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John A

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Chasing A Skirt Mon, 04/27/09 2:08 PM (permalink)

Skirt Steak that is
 
Marinade
 
1 TSB Ground Ginger
1/2 Red Onion, Chopped
4 cloves Garlic, Chopped
1/2 cup Parsley, Chopped
1/8 cup Gravy Master
1/4 cup Dry Red Wine
1/4 cup Soy Sauce
1/4 cup Vegetable Oil
1/2 teaspoon Black Pepper
1/4 cup Brown Sugar
S&P To Taste
 
Place all ingredients in a food processor, blend to a paste.
 

 

 
Transfer to bowl, cover, and refrigerate 3-4 hours. Then place the Skirt steak in a dish and spread the marinade
over it. Refrigerate for 24 hours turning once.
 

 

 
Remove the steak from the marinade and rinse well, let it warm up to room temperature.
 

 
Set up the grill for direct grilling and preheat to high. When ready to cook, brush and oil the grill grate. Place the steak
on the hot grate and grill until cooked to taste.
 

 
 Transfer the steak to a cutting board and let rest for 5 minutes. Using a sharp knife, carve it into thin slices at a
45 degree angle across the grain.
 

 

 
 
 
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    rouxdog

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    Re:Chasing A Skirt Mon, 04/27/09 6:09 PM (permalink)
    John,
    "chasing a skirt", I was all over that! No fair, foul!!!!!!!! The beef looks delicious, I will give it a go here at la hacienda.
    Another thought. Here in New Mexico, carne adovado is quite common. A delicious dish made with chunks of pork marinated in red chile gravy(close to a sauce) overnight then slow and low roasted to perfection. A restaurant in Albuquerque preps this dish using pork ribs. I have a rack(ribs cut separetly) marinating now. Tomorrow is eatin time! Ribs adovada, posole, lettuce/tomato garnish and warm tortillas!!!!!!!!!
    I bet that skirt you chased and caught would be delicious adovado style.
    <message edited by rouxdog on Mon, 04/27/09 6:11 PM>
     
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      agnesrob

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      Re:Chasing A Skirt Mon, 04/27/09 7:27 PM (permalink)
      John, that looks great. I'm definately going to use that marinade!
       
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        joclyn

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        Re:Chasing A Skirt Mon, 04/27/09 10:56 PM (permalink)
        sounds good and looks tasty, too!

        why not use the marinade during cooking??
         
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          mar52

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          Re:Chasing A Skirt Mon, 04/27/09 11:42 PM (permalink)
          Yummy looking, John!

          Do you prefer skirt over flank or flank over skirt or are they both just as good?

          Mother's Day is coming up and one of my dishes will be Fajitas.  Wondering which cut of meat will be tastier or juicier or just plain best.
           
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            AaronM

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            Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 10:56 AM (permalink)
            Good GOD that looks good.
             
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              ann peeples

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              Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 11:26 AM (permalink)
              John, I will say it again-you have such a way with presentation and color that is envious.And I am sure your food TASTES better than it looks!!!
               
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                Foodbme

                Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 12:29 PM (permalink)
                "Remove the steak from the marinade and rinse well"

                I'm curious, why would you rinse all that great marinade off the meat?

                 
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                  ann peeples

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                  Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 12:32 PM (permalink)
                  Because its a marinade, not a cooking sauce.There is a difference,foodbme.
                   
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                    Scorereader

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                    Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 2:45 PM (permalink)
                    I still woudn't "rinse." Just pull the steak out and gently shake off excess. No need to wash the meat.

                    mar52, I've used both flank and skirt for fajitas. Skirt seems to work better - size is one factor - the strips are all the same length. Flank has worked out well for me too. It usually comes down, for me, to price. Which ever is less expensive that day.

                    <message edited by Scorereader on Tue, 04/28/09 5:13 PM>
                     
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                      mar52

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                      Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 3:04 PM (permalink)
                      Thank you!  Price is a great factor.
                       
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                        morganen

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                        Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 3:05 PM (permalink)
                        Oh yum. Thanks for posting this John A. I'm going to try my hand at it this weekend. I just hope they have Gravy Master at my supermarket. I had to Google it to figure out what it was!
                         
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                          mayor al

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                          Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 4:24 PM (permalink)
                          That is good looking Beef, but as commented by Marlene, Price would be part of the purchase decision. 

                              Here in So Indiana we have had a number of Beef Sales at our Local (and at Kroger) Market. I got some 1.5 inch PorterHouse Steaks a week or so ago at $4.99 a pound and the same Market had Beef Tenderloins (5-8 pound average) at $6.99 a pound (Cryovac Package, but no maranade). I would choose either of those cuts (especially the Porterhouse) before buying Skirt or Flank Steak at $6.99/lb.
                           
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                            Greymo

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                            Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 4:44 PM (permalink)
                            annpeeples


                            Because its a marinade, not a cooking sauce.There is a difference,foodbme.

                             
                            Ann we are not talking about a cooking sauce.  We are talking about a marinade.  Never in my life, have I ever heard of rinsing the marinade off a piece of meat before cooking.  What would be the purpose?


                             
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                              John A

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                              Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 5:23 PM (permalink)
                              The marinade is a very thick paste that you spread on. I suppose it could be thinned and used as a basting sauce but I see no need for it.

                              Before marinating:



                              After marinating:



                              It has done its job.
                               
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                                Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 5:34 PM (permalink)
                                ok, John, but "rinse" it? with water?

                                shake it off, or scrape it, but douse the meat with water? I don't think so.

                                no one is purporting to reuse the marinade as a sauce or baste. simply put, rinsing off the meat is extreme.  rinsing steak with water will remove a ton of flavor. 
                                 
                                Like Greymo, I have never "rinsed off" meat after marinading. It's simply preposterous.
                                 
                                 
                                <message edited by Scorereader on Tue, 04/28/09 5:41 PM>
                                 
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                                  ann peeples

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                                  Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 6:39 PM (permalink)
                                  Chacon sons gout, mons ami-in other words,to each his own, my friends. Raw meat in a marinade should not be cooked in the same marinade.Make a new one to baste the meat.And in todays scary environment-this is good advice.
                                   
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                                    Greymo

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                                    Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 7:49 PM (permalink)
                                    So are you telling us that whenever you marinade a piece of meat,  that  you have to rinse it off before grilling?   Sorry............that is the oddest statement that I have ever  read about grilling a piece of meat.
                                     
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                                      joerogo

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                                      Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 7:53 PM (permalink)
                                      Hey John,
                                       
                                      Let me see if I got this straight.
                                       
                                      You marinade the steak in the thick paste/rub/marinade.  Then you rinse off the thick paste/rub/marinade, #1 because it has done its job of flavoring the steak, #2 because you do not want a heavy crust left on the steak by the thick paste/rub/marinade.
                                       
                                      And I know the  thick paste/rub/marinade would leave a crust, because I read the ingredients, and there is brown sugar in the thick paste/rub/marinade.  And we all know that brown sugar will leave a horrible crust on a piece of meat cooked for a short period of time at high heat.
                                       
                                      Do I get an A Mr. A?
                                       
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                                        Michael Hoffman

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                                        Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 7:58 PM (permalink)
                                        annpeeples


                                        Chacon sons gout, mons ami-in other words,to each his own, my friends. Raw meat in a marinade should not be cooked in the same marinade.Make a new one to baste the meat.And in todays scary environment-this is good advice.


                                        First of all, nothing was said about basting the meat with the marinade. But it is a most unusual idea to rise off a marinade. Now, there is nothing at all wrong with basting withy a marinade. You cook it first and then you baste with it.
                                         
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                                          Greymo

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                                          Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 8:01 PM (permalink)
                                          joerogo


                                          Hey John,
                                           
                                          Let me see if I got this straight.
                                           
                                          You marinade the steak in the thick paste/rub/marinade.  Then you rinse off the thick paste/rub/marinade, #1 because it has done its job of flavoring the steak, #2 because you do not want a heavy crust left on the steak by the thick paste/rub/marinade.
                                           
                                          And I know the  thick paste/rub/marinade would leave a crust, because I read the ingredients, and there is brown sugar in the thick paste/rub/marinade.  And we all know that brown sugar will leave a horrible crust on a piece of meat cooked for a short period of time at high heat.
                                           
                                          Do I get an A Mr. A?


                                          Of course  you get an A...............you are his buddy boy!
                                           
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                                            Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 8:34 PM (permalink)
                                            Excellent, John.  The cooked product looked a tad over done, IMO.  Probably the results of the marinade.  Excellent salad; as usual.
                                             
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                                              Re:Chasing A Skirt Tue, 04/28/09 8:44 PM (permalink)
                                              John that looked incredible... I wouldn't pass on that for anything. I too like to rinse a marinade off before grilling it as too much marinade on it will cause the meat to carmalize to quickly for me. I like a quick, hot sear followed by lowering the temp and letting it seal up and quick evenly.


                                              Dennis in Cary
                                               
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                                                John A

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                                                Re:Chasing A Skirt Wed, 04/29/09 5:46 AM (permalink)
                                                "De gustibus non disputandum est,"
                                                 
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                                                  joerogo

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                                                  Re:Chasing A Skirt Wed, 04/29/09 11:39 AM (permalink)
                                                  Greymo


                                                  joerogo


                                                  Hey John,
                                                   
                                                  Let me see if I got this straight.
                                                   
                                                  You marinade the steak in the thick paste/rub/marinade.  Then you rinse off the thick paste/rub/marinade, #1 because it has done its job of flavoring the steak, #2 because you do not want a heavy crust left on the steak by the thick paste/rub/marinade.
                                                   
                                                  And I know the  thick paste/rub/marinade would leave a crust, because I read the ingredients, and there is brown sugar in the thick paste/rub/marinade.  And we all know that brown sugar will leave a horrible crust on a piece of meat cooked for a short period of time at high heat.
                                                   
                                                  Do I get an A Mr. A?


                                                  Of course  you get an A...............you are his buddy boy!

                                                   
                                                  Yes Greymo, I am John's Buddy Boy.  It's nice to have friends, you.....never mind.  But I think he would only give me an "A" if I was correct, which I know I am.
                                                   


                                                   
                                                   
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                                                    Re:Chasing A Skirt Wed, 04/29/09 12:58 PM (permalink)
                                                    annpeeples


                                                    Chacon sons gout, mons ami-in other words,to each his own, my friends. Raw meat in a marinade should not be cooked in the same marinade.Make a new one to baste the meat.And in todays scary environment-this is good advice.


                                                    Hmmmm. "today's scary environment"??  Are there actually more germs and junk floating around today than there were 40+ years ago?? That's news to me!  In any case, I adore skirt steak and my family has marinaded it for years and not rinsed anything off. And we have been basting with the marinade as it cooks for years as well.

                                                    Personally, I'll keep doin' what I'm doin'... I don't find today's "bugs" (or whatever critters folks are afraid of) any more scary or dangerous than in the 1960s. In fact, I'd venture to guess the world is a healthier place than it was then, including current "swine"-related news.

                                                     
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                                                      ann peeples

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                                                      Re:Chasing A Skirt Wed, 04/29/09 2:24 PM (permalink)
                                                      I agree with whatever any one has said-i was taught, during my years of certification for food handling from the state of Wisconsin, that one should never keep a marinade on raw meat.My Mom used to rinse a flank steak after she marinated it for 12 hours.and that was in the 60s.Do whatever pleases you, I was just offering my opinion.
                                                       
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                                                        Re:Chasing A Skirt Wed, 04/29/09 3:32 PM (permalink)
                                                        annpeeples


                                                        I agree with whatever any one has said-i was taught, during my years of certification for food handling from the state of Wisconsin, that one should never keep a marinade on raw meat.My Mom used to rinse a flank steak after she marinated it for 12 hours.and that was in the 60s.Do whatever pleases you, I was just offering my opinion.


                                                        So, what you're saying is that you agree with everyone and continue to disagree with everyone.
                                                         
                                                        That makes sense.
                                                         
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                                                          Re:Chasing A Skirt Wed, 04/29/09 5:14 PM (permalink)
                                                          annpeeples


                                                          I agree with whatever any one has said-i was taught, during my years of certification for food handling from the state of Wisconsin, that one should never keep a marinade on raw meat.My Mom used to rinse a flank steak after she marinated it for 12 hours.and that was in the 60s.Do whatever pleases you, I was just offering my opinion.



                                                          In the professional kitchen where I once worked, we often used the marinade as the base of the sauce. We never had a problem, we were completely following code by bringing the marinade to a boil. Often adding stock first, then bringing to a boil.  
                                                          If we wanted to use the cold marinade, then we'd reserve a portion of the marinade for that purpose, and not let that reserve portion touch raw meat.
                                                           
                                                          I don't know who your teachers in Wisconsin were, but they must not have been aware of these sources:
                                                           
                                                          http://beeftips.com/safety_purchase.htm
                                                          "Do not use marinade which has been in contact with raw meat, fish or poultry as a sauce for the cooked food without first bringing the marinade to a boil for at least one minute. "
                                                           
                                                          http://www.fsis.usda.gov/Fact_Sheets/Barbecue_Food_Safety/index.asp
                                                          if the marinade used on raw meat or poultry is to be reused, make sure to let it come to a boil first to destroy any harmful bacteria.

                                                           
                                                          http://www.foodsafety.wisc.edu/foodfacts.html
                                                          If some of the marinade is to be used as a basting sauce while cooking, either reserve a portion separately before adding the raw meat, poultry, or seafood, or boil the marinade for 1 minute before using it as a basting sauce.
                                                           
                                                          Perhaps your teachers were overly cautious, which can be very wasteful and costly for a business.
                                                           
                                                          Again, no one suggested John re-use his marinade, its the washing off that is odd. Brushing off excess? sure. But rinsing with water? that has nothing to do with food safety, Absolutely nothing. The food gets cooked, so does any residual marinade still clinging to the meat. If you're too worried about bacteria in the the residual marinade that you need to wash the meat, you might as well throw out the meat, because it's the meat that infected the marinade, not the other way around.
                                                           
                                                           
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                                                            John A

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                                                            Re:Chasing A Skirt Thu, 04/30/09 5:30 AM (permalink)
                                                            What part of "it's a thick paste" is it that y'all do not understand? I rinsed it off for that reason, food safety was not  a concern.
                                                             
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