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CarmiAdams

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CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 12/1/05 5:28 PM (permalink)
Hello All! I work for a show on the Food Network called Good Eats. We are putting together a show on cube steak/country fried steak/salisbury steak. I am trying to find out if each item means a different thing in different parts of the country. Also, does anyone know what Halford sauce is? Feedback much appreciated! Thanks

Carmi Adams
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    Sundancer7

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    RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 12/1/05 5:50 PM (permalink)
    Mamaw Smith who is 82 years old and lives next door has been making what she calls country fried steak for 50 years. She buys cubed steak, puts flour on it and browns it, then puts it in the oven at a temp of 225F with some onions and water and covers it and lets it cook for several hours. She uses the residual drippings for gravy and serves it with home made yeast risen rolls, real mash potatoes with some cream cheese, sour cream and lotsa butter.

    There is never anything left. This is a Sunday dinner after church thing.

    Paul E. Smith
    Knoxville, TN
     
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      RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 12/1/05 5:54 PM (permalink)
      I always bemoan that there is not a real Salisbury steak to be had in any restaurant in Salisbury, Vermont. I really do.
      The Bear
       
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        RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 12/1/05 6:10 PM (permalink)
        Country-fried steak (or as it's called in my home state of Texas, where it is one of the canonical foodstuffs, chicken-fried steak) and salisbury steak are two entirely different things, as I'm sure Alton well knows. I'm quite likely to order either or both if I see it on the menu, and in no parts of the country have I seen the terms intermingle.

        CFS: just as it says, a steak that's tenderized, coated and shallow-fried, then served with a white, peppery gravy.

        Salisbury Steak: In my experience, Salisbury steak (which is served with a brown gravy, not a white one) is much more likely to be made from ground beef than any kind of steak. That could just be because my generation learned about this dish from Swanson TV dinners and school cafeterias and we wouldn't know what to do with a steak-based Salisbury steak if we came upon one.

        In fact, when I make Salisbury steak myself these days, I just take AB's meatloaf recipe -- the only one I make anymore -- and shape it into thick patties, which I dust with flour seasoned with Penzey's Ozark Seasoning and pan fry in cast iron. Then I build a mushroom gravy in the pan with lots of mushrooms, shallots, a small hit of vermouth and some beef broth. Add some buttered, parslied noodles and a salad and that's dinner. Good eats indeed.

        If I didn't already have dinner planned, I would totally be doing that tonight...

         
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          catosaurus

          RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 12/1/05 6:43 PM (permalink)
          I googled "halford sauce" and found the following, courtesy of this link:
          http://www.senior-spectrum.com/columnists/grace_012704/index.html

          In case you haven’t heard of Halford sauce, it was “Halford Leicestershire Table Sauce,” advertised in the 1880s thusly: “The Most Perfect Relish of the Day. An absolute Remedy for Dyspepsia. Invaluable to all Good Cooks. A Nutritious Combination for Children. Invaluable for Soups, Hashes, Cold Meats, and Entrees.”

          I can't find any descriptions of what it tastes like, though.
           
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            RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 12/1/05 6:50 PM (permalink)
            Cubed, country fried and Salisbury steak are three unrelated items other than them all being beef.

            In my experience, cubed steak is lean tough steak that has been tenderized through mechanical means. I tend to like it as I had a lot of it as a kid. My method is to saute it lightly in butter and drench it with Lea & Perrins once it reaches the plate.

            Country fried (I call it chicken fried) can be any cut of steak you want as long as it is breaded and cooked in the manner of fried chicken. Recipes will vary a lot on this one.

            Salisbury steak is simply hamburger named after Dr. J.H. Salisbury who advocated shredding all foods prior to consumption to improve digestibility.

            Good luck on your project, but I think you will have a hard time lumping all three items together as they are essentially unrelated.
             
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              RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 12/1/05 7:37 PM (permalink)
              I've always thought chicken-fried steak was a cutlet of tenderized round. Any form of dredging and drenching is allowed and you can fry it either shallow or deep. It should always be served under a white peppered gravy, although one of my knucklehead friends uses catsup.
               
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                RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 12/1/05 8:12 PM (permalink)
                quote:
                Originally posted by Lucky Bishop

                Country-fried steak (or as it's called in my home state of Texas, where it is one of the canonical foodstuffs, chicken-fried steak) and salisbury steak are two entirely different things, as I'm sure Alton well knows. I'm quite likely to order either or both if I see it on the menu, and in no parts of the country have I seen the terms intermingle.

                CFS: just as it says, a steak that's tenderized, coated and shallow-fried, then served with a white, peppery gravy.

                Salisbury Steak: In my experience, Salisbury steak (which is served with a brown gravy, not a white one) is much more likely to be made from ground beef than any kind of steak. That could just be because my generation learned about this dish from Swanson TV dinners and school cafeterias and we wouldn't know what to do with a steak-based Salisbury steak if we came upon one.

                In fact, when I make Salisbury steak myself these days, I just take AB's meatloaf recipe -- the only one I make anymore -- and shape it into thick patties, which I dust with flour seasoned with Penzey's Ozark Seasoning and pan fry in cast iron. Then I build a mushroom gravy in the pan with lots of mushrooms, shallots, a small hit of vermouth and some beef broth. Add some buttered, parslied noodles and a salad and that's dinner. Good eats indeed.

                If I didn't already have dinner planned, I would totally be doing that tonight...




                I won't disagree about country/chicken fried steak, but the Salisbury steak I grew up with (in Maryland) definitely was made with steak (not ground beef; apologies to Dr. Salisbury if necessary))--usually pounded round steak--and had a tomato-based gravy/sauce. I think my mom put things like a can of tomatoes, Worcestershire sauce, some chopped onion, green pepper and mushrooms for cooking and she would thicken it at the end with flour.
                 
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                  RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 12/1/05 8:29 PM (permalink)
                  In Iowa, Cube steak is tenderized steak, usually round steak. Country-fried steak is a breaded cube steak which is dredged in flour, fried & served with a cream-based gravy. Salisbury steak is made from a ground beef mixture similar to meatloaf which is shaped into oblong patties, baked & served with beef gravy, mushrooms & onions.
                  In my experience, a restaurant's country-fried steak will ALWAYS tell you the restaurant's food philosophy. There is absolutely NO comparison between a commercially frozen CFS & the instant gravy most restaurants now serve & a hand-tenderized CFS with real cream gravy.
                  In our restaurant, I hand-trim bottom-flat steak & run the steak 5 to 6 times through my hand-cranked tenderizer (most commercial cube steaks & CFSs are only run through 3 times). I prepare a seasoned flour with 8 different seasonings & spices. The CFS is dredged in this flour, dipped in egg wash, dredged again, then deep-fried until done. I then smother the CFS with our homemade pepper cream gravy.
                   
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                    RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 12/1/05 8:36 PM (permalink)
                    quote:
                    Originally posted by BT



                    I won't disagree about country/chicken fried steak, but the Salisbury steak I grew up with (in Maryland) definitely was made with steak (not ground beef; apologies to Dr. Salisbury if necessary))--usually pounded round steak--and had a tomato-based gravy/sauce. I think my mom put things like a can of tomatoes, Worcestershire sauce, some chopped onion, green pepper and mushrooms for cooking and she would thicken it at the end with flour.


                    that sounds more like Swiss steak to me---salksbury steak is definately made with "chopped beef" and formed into patties
                     
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                      RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 12/1/05 8:44 PM (permalink)
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by Lucky Bishop

                      snip
                      br]In fact, when I make Salisbury steak myself these days, I just take AB's meatloaf recipe --
                      snip


                      AB's meatloaf recipe? Can you share that one? TIA.
                       
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                        RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Thu, 12/1/05 11:41 PM (permalink)
                        quote:
                        Originally posted by CarmiAdams

                        Hello All! I work for a show on the Food Network called Good Eats. We are putting together a show on cube steak/country fried steak/salisbury steak and I am trying to find out if these items mean different things in different parts of the country. Also, does anyone know what Halford sauce is? Feedback much appreciated! Thanks

                        Carmi Adams
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                        We just had a huge thread about this. Make sure Alton knows it has to have a white pepper gravy. I had one last week w/creamed chipped beef trying to pass itself off as the gravy. Yuck!

                        Tell AB Milwaukee loved him last January!
                         
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                          RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Fri, 12/2/05 5:55 AM (permalink)
                          I've always used the terms country fried and chickem fried interchangeably. Like several other here have said; A round steak that has been tenderized, dredged in a seasoned flour, dipped in an egg wash or not and then pan fried. As in pan frying chicken, thus chicken fried steak.

                          It is served with a pan dripping, flour and milk gravy. I like a lot of pepper in mine.

                          Salisbury stek is a whole 'nother animal.

                          MikeS.
                           
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                            RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Fri, 12/2/05 10:35 AM (permalink)
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by BT

                            quote:
                            Originally posted by Lucky Bishop

                            Country-fried steak (or as it's called in my home state of Texas, where it is one of the canonical foodstuffs, chicken-fried steak) and salisbury steak are two entirely different things, as I'm sure Alton well knows. I'm quite likely to order either or both if I see it on the menu, and in no parts of the country have I seen the terms intermingle.

                            CFS: just as it says, a steak that's tenderized, coated and shallow-fried, then served with a white, peppery gravy.

                            Salisbury Steak: In my experience, Salisbury steak (which is served with a brown gravy, not a white one) is much more likely to be made from ground beef than any kind of steak. That could just be because my generation learned about this dish from Swanson TV dinners and school cafeterias and we wouldn't know what to do with a steak-based Salisbury steak if we came upon one.

                            In fact, when I make Salisbury steak myself these days, I just take AB's meatloaf recipe -- the only one I make anymore -- and shape it into thick patties, which I dust with flour seasoned with Penzey's Ozark Seasoning and pan fry in cast iron. Then I build a mushroom gravy in the pan with lots of mushrooms, shallots, a small hit of vermouth and some beef broth. Add some buttered, parslied noodles and a salad and that's dinner. Good eats indeed.

                            If I didn't already have dinner planned, I would totally be doing that tonight...




                            I won't disagree about country/chicken fried steak, but the Salisbury steak I grew up with (in Maryland) definitely was made with steak (not ground beef; apologies to Dr. Salisbury if necessary))--usually pounded round steak--and had a tomato-based gravy/sauce. I think my mom put things like a can of tomatoes, Worcestershire sauce, some chopped onion, green pepper and mushrooms for cooking and she would thicken it at the end with flour.

                            What you've described sounds like Swiss steak, or even baked steak, but certainly not Salisbury steak, which is definitely ground or, as the Brits say, minced, beef.
                             
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                              RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Fri, 12/2/05 10:53 AM (permalink)

                              I have heard, many times, over the years that Salisbury Steak (the name) resulted from the desire of the Pro-Ally movement in the USA during the First World War to divorce America from all things German. Thus the "Hamburger Steak" became "Salisbury Steak". Sounds a bit like the "Freedom Fries" with a bit more acceptance by a country trying to get focused on the War effort.

                              Remember at the time Hamburger Steak was a 'sit-down' menu item so the product did indeed look like a mini-meatloaf type of burger-entree, smothered in gravy and mashed potato on the side. Baked-Not Grilled or Broiled and No Bun, No Drive-thru etc etc.
                               
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                                RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Fri, 12/2/05 12:42 PM (permalink)
                                quote:
                                Originally posted by tiki

                                quote:
                                Originally posted by BT



                                I won't disagree about country/chicken fried steak, but the Salisbury steak I grew up with (in Maryland) definitely was made with steak (not ground beef; apologies to Dr. Salisbury if necessary))--usually pounded round steak--and had a tomato-based gravy/sauce. I think my mom put things like a can of tomatoes, Worcestershire sauce, some chopped onion, green pepper and mushrooms for cooking and she would thicken it at the end with flour.


                                that sounds more like Swiss steak to me---salksbury steak is definately made with "chopped beef" and formed into patties



                                Hmmmm. Come to think of it, maybe you are right. I had forgotten about "Swiss" steak.
                                 
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                                  RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Fri, 12/2/05 1:42 PM (permalink)
                                  Stroud's in KC is as good at Chicken Fried Steak as they are at Chicken. Wonderful stuff, served with all the same sides.
                                  In the Plains States you will see Steak chicken fried as well as pounded Round Steak
                                  chicken fried.
                                  Consult this:
                                  http://explorekansas.org/chicken.html
                                   
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                                    RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Fri, 12/2/05 2:08 PM (permalink)
                                    Apparentlly, Halford sauce was the pre-cursor to Worcestershire sauce.
                                    I found it used often on fried meats and chops in this 1800's cookbook which can be downloaded at Project Guttenburg.
                                    The author lists it as an essential seasoning staple.

                                    Miss Parloa's New Cook Book, by Maria Parloa
                                     
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                                      kozel

                                      RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Fri, 12/2/05 3:46 PM (permalink)
                                      I always enjoy reading posts from Tony Bourdain over on eGullet. I think we all here would welcome Alton's partipitation on Roadfood. Hey Carmi, pass this invite along.
                                       
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                                        RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Fri, 12/2/05 4:02 PM (permalink)
                                        I grew up in a lower middle class family with 4 kids and was force fed Cube Steaks at least once a week for about 15 years. Always cooked the same way fried. If I ever have to eat one again I will blow some serious chunks.
                                        My mother being from a Irish family I am surprized she did not boil the stupid things, however I guess that might have tenderized them a little bit instead of being the consistency of a hockey puck.
                                        Between Cube Steaks and Tube Steaks I dont know which I hate more.
                                         
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                                          RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Fri, 12/2/05 4:38 PM (permalink)
                                          quote:
                                          Originally posted by octopus

                                          I grew up in a lower middle class family with 4 kids and was force fed Cube Steaks at least once a week for about 15 years. Always cooked the same way fried. If I ever have to eat one again I will blow some serious chunks.
                                          My mother being from a Irish family I am surprized she did not boil the stupid things, however I guess that might have tenderized them a little bit instead of being the consistency of a hockey puck.
                                          Between Cube Steaks and Tube Steaks I dont know which I hate more.

                                          Octy, that's why the best is made with steaks, not budget cuts of pounded beef.

                                          Add a bit of baking powder to the spiced flour mix-Perfection!
                                           
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                                            RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Fri, 12/2/05 6:46 PM (permalink)
                                            quote:
                                            Originally posted by morningglory

                                            quote:
                                            Originally posted by Lucky Bishop

                                            snip
                                            br]In fact, when I make Salisbury steak myself these days, I just take AB's meatloaf recipe --
                                            snip


                                            AB's meatloaf recipe? Can you share that one? TIA.


                                            This is my slightly altered version of it, which I make so often that I'm writing this down from memory:

                                            36 ounces (2.25 lbs) ground beef
                                            6 oz (by weight) dry bread crumbs
                                            1 carrot
                                            1 onion
                                            1/2 green pepper
                                            2 cloves garlic
                                            1 teaspoon dried thyme
                                            1 teaspoon chili powder
                                            1/2 teaspoon black pepper
                                            1/2 teaspoon cayenne
                                            1 1/2 teaspoons salt
                                            1 egg

                                            1. Mix bread crumbs and spices in large bowl.

                                            2. Puree carrot, onion, green pepper and garlic in food processor until very finely chopped. It's going to turn almost into a vegetable slurry. Add to bread crumbs.

                                            3. Add ground beef and egg and mix gently with hands until it's a homogenous mass.

                                            4. Spray a loaf pan with Pam or the like, then pack the meat firmly into the pan.

                                            5. THIS PART'S IMPORTANT: Invert the loaf pan onto a half-sheet pan or other baking sheet with a lip and unmold the meatloaf onto the baking sheet. Cooking the loaf in the loaf pan doesn't give the fat anywhere to render out from, and it makes the loaf greasy.

                                            6. Bake at 350 until the internal temperature reaches 155 -- because I do this with a probe thermometer, I have no idea how long that takes. Maybe an hour? I really have no idea.

                                            6a. ALSO IMPORTANT: After ten minutes of baking, brush the loaf with a mixture of the following:

                                            1/2 cup ketchup
                                            1 teaspoon honey
                                            1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
                                            1 tablespoon cumin
                                            a few drops of Tabasco

                                            7. Let rest for about ten minutes, slice and serve.

                                            VARIATIONS:

                                            Instead of the glaze, I sometimes serve the meatloaf with a creole sauce that you spoon over the slices:

                                            1 can diced tomatoes in sauce
                                            1 onion, chopped
                                            1 green pepper, chopped
                                            1/2 teaspoon sugar
                                            1/2 teaspoon black pepper
                                            1/2 teaspoon salt
                                            1/2 teaspoon marjoram

                                            Saute onion and green pepper in a little olive oil until lightly browned. Add other ingredients and cook over low heat until reduced by half.

                                            And the aforementioned Salisbury steak variation.

                                            1-3. as above

                                            4. Form mixture into 6-8 fairly thick patties. Dredge patties lightly in flour seasoned with either Penzey's Ozark blend or a mixture of salt, pepper, and just a little bit of nutmeg.

                                            5. Fry over medium heat in about a tablespoon of oil until cooked through. Move to serving platter and keep warm.

                                            6. Add 12 ounces sliced mushrooms and 1 onion, chopped, to hot pan and saute until lightly browned. Remove mushrooms and onion.

                                            7. Deglaze pan with a little vermouth if you've got it, beef stock if you don't. Still over medium heat, add about 2 tablespoons each butter and flour and whisk until smooth and lightly browned, about two minutes. Add 2 cups beef stock slowly, whisking until smooth. Boil gently one minute. Return onions and mushrooms to pan, and taste. Add salt or pepper if necessary but they probably won't be. Serve gravy over patties, with mashed potatoes or buttered noodles.
                                             
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                                              RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Fri, 12/2/05 9:37 PM (permalink)
                                              Bump!!!
                                               
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                                                RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Sat, 12/3/05 12:16 AM (permalink)
                                                quote:
                                                Originally posted by CarmiAdams

                                                We are putting together a show on cube steak/country fried steak/salisbury steak and I am trying to find out if these items mean different things in different parts of the country.
                                                I guess I could answer your original question. I am from Milwaukee (upper Midwest)

                                                Cube steak is a nice cheap cut of meat for someone on a budget. I usually make them in a frying pan w/Worcestershire sauce & mushrooms sauteed w/the meat. When that comes out, I get the pan drippings w/a piece of Italian bread, yum.

                                                Country fried steak I have never heard of til I found this message board. If you mean chicken fried steak, that is a cube steak, I think, dipped in buttermilk & then a flour/spices mixture and fried until golden brown and then smothered in a white peppery gravy. Like heaven on earth.

                                                Salisbury steak is just a hamburger who knows somebody. WE have them here, but it's a frozen On-Cor meal, and it's basically hamburger patties in a brown (beef, perhaps?) gravy. Usually served with mac & cheese or mashed potatoes.
                                                 
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                                                  RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Tue, 12/6/05 12:20 PM (permalink)
                                                  quote:
                                                  Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen


                                                  I have heard, many times, over the years that Salisbury Steak (the name) resulted from the desire of the Pro-Ally movement in the USA during the First World War to divorce America from all things German. Thus the "Hamburger Steak" became "Salisbury Steak". Sounds a bit like the "Freedom Fries" with a bit more acceptance by a country trying to get focused on the War effort.

                                                  Remember at the time Hamburger Steak was a 'sit-down' menu item so the product did indeed look like a mini-meatloaf type of burger-entree, smothered in gravy and mashed potato on the side. Baked-Not Grilled or Broiled and No Bun, No Drive-thru etc etc.


                                                  I just came across a menu for Jack Dempsey's Broadway Restaurant dated Jan.15,1945 and, along with a Hamburger (60¢) under the sandwich heading, they offer an a la carte luncheon special of "Broiled Prime Hamburger Steak" with smothered onions, string beans, and french fries (95¢). No sign of a Salisbury steak. pb
                                                   
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                                                    RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Sun, 06/18/06 3:31 PM (permalink)
                                                    Just noticed on the Food Network site that their show about Cube Steak and the origins of Chicken Fried Steak will have its initial airing on June 21.

                                                    We'll see if they learned well!

                                                     
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                                                      RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Sun, 06/18/06 3:59 PM (permalink)
                                                      quote:
                                                      Originally posted by BT

                                                      quote:
                                                      Originally posted by Lucky Bishop

                                                      Country-fried steak (or as it's called in my home state of Texas, where it is one of the canonical foodstuffs, chicken-fried steak) and salisbury steak are two entirely different things, as I'm sure Alton well knows. I'm quite likely to order either or both if I see it on the menu, and in no parts of the country have I seen the terms intermingle.

                                                      CFS: just as it says, a steak that's tenderized, coated and shallow-fried, then served with a white, peppery gravy.

                                                      Salisbury Steak: In my experience, Salisbury steak (which is served with a brown gravy, not a white one) is much more likely to be made from ground beef than any kind of steak. That could just be because my generation learned about this dish from Swanson TV dinners and school cafeterias and we wouldn't know what to do with a steak-based Salisbury steak if we came upon one.

                                                      In fact, when I make Salisbury steak myself these days, I just take AB's meatloaf recipe -- the only one I make anymore -- and shape it into thick patties, which I dust with flour seasoned with Penzey's Ozark Seasoning and pan fry in cast iron. Then I build a mushroom gravy in the pan with lots of mushrooms, shallots, a small hit of vermouth and some beef broth. Add some buttered, parslied noodles and a salad and that's dinner. Good eats indeed.

                                                      If I didn't already have dinner planned, I would totally be doing that tonight...




                                                      I won't disagree about country/chicken fried steak, but the Salisbury steak I grew up with (in Maryland) definitely was made with steak (not ground beef; apologies to Dr. Salisbury if necessary))--usually pounded round steak--and had a tomato-based gravy/sauce. I think my mom put things like a can of tomatoes, Worcestershire sauce, some chopped onion, green pepper and mushrooms for cooking and she would thicken it at the end with flour.
                                                      That sounds like what my Grandma called swiss steak. C.F.S. is is a piece of cube pounded thin then dredged and dunked and dredged again then fried to a crisp golden brown delicious. Usallaly served with a nice peppery white sausage gravy. Salisbury steak is usally ground beef patties served with brown mushroom gravy.
                                                       
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                                                        RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Sun, 06/18/06 8:38 PM (permalink)
                                                        I love Alton Brown and his show... I have made many recipes from watching him in the kitchen. I like the technical process that he explains in preparing his food.
                                                        Go, Alton, Go!
                                                        He is one of the best on FoodNetwork!
                                                        I made his meatloaf recipe one night and posted the photos here on RF..However, the photos are not here anymore, as I cleaned them out of Imageshack.

                                                        BUt I will make note on my calendar to watch that show this week!
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                                                          Williamsburger

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                                                          RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Tue, 06/20/06 2:35 PM (permalink)
                                                          I love Alton Brown and the "Good Eats" show too.
                                                          But their "cultural anthropoligist" leaves a lot to be desired.
                                                          I really don't know where she comes up with some of her crazy facts.
                                                          Cathy
                                                           
                                                          #29
                                                            WVHillbilly

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                                                            RE: CFS - Researching for Good Eats Tue, 06/20/06 3:05 PM (permalink)
                                                            quote:
                                                            Originally posted by Greyghost

                                                            Cubed, country fried and Salisbury steak are three unrelated items other than them all being beef.

                                                            In my experience, cubed steak is lean tough steak that has been tenderized through mechanical means. I tend to like it as I had a lot of it as a kid. My method is to saute it lightly in butter and drench it with Lea & Perrins once it reaches the plate.

                                                            Country fried (I call it chicken fried) can be any cut of steak you want as long as it is breaded and cooked in the manner of fried chicken. Recipes will vary a lot on this one.

                                                            Salisbury steak is simply hamburger named after Dr. J.H. Salisbury who advocated shredding all foods prior to consumption to improve digestibility.

                                                            Good luck on your project, but I think you will have a hard time lumping all three items together as they are essentially unrelated.


                                                            Greyghost has the WV description.
                                                            The only exception I have is that a salisbury steak can also me made with a cubed steak.
                                                            Salisbury steak is usually baked with a brown gravy and chicken fried steak is usually done with a white gravy.
                                                            I'm not crazy about any of the variations.

                                                            Oh, and give Alton my best.
                                                             
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