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MikeS.

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Botulusm in canned chili Thu, 07/19/07 7:49 AM (permalink)
We as mods don't usually allow double postings but I feel this needs to be fully exposed.

Castleberry chili is being recalled after reports of 4 people gettin sick with botulism.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=3392155

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    mayor al

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    RE: Botulusm in canned chili Thu, 07/19/07 9:14 AM (permalink)

    Mike
    I am glad there is a photo of the can in the article you linked to your post. I had the image of the bottled ketchup-like substance called Chile-Sauce in mind when I first heard the story this morning. The picture of the CAN and LABEL helps !!
     
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      RE: Botulusm in canned chili Thu, 07/19/07 10:28 AM (permalink)
      Since at the end of the article they list other products (besides the hot dog chili sauce) which were also recalled, I thought it best to list them all here:

      Castleberry's Hot Dog Chili Sauce, 10 oz can (UPC 3030000101)
      Austex Hot Dog Chili Sauce, 10-ounce can (UPC 3030099533)
      Kroger Hot Dog Chili Sauce, 10-ounce can (UPC 1111083942)
      Morton House Corned Beef Hash, 15-ounce can (UPC 7526665830)
      Cattle Drive Chili With Beans, 15-ounce can (UPC 3030001515)
      Southern Home Corned Beef Hash, 15-ounce can (UPC 0788015360)
      Meijer Corned Beef Hash, 15-ounce can (UPC 4125095229)
      Castleberrys Chili With Beans, 15-ounce can (UPC 3030001015)
      Castleberrys Barbecue Pork, 10-ounce can (UPC 3030000402)
      Bunker Hill Chili No Beans, 10-ounce can (UPC 7526604112).
       
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        UncleVic

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        RE: Botulusm in canned chili Thu, 07/19/07 12:28 PM (permalink)
        Good looking out with the repost! Castleberrys is a pretty common 'cheap' sauce.. Normally my crutch when I'm too lazy to make my own sauce. (Not to mention it's super low cost @ around 50 cents a can).
         
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          CajunKing

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          RE: Botulusm in canned chili Thu, 07/19/07 4:53 PM (permalink)
          I just checked the wife had 8 cans of chili sauce all 8 with the UPC.



          That will teach her not to eat my chili!
           
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            lleechef

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            RE: Botulusm in canned chili Thu, 07/19/07 5:10 PM (permalink)
            I make my own chili (with some help from Lone Star and Bushie) and make my own corned beef hash (thanks to working in an Irish restaurant in Boston). The only thing I usually buy canned is crushed tomatoes.
             
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              jimcor

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              RE: Botulusm in canned chili Fri, 07/20/07 10:37 PM (permalink)
              Morton House was the brand of dog sauce, ground beans in beef tallow with spices, at Save-a-Lot, 3 cans for a buck. Thankfully SaL changed vendors about a year ago. Kroger wanted about .75 a can for Morton House. Save is up to 2 for a buck now.
               
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                jeepguy

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                RE: Botulusm in canned chili Sat, 07/21/07 3:35 AM (permalink)
                I have 2 cans of Castleberry's BBQ pork. 10oz. UPC is same on every can. The dates on mine differ from recalled cans. Still unsure if i should risk it. Kinda funny, i just brought these back in a suitcase from SC a week ago.
                 
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                  UncleVic

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                  RE: Botulusm in canned chili Sat, 07/21/07 6:16 AM (permalink)
                  UPC codes remain the same, for life.. It's the date you need to watch for. If yours don't fall into the recall time frame, you should be safe there.. Only thing that changes in their item numbers, is the production (lot) code, and of course, manufacture dates.

                   
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                    fabulousoyster

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                    RE: Botulusm in canned chili Sat, 07/21/07 9:55 AM (permalink)
                    Thank goodness not Bushes.
                    We like the little jarred ones.
                     
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                      RE: Botulusm in canned chili Sat, 07/21/07 10:44 AM (permalink)
                      We just used 4 cans of the hot dog chili sauce last week; thank goodness, no one got sick. We have such faith in our food sources, this shakes it up somewhat.

                      Tom
                       
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                        UncleVic

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                        RE: Botulusm in canned chili Sun, 07/22/07 10:39 AM (permalink)
                        Castleberry has expanded it's recall. Below are a few listed in the article... (This is effective as of yesterday).
                        http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6822709

                        Brand names of the recalled products include Austex, Best Yet, Big Y, Black Rock, Bloom, Bryan, Bunker Hill, Castleberry's, Cattle Drive, Firefighters, Food Club, Food Lion, Goldstar, Great Value, Kroger, Lowes, Meijer, Morton House, Paramount, Piggly Wiggly, Prudence, Southern Home, Steak N Shake, Thrifty Maid, Triple Bar and Value Time. The recall also includes four varieties of Natural Balance dog food.
                         
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                          Adjudicator

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                          RE: Botulusm in canned chili Sun, 07/22/07 10:45 AM (permalink)
                          Ha. Another Georgia recall. First peanut butter, now this? This ain't funny for us down here.
                           
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                            UncleVic

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                            RE: Botulusm in canned chili Sun, 07/22/07 11:01 AM (permalink)
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by Adjudicator

                            Ha. Another Georgia recall. First peanut butter, now this? This ain't funny for us down here.

                            Please don't screw up the peaches...
                             
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                              UncleVic

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                              RE: Botulusm in canned chili Sun, 07/22/07 11:04 AM (permalink)
                              Here's the complete list from Castleberrys website:

                              Complete List of Recalled Items
                              Brand Product Can Size UPC Barcode
                              Austex Beef Stew 15oz 30300 90815
                              Austex Chili with Beans 15oz 30300 91015
                              Austex Chili with Beans 19oz 30300 92519
                              Austex Chili no Beans 15oz 30300 97715
                              Austex Chili no Beans 19oz 30300 97719
                              Austex Onion Hot Dog Chili Sauce 10oz 30300 97101
                              Austex Hot Dog Chili Sauce 10oz 30300 99533
                              Best Yet Chili with Beans 15oz 4218740842
                              Best Yet Corned Beef Hash 15oz 4217841082
                              Big Y Chili with Beans 15oz 18894 80425
                              Big Y Chili no Beans 15oz 18894 80424
                              Big Y Corned Beef Hash 15oz 18894 80225
                              Black Rock Chili with Beans 15oz 30300 01715
                              Bloom Hot Dog Chili Sauce 10oz 25439 92448
                              Bryan Chili no Beans 10oz 53400 35264
                              Bryan Chili no Beans 15oz 53401 30200
                              Bryan Chili with Beans 15oz 53400 30205
                              Bryan Corned Beef Hash 15oz 53400 30110
                              Bryan Hot Dog Chili Sauce with Beef 10oz 53400 30010
                              Bunker Hill Chili no Beans 10oz 75266 04112
                              Bunker Hill Spicier Chili no Beans 10oz 75266 04224
                              Bunker Hill Hot Dog Chili Sauce 10oz 75266 04152
                              Castleberry's Barbecue Pork in Barbecue Sauce 10oz 30300 00402
                              Castleberry's Barbecue Pork in Barbecue Sauce 14.5oz 30300 00415
                              Castleberry's Barbecue Beef 10oz 30300 00602
                              Castleberry's Beef Stew 15oz 30300 00815
                              Castleberry's Brunswick Beef Stew Chicken & Beef 15oz 30300 00315
                              Castleberry's Chili with Beans 15oz 30300 01015
                              Castleberry's Chili no Beans 10oz 30300 07701
                              Castleberry's Chili no Beans 15oz 30300 07715
                              Castleberry's Corned Beef Hash 15oz 30300 00915
                              Castleberry's Creamed Chip Beef Gravy 10oz 30300 05150
                              Castleberry's Georgia Hash 15oz 30300 00215
                              Castleberry's Hot Chili with Beans 15oz 3030007217
                              Castleberry's Hot Dog Chili Sauce 10oz 3030007218
                              Castleberry's Onion Hot Dog Chili Sauce 10oz 30300 07101
                              Castleberry's Sausage Gravy 10oz 30300 05130
                              Cattle Drive Beef Stew 15oz 30300 01530
                              Cattle Drive Chicken Chili with Beans 15oz 30300 01525
                              Cattle Drive Chili no Beans 15oz 30300 01520
                              Cattle Drive Chili with Beans 15oz 30300 01515
                              Firefighters Chicken Chili with Beans 15oz 73725 00413
                              Firefighters Chili with Beans 15oz 73725 00411
                              Firefighters Chili no Beans 15oz 73725 00412
                              Food Club Corned Beef Hash 15oz 36800 80204
                              Food Club Chili with Beans 15oz 36800 80504
                              Food Club Chili no Beans 15oz 36800 80404
                              Food Lion Hot Dog Chili Sauce 10oz 35826 06911
                              Goldstar Original Chili 10oz 24575 00001
                              Goldstar Chili 15oz 24575 00005
                              Goldstar Tex-Mex Chili with Beans 15oz 24575 00008
                              Great Value Hot Chili with Beans 15oz 81131 79995
                              Great Value Chili with Beans 15oz 81131 79994
                              Kroger Chili with Beans 15oz 11110 83930
                              Kroger Chili no Beans 15oz 11110 83908
                              Kroger Beef Stew 15oz 11110 83928
                              Kroger Hot Dog Chili Sauce 10oz 11110 83942
                              Lowes Foods Chili with Beans 15oz 41643 01097
                              Lowes Foods Chili no Beans 15oz 41643 01092
                              Lowes Foods Corned Beef Hash 15oz 41643 01094
                              Meijer Chili with Beans 15oz 41250 95221
                              Meijer Chili no Beans 15oz 41250 95220
                              Meijer Corned Beef Hash 15oz 41250 95229
                              Meijer Hot Dog Chili Sauce 10oz 41250 85862
                              Morton House Chili With Beans Beef & Chicken 15oz 75266 65829
                              Morton House Chili With Beans Beef & Chicken 15oz 75266 65993
                              Morton House Corned Beef Hash 15oz 75266 65830
                              Paramount Chili with Beans 15oz 75266 00732
                              Paramount Chili no Beans 15oz 75266 00731
                              Paramount Hot Dog Chili Sauce 15oz 75266 00510
                              Paramount Chili Hot Dog Chili 15oz 75266 00526
                              Piggly Wiggly Chili no Beans 10oz 41290 37355
                              Piggly Wiggly Chili no Beans 15oz 41290 37354
                              Piggly Wiggly Chili with Beans 15oz 41290 37252
                              Piggly Wiggly Corned Beef Hash 15oz 41290 37357
                              Prudence Corned Beef Hash 15oz 41141 00015
                              Southern Home Chili no Beans 10oz 38259 48713
                              Southern Home Chili no Beans 15oz 07880 15340
                              Southern Home Chili with Beans 15oz 07880 15341
                              Southern Home Corned Beef Hash 15oz 07880 15359
                              Steak 'n Shake Chili with Beans 10oz 51844 00120
                              Thrifty Maid Chili with Beans 15oz 21140 21370
                              Thrifty Maid Corned Beef Hash 15oz 21140 21375
                              Thrifty Maid Hot Dog Chili Sauce 10oz 21140 21367
                              Triple Bar Chili no Beans 15oz 30300 05805
                              Triple Bar Chili with Beans 15oz 30300 05804
                              Triple Bar Chili with Beans Slow Cooked 15oz 30300 05801
                              Value Time Beef and Chicken Chili with Beans 15oz 11225 42159

                              Canned Pet Food Products

                              Brand Product Can Size UPC Barcode
                              Natural Balance Eatables for Dogs Irish Stew With Beef,
                              Potatoes & Carrots 15oz 23633 59860
                              Natural Balance Eatables for Dogs Chinese Take Out With
                              Sauce With Vegetables and Chicken 15oz 23633 59861
                              Natural Balance Eatables for Dogs HOBO Chili with
                              Chicken & Pasta 15oz 23633 59863
                              Natural Balance Eatables for Dogs Southern Style Dumplings
                              With Chicken & Vegetables 15oz 23634 59862
                               
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                                Adjudicator

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                                RE: Botulusm in canned chili Sun, 07/22/07 11:05 AM (permalink)
                                quote:
                                Originally posted by UncleVic

                                quote:
                                Originally posted by Adjudicator

                                Ha. Another Georgia recall. First peanut butter, now this? This ain't funny for us down here.

                                Please don't screw up the peaches...



                                Hey Vic!

                                Bought some peaches @ the grocery store the other day. They were good as hell. Each one had a little sticker on it that said: "Produced in Argentina"...
                                 
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                                  UncleVic

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                                  RE: Botulusm in canned chili Sun, 07/22/07 11:40 AM (permalink)
                                  Joe, sure hope you enjoy ingesting all them pesticides... ARGHHH...
                                   
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                                    Adjudicator

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                                    RE: Botulusm in canned chili Sun, 07/22/07 12:02 PM (permalink)
                                    You bet! My sixth finger is now growing quite rapidly out of the side of my left hind leg!
                                     
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                                      RE: Botulusm in canned chili Sun, 07/22/07 1:37 PM (permalink)
                                      quote:
                                      Originally posted by Adjudicator

                                      You bet! My sixth finger is now growing quite rapidly out of the side of my left hind leg!

                                      I noticed a funny glow on my skin when I got out of the shower this morning..
                                      Hmmm.........
                                      Adj, we must've got them from the same place.......
                                       
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                                        BT

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                                        RE: Botulusm in canned chili Mon, 07/23/07 1:56 AM (permalink)
                                        Just so you all know, botulinum toxin (not the spores, though) is heat labile which means anything you cook thoroughly shouldn't hurt you. I'm not suggesting ignoring the recall, but just trying to reassure everyone in case you are worried.
                                         
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                                          jeepguy

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                                          RE: Botulusm in canned chili Mon, 07/23/07 3:56 AM (permalink)
                                          I see that they make dog food too!
                                           
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                                            jimcor

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                                            RE: Botulusm in canned chili Mon, 07/23/07 2:02 PM (permalink)
                                            Will this cause another big push to irradiate all foods, or are we already doing that?
                                             
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                                              RE: Botulusm in canned chili Mon, 07/23/07 2:38 PM (permalink)
                                              Irradiate wouldn't have helped here. Problem started on the processing line (improper canning).
                                               
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                                                iqdiva

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                                                RE: Botulusm in canned chili Mon, 07/23/07 6:57 PM (permalink)
                                                Terrorism isn't the only dire threat we're dealing with...Our own food will get us !
                                                 
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                                                  Twinwillow

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                                                  RE: Botulusm in canned chili Mon, 07/23/07 7:00 PM (permalink)
                                                  I once told someone, "I wouldn't eat canned chili if my life depended on it". Well, now I guess it would.
                                                   
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                                                    BT

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                                                    RE: Botulusm in canned chili Mon, 07/23/07 7:02 PM (permalink)
                                                    quote:
                                                    Originally posted by UncleVic

                                                    Irradiate wouldn't have helped here. Problem started on the processing line (improper canning).



                                                    It might depending on when they do it. Botulism in adults is caused by botulinum toxin (the same stuff they inject as Botox in minute amounts). The problem starts when clostridium botulinum (a common bacteria present in soil) spores get canned along with the food. These spores are hard to kill and if the subsequent canning process is defective--usually not enough heat for long enough--the spores can survive, germinate and start making toxin in the can. Radiation could probably kill the spores but if the food is irradiated and the spores are introduced later (as from contaminated production equipment) it wouldn't help. I'm not sure if the cans themselves, with the food inside, could be irradiated (whether the cans would shield the food), but if that can be done it certainly should kill the spores and stop them from making toxin.
                                                     
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                                                      UncleVic

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                                                      RE: Botulusm in canned chili Mon, 07/23/07 10:13 PM (permalink)
                                                      See today that FDA is saying how serious this recall is.. The biggest in 3 decades.

                                                      A recall of canned meat products and dog food made at a Georgia plant due to botulism fears could involve tens of millions of cans that pose an urgent public health threat, U.S. officials said on Monday.

                                                      U.S. food regulators appealed to consumers and retailers to find and dispose of the cans.

                                                      Two people in Texas and two others in Indiana remain seriously ill and hospitalized with botulism poisoning associated with eating Castleberry's Hot Dog Chili Sauce, officials said.

                                                      "This is a very big recall," David Elder of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's office of regulatory affairs told reporters, deeming it an "urgent public health matter."
                                                      "These products can hurt people. And they have to be off the store shelves. And consumers have to discard any that they have at home," Elder added.
                                                      U.S. officials said an outbreak of botulism due to a commercially canned food is extremely rare and has not occurred in the United States in more than three decades.


                                                      Rest of the story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070723/hl_nm/botulism_usa_dc
                                                       
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                                                        RE: Botulusm in canned chili Thu, 07/26/07 7:50 PM (permalink)
                                                        And now it's getting even worse. The contaminated cans are starting to explode. (As a note, just touching the product can get you infected).. For those who still have a can in their cupboards are facing a bigger risk then before.
                                                        http://www.thestarpress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070726/NEWS06/70726024
                                                         
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                                                          Farfromhome

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                                                          RE: Botulusm in canned chili Thu, 07/26/07 8:51 PM (permalink)
                                                          How long after eating the chili will symptoms show if you did unfortunately get one of the cans with the toxin in it? I saw on the news on July 18th about the recall, and that it only affected the hot dog chili sauce products so on the 19th I made chili dogs using a can of Austex 19 oz chili with no beans. The next day they had expanded the recall and I checked the UPC code and sure enough, its on the recall list. Its been a week now and luckily no symptoms but how long do I need to be on the lookout for symptoms?

                                                          Whats sad is normally I never use canned chili and when I do its always Wolf brand chili but they had austex on sale and I just thought I'd try it to see if it was any good. Serves me right I guess!
                                                           
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                                                            UncleVic

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                                                            RE: Botulusm in canned chili Thu, 07/26/07 8:54 PM (permalink)
                                                            Again, UPC code will be the same on the can you bought 2 years ago, to the one compared to today. What you want to look is at the date codes of manufacture. This is where the recall is focused on.
                                                             
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