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2014/06/06 11:15:59 (permalink)

Connecticut Pizza

So remind me, what makes Connecticut pizzas special, what is different?
And where do you recommend? I am driving thru Ct next week.
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/06 12:05:47 (permalink)
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/06 12:31:06 (permalink)
    I have to say, I couldn't say what makes New Haven pizza better. I just know of all the bars and all the gin joints I've ever been in (oh sorry, movie mode right now....) I most vividly remember the a pizza being something I could consider moving for. I don't know if it was just the taste, the atmosphere, or what-------but having a pizza at Sally's, Frank Pepe's and a place in West Haven that might have been App's (I remember the waiter describing what Ischia was famous for on the map on the wall). More than I remember from New York or any place in L.A. Someday I've got to go back, just for apizza!
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/06 13:20:30 (permalink)
    So is it the clam pie, or any pie that is recommended? (Thanks)
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/06 13:22:09 (permalink)
    App's was a great place when it was in its original location in West Haven and run by the whole Apicella family. Fantastic lobsters, great steamers, and Italian food, too. Their new place (since the '70s) -- now it's called App's Ristorante -- has very good Italian food. I don't recall whether they have apizza.
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/06 15:06:53 (permalink)
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    App's was a great place when it was in its original location in West Haven and run by the whole Apicella family. Fantastic lobsters, great steamers, and Italian food, too. Their new place (since the '70s) -- now it's called App's Ristorante -- has very good Italian food. I don't recall whether they have apizza.

     
    Yeah, I wish I could remember if that was the place. We didn't want to wait in the line at Frank Pepe's one night so looked up a place near my friend's rental house in West Haven. I remember it was very good, I did get veal scallopini and then we split a good pizza. Just can't remember the name for sure!
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/06 15:09:12 (permalink)
    I honestly don't see the point. Have eaten in Connecticut and New York and New Jersey...and quality is in all three.....all I can see is "apizza" is a tease on an Italian's accent and how a non-Italian would hear it. ....But before someone tears me apart, it's just my thoughts....just as long as we don't frequent fast food pizza!!!(joke....NOT!)
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/06 19:23:38 (permalink)
    NYNM

    So is it the clam pie, or any pie that is recommended? (Thanks)

     
    If this old ex-New Yorker were to find myself in New Haven, White Clam Pizza at Frank Pepe's or Mary's apizza would be all I needed to make me a very happy camper.
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/06 19:26:26 (permalink)
    We have some damn good pizza in Dallas but, only one place that serves an authentic New Haven style white clam pizza.
     
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/06 20:02:59 (permalink)
    I will be having my first clam pie at Pepe's sometime after June 15.  Can't wait!  Even though I spent 14 years in Boston (loved the pizza at Santarpio's) I didn't have time to get to CT for pizza or anything else, for that matter!
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/06 20:25:12 (permalink)
    NYNM

    So remind me, what makes Connecticut pizzas special, what is different?
    And where do you recommend? I am driving thru Ct next week.
    Thanks.

    Because someone extolled it several years ago and it has stuck. It is really that simple. Nostalgia is a powerful influence. In regard to pizza, to get a grip on all this, reading Peter Reinhart's, American Pie: My Search for the Perfect Pizza could give you some introspection.
     
    Pizza can be had anywhere now in quality. There are no secrets or unknowns. Ingredients are few and broadly known. Pizza making equipment is now available everywhere and enough people have put all the knowledge together that it only comes down to how careful a pizzaiola wants to be.
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/06 22:30:56 (permalink)
    Ye,perfectly said, Davydd!!!
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/06 23:02:17 (permalink)
    Twinwillow

    We have some damn good pizza in Dallas but, only one place that serves an authentic New Haven style white clam pizza.


    Nonna? If there is another please let us know.
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/07 00:16:02 (permalink)
    Nope, no other than NONNA! 
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/07 07:43:10 (permalink)
    NYNM

    So remind me, what makes Connecticut pizzas special, what is different?
    And where do you recommend? I am driving thru Ct next week.
    Thanks.

    I moved here a couple of years ago, and have been exposed to some absolutely fantastic pizza!
     
    I was unfamiliar with "apizza", charred crusts, or this particular kind of tangy sauce, but now I know differently.  Here's a pie I recently had at Modern Apizza in New Haven - half "plain" with just tomato sauce, fresh minced garlic, grated cheese, and olive oil, half with spinach, garlic, and mozzarella. The "plain" blew me away; with crust and sauce that good, you don't even need a layer of cheese. I would have been quite content for the entire pie to be plain.  
     
    As far as my taste buds can tell, the Modern/Sally's/Frank Pepe trinity of New Haven have all earned their reputation. They are genuinely awesome. There are some other places that are also excellent, far less busy, and don't get as much attention, such as Zuppardi's in West Haven or Mulberry Street in Manchester.  Also, Colony Grill in Stamford is well worth investigating as its own strange delicious beast. 
     
    One note: if you do go to Frank Pepe, I recommend asking for your crust to be "lightly done" as they will char the heck out of it otherwise, even by CT standards, and that's certainly not for everyone.
     

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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/07 10:08:39 (permalink)
    If you go to Pepe's I would stick to the Clam or Plain apizza.  I have tried the mushroom (canned??) and the sausage and was not pleased.  Zuppardis Apizza in West Haven has the best sausage pizza I have ever eaten and also an excellent Clam Pie.
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/07 10:57:59 (permalink)
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    If you go to Pepe's I would stick to the Clam or Plain apizza.  I have tried the mushroom (canned??) and the sausage and was not pleased.  Zuppardis Apizza in West Haven has the best sausage pizza I have ever eaten and also an excellent Clam Pie.

    Zuppardi's has been featured on Serious Eats a few times.  I can confirm that their sausage is indeed exceptional.  
     
    http://slice.seriouseats....en-ct-connecticut.html
     

     
     
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/07 11:20:33 (permalink)
    That sausage pie looks AMAZING!
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/07 12:49:51 (permalink)
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    So remind me, what makes Connecticut pizzas special, what is different?
    And where do you recommend? I am driving thru Ct next week.
    Thanks.

    I moved here a couple of years ago, and have been exposed to some absolutely fantastic pizza!

    I was unfamiliar with "apizza", charred crusts, or this particular kind of tangy sauce, but now I know differently.  Here's a pie I recently had at Modern Apizza in New Haven - half "plain" with just tomato sauce, fresh minced garlic, grated cheese, and olive oil, half with spinach, garlic, and mozzarella. The "plain" blew me away; with crust and sauce that good, you don't even need a layer of cheese. I would have been quite content for the entire pie to be plain.  

    As far as my taste buds can tell, the Modern/Sally's/Frank Pepe trinity of New Haven have all earned their reputation. They are genuinely awesome. There are some other places that are also excellent, far less busy, and don't get as much attention, such as Zuppardi's in West Haven or Mulberry Street in Manchester.  Also, Colony Grill in Stamford is well worth investigating as its own strange delicious beast. 

    One note: if you do go to Frank Pepe, I recommend asking for your crust to be "lightly done" as they will char the heck out of it otherwise, even by CT standards, and that's certainly not for everyone.



     
    Now that's apizza!
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/07 13:01:55 (permalink)
    paulde: I agree about the mushroom pizza at Pepe's -- at least, the branch in Manchester.  I was very excited about ordering it -- it was my first and only time there; I've never been to the New Haven original --  but very disappointed by the execution. We took what was left over back to our B&B and found that it did not improve over time. And I say that as someone who loves cold pizza as a rule.
     
    Davydd:  A real sleeper for Twin Cities pizza:  DiGidio's in St. Paul.  It's an old-style Italian restaurant, and they only have one kind of pizza on the menu, in the appetizer category: Pizza Calabrese
    Olive oil, Italian sausage, bell peppers, red sauce and mozzarella.
    It costs $10, and can easily be split among two or more (especially if you have a salad and/or entree).  It is one of the best pizzas we've found in the area, much to our surprise.
     
     
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/07 13:05:42 (permalink)
    Here's the first CT pizza I had upon my arrival in May of 2012, at the Frank Pepe in Manchester - plain, with sausage, olive oil, extra garlic, and grated cheese.
     

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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/07 17:07:19 (permalink)
    And a pepperoni pie from Modern in New Haven
     

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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/17 09:33:07 (permalink)
    Happy to report, I had White Clam Pizza at Remo's in Stamford (close to NYC and a reason to return). It was DELICIOUS!! Very fresh clams, nice garlic flavor, great crust. Thanks folks.
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/17 22:31:04 (permalink)
    Had my first clam pie at Pepe's.  OMG  Best pizza, oh excuse me, apizza, that I've ever had.  Pictures when I do a CT trip report! 
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/18 00:30:41 (permalink)
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    Had my first clam pie at Pepe's.  OMG  Best pizza, oh excuse me, apizza, that I've ever had.  Pictures when I do a CT trip report! 

    I can hardly wait!
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/18 08:08:01 (permalink)
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    Had my first clam pie at Pepe's.  OMG  Best pizza, oh excuse me, apizza, that I've ever had.  Pictures when I do a CT trip report! 

    I concur, the singular best apizza I have ever eaten. However, we have been disappointed with the white clam at the Manchester location when we have stopped on our way to Maine. From now on, I will stick with New Haven, even though it is a bit of a detour.
     
    Are the various Pepe's all family owned and operated?
     
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/18 14:45:32 (permalink)
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    Had my first clam pie at Pepe's.  OMG  Best pizza, oh excuse me, apizza, that I've ever had.  Pictures when I do a CT trip report! 

    I concur, the singular best apizza I have ever eaten. However, we have been disappointed with the white clam at the Manchester location when we have stopped on our way to Maine. From now on, I will stick with New Haven, even though it is a bit of a detour.

    Are the various Pepe's all family owned and operated?


     
    Valleydoug, I have had the same experience at the Manchester location in the past.  Service was horrible, staff gathering around the counter stuffing food in their mouths, etc.  I stopped in recently and there has been a complete turn around.  Part of my double clam pie stuck to the oven.  When they brought it to my table it was heart shaped, I thought, Hey no big deal.  But they apologized and gave me another double clam pie to go.
     
    The one in Danbury has been very good.
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/18 14:47:24 (permalink)
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    Had my first clam pie at Pepe's.  OMG  Best pizza, oh excuse me, apizza, that I've ever had.  Pictures when I do a CT trip report! 

     
    Lisa, Glad to hear you enjoyed it.  Has MH stopped smiling yet? Joe
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/06/19 00:05:48 (permalink)
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    Had my first clam pie at Pepe's.  OMG  Best pizza, oh excuse me, apizza, that I've ever had.  Pictures when I do a CT trip report! 


    Lisa, Glad to hear you enjoyed it.  Has MH stopped smiling yet? Joe

    Nope.  He's glad to be back in CT!  And he loved his plain apizza.
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    Re:Connecticut Pizza 2014/07/12 21:46:25 (permalink)
    From my visit to Sally's tonight:
     

     
    Unbelievably good as always.  The friends I was with also had eggplant and bacon-and-onion pizzas, but I wasn't able to get pics of those.
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