a real meat and potatos question for the sensai's here:

The best way to cook a dog . . .
Steamed, broiled, boiled, grilled, deep fried?

What's you opinions on, and the pros and cons of each?

How about offering them more than one way?

 
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    Poverty Pete

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    RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Mon, 06/4/07 10:10 PM (permalink)
    I hear Koreans like 'em stir-fried.
     
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      rickmalek

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      RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Mon, 06/4/07 10:16 PM (permalink)
      Matt I am a little bit tired of this.

      It is perfectly OK to ask questions. It is even OK to ask crazy questions, as I have asked several on here, but you are asking a question that has already been debated, TO DEATH in previous posts.

      DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS!

      It seems like you want to have a hot dog hobby but don't want to invest any time working at it or spending time learning about it.

      Dude, spend one hour a night for the next month reading previous posts on this board and then reset your expectations about this business.
       
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        Bushie

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        RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Mon, 06/4/07 11:11 PM (permalink)
        quote:
        Originally posted by Poverty Pete

        I hear Koreans like 'em stir-fried.

        Yeah, but there's nothing quite like a Yorkie turned on a spit over glowing coals. I like to stuff an apple in it's mouth, and an onion up the other end...
         
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          mattcrunk

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          RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Mon, 06/4/07 11:12 PM (permalink)
          quote:
          Originally posted by rickmalek

          Matt I am a little bit tired of this.

          It is perfectly OK to ask questions. It is even OK to ask crazy questions, as I have asked several on here, but you are asking a question that has already been debated, TO DEATH in previous posts.

          DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS!



          Excuse me Rick, but if you don't like the question, don't read the thread. It's as simple as that.

          FYI, I did a search for cooking hot dogs and came up with all kinds of hits - none if which seemed to have the info I wanted: I want professional opinions on the best way to cook a hot dog. I know how I like a dog cooked. But I want to hear different takes on it from those who do it for a living, and the pros and cons of each method.

          Is that so hard?

          If you know of specific posts addressing this issue in depth- point me to a few. Thanks.
           
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            fdm813

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            RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 12:37 AM (permalink)
            Please, no flames. I like my Hebrew National dogs grilled in a cast iron skillet.
             
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              MikeS.

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              RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 7:17 AM (permalink)
              Over a wood or charcoal fire, slightly blackened.
               
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                Namho

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                RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 7:48 AM (permalink)
                If you are selling at a slower pace, grilling is fine if it a fast pace you will have to boil. I like mine grilled but I couldnt keep up with the traffic so I sell a dirty water dog.
                 
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                  Fieldthistle

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                  RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 11:43 AM (permalink)
                  Hello All,
                  The local place I love to visit...I don't how to
                  say how they do it. It is a large steel, flat surface,
                  uncovered, in which they place up to 12 to 15 dogs
                  on. Underneath the flat steel surface is a heating
                  source that no one sees.
                  Matt, do you like ketchup?
                  Take Care,
                  Fieldthistle
                   
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                    mattcrunk

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                    RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 12:00 PM (permalink)
                    quote:
                    Originally posted by Fieldthistle

                    Matt, do you like ketchup?
                    Take Care,
                    Fieldthistle


                    Sometimes, on some things. Even on some hot dogs.

                    -MC
                     
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                      doggydaddy

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                      RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 1:33 PM (permalink)


                      === OK, here's a real meat and potatos question for the sensai's here: ===

                      With beans.

                      I work with a charcoal burning grill at my job. There is nothing like seeing grill marks on a dog. I take pride that they look like something out of a picture.
                      Of course, they must be served in a split top bun, do you have those in Alabama?

                      ===..Excuse me Rick, but if you don't like the question, don't read the thread. It's as simple as that.===

                      I think that rick is a great example of someone who has used this forum for help and as a way to share his experience in what he was going through. Too be honest, he has been one of my favorite posters as it has been a roller coaster ride for him to get where he is. He may not be a sensai master, but he is no grasshopper.... Though you are a business professional, I believe in rick's chances of success(and attitude) are better than yours.
                      Reading his report on his recent 'Triple header' is inspirational.

                      It isn't how any of us like our dogs cooked, but how can you do yours differently and uniquely from the other places. What are you going to do that will bring them in? Frankly, I cannot understand why anyone would go to a hotdog place.
                      I am surrounded by some of Roadfood's best, yet I seem to not care. It is possible that it is due to the fact that I serve the same Hummel brand as the other places. They can also be purchased at the store. If I was going to sell or order some form of tubesteak, I would want to get a gourmet type ala Jodi Moroni.

                      You want to keep some of your ideas and concepts to yourself. The truth is that your secret will be safe here as we are already doing it. I would listen to the pros who have doggie experience, even if they are working a cart. They are twice your age, but they have 100% more experience and insite. That is a good combination. I could take four people from this forum and you would have at least 100 years of doggie knowledge.

                      You say that you make $100 an hour. ( No-one is worth that much, we don't earn that much and you will probably pay your best cook 1/10th of that) How much would you pay to learn to do this right? You are getting free advice here where a consultant would be charging you good money for what has been posted. I'll charge you $110 per hour....

                      mark
                       
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                        Cakes

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                        RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 3:12 PM (permalink)
                        quote:
                        Originally posted by Bushie

                        quote:
                        Originally posted by Poverty Pete

                        I hear Koreans like 'em stir-fried.

                        Yeah, but there's nothing quite like a Yorkie turned on a spit over glowing coals. I like to stuff an apple in it's mouth, and an onion up the other end...


                        That would have to be a crab apple and a scallion.

                        Cakes

                         
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                          lleechef

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                          RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 3:59 PM (permalink)
                          Geeze. It's a freakin HOT DOG! Who cares? Boil it, steam it, grill it, give it to the dawg. Because the cat won't eat it. OK, I suggest you take that hot dog, boil it for 24 hours, smash it up, mix with some canned corn and baked beans. Put ALL of it in the blender and then get out the straws.
                           
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                            rouxdog

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                            RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 4:26 PM (permalink)
                            I enjoy hot dogs from time to time. They're a fun all american food. I AM A CONSUMER, NOT A SELLER. I'm easy, so long as the puppy and bun are hot, condiment selection is fresh and abundant and the price is reasonable, I'll be buying!
                            Ole Rouxdog
                             
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                              doggydaddy

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                              RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 4:37 PM (permalink)
                              quote:
                              Originally posted by lleechef

                              Geeze. It's a freakin HOT DOG! Who cares? Boil it, steam it, grill it, give it to the dawg. Because the cat won't eat it. OK, I suggest you take that hot dog, boil it for 24 hours, smash it up, mix with some canned corn and baked beans. Put ALL of it in the blender and then get out the straws.


                              Tell us how you really feel....
                              From what I do know about you, I bet you could garnish it quite nicely and get a good price for it.

                              mark
                               
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                                prisonchef

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                                RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 4:45 PM (permalink)
                                heck i make my own frankfurters and use lamb casings too boot!!!!! i use a polish made cast iron #32 grinder powered by hand and it grinds 4 pounds of meat a minute if my arm don't wear down. they are stuffed using another item from poland- yep cast iron horn stuffer. i always add prague powder #1 to prevent botulism. i carefully smoke and then water bath them and then shock in an ice bath. to reheat i set my smoker at 165f and apply a heavy smudge of oak. these handmade franks are done in a 4 inch link that yeilds 6 oz of cooked meat. they go for 5 bucks a dog at the market and i only take 20. you can only get them with a good dusseldorf mustard and dont ever ask for ketcup!!! and by the way don't send me any more private e-mails AND NO I WON'T SHARE THE FRANKFURTER RECIPE!!!!.
                                and my business is bbq but after making a 50 pound run of franks for my wife (it was mothers day and that's what she wanted!!!) we started taking some dogs to the market and mine sold big time.
                                so ya want the best way to cook them???!!!! ok!!!!!! 1st learn how to make them!!!!!!!
                                i feel so much better now
                                jack
                                ps. and for the rest that would like the recipe just email me
                                 
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                                  prisonchef

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                                  RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 4:49 PM (permalink)
                                  just read my post
                                  nope it wasn't too strident.
                                  and----
                                  i still feel much better
                                  jack
                                   
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                                    Cakes

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                                    RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 4:56 PM (permalink)
                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by lleechef

                                    Geeze. It's a freakin HOT DOG! Who cares? Boil it, steam it, grill it, give it to the dawg. Because the cat won't eat it. OK, I suggest you take that hot dog, boil it for 24 hours, smash it up, mix with some canned corn and baked beans. Put ALL of it in the blender and then get out the straws.


                                    Creamed or regular corn?

                                    No one has ever mentioned sticking one on a fork and charring it over a burner on the stove.

                                    Cakes

                                     
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                                      Kinsman

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                                      RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 5:06 PM (permalink)
                                      Jack, you are crackin' me up.
                                      Now I love me a good hot dog, and a homemade one I bet would be awesome. No, I don't want the recipe.....what I want to know is, when do you have the time to make them???
                                       
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                                        ShellysDawgHouse

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                                        RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 5:08 PM (permalink)
                                        I use and like sabrett for dirty water and i use hebrew national grilled. I like them both. I like giving a choice but i have to say i may have to elimanate the grilled. (people seem to just want dirty water. I like variety.
                                         
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                                          agnesrob

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                                          RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 5:27 PM (permalink)
                                          Jack, do you cook in a prison? I'm intrigued.
                                           
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                                            Ev1L

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                                            RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 8:02 PM (permalink)
                                            I do not work in the food business. I enjoy reading posts by people genuinely looking for answers. There are some very talented people here and some very humble talented people here.

                                            I know someone posted this, and now I am going to as well.

                                            Why the hate rick? You have 4 billion purely self indulgent posts that can be chalked up to "omg, shut up, dont forget to throw ice on the drinks, etc." And yet no on here ever disparaged you like you have to someone just learning. Who cares if there are 4 billion posts about the same subject? Politely inform them that the search function is great, or even better, why dont you answer the question: grilled, boiled, etc.

                                            I have lurked here a very long time. I dont post much. But rick is so far off base, its sad.


                                            Anyway, depending on the dog, grilled works or boiled. Grilled works with a good chili.

                                            sorry for my rant. there are so many decent people here who genuinely dispense good info and who try to help and this parasite just wants to be an arrogant little pita.


                                            quote:
                                            Originally posted by rickmalek

                                            Matt I am a little bit tired of this.

                                            It is perfectly OK to ask questions. It is even OK to ask crazy questions, as I have asked several on here, but you are asking a question that has already been debated, TO DEATH in previous posts.

                                            DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS!

                                            It seems like you want to have a hot dog hobby but don't want to invest any time working at it or spending time learning about it.

                                            Dude, spend one hour a night for the next month reading previous posts on this board and then reset your expectations about this business.
                                             
                                            #22
                                              BigGlenn

                                              RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 8:25 PM (permalink)
                                              Growing up in the 60's we had a toaster oven. As a kid that was all we were allowed to use. But we lived for Saturday nights. Take regular sandwich bread, Slit a hot dog down the middle, place cheese in the middle and broil it open faced in the toaster oven until cheese is bubbly and the bread some what toasted. A little Mustard, a bag of Lays Chips, a Coke and man were we happy. Desert for the evening, a bowl of Vanilla Ice Cream and Hershey’s Syrup from the can. Stay up late watching the Creature Feature and Dad would sneak up out side bang on the window and scare the hell out of us each week. Good Times.....
                                               
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                                                Michael Hoffman

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                                                RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 9:00 PM (permalink)

                                                Rick's post was reasoned and even. He was correct about the original poster on this thread asking silly question after silly question. It is not the purpose of this section on Roadfood to wetnurse a would-be hotdog salesman. There is a great deal of information already posted that would answer every question this guy has asked over and over again.
                                                 
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                                                  porkchopexpress

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                                                  RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 9:18 PM (permalink)
                                                  quote:
                                                  Originally posted by Ev1L

                                                  rick, you epitomize everything that is bad in society today. I hope some vendor who wants to work hard and learn the trade rolls your next triple header. With all your anxiety and stress coming into this and your nurturing from people on these forums, to turn around and be an arrogant little pr!ck makes me look forward to a post with some noob hot dog vendor's tire marks over your forehead.




                                                  Buddy you got issues
                                                   
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                                                    Greymo

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                                                    RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 9:41 PM (permalink)
                                                    This whole forum is getting so funny. Hey! We are talking hot dogs here, not important world issues. Cook those dogs the way you think best and see what happens! I happen to like slits cut into mine with garlic slivers put in and then marinated overnight. Then throw them on the grill shove them in a roll and add some good mustard...........there you go!
                                                     
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                                                      prisonchef

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                                                      RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 10:36 PM (permalink)
                                                      kinsman!!!!!!
                                                      man it is soooooooooooooooooo good to see ya again!!!!!
                                                      as for when do i find the time i guess the only answer is that come june 14th peg and i will be married 36 years and if she wants frankfurters so be it. really i just cut the process into a 3 day affair. days 1 and 2 are grinding and seasoning and day three is stuffing and cooking. it sounds involved but it really isn't. it could all be done in one 5 hour day but you know my work schedule!!!
                                                      by the way we are taking our 1st vacation in years that does not involve elderly parents and alzhiemer's and parkinson's. peg and i are going for 2 weeks to cajun country. the b&b where we are staying just happens to have a restuarant and the owners make boudin sausage. in return for teaching me about boudin i get to clean the kitchen--fair deal to me for sure!!! peg is taking a swamp tour but i figure louisiana swamps pretty much look like the swamps here oh and since we will be 20 miles from the tabasco plant we are going there also.
                                                      on the way back we are hitting the lady luck casino in natchez,ms. years back i helped a guy who was moving a lady luck rig to ms make up the food list for the crew. darned if i didn't leave out grits but they traded with another group going north--grits for potatoes so all worked out well!!!
                                                      my trailer tech rig is going in for preventive maintaince while we are gone. it hasn't been done in the 3 years we have owned the thing and while we have never had a problem with it it truly needs to be done.
                                                      on the frank thing we have found them to be very profitable just like breaking down a suckling pig at a buck 38/lb. gives the phrase do you have baby backs a whole new meaning and my babby ribs at 1.38/lb cost sure beats 4 bucks!!!
                                                      sure have missed you since my "incident" at cookshack and i am joyous that i got to see ya again!!!
                                                      i will be sure to tell peg!!!!!!
                                                      yer friend,
                                                      jack
                                                       
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                                                        prisonchef

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                                                        RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Tue, 06/5/07 10:55 PM (permalink)
                                                        agnesrob,
                                                        i taught culinary arts for 3 years in a boys prison. all i ever heard was "hey chef boy are dee" till a kid called me prisonchef. i hope that you understand but giving out the kids name is prohibited but he has gone on to get married,join the army, just like he wanted, and has become a pretty fair chef and a father!!! so out of respect to him i just took the nickname he called me and have always used it. and yes my pirates (that's what i always called my students) had knives and the guards didn't!!!!! and no as long as it was my students in the kitchen i was never worried i only worried when the guards brought in a "hard" case to the kitchen and i never could figure that one out.
                                                        peg, my wife, kids me that i always wanted to be a pirate and i guess that's as close as i will ever come!!!!!!
                                                        jack
                                                        ps. the reason i left is that the funding ran out. funny how people forget these guys will come out with no way to make a living and no i ain't no bleeding heart liberal it's just common sense!!!!
                                                         
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                                                          mattcrunk

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                                                          RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Wed, 06/6/07 12:14 AM (permalink)
                                                          quote:
                                                          Rick's post was reasoned and even. He was correct about the original poster on this thread asking silly question after silly question. It is not the purpose of this section on Roadfood to wetnurse a would-be hotdog salesman. There is a great deal of information already posted that would answer every question this guy has asked over and over again.


                                                          One: The only silly question is one that's not asked.

                                                          Two: If the purpose of this "professional" forum is not to answer genuine questions that someone new to the business might have, then what the heck is it's purpose?

                                                          If you're tired of the question being asked, don't read the thread. If you don't have anything of value to contribute, don't reply. If you think it's a topic that's been done to death, skip it and move on. It's really that simple.

                                                          If you don't like my questions, or don't like me, fine. Ignore my posts. Pretend they don't exist. There are a lot of good people on here that I have found very helpful. To them I say thanks.

                                                          But it's apparent from some of the answers that a lot of people don't really even listen to the questions. This one, for example, asked the opinions of professionals on the different methods of cooking a hot dog in a vending situation. Many of the posters seemed only to address it from a consumer standpoint - of how they personally liked their hot dogs cooked. That was not the question at all.
                                                           
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                                                            mattcrunk

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                                                            RE: Best way to cook a hot dog? Wed, 06/6/07 12:37 AM (permalink)
                                                            quote:
                                                            Originally posted by doggydaddy


                                                            It isn't how any of us like our dogs cooked, but how can you do yours differently and uniquely from the other places. What are you going to do that will bring them in? Frankly, I cannot understand why anyone would go to a hotdog place.

                                                            You want to keep some of your ideas and concepts to yourself. The truth is that your secret will be safe here as we are already doing it.

                                                            mark



                                                            The way I serve up my dogs will not be anything radically different or unique. It's my whole concept, image and atmosphere that will seperate me from the competition. That part I will keep under wraps at least until everything is worked out and my trademarks are secured. But then again, I've never asked a question regarding that aspect of the business, so why should it be of anyone's concern? I know design and marketing, and don't need help there. In fact it's in those areas that I'm willing to offer advice when I can.
                                                             
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