Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY)

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Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY)

Friday July 8th, 2011 - I made my way to Rome, NY to meet my family, spend some quality time with them over the weekend and run the 34th Annual Boilermaker 15K Road Race in nearby Utica, NY.  My mom's husband picked me up at the train station and we headed for my childhood home.  It was great to see my mom and just relax for a few days.  We headed out to local favorite, Nicky Doodles, for dinner.  They have tables inside but on a warm summer's night it's great to sit at the umbrella tables outsider and people watch.  Sitting at the next table over was my elementary school principal and his wife and we had a really nice talk for a bit.

In addition to serving Hofmann hot dogs, bbq and hot ham sandwiches they also offer an homage to that Rochester, NY classic, the Garbage Plate with their Doodle Dumpster plate.  

I started with the Nicky Doodle Dog (a Hofmann hot dog, mustard, onions and spicy Doodle sauce).  I really liked this.  The Hofmann dog had a great snap to it and the flavor was really assertive as I have come to expect.  The buttered and toasted bun split-top bun held up nicely to the slow burning, cinnamon scented meat sauce.  This had a somewhat pebbly texture closer to what I guess a loosemeat is rather than a wet sauce.  I did wish there was a sweetness to it to balance out the boldness of it but I'd get it again in a heartbeat.

Next up was a Hot Ham BBQ sandwich.  One of my most favorite things to eat when in Central NY.  They butter and toast the roll for this sandwich as well.  The hot ham is a spicy ham a that also is warmed up on the flat-top and then drizzled with their red BBQ sauce.  I do like this sauce but the gold version labeled PORK in the pic below is the real winner for me.  It is at turns spicy, smoky, sweet and addictive.

 

Mayo/mustard potato salad that was very good.  Not as god as Grandma's or my sister's, but very good nonetheless.  Before I tucked into this I took about three pictures, trying to capture it perfectly to which my mother let out a sigh and said, "Oh Bill, it's just POTATO SALAD!"  I think she was concerned that people at the other tables would stare and whisper in hushed tones about her crazy, shutterbug son who lives in the big city!

The Doodle is also know for their hard pack and soft serve ice cream.  I was about three second away from ordering a cone of hard ice cream when I spotted a sign for a sundae with a shot of pure New York State maple syrup poured on top.  This creamy concoction below is the V.V.S. F.F.A. (Vernon Verona-Sherrill Future Farmers of America) sundae.  From what I have read and have been told, this local chapter of the FFA had gained quite a bit of recognition for their maple syrup production.  If this sundae is any indication, the accolades are well deserved.  I spoonful of ice cream whipped cream mixed with that syrup was the pure essence of what I love about growing up in Central NY.  The crushed honey roasted peanuts on top just put this over the edge for me!
An article from the Syracuse.com website about the local FFA chapter:  http://blog.syracuse.com/.rms/2011/01/post_37.html

 
Saturday July 9th, 2011 - I headed out early in the morning for a quick 4 mile run to keep my legs fresh, rested for a bit and then made my way to the Boilermaker Expo in Utica to meet my friends Doug & Marisa and to pick up our race packets and runner's bibs.  The local community really does come out in force for this event all weekend long and the pride that they show for this race is nothing short of amazing!  
 
Every time I see this clock I think, "Wow, I'm really going to be running this in less than a day!"


We had discussed lunch plans the day before but hadn't really come up with where to eat.  On my way top the Expo, I snagged a parking spot in front of my most favorite tomato pie connection, Roma Sausage & Deli on Bleecker Street in East Utica.  I thought maybe we coukd come back here for a pie after the Ecpo but a nightmarish flashback of getting "pie blocked" last year caused me to walk in at 1:15pm.  I spied a lone box of pie on the back counter and asked the man when they closed.  He said 3:00pm and that pie might be the last one for the day.  So what if I have to lug it around for a few hours?  The pie hadn't even made it past the register before I made short work of two slices and was in crusty, tomatoey, cheesy bliss.  I don't think it's possible for me to ever tire of this.

You how when a campfire goes out and there is that one last ember that is just faintly glowing, fading ever so slowly?  This pie was so fresh that it had that slight warm glow radiating from it.  The edges were crispy/crusty, that tomato sauce was so sweet and the pecorino/parmesan was just salt and nutty enough to balance it all out.  I met up with Marisa & Doug about 10 minutes later and we all made short work of this pie.  We did walk around the Expo with it for a bit and were made offers by various people for a slice.  One man even offered $10 for a slice but was told that the price went up to $20 a slice when he suggested I get rid of my Red Sox cap!

It's official!  I'm ready to do this thing!

The grounds of the Boilermaker Expo.  There were a number of tents set up with sponsors selling their wares, other races promoting their events and food vendors.  We picked our goodie bags with our complimentary Boilermaker pint glasses, lotions, Larabars, sunscreen, race program and other swag.

Of course I had to get in line to try this.  I don't usually go in for cotton candy but this was a game changer.  Really bold maple flavor.  The people giving out samples were also selling maple candies, butter, fudge, etc...

Being that the F.X. Matt Brewery is a major sponsor of the race, they had a tent set up promoting their line of beers.  Those Saranacs and their root beer go down quite smoothly!

 

Cabot Creamery had a table as well so I snagged a couple of snack size cheeses and played around for a bit. Running is definitely hard work and it helps to bring a playful attitude and sense of humor and fun to it!

I saw this guy walking around the Expo and had to find out more about this shirt. If you can eat a 3lb serving of the local specialty, Chicken Riggies, at Cafe Bella Mia in North Utica in one sitting (no time limit) you win this shirt.  Maybe I could have back in the day but not now!

 
More to come...!!
 
 
 
 
 
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    Nancypalooza
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/01 14:29:59 (permalink)
    Why am I thinking about Ross on 'Friends' all spazzed up on maple candy?   :)
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/01 14:44:07 (permalink)
    billyboy-
    Can't wait to see the photos of you breakdancing!  I'm still not sure if the idea of maple cotton candy is appealing or not.  Looking forward to more.....
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/01 16:06:12 (permalink)
    Wow, maple cotton candy sounds like a winner.
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/01 16:49:51 (permalink)
    I am SO not a cotton candy fan, but that maple version sounds interesting!
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/01 17:05:32 (permalink)
    Yeah, on the Ham sandwich!
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/01 20:37:56 (permalink)
    good looking tiny hot dog & tomato pie.
    but please, NO pictures of you in your running clothes. I don't want that image in my head.
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/01 21:10:11 (permalink)
    Maple syrup on ice cream?  WOW!  Is it thicker than the syrup that pours right from the bottle?
     
    I'd also go for that maple favored cotton candy.
     
    I just learned (unfortunately) that I love maple bars.
     
    This may prove to be interesting!
     
    I always love your reports and look forward to reading more!
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/01 21:40:48 (permalink)
    Great report.  Thankfully, I just returned from a week in central New York.  Otherwise, I would be so envious.  I did have something that you did not.........chicken riggies!
    post edited by Greymo - 2011/08/01 21:42:03
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/01 23:55:21 (permalink)
    Nancy, I just watched that on YouTube.  Hysterical!  I love anything maple and CNY has a good supply of it.
     
    BB, glad you got the title reference.  Wasn't sure if anyone would.  Sorry though, you won't see me bustin' any moves or poppin' & lockin' in this report except maybe on some half moon cookies and some awesome pie!!
     
    skbob, you may have to look away as I do have a few pre & post race running pics to post.  I put my text above my photos so you can have a heads up before you scroll down.  If you think images of me in running clothes are tough, my friends told me they saw a guy running in a skin tight green bodysuit that left NOTHING to the imagination!
     
    mar52, nope.  Actually I think most maple syrup is somewhat thin and can be watery too.  The flavor, however, is amazingly powerful in a good way!  What's a maple bar?  Like maple fudge?  I feel like I should know this.
     
    Greymo, riggies were on my list as were hats with broccoli, Utica Greens, pusties, mushroom stew as well as more bbq sandwiches and some more pie (I had some in the upcoming segment) but quality time with family and friends comes first.  I have a few more trips to CNY planned for this year so hopefully I can squeeze in some more RFing!  Where did you eat riggies?  What kind did you get?  What did you think?
     
     
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/02 00:42:50 (permalink)
    A maple bar as far as I know is a rectangle fried doughnut with maple frosting.  That's what I ate and loved.
     
    It may have a proper name that I don't know.
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/02 03:34:04 (permalink)
    I used to do the electric boogaloo, thank you very much. By the way, I will take one of everything, please!
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/03 16:20:28 (permalink)
    Saturday July 9th, 2011 cont' - After the Expo, we made our way back to Rome for a pre-race pasta carb loading dinner with our running and non-running friends at the home of our friend Betsy and her family.  On the way there, I popped into Holland Farms Bakery & Deli in Yorkville, NY.  I was on beverage detail for the dinner but how could I resist bringing some dessert too?  

    I thought about getting a slice of pie to sample before the drive but turns out they only sell whole pies.  In this case I'm referring to dessert pies though they do sell tomato pie as well.  Fear not BB, tomorrow is another day and I did make it back!

    What treats await inside of this box...?

    Why a dozen half moon cookies, of course!  Six yellow cake/cookie variety and six chocolate chocolate brownie/cookie variety.  Holland Farms makes great half moons and they are always a hit at any gathering where they were present.  The rigatoni and secret family homemade sauce were both amazing as were the salad and fresh bread.  Doug and Marisa brought their own homemade whoopie pies for dessert as well and they went over big!

    A shot of the gang after dinner.  Kim's husband Mark, Billy, Doug, Carol (one of our professors from college), Betsy and Kim.  I hadn't seen Mark and Kim in years and it was really great to spend some time with them.

    Doug before the race.

    Billy before the race.  We woke up around 4:30am, stretched and took off for Utica.  We scored a sweet parking spot two blocks from the post race party so we wouldn't have too far to go once we were ready to leave.  On the shuttle bus to the start line someone asked how many first timers were running and a number of hands shot up.  One man said he was a 32nd timer!  Such a grand tradition!

    Once again, no shots from the actual race but we met up with friends at the party behind the F.X Matt Brewery.  Doug, Betsy, our friend Dan, our friend Shawn and Billy.  What a great day for a run.  Temps were in the high 80s but not humid like it had been last year.  I ran past my cousins handing out ice chips about halfway through the race, ran past my family standing on the campus of my alma mater, Utica College, and my niece holding up homemade signs cheering me on.  Another mile on I made it past Doug's family high fiving me and then past a couple of ladies with pump actions super-soaker water guns who let me have it!  So refreshing!  The sheer volume of excited spectators, live bands and the positive energy along the route made for a wonderful run and I definitely felt much stronger than last year, the end result being that I was able to shave off more than 15:30 minutes from my 2010 overall time.  A very good day.

    The computer is running slow so I'll post this before I get booted.  Still more to come...bbq sandwiches, pie and carrot cake half moons!
     
    post edited by billyboy - 2011/08/03 16:22:54
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/04 03:42:53 (permalink)
    After a while all of the runners began to trickle out of the party area.  Doug asked what my plans were as he and his family were heading to Voss' BAR-B-Q in Yorkville, NY for lunch.  Well, he didn't have to ask ME twice!!

    The sign for the menu has been updated since last my trip here in Sept. 2010 and the prices have gone up a little bit, maybe 10 to 15 cents per sandwich.

    Doug and Marisa with their family enjoying their burgers, dogs and bar-b-q sandwiches.

    A great idea!

    Love this sign and love these hot dogs!

    This trip to Voss' was brought to you by the letter "F".  Each customer is given one of these magnetic refrigerator letters which is called out through the window when their order is ready.  My apologies for the blurry pic.  The best of four that I took.

    I started out with one of my favorites, a Mexi Dog (with chili, cheese and onions).  For me, there is a real harmony and sense of balance to this.  The split-top bun is buttered and griddled which adds flavor and a nice crispness but also serves to shore up the bun under the weight and moisture of wet toppings.  The dog is griddled until darkly browned and has a nice snap to it.  I love the flavor of these dogs but I regret that I do not know the composition (all beef, pork, etc...).  The onions are minced so as to not have a crunch that gets in the way but has a presence and their juice does seep a bit into the mix, distributing a nice flavor to the rest of the dog.  I am guessing that the cheese is American and is diced into tiny cubes that melt a wee bit and provide a subtle creaminess that offsets the spicy chili.  
    And finally, the chili!  Yes, this really is the yardstick for me when it comes to chilis/meat sauces for hot dogs.  I really wish I would take notes when I eat this because right now I can't for the life of me pinpoint the aromas and flavors that are in this, but I crave it whenever I go home.  I would say ground beef, crushed red pepper flakes and a mixture of spices and other ingredients where no one flavor seems to dominate but haunts me all the same.  Does that make any sense or am I just crazy?  

    The crinkle-cut fries here are not fresh cut but tasty, crispy and soft inside and are most definitely elevated when dragged through their bar-b-q sauce or chili.

    Beef bar-b-q sandwich with extra sauce.

    Pork bar-b-q sandwich with extra sauce.  In the almost 20 years I have been coming here I am not sure if I had ever tried either one of these, so hooked on the turkey and ham was I.  Part of that was having grown up on hot ham and hot ham bbq sandwiches and being unable or unwilling to deviate from that taste of my childhood.  Taking the plunge was so worth it.  Very moist and flavorful and of curse that extra sauce had a slow, soft burn that made my lips tingle ever so slightly and it dissipated before I got back into my car.  The turkey and ham are still my favorites and probably always shall be, but these two are most definitely worthy of many repeat tastings.

    Doug & Marisa had to drive back to the city on this day but were both pretty tired so I offered that they come back to my mom's house to take a nap before getting on the road.  We said our goodbyes to their family but before heading to Rome we stopped at Holland Farms Bakery & Deli (again, for me!).  Mom and sis were putting together a post race backyard barbecue so I thought I'd pick up dessert.

    Chocolate Cream Pie!  Cliff, I didn't let you down, man!  With a very light, chocolatey filling, barely sweet whipped cream toping and a flaky, slightly buttery crust this was definitely a winner.  They did offer coconut cream, banana cream, blueberry and a list of other appealing pies but I this one on the brain.

    I will not reveal here how many slices of this I consumed nor the number of hours it took me to do so out of sheer embarrassment!  I will say that the whole time period played out somewhat like that "Twilight Zone" episode where the man went to a casino with his wife and kept hearing the slot machine calling his name and beckoning him and I'll leave it at that!

    Doug & Marisa picked up some half moons as a thank you gift to Mom & Harold for putting them up for the night.  

    A half dozen of my personal favorite, Chocolate half moons.  Love that brownie like texture and that light whipped frosting.

    And a new one to me...

    Carrot Cake half moons.  No raisins in this one and I didn't really get any carrot texture of flavor but it was delicious nonetheless, especially the cream cheese frosting.

        Monday July 11th, 2011 - Mom had to work today so my friend Norma offered to drop me at the train station.  I had planned to hit a couple of Roadfood places for Chicken Riggies and some Utica Greens but I was pretty tired from the race so I slept in.  As it turned out, my train was delayed by almost an hour so we popped over to PaPa Rick's Snack Shack in Rome, NY to pick up a few items to tuck into at the train station.  This place is run by a former fireman and his dad, a retired fireman works the window sometimes as well.  I had seen this place back in 2008 and was intrigued by their Fully Involved Fish Fry, Firehouse Chili and Infernos (I think it's like a DQ Blizzard) and vowed to return.

        They have plenty of picnic table seating and also offer live entertainment with a tent behind the building.  

        We had though about coming here for dinner on Friday but chose Nicky Doodles instead as there was a band playing here and we had forgotten to bring portable chairs with us.  Maybe next time!

        They do offer that Binghamton, NY specialty, speidies as a special but I am really eyeballing that Scalloped Potatoes & Ham special!!

        As you can see in the next few shots, the firefighter theme runs through this place.

     

     

        I've always loved this sign and often reminds me of the Superdawg mascots in Chicago.

        My Ham BBQ sandwich.  This was really good and reminded me of the ones I used to eat at the long gone Pie Stand in Rome.  All it would need is some relish mixed in with the bbq sauce.  I've seen this floral type cut on ham before but can't remember where.  The ham had some spice to it, the sauce was sweet and slightly spicy and the roll was very fresh and I like that they toasted it.  They sure didn't skimp on the amount of ham.  

        Homemade baked beans with bacon.  Loved the soft yet not mushy texture of these and the bacon added and nice porky component.  My only complaint would be that they were a bit too sweet for my taste.  To much brown sugar perhaps.  Didn't stop me from polishing them off though.

        A cup of their Firehouse Chili.  I wanted to like this, I really did but I am so very picky about my chili.  I think this was perfectly executed but just not the kind that I like.  The predominant flavor was tomato and I was was hoping for something with a kick that had a bold flavor of chiles in it.

        Not exactly Wall Drug but on a hot day nothing refreshes quite like a cup of ice water!

        I believe this is an idea whose time has come!  Unfortunately I had to pass on dessert on this day.

        I couldn't agree more!

        I was perusing the Boilermaker website and when I saw this t-shirt I just had to have it.  While I wasn't born and bred in Utica, NY I do consider myself an honorary Utican have attended college there, worked in some of it roughest neighborhoods after college and have since reconnected to it through Roadfooding and the Boilermaker Race.

        Three of these are food (and drink) related and every one of them made me laugh.  If you're not sure what they mean, just let me know.  

        I had such a wonderful weekend spending quality time with my family and friends and being able to participate in something that is so special to me and to the community at large. I hope to make this an annual tradition for many years to come.  Hopefully next year I'll make some more time to suss out places to get great Utica style greens, Chicken Riggies and maybe even a hot ham bbq sandwich and tomato pie smackdown.  
     
    Til then...
    "Eating is an adventure, enjoy the ride!" - billyboy, 2011
    post edited by billyboy - 2011/08/04 04:16:32
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/04 07:50:57 (permalink)
    Hey,great report....That hot dog looked like I'd want two!!!!!!
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/04 08:34:52 (permalink)
    Wonderful report Billyboy!
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/04 09:29:53 (permalink)
    I would like some more information about the attractive plates underneath the pie slice and cookies above.  I believe that is Huckleberry Hound?  Are these available wherever fine china and linens are sold?  ;)
     
    I think I know exactly what you're talking about with the spice profile in hot dog chili--you mentioned a cinnamonny one earlier in the report?  Those are the ones I tend not to like, which is why Cincinnati style chili is usually a bust on me.  I wonder if you're looking for chile taste if you'd like the stuff they serve out West.  Which I've never had either.
     
    Always enjoy the hell out of your reports Billy!  ;)
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/04 15:56:47 (permalink)
    I was going to comment on the plates as well. No worries, I ate with 101 dalmations last night.
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/04 16:17:13 (permalink)
    Billyboy............you asked where I ate chicken riggies.  I had them at the Carnegie  at the the Maple  Wood Inn in North  Syracuse.  It was filled with hot  peppers and chicken.  I would have like more Italian seasoning.  Itwas not my favorite pasta dish but glad that I have had it once to see what it was like.
     
    I would make it at home but have it more seasoned with less hot peppers.
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/05 14:51:16 (permalink)
    The first time my girlfriend and I stopped at Nicky Doodles in Rome, we walked up to the ice cream counter, not realizing that the hot food was at another counter.  Purchased a 32 ounce strawberry shake that was out of this world.  I don't drive through Rome very often but when I do, I usually get another strawberry shake.  Now that Nicky Doodles has a Utica location, I'll have to stop by and try their hot dogs and the Doodle Dumpster.  It's nice to see garbage plates making their way in this direction, with Rochester being quite a drive.  I've been to places that somehow mess up cooking Hoffman hot dogs, but the one in the picture looks pretty darn good.
     
    We LOVE Voss.  We usually go for an all-the-way dog and two mexi-burgers, with one of us ordering the dog and the other ordering the burgers.  The dogs usually come out faster, so we scarf down that sloppy, fun-to-eat dog and our burgers are ready a short time later.  The mexi-burger is so yummy, I have to pick up every piece of topping that falls off.  A nice thick shake sends us further into foodie heaven.  Mmmm.  We haven't figured out everything that's in their chili, but there seems to be a strong garlic flavor to it.
     
    For riggies, Teddy's in Rome is supposed to be good, winning Riggiefest so many times they had to step aside and let other restaurants have a chance.  Like other pasta dishes, lots of restaurants make them, each restaurant seems to make them differently, and people have different opinions as to what makes for the best riggies.  The worst "riggies" I ever had were more like pasta drowned in soup(!), so I'm reluctant to order riggies unless I see them on someone else's plate.  Teddy's shrimp riggies were pretty good, but my parents didn't care for them.  Not sure if they were tasting them for what they were, or doing an apples-to-oranges comparison.  My favorite at Teddy's is their corned beef reuben...it's one of the best in the area.
     
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/10 14:56:17 (permalink)
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    Fine job on that pie, you absolutely did not let me down!  That chocolate cream pie is a beaut!   Believe it or not, we will be driving right through the area this weekend.  Does Holland Farms definitely sell pies by the slice or only whole pies?  We are hoping that August is for pies, too.
     
    Thanks for another excellent report!
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/11 01:10:11 (permalink)
    @Lee, which hot dog?  The Nicky Doodle or Voss'?
     
    @Nancy, unlike the Bradford Exchange, those plates are veddy, veddy exclusive (said in a Thurston Howell the III voice)!  Thanks so much!  The feeling is mutual.
     
    @Wintem01, classic!  Love those dogs, had one named Fred when I was 10 but I wouldn't want to share a meal with that many!  ;)
     
    @Greymo, haven't heard of it but may have to check it out next time I'm up there.
     
    @jedi nitemare, Welcome to Roadfood (posting on the forums)!!  Love the screen name!  I think the Doodle has locations in New Hartford and Verona as well.  The Doodle Dumpster plate has been on my radar for a few years now.  I have tried the original Garbage Plate (not at Tahou's restaurant location but at a stand they had at the Lilac Festival in Rochester in the 90s).  Awesome stuff and I'm still haunted by it.  There is also another place in Rome called JR Mother's that serves a garbage plate and something called Illegal Broccoli that has piqued my interest.  The Doodle does right by the Hofmann's dog.
         I had read a Joe Kelly article in the Utica O-D years ago about Voss' and by the time I reached the last sentence I was ready to eat the paper!  I went there that same day and have been hooked ever since!  Love those Mexi-burgers.  I need to take notes next time I am eating that chili.  Don't think I've ever had a shake there.  Next on my list...
         Love Teddy's and love their riggies.  Frankie's in Old Forge makes a nice, light version that also incorporates white wine.  Very spicy if you get the hot peppers!  Like tomato pie, riggies have their fans and those who don't get/like them at all.  I like riggies a lot but I usually have to be in the right mood for them which is usually in the colder months as it is a fairly heavy, rib-sticking dish.  I find I enjoy them even more as a late night snack or reheated for lunch the next day.  I hear you on the "drowned in soup" versions.  I had one where the sauce had "broken" and the oil had sepated from the cream making the sauce unnaturally chunky. 

    @BB, thanks, man!  That really was an awesome pie and truth be told I had 4 slices of it in less than 24 hours.  There was a twinge of guilt but the feeling soon passed with each bite!  And believe it or not I had some even more awesome pies last weekend from an orchard/farm just a few miles from the RF reviewed West Taghkanic Diner in Ancram, NY.  I'm talkin' apple-raspberry and bursting fresh peach pie, both with a flaky butter-rich crusts!  Not my debut with their pies either and they have blown me away every time! 
         Are you just passing through or staying for a spell?  Which cities/towns?  Are you taking the Thruway or back roads?  I think the pie is sold whole only and they run about $8.00.  If you get a chance, try their jelly buns and their chocolate half moon cookies and they sometimes have slice of tomato pie for sale though if it's your first time trying it fresh out of the oven and cooled off for about 30 minutes is best as opposed to from the refrigerated case which is how some places sell the slices.  Though it might be good just to try one slice to see if you like it before committing to a whole pie.  Also, Voss' Bar-B-Q is just a few blocks away on the opposite side of the street.  That BBQ sauce and chili had me at hello!  I've never been but Cecif had gone to the Patio Drive-In and really loved their chili dogs, macaroni salad and they also have homemade pie by the slice.  I'd call ahead on Holland Farms and the Patio as Cecif had been TTMed by Holland and I by the Patio last Labor Day weekend.  Here is Cecif's report if it helps:  http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/tm.aspx?m=488634&high=utica  Voss' is usually open from 11am to 9pm and they are pretty consistent about it.  However, they don't have a phone.  If you need any more recs or have any questions for me, just shoot me a PM.  Happy Travels and Happy Eating!!
    post edited by billyboy - 2011/08/12 00:21:48
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/11 08:58:06 (permalink)
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    Four slices of the pie in less than 24 hours?  I think I just shed a little tear of happiness and pride!
     
    We will be driving through on the way to the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown.  There really won't be time for anymore than one or two stops in the area and Voss' has been on my list for years.
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/11 10:47:41 (permalink)
    BB, I thought you might be proud to hear that!  You've taught me well.  Ah, love the Hall of Fame.  Haven't been there in a long time.  Used to go there every year for about 15 years.  Patio, Holland Farms and Voss' are within a 1.8 mile stretch on Oriskany St./Oriskany Blvd (Oalso known as Rte. 5A). 
     
     
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/11 10:51:10 (permalink)
    billyboy 
    Patio, Holland Farms and Voss' are within a 1.8 mile stretch on Oriskany St./Oriskany Blvd (Oalso known as Rte. 5A). 

    Sold! 

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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/11 11:01:26 (permalink)
    Hey BB, thought you might want to know that Brooks' House of Bar-B-Q in Oneonta, NY is about 25 miles south of Cooperstown on Rte. 28 and they are know for their bar-b-q chicken dinners.  It's similar to the Cornell style bar-b-q. 
    I reviewed it in 2008:  http://roadfood.com/Restaurant/Review/6053-6195/brooks-house-of-barbq
    I also had the Cooperstown Diner on my to do list but have never made it there.  The huge burgers and the idea of a peanut butter milkshake really call out to me!
    http://www.cooperstowndiner.com/
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/11 11:07:26 (permalink)
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    Brooks House of Bar-B-Q has already been pegged for dinner on Saturday night.  Very much looking forward to it!  And I may have to call Cooperstown Diner to see if they have homemade pie.  Thanks again for the suggestions.
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/11 21:18:38 (permalink)
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    Wow - A run like that and all that wonderful food.  It looked liked a great trip with family and friends and food.
     
    The carrot cake half moons looked yummmy I love carrot cake.
     
    Thanks for sharing your adventure
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/12 13:58:15 (permalink)
    The 411
     
    1.)  Nicky Doodles
          1159 Erie Blvd. West
          Rome, NY 13440
          Ph# 315-339-5395
          Website:  www.nickydoodles.com
     
    2.)  Roma Sausage & Deli
          2029 Bleecker Street
          Utica, NY 13501
          Ph# 315-792-1445
          No website
     
    3.)  Boilermaker 15K Road Race
          Utica, NY
          www.boilermaker.com
     
    4.)  Holland Farms Bakery & Deli
          50 Oriskany Blvd.
          Yorkville, NY 13495
          Ph # 315-736-6044
          Website:  www.hollandfarms.com
     
    5.)  Voss BAR B-Q
          Oriskany Blvd. (Rte. 5A)
          Yorkville, NY 13495
          No phone/No website
     
    6.)  PaPa Rick's Snack Shack
          2005 North James Street
          Rome, NY 13440
          Ph # 315-339-2622
          Website:  www.paparickssnackshack.com
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    Re:Boilermaker 2 - Electric Boogaloo (Utica, NY) 2011/08/24 21:35:48 (permalink)
    Thank you, thank you, thank you! I go to Utica a couple times a year and just don't have a local's view of the food. As a result my experiences have been less than stallar. That hot ham looks wonderful!
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