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Pat T Hat

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RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Tue, 06/20/06 4:31 PM (permalink)
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I won't disagree about country/chicken fried steak, but the Salisbury steak I grew up with (in Maryland) definitely was made with steak (not ground beef; apologies to Dr. Salisbury if necessary))--usually pounded round steak--and had a tomato-based gravy/sauce. I think my mom put things like a can of tomatoes, Worcestershire sauce, some chopped onion, green pepper and mushrooms for cooking and she would thicken it at the end with flour.


Around here this is what they call Swiss Steak but I've heard it called both, even around these parts. Mama would use stewed tomatoes and she didn't thicken it but I do with a little corn starch. She mostly used round steak as well but didn't tenderize. Just low and slow till it falls apart. She'd serve it up with buttery whipped potatoes. I like to throw cut strips of corn off the cob in at the end.

 
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    Michael Hoffman

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    RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Tue, 06/20/06 4:39 PM (permalink)
    One cannot use anything other than ground beef if one wishes to make Salisbury steak. If anything else is used in place of ground beef it is not Salisbury steak, it is something entirely different.
     
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      Greymo

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      RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Tue, 06/20/06 4:47 PM (permalink)
      Salisbury steak is ground beef shaped to resemble a steak and usually served in brown sauce.

       
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        ScreenBear

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        RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Wed, 06/21/06 12:24 AM (permalink)
        I'm always hankering for a Salisbury steak whenever I'm in Salisbury, Vermont (on Lake Dunmore). And actually, there's a little, seasonal restaurant there that has a hamburger on the menu that they euphemistically call a Salisbury steak.
        The Bear
         
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          Bob in Cary

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          RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Wed, 06/21/06 10:17 PM (permalink)
          It's on now.
           
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            Lucky Bishop

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            RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Wed, 06/21/06 11:28 PM (permalink)
            Well, I disagree strongly with that CFS gravy, which was way too chickeny for my tastes. It would be excellent with fried chicken, but CFS wants just a plain, straight sawmill gravy with a metric buttload of pepper.

            However, I'm intrigued by the Swiss steak, and I've been eyeing those meat tenderizers in catalogues.
             
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              Rosco4

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              RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Wed, 08/23/06 11:40 PM (permalink)
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              Originally posted by CarmiAdams

              Hello All! I work for a show on the Food Network called Good Eats. We are putting together a show on cube steak/country fried steak/salisbury steak. I am trying to find out if each item means a different thing in different parts of the country. Also, does anyone know what Halford sauce is? Feedback much appreciated! Thanks

              Carmi Adams
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              Be Square Productions
               
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                Rosco4

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                RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 08/24/06 12:05 AM (permalink)
                Don't know about you folks in Georgia, but growing up in California, Salisbury Steak was a totally different animal from Country Fried or Chicken Fried Steak. Out here, if you order a Chicken Fried Steak, you will generally be served a golden brown coated piece of cube steak (the kind the butcher perforates) served with WHITE gravy. Traditional accompaniments include mashed potatoes also with white gravy and a vegetable. Beware of unscrupulous restauranteurs who use commercially prepared Chicken Fried Steak patties and coat them with peppered wallpaper paste gravy. (Think Denny's) Salisbury Steak, on the other hand, at least the way I make it, is made with ground beef mixed with some chopped onion, and served with brown gravy. The same side dishes apply, but the gravy on the potatoes must match the meat. Again, be prepared for a disappointing meal if the cook uses anything that begins as a powder. Ewww!

                In my opinion, both dishes, when prepared properly, are some of the best road food you could EVER put in your mouth. Done wrong, they leave me longing for the Golden Arches....

                Tell your boss I'd be happy to send him my recipes, if he is still unclear on this. <VBG>
                quote:
                Originally posted by CarmiAdams

                Hello All! I work for a show on the Food Network called Good Eats. We are putting together a show on cube steak/country fried steak/salisbury steak. I am trying to find out if each item means a different thing in different parts of the country. Also, does anyone know what Halford sauce is? Feedback much appreciated! Thanks

                Carmi Adams
                Research Assistant
                Be Square Productions
                 
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                  laststandchili

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                  RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 08/24/06 8:22 AM (permalink)
                  quote:
                  Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

                  One cannot use anything other than ground beef if one wishes to make Salisbury steak. If anything else is used in place of ground beef it is not Salisbury steak, it is something entirely different.


                  And beans right? Real Salisbury steak has lots of beans.

                  Personally I make a mean vegetarian Salisbury steak.

                  Vayo con Queso
                   
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                    ExtraMSG

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                    RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Wed, 08/30/06 3:16 AM (permalink)
                    Scott, at http://dallasfood.org has this to say at the beginning of his best CFS countdown:
                    quote:
                    Chicken-fried steak's origins qua chicken-fried steak are somewhat murky. The first published recipe for "chicken-fried steak" appeared around 1950, though the dish turned up in Texas restaurants much earlier. Though Texans weren't the first to come up with the idea of pounding meat flat, breading/battering, and frying it, the direction we've taken the technique results in a dish that's meaningfully different from its Old World predecessors. Even the least discriminating diner can tell a chicken-fried steak from Wiener schnitzel or costoletta alla Milanese.

                    The first thing that sets the chicken-fried steak apart from similar dishes is the choice of meat. Instead of veal or pork, chicken-fried steak traditionally relies on beef (often from the round).

                    Second, chicken-fried steak is typically dredged in flour and battered (or sometimes breaded with cracker crumbs), rather than being coated with breadcrumbs (with or without a hard grated cheese).

                    Third, chicken-fried steak is usually fried, rather than lightly sautéed. Pan-frying--an entirely appropriate and, some would argue, preferable cooking method for chicken-fried steak--falls in a gray area between deep-frying and the gentle sautéing employed on some of CFS's elder cousins. But since deep-frying of CFS is far more common than pan-frying in Texas restaurants, that widens the distinction.

                    Fourth, chicken-fried steak is typically accompanied by cream gravy. Recipes for cream gravy vary, though all are basically pepped up béchamel. You won't see anything like that on a Wiener schnitzel.

                    And, fifth, chicken-fried steak shares a plate with regional side dishes that further set it apart. Mashed potatoes are almost always on board. Fried okra, black-eyed peas, green beans, Texas toast, biscuits, corn (on or off the cob), greens (e.g., mustard or collard), and summer squash (or squash casserole) also make frequent appearances. (And let's not forget grits, when CFS shows up for breakfast.)

                    The deviations from tradition may seem slight, but they accumulate. And, at its finest, the bold beef flavor, the tender texture, the crisp coating, the gravy's salty sweetness (accented with peppery bite)...it's a unique form of poetry to the palate.
                     
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                      V960

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                      RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Wed, 08/30/06 9:22 AM (permalink)
                      I'm sorry folks but do you feel the troll yet? One post, never returned...duh?
                       
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                        kland01s

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                        RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Wed, 08/30/06 9:51 AM (permalink)
                        quote:
                        Originally posted by V960

                        I'm sorry folks but do you feel the troll yet? One post, never returned...duh?


                        I too, was disappointed that the OP never returned.
                         
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                          Pwingsx

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                          RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Wed, 08/30/06 5:00 PM (permalink)
                          But they did do the show, didn't they? At least they were on the up and up with that.
                           
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                            Stepovich

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                            RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 01/10/08 12:46 PM (permalink)
                            Better later than never?
                            Regarding Halford Sauce:
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                            Halford Sauce

                            Halford Sauce is a dead product that was made in Leicester, England. The American headquarters was in Boston.

                            It was as common in many American households as ketchup now is. Recipes called for tablespoons of it here and there the way they now call for Worcestershire sauce. In fact, Halford Sauce appears to have lost the bottled sauce battle to Worcestershire Sauce.

                            Dr J.H. (James) Salisbury recommended it as an accompaniment to his Salisbury Steak.

                            History
                            "Halford Leicestershire Table Sauce. The Most Perfect Relish of the Day. An absolute Remedy for Dyspepsia. Invaluable to all Good Cooks. A Nutritious Combination for Children. Invaluable for Soups, Hashes, Cold Meats, and Entrées." (1880 advertising)
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                            #44
                              Foodbme

                              RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Mon, 08/2/10 5:44 PM (permalink)
                              Although not official, the dish is considered the state dish of Texas. According to a Texas Restaurant Associate, it is estimated that 800,000 orders of Chicken-Fried Steak are served in Texas every day, not counting any prepared at home.
                              If you figure 200,000 CFS's are made at home, that's ONE MILLION CFS's a day! Population of Texas--24,782,302 - Jul 2009. The rest are eating Tacos!
                              <message edited by Foodbme on Mon, 08/2/10 5:53 PM>
                               
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                                Davydd

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                                RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Mon, 08/2/10 7:02 PM (permalink)
                                Official dish of chicken fried steak in Texas I can believe. As for the rest eating tacos I am not so sure. At least in Houston I think donuts and Kolaches might give tacos a run.
                                 
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