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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2007/11/23 09:42:19 (permalink)
I love the skyline chili cheese dogs
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2007/11/30 10:35:55 (permalink)
I should report back here that I did get the 6-way from Dixie Chili and also thought that the garlic overpowered the other items in the chili. An interesting experience, but I will stick with the classic 5-way.

Thanks to a question from Ort, I looked at other chili parlor websites and noticed that Blue Ash offers a 6-way, but the extra ingredient is jalapeno bottle caps instead of garlic. Anyone ever try this version?

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Aglamesis Brothers gets a big thumbs up from me and my traveling companions. I'm not prepared to say it is better than Graeter's, but I still loved the place. Thanks again!
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2007/11/30 11:18:36 (permalink)
I also tried the six-way at Dixie. Since i believe it is next to impossible to have too much garlic, I really liked it. Also had a six-way with jalapenos that I liked. I loved the downtown Dixis Chile Newport location. We went there because camp Washington was closed and had to settle for another place abd a very nice guide at the Cicinnat children's Museum told us about it.
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2007/11/30 11:27:02 (permalink)
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Originally posted by mr chips

I also tried the six-way at Dixie. Since i believe it is next to impossible to have too much garlic, I really liked it. Also had a six-way with jalapenos that I liked. I loved the downtown Dixis Chile Newport location. We went there because camp Washington was closed and had to settle for another place abd a very nice guide at the Cicinnat children's Museum told us about it.


I like a taste of garlic and I like a taste of jalapeno but anything that is overpowering is too much for me.

The subtle taste of Cincy chile is just fine for me.

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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2007/11/30 11:42:45 (permalink)
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Originally posted by mr chips

camp Washington was closed

This is VERY suprising....they are open virtually 24 hours a day :-).......That must have been either when they were moving facilities (2-3 years ago, I think?) or at a very, very odd weekend time or a major holiday?
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2007/11/30 11:45:27 (permalink)
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Originally posted by buffetbuster

Aglamesis Brothers gets a big thumbs up from me and my traveling companions.

Cool :-)

The Oakley location has a lot more character due to how long it has been there.....you won't get that at Graeter's

Graeter's is slowly moving into a bigger and more corporate model. Aglamess is content with what it is....a mom and pop operation with plenty of family involvement and just the two locations. Ergo, I think Aglamesis is more of a Roadfood-like destination

Ah well, sorry for the topic divergence.....back to the chili
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2007/11/30 11:56:18 (permalink)
I seem to recall that Camp Washington closes for a few hours on Sundays...can't remember exactly when. I'm pretty sure they're open most of Saturday well into the night; often that's when chili's the best. Several years ago, my son's fraternity from Tennessee had a party in Cincinnati, and we invited all the boys and their dates to our house for lunch. We served Skyline chili dogs. I bought the chili and cheese from Skyline, had the small buns specially made at Servatii's and ordered the little dogs from Kahn's. It was a great party, and while few of the kids had tasted Cinti chili before, most loved it, and several wanted to open a store in Knoxville! It was a wonderful party idea...I've thought of serving it to other groups, too, but to date have not done so.
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2007/11/30 13:49:04 (permalink)
According to Camp Washington's website, they are open 24 hours, 6 days a week.

http://www.campwashingtonchili.com/index.cfm

It doesn't say so, but they are closed on Sunday.
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2007/11/30 21:21:15 (permalink)
BB

Goldstar and Blue Ash both have 6-Ways with jalapenos

YUMMMMMY

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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2007/12/08 16:13:00 (permalink)
I drove all the way from milwaukee just to try skyline chili. all i can say is it almost ruined all chili for me... almost

skyline chili should be closed down
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2007/12/08 16:19:34 (permalink)
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Originally posted by goodeatsfan

I drove all the way from milwaukee just to try skyline chili. all i can say is it almost ruined all chili for me... almost

skyline chili should be closed down

I said the same thing when I moved to southern ohio 8 years ago however I have changed my mind. It has grown on me. I go to Skiline with my family and I really enjoy Dixie and Camp Washington. Orede a few cans from Dixie chili and make some 3 ways in Milwaukee a few time and it will win you over. Russ
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2007/12/08 18:04:33 (permalink)
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Originally posted by goodeatsfan

I drove all the way from milwaukee just to try skyline chili. all i can say is it almost ruined all chili for me... almost

skyline chili should be closed down


Or just leave em here and I will help keep in business

I had a Large 5 Way Wet for dinner yummmmmmm
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2010/09/11 20:48:12 (permalink)
I have seen lots of recipes for Cincinnati Style Chili and they always seem to contain chocolate and cinnamon. There is no chocolate or cinnamon in the real thing. It only tastes like there is. That is because most of the recipes I have seen use an embarrassingly small amount of allspice. It is the allspice that gives all the extra flavors thus its name ALLSPICE. Here is a recipe that I use that is so close to the real thing that I stopped fiddling with it. Like the one recipe earlier, do not brown the beef, let it cook in the simmering tomato juice. That will give it that fine texture that everyone is looking for.
 
    * 1 46 oz. Can Tomato Juice
    * 2 lbs ground round beef
    * 2 yellow onions, minced
    * 5 garlic cloves, minced
    * 1 whole bay leaf
    * 2 tsp allspice
    * 1 tsp ground cumin
    * 1 tsp orgegano
    * 1 tsp aleppo pepper
    * 1/2 tsp cayenne (1 whole tsp if you like it hotter)
    * 2 tsp smoked paperika
    * 1 1/2 tsp salt
    * 1 tsp ground pepper
   
   1. Add beef and tomato juice to a large pot. Bring to a simmer while
stirring until the ground beef is in very small pieces. Simmer for 30 minutes
and add all the rest of the ingredients.

   2. Simmer on low, uncovered, for 3 hours. Add water as needed if the chili
becomes to thick. Remove Bay Leaf.

   3. Refrigerated the chili until fat layer hardens. Remove the layer of fat
from top before reheating and serving.
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2010/09/11 23:11:20 (permalink)
cdsmith There is no chocolate or cinnamon in the real thing.

Incorrect.  In many of the actual recipes - keep in mind there are more than one - cocoa and/or cinammon are definitely in the mix. 
post edited by TJ Jackson - 2010/09/11 23:13:29
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2010/09/12 00:51:07 (permalink)
I can't believe all the posts on here by people who never heard of Cincinnati Chili!
post edited by Foodbme - 2010/09/12 00:52:32
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2010/09/12 07:04:15 (permalink)
While CD's recipe looks pretty good (minus the cayenne and aleppo for me - I prefer red pepper flakes) TJ's point is well taken.  According to  Cincinnati Magazine food editor Donna Covrett: 
  
"Created in 1922 by local Greek immigrants, the thin meat sauce perfumed with cinnamon and allspice is closer to its pastitsio roots than "chili" as conceived in the American southwest, and the merits of individual brands and parlors are endlessly debated by Cincinnati residents and visitors alike. Skyline Chili is sweeter and (supposedly) contains chocolate; Gold Star Chili spicier with a rich reddish hue. Cayenne pepper lingers on the palate from Camp Washington Chili, and Empress Chili—the original—is thin and dark with a prominent allspice smack. " 

I did a quick search and cinnamon shows up in just about all Pastitsio recipes (referred to above as the root of Cincy chili) and Allspice in some, but no chocolate. I've made it with and without and while the taste difference is pretty subtle, unsweetened cocoa powder adds something to the texture. I saw a recipe claiming to be the original Empress recipe that did contain unsweetened chocolate.

Now I live near Boston so the lobsters are cheaper, but I have to make my own 3-ways with oyster crackers. 
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2010/09/12 09:37:22 (permalink)
I found this somewhere.  Tasted pretty good
 
Cincinnati “Skyline” Chili
( copy cat recipe)
 
1 qt. water
2 lbs. ground beef
2 med. Onions, finely chopped
4 cloves garlic
2 (8 oz.) cans tomato sauce
1 bay leaf
½ tsp. red pepper
1 tsp. cumin
3 Tbs. chili powder
½ oz. cocoa
5 whole cloves
1½ tsp. salt
1 tsp. cinnamon
2 Tbs. vinegar
2 tsp. Worcestershire sauce
 
Add beef to water in 4 quart pot. Stir until beef separates to a fine texture. Boil slowly for 30 minuets. Add all other ingredients. Stir to blend, brining to a boil. Reduce heat. Simmer uncovered for about 3 hours. Pot may be covered for last hour. Serve over spaghetti (2- way), with oyster crackers.
3-way add cheese
4-way add onions
5-way add beans

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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2010/09/12 12:22:13 (permalink)
Thank you Michael Stern and GCW for the Cincy recipes.  It will be a tasty change up from Emeril's Texas Chili recipe.
 
Cincy chili is hard to find outside of Cincy.  Back in the early 1980's Skyline opened a store in Falls Church, VA, but it was short-lived.  Hard Times Cafe locations in the DC Metro area still serve a good version of it.
 
There is nothing like it in Dallas, so thanks again for the recipes!
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2010/09/12 12:26:53 (permalink)
Russ Jackson

[id="quote"]quote: [id="quote"]Originally posted by goodeatsfan

I drove all the way from milwaukee just to try skyline chili. all i can say is it almost ruined all chili for me... almost

skyline chili should be closed down



I said the same thing when I moved to southern ohio 8 years ago however I have changed my mind. It has grown on me. I go to Skiline with my family and I really enjoy Dixie and Camp Washington. Orede a few cans from Dixie chili and make some 3 ways in Milwaukee a few time and it will win you over. Russ


I find Worthmore's Cincinnati Chili to be my favorite:
http://www.worthmorefoods.com/
 
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RE: Cincinnati Chili 2010/09/12 12:27:38 (permalink)
Their mock turtle soup is also fantastic.
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Re:Cincinnati Chili 2010/12/15 23:48:37 (permalink)
Four years of walking past the original location of Skyline Chili in Price Hill across from Larry Shea's pharmacy and the Ohio State Liquor store on the way to and from Elder High School. Never got tired of those cheese coneys with extra onion.
While attending the University of Cinncity, worked a gig two blocks from the original location of Camp Washington Chili.  Man oh man,we ate that stuff till it was coming out our ears.
I luv Cincinnati style chili. When I make it at home the Gold Star Chili packets produce the best tasting results (IMHO).
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Re:Cincinnati Chili 2010/12/16 21:37:39 (permalink)
Jim, I am in envey of you getting to do that!!! And thanks for tha Gold Star tip! A dash of Old Bay and I will be good to go.
Joe
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