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Foodbme

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Bone-In Pork Briskets Thu, 09/23/10 3:44 PM (permalink)
Cruising the Wal-Mart Meat section the other day, I saw a cut of meat I've never heard of or seen before. Bone-In Pork Briskets. It was Cryovaced and it's size looked like it was somewhere between a Baby Back and a regular Spare Rib. Has anyone ever seen or cooked some of these or know where the cut comes from on the Hog?
 
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    chewingthefat

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    Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Thu, 09/23/10 5:20 PM (permalink)
    Basically it's a boned out picnic ham. darn good eating!
     
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      Foodbme

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      Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Thu, 09/23/10 5:37 PM (permalink)
      chewingthefat


      Basically it's a boned out picnic ham. darn good eating!

       
      No it's not. I know picnic hams. I owned and operated a smoked meat retail and wholesale business for several years. The company was called "Pitts Homemade, Country Smoked Meats" We did quality Smoked Hams, Bacon and Sausage. Our slogan was, "If it's the Pitts, It's the Best!".
      This product is flat like a rack of ribs and has rib-like bones in it. If it wasn't labeled like it was, you would mistake it for a rack of large Baby Backs.



      <message edited by Foodbme on Thu, 09/23/10 5:39 PM>
       
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        chewingthefat

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        Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Thu, 09/23/10 5:43 PM (permalink)
        Foodbme


        chewingthefat


        Basically it's a boned out picnic ham. darn good eating!


        No it's not. I know picnic hams. I owned and operated a smoked meat retail and wholesale business for several years. The company was called "Pitts Homemade, Country Smoked Meats" We did quality Smoked Hams, Bacon and Sausage. Our slogan was, "If it's the Pitts, It's the Best!".
        This product is flat like a rack of ribs and has rib-like bones in it. If it wasn't labeled like it was, you would mistake it for a rack of large Baby Backs.


        In that case, you should know what it is.
         
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          Foodbme

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          Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Thu, 09/23/10 6:02 PM (permalink)
          chewingthefat


          Foodbme


          chewingthefat


          Basically it's a boned out picnic ham. darn good eating!


          No it's not. I know picnic hams. I owned and operated a smoked meat retail and wholesale business for several years. The company was called "Pitts Homemade, Country Smoked Meats" We did quality Smoked Hams, Bacon and Sausage. Our slogan was, "If it's the Pitts, It's the Best!".
          This product is flat like a rack of ribs and has rib-like bones in it. If it wasn't labeled like it was, you would mistake it for a rack of large Baby Backs.


          In that case, you should know what it is.


          We didn't butcher, we just processed and had no dealings with rib products. If I knew what it was, I wouldn't be asking. Some of us are willing to admit we don't know everything!
           
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            chewingthefat

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            Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Thu, 09/23/10 6:09 PM (permalink)
            Foodbme


            chewingthefat


            Foodbme


            chewingthefat


            Basically it's a boned out picnic ham. darn good eating!


            No it's not. I know picnic hams. I owned and operated a smoked meat retail and wholesale business for several years. The company was called "Pitts Homemade, Country Smoked Meats" We did quality Smoked Hams, Bacon and Sausage. Our slogan was, "If it's the Pitts, It's the Best!".
            This product is flat like a rack of ribs and has rib-like bones in it. If it wasn't labeled like it was, you would mistake it for a rack of large Baby Backs.


            In that case, you should know what it is.


            We didn't butcher, we just processed and had no dealings with rib products. If I knew what it was, I wouldn't be asking. Some of us are willing to admit we don't know everything!


            Then in that case you don't know what it is, but you know what it isn't. LOL!
             
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              hatteras04

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              Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Thu, 09/23/10 10:12 PM (permalink)
              According to this site, chewingthefat is right.
               
              http://www.seriouseats.co...cuts-pork-brisket.html
               
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                Foodbme

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                Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Fri, 09/24/10 3:35 AM (permalink)
                hatteras04


                According to this site, chewingthefat is right.

                http://www.seriouseats.co...cuts-pork-brisket.html

                 
                The product that Wal-Mart is labeling as Bone-In Pork Brisket in no way resembles what is shown in these illustrations. Could it be that Wal-Mart would mislead the public? Naaah! My apologies to Chewing the Fat. If I knew how to post pictures on here, I'd go to Wal-Mart, take a picture and post it so youze wouldn't think I was out of my Mind. No wonder I didn't recognize what it was.
                EDIT: Based upon further review, See my comments and references below. The NAMP, North American Meat Processors Assn is a group that sets standards for different cuts of meat and labeling. They classify the cut as something other than what is shown in the above website. the cut shown above does not resemble the description given by the NAMP.
                <message edited by Foodbme on Fri, 09/24/10 12:49 PM>
                 
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                  Foodbme

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                  Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Fri, 09/24/10 4:06 AM (permalink)
                  Maybe I'm not crazy.
                  This from:
                  http://www.chow.com/ingredients/176
                  "Pork brisket bones, rib tips, or breaks (NAMP 416B) are small, short, tasty pieces that are the trimmings from the loin, spareribs, or baby backs."
                   
                  This is what they look like and they don't look like they come from a Picnic Shoulder.
                  http://www.21food.com/showroom/68721/product/Pork-Brisket-Bones.html
                  And another source:
                  NAMP = North American Meat Processors Assn.
                  http://www.namp.com/namp/History_of_NAMP.asp?SnID=1645439461
                  See NAMP416- St. Louis Style Ribs
                  http://books.google.com/books?id=qf2l--rO3JIC&pg=PA112&lpg=PA112&dq=NAMP+416B&source=bl&ots=ZnUb5snefr&sig=yAla2AarTSKFm4G1Vz-au27q4Ek&hl=en&ei=MlycTIm1EY6osAPOspDWAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=NAMP%20416B&f=false
                  "What's in a name? that which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet."
                  From Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, 1600
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                    Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Fri, 09/24/10 9:26 AM (permalink)
                    Foodbme


                    The product that Wal-Mart is labeling as Bone-In Pork Brisket in no way resembles what is shown in these illustrations. Could it be that Wal-Mart would mislead the public? 

                     
                    Perhaps "bone-in pork brisket" is cut differently in China...
                     
                    Brad
                     
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                      edwmax

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                      Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Fri, 09/24/10 10:38 AM (permalink)
                      The "Bone-In Pork Briskets" included the associated rib bones; Brisket & upper ribs. The picture shown by the seriouseats links included the picnic ham.   The "Bone-In Pork Brisket" would be that left after removing the picnic.
                       
                      Yea, the picture was confusing to me too, at first.
                      <message edited by edwmax on Fri, 09/24/10 12:05 PM>
                       
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                        mayor al

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                        Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Fri, 09/24/10 11:26 AM (permalink)
                        The small photo that our AZ friend posted from the 21 food.com site sure looks like what I get as a 'Trimming piece' when the butcher 'squares' a rack of ordinary Spare Ribs for me. Sometimes called the Cap or Chin Bone(s) they link the ribs together.
                        Am I close?
                        Funny I have Never hear the descriptor 'Bone-In' used with a Beef Brisket !
                         
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                          edwmax

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                          Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Fri, 09/24/10 12:11 PM (permalink)
                          al
                           
                          That's the trimmed brisket removed from the rib section.   ... The bone-in brisket is more like the Creative "lazy" Butcher at my grocery store; put a new name on it and charge more!
                           
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                            Foodbme

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                            Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Sun, 09/26/10 1:28 AM (permalink)
                            mayor al


                            The small photo that our AZ friend posted from the 21 food.com site sure looks like what I get as a 'Trimming piece' when the butcher 'squares' a rack of ordinary Spare Ribs for me. Sometimes called the Cap or Chin Bone(s) they link the ribs together.
                            Am I close?
                            Funny I have Never hear the descriptor 'Bone-In' used with a Beef Brisket !

                            That's because a Beef Brisket doesn't have any bones in it and a PORK brisket does. I asked Tom Ryan of Tom's BBQ, who owns 5 BBQ joints in the area and has been in the BBQ business since 1988 and he says thay're what he serves as Rib Tips and they come from the cut of meat you describe above. I bought some at Wal-Mart Today and will cook them Sunday. They do in fact have Short Rib Bones in them smaller than the bones in Baby Backs. I'm debating between Smoking them or doing them in a crock pot with BBQ Sauce


                             
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                              Re:Bone-In Pork Briskets Tue, 01/11/11 9:10 PM (permalink)
                              Never heard of it till now myself...
                               
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