Chains Bad!

tiki,
you're invited to peek at these from Helena Arkansas a week ago. I hope this works.
http://photo.walgreens.com/share/p=961161129518693026/l=5916726/cobrandOid=1009 There should be a food pic or two in there too. It might ask you to jump through hoops and if you decline, I understand. I'm eventually going to post them to www.flickr.com ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/milwfoodlovers/ ) but it won't be for some time.

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Originally posted by MilwFoodlovers

tiki,
you're invited to peek at these from Helena Arkansas a week ago. I hope this works.
http://photo.walgreens.com/share/p=961161129518693026/l=5916726/cobrandOid=1009 There should be a food pic or two in there too. It might ask you to jump through hoops and if you decline, I understand. I'm eventually going to post them to www.flickr.com ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/milwfoodlovers/ ) but it won't be for some time.

Looks like you had a good time!!!! and it appears to have been a great show--i LOCE Hubert Sumlin and have always been a big fan of James Harmons band---Lived him back when Hollywood Fats was with him. I have to invite you to come on down to our festival next Labor Day---we have a great time-and i promise --its THE most down home honest to god have a good time family friendly festival you will ever go to!!! and foods good to---great barbeque--killer catfish and shrimp and hushpuppie!!!--wonderful homemade fried pies-we try to keep the music reall blues in the Texas Hot Box Guitar tradition and the food as authentic as you can get----sorry--no deep fried candy bars or stuff on a stick--check it out at www.dcminnerblues.com In the past we have had Hubert---Cary Bell--and Lurrie---James Peterson and his son Lucky, Barbara Dane-Joanna Connor-Rosie Ledett the Zydeco queen-Preston Shannon-LOTS more.

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Originally posted by garryd451
The real bad part about this whole Chain concept is that anyone that has born after 1970 has been brought up thinking that that chain food is the way to eat amd I mean Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner.
The people that were born in the 1940's and 1950's are the last generations that were brought up with thinking that diners, hometown restaurants, and Roadfood establishments were going out to eat. The people born around or after 1970's thinks Chain food is going out to eat.

Interesting you should say that; I was born after 1970 & the only place I've ever gotten food poisoning was at a chain! (Their name rhymes with Amos Staves) I just like Dunkin's coffee cause it's plain & simple. There are times I enjoy the nonfat soy mocha, but more often than not, leave the foofy crap out of my coffee, please.

Chains are not always the worst choice.

A week or so ago, we went to a bakery/coffee shop in Kingston, NY - a place we had patronized many times and a damn fine bakery- the service was awful, the place was not very busy yet our waitress took a full ten minutes to bring our coffee, and then she totally screwed up our orders and treated us to a generally unpleasant attitude. When we got our bill I left her a 25 cent tip and went to the cashier where I quietly informed her of the atrocious service. The cashier essentially said, "So what?". so I complained to the manager who treated me to the same attitude. So much for that Mom and Pop local business.

The next day we went to a national chain coffee shop/bakery where we got prompt courteous service (what there was of it- it's mostly help yourself) and had a pretty good cup of coffee and a danish that was also OK. So much for a not so bad national chain...

Cheers, John

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Originally posted by chezkatie

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Originally posted by tmiles

I IMO, as much as I like Ogunquit as it is, Ogunquit's proposed ban is Un American

I do not understand this being un-American. I am assuming that every registered voter will be able to cast a ballot. Sounds sort of like a democracy to me. (Democracy is a form of government in which policy is decided by the preference of the majority in a decision-making process, usually elections or referenda, open to all or most citizens.) Yup................sounds like the United States of America to me.

Great. So if I live in an all white town, and we don't want any ethnic groups moving in, and an African-American family wants to move in, we can call a vote and keep them out of the town. Democracy at work, right? This would be an example of policy being decided byt the preference of the majority in a decision making process.

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Originally posted by saps

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Originally posted by chezkatie

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Originally posted by tmiles

I IMO, as much as I like Ogunquit as it is, Ogunquit's proposed ban is Un American

I do not understand this being un-American. I am assuming that every registered voter will be able to cast a ballot. Sounds sort of like a democracy to me. (Democracy is a form of government in which policy is decided by the preference of the majority in a decision-making process, usually elections or referenda, open to all or most citizens.) Yup................sounds like the United States of America to me.

Great. So if I live in an all white town, and we don't want any ethnic groups moving in, and an African-American family wants to move in, we can call a vote and keep them out of the town. Democracy at work, right? This would be an example of policy being decided byt the preference of the majority in a decision making process.

SOUNDS good---but i believe you will find that this same arguement has been shot down in court before---this is NOT a case of civil rights violations.There are several small-fairly well to do,and sometimes well intergrated communities that have LONG had very tight restrictions on business types allowed in the town---ie--LaJolla Calif--Dover,Ma.---and there a plenty of places where there are no bars--no poolhalls--no xxxrated "bookstores"----community standards NOT civil rights violations. Whether you and i like it is no revelent---its their town--and if they dont want McDonalds--or want to tell you what color your house CAN be painted--or if you can sell liquor---then we dont have to live there if we dont like it. Now what they CANT do is to let them open a fast food joint that wont serve people of color!--THAT WILL stand up in court!

Quote: "Great. So if I live in an all white town, and we don't want any ethnic groups moving in, and an African-American family wants to move in, we can call a vote and keep them out of the town. Democracy at work, right? This would be an example of policy being decided byt the preference of the majority in a decision making process."


Unless you live in a different country than I do, this has been illegal, under federal law as well as the legal codes of most states, for several decades. Discrimination based on race is strictly outlawed in the US, as is discrimination based on your nation of origin, and your gender.

However, there are no protections, constitutional or otherwise, for fast-food joints. Perhaps the current occupant of The White House can propose a Constitutional Amendment on this pressing issue.

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Originally posted by saps

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Originally posted by chezkatie

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Originally posted by tmiles

I IMO, as much as I like Ogunquit as it is, Ogunquit's proposed ban is Un American

I do not understand this being un-American. I am assuming that every registered voter will be able to cast a ballot. Sounds sort of like a democracy to me. (Democracy is a form of government in which policy is decided by the preference of the majority in a decision-making process, usually elections or referenda, open to all or most citizens.) Yup................sounds like the United States of America to me.

Great. So if I live in an all white town, and we don't want any ethnic groups moving in, and an African-American family wants to move in, we can call a vote and keep them out of the town. Democracy at work, right? This would be an example of policy being decided byt the preference of the majority in a decision making process.

Gee, in this day and age, I cannot see this issue even being brought up for a vote..............where in hell do you live that you would even think along those lines.....I think you want to argue for the sake of wanting to disagree............

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Originally posted by tiki

SOUNDS good---but i believe you will find that this same arguement has been shot down in court before---this is NOT a case of civil rights violations.There are several small-fairly well to do,and sometimes well intergrated communities that have LONG had very tight restrictions on business types allowed in the town---ie--LaJolla Calif--Dover,Ma.---and there a plenty of places where there are no bars--no poolhalls--no xxxrated "bookstores"----community standards NOT civil rights violations. Whether you and i like it is no revelent---its their town--and if they dont want McDonalds--or want to tell you what color your house CAN be painted--or if you can sell liquor---then we dont have to live there if we dont like it. Now what they CANT do is to let them open a fast food joint that wont serve people of color!--THAT WILL stand up in court!

But this isn't an issue of "business types"...the person who was quoted in the article runs a bakery, so a ban on baked goods, or adult store, or pool halls is not the issue, it is a group of protectionists seeking to ban competition and have things their way. What really galls me is that those spearheading this issue are invaders themselves. Ogunquit today is not what Ogunquit was 25 years ago. How would these people felt if bans were set up to keep them out? This is an ugly trend in our country...people come in, shape something THEIR way, and then seek to keep others out who want to do the same.

Funny this thread came up again...I just returned from Massachusetts tonight and made a trip to Butler's Donuts (the cool weather means the long johns are back...yummy!). They are down the street from TWO chain donut stores and cannot keep up with demand for their goods. They don't seem to have a care in the world who moves in because they have something people want.

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Originally posted by Tony Bad

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Originally posted by tiki

SOUNDS good---but i believe you will find that this same arguement has been shot down in court before---this is NOT a case of civil rights violations.There are several small-fairly well to do,and sometimes well intergrated communities that have LONG had very tight restrictions on business types allowed in the town---ie--LaJolla Calif--Dover,Ma.---and there a plenty of places where there are no bars--no poolhalls--no xxxrated "bookstores"----community standards NOT civil rights violations. Whether you and i like it is no revelent---its their town--and if they dont want McDonalds--or want to tell you what color your house CAN be painted--or if you can sell liquor---then we dont have to live there if we dont like it. Now what they CANT do is to let them open a fast food joint that wont serve people of color!--THAT WILL stand up in court!

But this isn't an issue of "business types"...the person who was quoted in the article runs a bakery, so a ban on baked goods, or adult store, or pool halls is not the issue, it is a group of protectionists seeking to ban competition and have things their way. What really galls me is that those spearheading this issue are invaders themselves. Ogunquit today is not what Ogunquit was 25 years ago. How would these people felt if bans were set up to keep them out? This is an ugly trend in our country...people come in, shape something THEIR way, and then seek to keep others out who want to do the same.

Funny this thread came up again...I just returned from Massachusetts tonight and made a trip to Butler's Donuts (the cool weather means the long johns are back...yummy!). They are down the street from TWO chain donut stores and cannot keep up with demand for their goods. They don't seem to have a care in the world who moves in because they have something people want.

When this big debate happened in Saugatuck Michigan it was the local residents tht were up in arms, they did not want the chains coming into their town. So this case is different because it is the businesses that making the compliants, if I am reading this right?

The locals felt they had a quiet,quaint, small, lovely town and they felt if MacDonald's move into town thus all would change!