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Re:Costco's new dogs 2009/04/25 14:59:21 (permalink)
Nice detective work, David!
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Re:Costco's new dogs 2009/04/25 15:36:01 (permalink)
Great job, David. Don't think we'll be hearing from Abie.
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Re:Costco's new dogs 2009/04/25 17:38:11 (permalink)
I posted my opinion of the New Polish Dogs further up this page of the thread.
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Re:Costco's new dogs 2009/04/25 20:01:08 (permalink)

I had my first and last of the new dogs today. Here in San Diego they are a only a few Costco’s. Most still have Hebrew National. The new dogs are larger but to me taste like a giant Oscar Meyer all beef. It was served hot but the inside was very wet and the favor profile is not something I liked. I ate half and threw the rest away. I just finished my email to Costco hoping they keep the Hebrew Nationals in most of our area stores.
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Re:Costco's new dogs 2009/04/26 06:54:22 (permalink)
I spoke with a manager at the Union Costco who said that he heard about the Kirkland dogs, but is not sure that his location would switch. For now they are still selling Hebrew National franks. I haven't seen nor tried the Kirkland dogs but I think my reaction will be similar to Markolenski's and the majority of the people from another site who didn't like these dogs.
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Re:Costco's new dogs 2009/04/26 14:06:07 (permalink)
Al, did you have Kirkland or Louies?
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Re:Costco's new dogs 2009/04/26 14:36:26 (permalink)
This thread has the potential to become another Gary, Indiana pizza saga. 
   
No one has yet identified who is making COSTCO's new franks. But, this article indicates the franks were/are sold at retail:
http://addictedtocostco.com/2009/04/16/kirkland-signature-hot-dogs-polish-sausages/
If some one could post the USDA plant number, we could have some more fun with this topic. 
  
Edited for brevity. 
post edited by David_NYC - 2009/04/27 13:14:05
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Louie's Franks Might Be Quite Good 2009/04/28 18:36:03 (permalink)
Coming home today, I stopped off at a supermarket in Alphabet City. They often sell products ignored by the local chains. This time I found some franks made by National Deli, Miami, Florida. Was I wrong about Abie? National is a non-kosher provisions house in Miami. Their USDA plant number is 6388.
 
I decided to hit the Internet archive to see what older pages of the All American web site looked like. Well, this image may have been Photoshopped, but it ties Louie's franks to being made in Brooklyn by Empire National:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070202170257/www.allamericanhotdog.com/hotdog_sales_images/packaging.jpg
 
The USDA plant number shown is 5386, which is Empire National's. The first five of the UPC code is 16672. I have a partially eaten Empire National salami in my refrigerator; only the numbers 16672 remain of the label.
 
If Louie is making Empire National products available to Miami area residents, good for him. Still no way to tell what spice formula they are using. Miami Don may enjoy them. Freshly delivered Empire National franks have an expiration date two months out.
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Re:Louie's Franks Might Be Quite Good 2009/04/28 18:56:57 (permalink)
Good work David. I'll see if I can verify for sure if the franks are from Empire National. I might have a contact there. And they do make franks with collagen casings. Maybe Abie is prohibited from stating the brand.
 
Until they closed, Tabatchnik's 1/3 lb kosher frank with casing was made by Empire National. It was the same recipe as the regular Empire National franks, only with casing and a different size. One of the owners of Tabatchnik's convinced Mr. Weinberg of Empire to make a special size for him.
 
It was a very good dog.
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Re:Louie's Franks Might Be Quite Good 2009/04/29 13:28:26 (permalink)
Although I didn't get to speak with the person from Empire National who has been helpful to me in the past, I did speak to someone else from the company who verified that Louie's All American Kosher franks are indeed Empire National hot dogs that are shipped to Florida from Brooklyn, N.Y.

Our friend Abie would have had some credibility if he stated that right off the bat. Perhaps he is like many other people who want to convey that they are selling something special that you can only get from them.

I can say that I've had Empire National kosher franks both skinless and with a collagen casing. They are available at a few places near me, namely Seroff's in Irvington and Zayda's in South Orange. Unfortunately these places only sell skinless franks. The guy I spoke with said that you can have a place that sells their franks order a package of them with casing for you if they don't already offer them.

Now that I know the brand, I can say with certainty that Louie's All American Kosher franks are a top notch hot dog. But Abie, don't let that stop you from shipping me some!
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Re:Louie's Franks Might Be Quite Good 2009/04/30 01:02:09 (permalink)
Outstanding, John! Another case solved. Now there is no reason for the New Jersey COSTCO's to switch to that Kirkland dog.
 
Even the Professionals started a thread about Louie's last year:
http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/tm.aspx?high=&m=424223
 
Abie advertised on that thread as well.
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Re:Louie's Franks Might Be Quite Good 2009/05/14 17:53:31 (permalink)
I was at the Costco's in Edison NJ today and the Hebrew National Dogs are alive and well, with no known plans to change (although I'm not sure they would have told me otherwise if they were planning to change).  
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Re:Louie's Franks Might Be Quite Good 2010/03/07 16:34:32 (permalink)
FWIW, someone posted information on that addictedtocostco blog post I referenced above that the Kirkland Signature All Beef dogs are made by J & B Sausage Company in a plant in Texas. J & B does a lot of private label.

The COSTCO magazine did a followup to the story posted earlier in this thread. Included was a statement from COSTCO's VP of Food Service. The followup can be found here:
http://www.costcoconnection.com/connection/200905/?pg=69#pg69

I believe that in many parts of the country where COSTCO does business, people may prefer the taste of COSTCO's private label dog, since it will be closer to what they buy in the supermarket than to the Hebrew National New York Kosher dog.
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Re:Costco's new dogs 2010/03/09 03:49:34 (permalink)
I just want to clarify that not all COSTCO snack bars are using the Kirkland private-label dog these days. The Hebrew National is still being used in many COSTCO snack bars.
 
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Re:Costco's new dogs 2010/03/09 06:16:56 (permalink)
Hebrew Nationals are still being served at the Union Costco.
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Re:Costco's new dogs 2010/03/10 21:20:20 (permalink)
The hot dogs served at the Chicago Costco (Lincoln Park) are produced by USDA 1.  USDA 1 is Vienna Beef.

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