Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers

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Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers

Consumer Reports ask 28,000 of their readers to rate burgers they bought on their last visit to a list of 18 Chain burger places. On a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the highest score. The Winner(s)???--In & Out Burgers and 5 Guys tied with an average score of 7.9
The 4 lowest???? -- Burger King, Jack in the Box and Krystal tied with a score of 6.3
and the lowest of the low-----McDonalds with a score of 5.6!
Source - Consumer Reports 10/10, Page 7
 
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    markolenski
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/08/31 20:29:17 (permalink)
    Does McDonalds still sell burgers?
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/08/31 20:41:08 (permalink)
    markolenski

    Does McDonalds still sell burgers?

    That's what they call them anyway...
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/08/31 20:47:51 (permalink)
    Surveys are weird. The real survey is who sells and McDonald's wipes out the competition in that regard. So, how does one reconcile that? Personally, I cannot get excited over any fast food chain burger. I just consider them all a convenience, a known commodity and they all taste like what they are - inexpensive shelf life preserved ingredients processed and cooked to keep cost down. There is something about the taste that says unreal whether you like the taste or not. Like accepting margarine over butter.  I'd rather take my chance on an independent bar/grill/restaurant for a burger.
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/01 00:59:58 (permalink)
    Just had my first 5 Guys burger and fries this weekend... I definitely prefer theirs to In-n-Out.. especially the fries! YUMMO!
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/01 03:25:36 (permalink)
    Davydd

    Surveys are weird. The real survey is who sells and McDonald's wipes out the competition in that regard. So, how does one reconcile that? Personally, I cannot get excited over any fast food chain burger. I just consider them all a convenience, a known commodity and they all taste like what they are - inexpensive shelf life preserved ingredients processed and cooked to keep cost down. There is something about the taste that says unreal whether you like the taste or not. Like accepting margarine over butter.  I'd rather take my chance on an independent bar/grill/restaurant for a burger.


    It wasn't a volume survey, it was a taste survey. McDonalds has over 14,000 outlets, In & Out has 247 & 5 Guys has 640. No valid comparison there. Granted, most Mom & Pops run circles around the Chains for taste & quality
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/01 05:36:22 (permalink)
    Decades of fast food living and growing up on McDonalds has created a society where many wouldn't know the real thing if they tasted it!!!
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/01 05:55:14 (permalink)
    I understand it was a taste survey but McDonalds doesn't grow into the behemoth it is because people supposedly don't like the taste of it's burger compared to it's competition. I suspect its survey rating is low because people just tend to be David vs Goliath in responding. Also newer always trumps the known. How else can one explain the meteoric rise in Krispy Kreme and it's just as sudden demise around the country? But like I alluded before they are all margarine to butter when it comes to burgers. Nothing to get excited about.
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/01 08:53:00 (permalink)
    I don't see any burgers on that list...
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/01 09:56:05 (permalink)
    Overall, Five Guys is an excellent product, but in my opinion, their buns are terrible.  Thin and very dry.  I'm not sure who has the worst buns: Five Guys or Wendy's.
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/01 10:12:06 (permalink)
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    Just had my first 5 Guys burger and fries this weekend... I definitely prefer theirs to In-n-Out.. especially the fries! YUMMO!

    Jennifer_4, I'm with you.  A 5 Guys just opened about 20 minutes from my house...oh, did I ever thank you for your suggestions way back when we visited NorCal?  You're awesome!    Chris
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/01 16:10:45 (permalink)
    leethebard

    Decades of fast food living and growing up on McDonalds has created a society where many wouldn't know the real thing if they tasted it!!!

    They did it by Consistancy and Marketing, Marketing and More Marketing. P.T. Barnum said it best!


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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/02 15:02:59 (permalink)
    If the beef Five Guys uses is so fresh and good, why do they cook them ONLY well done and use a heavy press to squeeze out what tiny bit of juicieness is left inside?  Great fries, though.
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/02 15:09:56 (permalink)
    johnlockedema

    If the beef Five Guys uses is so fresh and good, why do they cook them ONLY well done and use a heavy press to squeeze out what tiny bit of juicieness is left inside?  Great fries, though.

    Because they don't want to be sued for you dying from ingesting E coli from their Burgers! The government mandates that burgers be cooked well done. Write your Congressmen
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/02 16:39:12 (permalink)
    I've never had an un-juicy burger at Five Guys.  They were all top-notch delicious, but I'd like them on some better buns.
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/02 16:54:22 (permalink)
    Foodbme  The government mandates that burgers be cooked well done.

    Not true.  Edit to add: That is, the federal government doesn't mandate that.  Individual states, counties, municipalities may have such regs.
    post edited by Bruce Bilmes and Susan Boyle - 2010/09/02 16:57:21
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/02 17:45:32 (permalink)
    Bruce Bilmes and Susan Boyle

    Foodbme  The government mandates that burgers be cooked well done.

    Not true.  Edit to add: That is, the federal government doesn't mandate that.  Individual states, counties, municipalities may have such regs.

    I didn't state that the Federal Government mandated it. However the recommended cooking Temp. from the FDA that most Health Departments enforce is 155 degrees. From a HD Report:
    1. Hamburger cooked to 130° F on grill. (Discovery)
    3-401.11(A)(2) (Reg # governing Cooking Temps)

    Salmonella; E. coli (Possible Problems)
    68 °C (155 °F) Continue to cook until temperature is met  (Requirement needed to meet standard) 
    post edited by Foodbme - 2010/09/02 17:49:13
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/02 17:46:34 (permalink)
    MellowRoast

    I've never had an un-juicy burger at Five Guys.  They were all top-notch delicious, but I'd like them on some better buns.


    I'll agree with that...Love their burgers...and they're juicy enough to detroy the flimsy bun...I load mine up too...need a stronger roll...fries are super...love mine with the Heinz malt vinegar!!!
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/02 17:53:57 (permalink)
    I'm a malt vinegar monster, yet I didnt' spot any at Five Guys.  I'll look for it next time.  Love the stuff on most anything, including fries, and I even use it in my slaw. 
     
    I wish Five Guys had a drive-thru so I could avoid the bottomless bucket of peanuts.  Simply no willpower around those things. 
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/02 17:58:14 (permalink)
    Oh I know what you mean...our family eats a ballpark size helping of those delicious salted in the shell peanuts.....When we're done.our meal of burgers,fries and unlimited drinks and tons of peanuts(with some to go) was a steal!!
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/02 18:18:44 (permalink)
    Foodbme
     However the recommended cooking Temp. from the FDA that most Health Departments enforce is 155 degrees. From a HD Report:
    1. Hamburger cooked to 130° F on grill. (Discovery)
    3-401.11(A)(2) (Reg # governing Cooking Temps)

    Salmonella; E. coli (Possible Problems)
    68 °C (155 °F) Continue to cook until temperature is met  (Requirement needed to meet standard) 

    That's not quite right, because the reg you cite, 3-401.11(A)(2) applies except as specified in B, C, and D.  (D) is quoted below.  In essence, you can serve a rare burger, as long as you're not serving a susceptible population, i.e., a nursing home or hospital, for example, and also, that you warn your customers of the possible dangers (and no warning is even necessary if you obtain a variance).  The reason many restaurants still insist on cooking burgers well done is, they don't want to be sued, which would be a real possibility if they know their meat sources are questionable.
     
    (D)
    A raw animal food such as raw egg, raw fish, raw-marinated fish, raw molluscan shellfish, or steak tartare; or a partially cooked food such as lightly cooked fish, soft cooked eggs, or rare meat other than whole-muscle, intact beef steaks as specified in ¶ (C) of this section, may be served or offered for sale in a ready-to-eat form if:
     
  •  (1) The food establishment serves a population that is not a highly susceptible population, and
  • (2) The consumer is informed as specified under § 3-603.11 that to ensure its safety, the food should be cooked as specified under ¶ (A) or (B) of this section; or
  •  (3) The regulatory authority grants a variance from ¶ (A) or (B) of this section as specified in § 8-103.10 based on a HACCP plan that:
     
  • (a) Is submitted by the permit holder and approved as specified under § 8-103.11,
  • (b) Documents scientific data or other information showing that a lesser time and temperature regimen results in a safe food, and
  • (c) Verifies that equipment and procedures for food preparation and training of food employees at the food establishment meet the conditions of the variance.
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/02 21:49:42 (permalink)
    of the hundreds of thousands of surveys that have been done over the last 30 years,
    I've never been asked my opinion in any of them.
    I wonder how many Roadfooders participated in these polls?
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/03 17:07:08 (permalink)
    'We're from the government, and we're here to protect you'.  Hockey pucks don't make for good burgers.  Get your rare burger from a restaurant who has good hygiene and serves quality meat and you'll never have a food poisoning issue. 
     
    Five Guys also won't griddle your hot dog without cutting it open-no food issue there, since hot dogs are already cooked-but they still insist on doing that 'corporate policy'.  Ridiculous. 
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/03 17:13:31 (permalink)
    sk bob

    of the hundreds of thousands of surveys that have been done over the last 30 years,
    I've never been asked my opinion in any of them.
    I wonder how many Roadfooders participated in these polls?


    Did ya ever think that maybe there's a reason why no one is ever interested in your opinion????
    Roadfooders are a minute speck of the total population, BUT we make up a high percentage of people who know good food when we taste it!
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2010/09/04 14:44:34 (permalink)
    You can slice it and dice it and poll it anyway you want.
     
    If you are hungry and you are lucky enough to get a whopper at burger king right off the grill, it a pretty good "Fast" food burger, for the price in my mind. JMO.
     
    there use to be a time when you could ask Burger king for a whopper "Right Off The grill", I don't know if that's possible anymore.
     
    There are pleanty of good burger joints around as well.
     
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    I NEVER MET A BURGER I DIDN'T LIKE.
     
     
     
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2011/07/03 07:49:44 (permalink)
    MellowRoast

    I'm a malt vinegar monster, yet I didnt' spot any at Five Guys.  I'll look for it next time.  Love the stuff on most anything, including fries, and I even use it in my slaw. 



    They had malt vinegar at the two Five Guys restaurants I went to in Miami, along with little cups to put it in, like this one:
     

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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2011/07/03 08:14:50 (permalink)
    Getting back to the survey ...
     
    I looked at my issue of CR last night and found out that their survey is  dishonest.  One of the scoring criteria is "Speed." Rated slightly better than average: In-N-Out, Five Guys, Burgerville, Culver's, Back Yard Burgers, and Sonic.  All the rest, McDonald's & BK included, were rated average for speed.  I have been to 4 of the 6 "better than average" speed places and know that all are much slower that the true fast food places.  If people will lie about something that easily verifiable, they'll lie about the rest. 
     
    Toss all the results.  There is always too much ballot stuffing in CR surveys.
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2011/07/03 08:49:46 (permalink)
    In-N-Out would be my favorite of the chains. They also take pride in the assembly of the burger. You can actually take it home and open it. Five Guys crams them into a foil wrapper and shoves them into a bag leaving them in a sad state. Plus In-n-Out is one of the cleanest places you will ever eat. Thus said Five Guys is a very good burger with the potential to be great. As they grow I am sure quality will continue to fall. Only thing that keeps McDonald's around is the price, chicken nuggets for kids and the fries. Those things they call burgers are a joke. I cannot understand why BK is still around...Russ
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    Re:Consumer Reports Readers Rate Best Burgers 2011/07/03 09:54:08 (permalink)
    Within the last few weeks, In-N-Out Burger has opened the first 3 of 6 stores opening in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area. So far, I still can't get near one with out waiting over an hour in line. The Allen (Dallas) Texas store had the largest opening of any INO store in the company's history. But being that it's a holiday weekend and fairly quiet in Dallas, I feel today's the day!
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