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ellen4641

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RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/2/08 9:02 AM (permalink)
quote:
Originally posted by Baah Ben

Ellen..No way I could make a burger like that in my oven. Was this one of your better trips?

It was quite a show to watch the guy take the burgers out of those old oven contraptions...(there was a big table of people ahead of me)...
I should've "snuck" that pic in of the "show", too! You've probably seen that part on the Food Network already, though. Hey, it feels good to know that I gave those burger pics the justice they deserve!

Yes, this trip was extra special, as I got to "meat up" with Roadfood.com buddies on the front end and on the back end of my trip. And I had some time to myself in the middle. A perfect trip.
(but, of course, I loved eating those Brickyard charbroiled burgers in Daytona with YOU, as well)

And BAAH BEN, even though I went "beef all the way", I actually did put up with a little PORK in those hot dogs. (I confess that I often just took a few bites or so, but I kept trying)
I wanted to get the effect of those classic CT hot dog joints...
love the atmosphere and those often homemade toppings.
And besides, I was told I just "HAD" to go to these places, so did'nt want to disappoint! (LOL) I figured, at the very least, I would hopefully have some good hot dog pics to share!
My pic from Super Duper Weenie was quite blurry, but that was the New Yorker dog, and had tons of stuff I like on it...
(but I often just get mustard only on my dogs)

I hear you about that Cheese Wiz going "against the grain" for Louis Lunch philosophy.. wonder how they came up with THAT idea!

And HEY, MICHAEL HOFFMAN, I just brought that mayonnaise for "security and comfort" purposes... I just put on a teeny bit towards the end of my burger, just for the heck of it... but it definitely DID NOT NEED IT!
STAY TUNED for Billyboys supplementary "add-on" to my report!
Go for it, Billyboy!
 
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    joerogo

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    RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/2/08 9:21 AM (permalink)
    Ellen, Screenbear gave you very good advice. I just have to add a warning: DO NOT USE A GRIDDLE PAN INDOORS. Unless of course you like smelling your burgers four days later. Very smokey. I use an electric hot plate on my deck. Great way to grill steaks in the winter.
     
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      RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/2/08 9:26 AM (permalink)
      Ellen, your road trips are an inspiration to all of us! I love traveling with you through your photos and trip reports, even if I can't get out of this small Southern town very often.

      And you are a Girl/Boy Scout in the true sense: "Always Be Prepared" - you had those mayo packets along just in case, but didn't need them at Louis Lunch! Ha! You should post your Roadfood Emergency Travel Kit ideas here for the rest of us. For my own, I always have my Handy Little Knife, cups, napkins, paper plates, salt and pepper, mustard and catsup packets, water and a terry cloth for clean-up.
       
      #33
        MiamiDon

        RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/2/08 11:21 AM (permalink)
        Ellen4642, I loved the multi-part TOUR report. I've been thinking of it as "Le Tour de Connecticut", since I saw the marked-up map.

        This shot...


        ...showing your GPS armed and ready for the next Roadfood stop was very cool.

        Your "deconstructed burger" shots reveal a lot that some other views conceal. Now I think that I "get" Louis Lunch (other than the historical aspects to a visit).

        Thanks, and keep dining. And don't forget your camera!


         
        #34
          Twinwillow

          RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/2/08 12:05 PM (permalink)
          Thanks, Ellen. Now, I feel like I went to Louis Lunch too! What a great looking burger! And, as always, a great looking, ELLEN!
           
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            ellen4641

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            RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/2/08 4:13 PM (permalink)
            quote:
            Originally posted by MiamiDon
            Your "deconstructed burger" shots reveal a lot that some other views conceal.

            Way too often burgers are SO concealed under a big roll and a ton of cheese..........and one can BARELY see the MEAT!

            I am single-handedly trying to show burgers as they deserve to be shown!! I am in charge of the "burger pic reform movement" ! (I try and take pics of the "presented" burger, and then the "deconstructed" one)(I feel it's the true way it should be done)
             
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              RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/2/08 5:51 PM (permalink)
              WOW, what can I say Ellen. You’ve not only covered a lot of territory and RF places but managed to hook up with Billy Boy as well. See you, Tara, Baah Ben, and whoever else in October at the Brickyard.

               
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                ellen4641

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                RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/2/08 7:30 PM (permalink)
                quote:
                Originally posted by tcrouzer
                [ I alway have my cups, napkins, paper plates, salt and pepper....

                I hear ya!! I always seem to be carrying emergency salt packets in my pocketbook.......(cause one just never knows..)
                 
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                  ellen4641

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                  RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/2/08 7:32 PM (permalink)
                  quote:
                  Originally posted by Twinwillow

                  Thanks, Ellen. Now, I feel like I went to Louis Lunch too! What a great looking burger! And, as always, a great looking, ELLEN!

                  Wow ! You made my day, Michael!!
                   
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                    RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/2/08 7:35 PM (permalink)
                    By the way, I hate the way Louis Lunch looks since they moved the building. It was much better looking when it wasn't as pretty around the place, and when the paint was always peeling.
                     
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                      ellen4641

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                      RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/2/08 7:37 PM (permalink)
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by John A

                      WOW, what can I say Ellen. You’ve not only covered a lot of territory and RF places but managed to hook up with Billy Boy as well. See you, Tara, Baah Ben, and whoever else in October at the Brickyard.

                      I actually was lucky enough to hook up with TWO Roadfood.com buddies.
                      On my 1st day I was with Doggydaddy (Mark) for an encore "meat up".
                      (that's all in my Part 1)
                      We had met a year or so ago in NYC at Island Burger for burgers and great chocolate malteds.
                      Day 2 in CT, I was on my own, as well as most of my Day 3.
                      In the evening on Day 3, I was thrilled to be finally meating up with the legendary Billyboy, during my trip thru NYC on the way home to AC. Of course, when we actually met, it had felt like we'd ALREADY met !!! (thanks to all our trip report pics, and talking on the phone a few times)
                      It's really wonderful to meat up with Roadfooders, as there is such a good common ground!

                       
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                        RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sun, 08/3/08 8:20 AM (permalink)
                        Here are some additional pics from the meal Ellen and I shared at Hill Country on 7/22/08. It was great to finally break bread with the wonderful Ellen on that evening. It was a beautiful night and the walk to Hill Country from the 6 train and to Port Authority afterwards was delightful. I too felt like we had already met from talking with her previously and from our shared RF interests.

                        Here is the meats menu board from our visit...


                        and a shot of the same board from the visit I used for my RF review about one year ago. I wanted to show both of these to note the difference in prices since last year. The brisket jumped up as did the sausages and the Market Chicken!


                        I've just always loved the colors and different font styles on this sides board and the way each listing has artwork, colors and styles that help describe the dish. I'd love to make off with it and hang it up in my apartment!! I haven't tried the barbecue beef sandwich, deviled eggs or the slaw yet. I love all of their sides except both of the beans and the black eyed caviar.


                        A blessing and a curse. We arrived around 8:30 pm and were seated right away in the downstairs area near the stage where the band was setting up to play at 9:00 pm. I asked if we could sit back further as we wanted to be able to have a conversation! I went upstairs to get in line for food and the meat line was substantial. I noticed this sign and they were also out of the jalapeno sausage (my favorite)! I WAS glad to see that they do sell out later in the evening and that's it. No "finding something in the back". Good turnover and no holding is usually a sign of a commitment to quality over quantity. I called Ellen from my cell to tell her that they were out of the beef ribs (her fave!) and she had me pick up a mix of moist and lean briskets.


                        Sorry about the pic. I got some of these bread slices and some crackers to go with the meats.


                        A close-up of the regular sausage link, moist brisket (long slice on left) and the lean brisket. I tried the moist for the first time and while it had good flavor and crust, it was just too fatty for me. I like cooking with fat as it certainly is instrumental in terms and flavor and texture, I just don't enjoy it when there are big chunks or streaks as a part of the end result (although for some odd reason, I don't mind it as an end result in bacon). Go figure! The lean brisket was everything I have come to expect from this place. Moist, wicked bark, great smoke penetration and incredibly tender!

                        I've heard people say that this is dry and honestly I don't understand it. It's definitely not as moist as the "moist", but certainly not dry. I've ordered this solo and my butcher paper got plenty moist from the "lean" . I was going to cut it into smaller pieces and when I went to move it with my fork, it pulled apart. So tender! I know it's not a "regionally correct" thing, but I think it is worth it to make a special trip here just for the brisket.


                        A shot of the mac and cheese behind the glass at the sides counter. Don't worry, it's not burned!! Just a nice, wickedly dark crust like the ones I would have on my mom's mac and cheese. I'm not sure, but I think that is paprika sprinkled on top.


                        A shot of the first round of food: saltines, sausage link, Sweet Potato Bourbon Mash, the "Brisket Brothers", Skillet Cornbread with Ancho Honey butter, Beer Braised Cowboy Pinto Beans, and the Texas Toast brand bread. The sweet potatoes were great and really provided a welcome yang to the savory rich yin of the meat. Sweet, but not too sweet. The pinto beans definitely had the presence of beer, which was welcome and there was some meat in them, but I wasn't mad about them as I'm not a fan of my beans swimming in liquid. The cornbread was okay. I've had better. Glad I tried it but don't think I would get it again. The ancho honey butter was nice touch, but I wish it had had more of a spicy punch to it.


                        A close-up of the sausage link. Very good sausage. Nice snap, good texture and spices inside. Their barbecue sauce complements this very well. I'd get the link again unless they had the jalapeno link available as I'm a big fan of the spicy kick it provides.


                        Round 2-Ellen went upstairs of picked us up some more lean and moist brisket... I really didn't think I could handle any more, but Ellen scored a wicked end piece of lean brisket (on the far left) and it just about had me swooning. The combination of that bark, smoke and moist meat had my belly smilin'!


                        ...and some Hot German Potatoes! Love these! I think it was my third time trying them and "comfort food" is the phrase that comes to mind. Warm, soft yet sturdy texture, nice vinegar tang and bits of bacon studded throughout. A real winner.


                        A symphony of destruction. I felt somewhat guilty, but like a burnt steak, I was DONE! No mas, I cried!


                        The wall of flyers downstairs listing the musical acts who have passed through Hill Country.


                        Ellen, thank you so much for including me at the tail end of your tour. The food was superb, but as wheregreggeats said, Roadfood is so much better when sharing it with fellow Roadfooders. I was honored to be able to spend time breaking bread with you. I hope to do so again. Happy Eating!!
                         
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                          pilferk

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                          RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Fri, 08/8/08 11:01 AM (permalink)
                          GREAT last day!

                          Glad you liked Louis'. I work a block or so from there...it (along with bar, across the street, which serves decent pizza within walking distance of work) definitely is a favorite!

                           
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                            ellen4641

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                            RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Fri, 08/8/08 4:05 PM (permalink)
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by pilferk

                            GREAT last day!

                            Glad you liked Louis'. I work a block or so from there...it (along with bar, across the street, which serves decent pizza within walking distance of work) definitely is a favorite!

                            Nice hearing from you, pilferk!!
                            I bet a lot of Roadfooders are going to be jealous if they hear you work a block away from Louis Lunch! (and plenty of other good joints)

                             
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                              RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Fri, 08/8/08 4:17 PM (permalink)
                              What great looking food in a place with great atmosphere...oooh and sweet potato bourbon mashed!!!! Hill Country is something else!!!
                               
                              #45
                                SRB

                                RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Fri, 08/8/08 6:58 PM (permalink)
                                quote:
                                Originally posted by joerogo

                                Ellen, Screenbear gave you very good advice. I just have to add a warning: DO NOT USE A GRIDDLE PAN INDOORS. Unless of course you like smelling your burgers four days later.


                                You say that like it's a bad thing! Beats potpourri hands down in my book....
                                 
                                #46
                                  mr chips

                                  RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/9/08 1:29 AM (permalink)
                                  Wow! Ellen,you are such an adventurous soul. I hope someday we will be able to eat together again.
                                   
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                                    RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/9/08 10:11 AM (permalink)
                                    Ellen, one of the best things about your reports is that I trust them. If something isn't up to standards, you call it.

                                    And of course, the great reportage, the way the attitude and zest for adventure comes through, the fun, and the great pictures!
                                     
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                                      RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/9/08 1:20 PM (permalink)
                                      quote:
                                      Originally posted by Mosca

                                      Ellen, one of the best things about your reports is that I trust them. If something isn't up to standards, you call it.

                                      And of course, the great reportage, the way the attitude and zest for adventure comes through, the fun, and the great pictures!

                                      Wow, that is such a cool compliment, Mosca! (love your wording).
                                      I try and back up my trip reports with PICS....
                                      so one can actually see items like dried up brisket. (Wildwood, NJ)
                                      A Roadfooder called that pic a "tire retread" that you would see on the highway.

                                      And if I got served a stale roll (Iron Horse, NJ) I will show the crumbling roll.

                                      I wrote to both owners of those places, and I DID hear back from the first place, Boyds BBQ. They want me to give them a 2nd chance with a free meal. It definitely felt nice to get return feedback.

                                      On most other occasions, I will often say "it's just my OPINION, as everyone has different TASTES". I try and be as fair as possible, as I don't want restaurant owners looking to hunt me down, either. For instance, I found the Greenwich burger place to be good, fresh meat, but bland cooking preparation.

                                      Thanks again, Mosca, and all others for sharing my adventure!!
                                       
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                                        RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Wed, 08/13/08 4:45 PM (permalink)
                                        Ellen

                                        A fantastic report! I'm about to post my own New England ramblings (alas, no pics, but I must say, your report makes me wanna go back! So much I missed!
                                         
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                                          RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Fri, 08/29/08 10:34 AM (permalink)
                                          I decided to bring back this thread since there was some back-and-forth about Hill Country BBQ and my old Brooklyn friends and I finally had our yearly reunion Thursday night and went there. Considering that two of them were flying in, we all managed to meet at Hill Country at 6:30 as planned.

                                          I was somewhat disappointed by the food. First of all, somehow I ran up a $34 bill and came away still a little hungry. I know it’s New York (hey I work there, I know) but this is barbeque, not steak dinner.

                                          I had the moist brisket, which was way too fatty as Ellen and others have said, and the pork ribs, which were tasty but did not have a whole lot of meat on them. The biggest disappointment was the sausage link. It seemed a little “mealy”, as the texture was just a little off. I had been to Kruez market about 20 years ago and the sausage was so memorable I was really looking forward to trying it in NY. Maybe I had just built it up too much in my mind. The green beans with durkee onions casserole was fine.

                                          One other thing bothered me; sometimes it’s the little things. The meat guy basically has a job description consisting of 3 things:

                                          1) Cut the meat.
                                          2) Put it on the butcher paper
                                          3) Put Texas bread on top

                                          When I got to my seat, it turned out he had forgotten #3. To get back on line and wait another 5 minutes to get two pieces of bread while my food was getting cold did not seem to be a good idea, so I just went without, but still..

                                          Anyway it was mostly about the camaraderie of my merry band of aging baby boomers. We continued the reunion up in Westchester at my friend’s house, reminisced over many beers and a few other things (we’re children of the 60’s, you know) until about 3AM, slept over and made our way back to airports and rail lines the next morning.

                                          I'm in no real rush to get back to Hill Country.
                                           
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                                            billyboy

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                                            RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Fri, 08/29/08 10:57 AM (permalink)
                                            Ken, it's definitely expensive at Hill Country, but $34 would be a really, really cheap steak dinner in NYC. It's the rent and cost of overhead that makes those prices go up. They have combos now that are a better deal than buying individually. I hear you on the bread/crackers thing. I always just stay at the counter now and ask for it as they usually forget. I do love it and have had some hits and misses there.
                                             
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                                              Baah Ben

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                                              RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Fri, 08/29/08 8:32 PM (permalink)
                                              Mosca - Let's hope we all report reality. Otherwise, we're wasting each others' time and more importantly each others' MONEY.
                                               
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                                                ellen4641

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                                                RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sat, 08/30/08 5:23 PM (permalink)
                                                quote:
                                                Originally posted by ken8038

                                                I we all managed to meet at Hill Country at 6:30 as planned.
                                                I had the moist brisket, which was way too fatty as Ellen has said. The biggest disappointment was the sausage link. It seemed a little “mealy”, as the texture was just a little off.

                                                Anyway it was mostly about the camaraderie of my merry band of aging baby boomers. We continued the reunion up in Westchester at my friend’s house, until about 3AM, slept over and made our way back to airports and rail lines the next morning.

                                                Hi there, Ken!
                                                Appreciate you taking time to share your Hill Country experience with us! Looks like the most memorable part was the slumber party over your buddy's house!!!

                                                YES, I agree about the moist brisket being too fatty, (a certain amount of fat is good, but this went overboard!).

                                                I've had the beef ribs a few times. First time they had a sitting around taste, 2nd time it was excellent, and 3rd time they were out of them.

                                                I had the both the moist and lean brisket on my last visit (after the time I met with Billyboy) . The lean was way too dry; it was much better when I had it with Billyboy!

                                                I'm finding it's hit or miss there lately! I agree about the textures being a little off; I found the moist brisket to be a little off, plus it was so blubbery it was hard to chew...

                                                I learned it's best to order a 1/4 pound at a time, as they tend to give you way more, anyway... and this way, if it's not quite right, you can always go back for a little more..
                                                and order just one beef rib at a time... gotta test things out first!!!
                                                 
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                                                  ken8038

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                                                  RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sun, 08/31/08 9:28 PM (permalink)
                                                  Thanks for the comments Billyboy and Ellen. I've about had it with trying to experience BBQ in NY City, Hill Country having been my 2nd consecutive dissapointing experience, along with Virgil's.

                                                  Just as I wouldn't think about going to some back road in North Carolina for Pastrami, I think I'll leave the NYC BBQ to the mobs of Yuppies who have never been west of the Hudson River. In NY I'll stick with holes in the walls with great Arepas or Puerto Rican Meat Pies or Knishes or Pizza, and so on. It just sort of "fits" better.
                                                   
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                                                    Baah Ben

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                                                    RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Sun, 08/31/08 10:09 PM (permalink)
                                                    Ken8038 - Do any of the places have wood fired open pits? Do you know? It seems you have been to quite a few of them. I cannot imagine them being allowed to use open pits in Manhattan with all the smoke, etc. but, perhaps they are allowed? It appears from the pictures most are using enclosed cabinet smokers. That doesn't mean the product is bad, of course. Time and wood seem to be the two critical factors.

                                                    I know Blue Smoke has stated they have all their meats smoked for them off premises. Have you been there? If so, what are your comments? You say you don't think much of any of these NYC places? R.U.B, Hill Country, Virgils (that one has been around for quite some time..isn't that the one in Astoria? Or, is it Manhattan). One I remember back when I lived up there - Tennessee Mountain..A long time ago.

                                                    What are your examples of good "Q"..Just wondering. My standards start with Arthur Bryant's and then Big Bob Gibson's and Tom Jenkin's in Ft. Lauderdale. Been to many others throughout the South, but never been to Texas. Can it also be that it is hard to even relate to eating "Q" in Manhattan and Queens?

                                                    The smoked links look very good. I guess that's because they have it shipped in from Texas. The brisket looks ok, too.
                                                     
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                                                      RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Mon, 09/1/08 8:23 AM (permalink)
                                                      Ben, I don't think they use open pits, at least not that I saw, I agree that probably would violate at least 15 clean air and restaurant rules in NY City.

                                                      I forgot about Blue Smoke, I was there about 2 years ago, and mostly I remember it for how annoying the servers were. Every step of the way they were "suggesting" add-ons that would only result in a higher bill. We were joking about it as the meal progressed. The food was Ok, but again, nothing to write home about (assuming one's home is in Alabama or Texas or anywhere else in BBQ country).

                                                      My favorite BBQ of all time, and I'm far from the expert on this, would be Kruez Market and Louie Mueller's in Texas, and yes, Arthur Bryant's in KC.

                                                      Oh, speaking of Health Code violations, one other thing I forgot to mention about Hill Country. The restroom (singular, there is just one for the whole place) was about the filtiest I've ever seen (and being a roadfood fan I've experienced some filthy restrooms). There was actually visible mold on parts of the walls and floor. I don't know if they were aiming for that rural down home roadside shack ambiance with it or what, but it was awful. I'm not sure how any woman could have broughtherself to sit down in there, it was bad enough standing...
                                                       
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                                                        signman

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                                                        RE: CT Day 3, Rawleys, LOUIS LUNCH, Billyboy, etc Mon, 09/1/08 9:14 PM (permalink)
                                                        Ben, I tried Tom Jenkins once and it was ok. I'd like to give it another shot in December. What's their best item?
                                                         
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