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BackRhodes
Double Cheeseburger
2012/02/02 22:57:59
Looking at the current poll (which food place you'd want in your town?)...
 
Is the "Pepe's Pizza a CHAIN store...???  Is it someplace "back east"...???
 
I know of a Pepe's that used to exist on Telegraph ave in Berkeley many decades ago, and I iamgine a name like that is fairly common one...
 
Is Louis Mueller the sausage guy in Texas...???
 
I live in the boonies and have never been to or really know anything about the choices listed...
 
My suggestion for those who have the power to create polls: is to make the choices more common, more widely known by "non experts"...
CajunKing
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/02 23:04:55
Pepe's is a FAMOUS CT Pizza Joint
http://www.pepespizzeria.com/
 
Louis Mueller's Place
http://www.louiemuellerbarbecue.com/
 
I chose Mueller's cause i can get good chicken, decent pizza but BBQ forget it.
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/02 23:11:06
These topics about the poll questions remind me of an episode of Twilight Zone.

Henry Beamis wanted time to read his beloved books. When the bomb hit and he stumbled upon the library full of books...happy day!!! All the time in the world and plenty of books. But then...his glasses broke.

BackRhodes
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 00:11:56
Beamis was played by Burgess Merideth... excellent episode...
 
I've seen Muellers on TV shows...never been there, but it IS on my "to go to" list...
 
Probably hundreds of "Pepe's Pizza" in North America...assuming that folks would know about a particular "FAMOUS CT Pizza Joint" is presumptive at best, IMHO... 
 
Perhaps those that create polls will take this into account...it limits the universal appeal of a poll that might be read by folks around the world...
 
post edited by BackRhodes - 2012/02/07 00:13:53
saps
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 00:40:34
Pepe's pizza is probably one of the best known pizza places in the country.  It's been on several TV shows, highlighted on several food websites, listed in Zagat's guide and moreover, is pretty widely known on the Roadfood website.  A simple Google search takes you right to it.
BackRhodes
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 00:56:28
Hummm....Cowboy hillbillies like me don't own a "Zagat's Guide" ... 
 
Why would I google a place I've never heard of (think about that for a moment) ...
 

BuddyRoadhouse
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 00:57:06
BackRhodes
Probably hundreds of "Pepe's Pizza" in North America...assuming that folks would know about a particular "FAMOUS CT Pizza Joint" is presumptive at best, IMHO... 

But they're not assuming that just any old "folks would know about a particular 'FAMOUS CT Pizza Joint'".  They're assuming that Roadfood folks will know about Pepe's Pizza, and, except apparently for you, they are correct.  Even this provincial, hometown oriented, Chicago Style Pizza lovin' boy knows about Pepe's.
 
Judging by your first post in this thread, I think you've missed the point of the poll.  It is a fantasy wish list of some of the best Roadfood joints that are highly unlikely to ever open up outside their original locations.  That is the point.  None of them are chains, and that is what fuels the fantasy.  Stroud's fried chicken in Chicago?  I'd eat there twice a week!  Louis Mueller in my back yard?  Sign me up for sausage and brisket the rest of the week.  Voodoo Doughnut?  Let's go for dessert after fried chicken and 'Que!
 
So just pick one and dream.
 
Buddy
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 01:02:05
Burgess Meredith was also the Penguin. If " The Penguin" was in the pole that would be a potential poll stumper.
BackRhodes
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 01:19:28
Buddy...I'm just about as far west as you can get without getting wet...
 
Does being a part of this webby site as a "roadfooder" automatically confer divine knowledge about places  you've never heard of or been to...???
 
Perhaps for some...I'm just a country bumpkin...not an all knowing roadfood Elite...
 
Stumpers...yup...polls can be created that include stumpers nobody understands, which seems pointless...oh well...
post edited by BackRhodes - 2012/02/07 01:22:49
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 01:31:27
Nah...just a riddle. More than one Roadfood Penguin Drive-in. There are fun things to learn about places on Roadfood. No matter where you live....you can explore Roadfood.
BackRhodes
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 02:11:13
I agree...lots to explore and learn...I'm just amazed at the assumptions that are sometimes made...
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 02:26:39
Ok say we are on a site devoted to music. There is a poll about songs. Somebody says they do not know any songs by The Rolling Stones or The Beatles. What is the solution?
BuddyRoadhouse
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 02:29:08
Rhodey,
You're still missing the point.  Yes, a lot of the members here come in with existing knowledge of well known Roadfood joints.  But none of us knows it all.  Even the Sterns are on a constant journey looking for new places worthy of the Roadfood designation.
 
If not for my association with the people on this site, I might never have known about Sokolowski's or Babushka's Kitchen in Cleveland.  I would never have found out about Speed Queen BBQ or Sobelman's in Milwaukee.  Tessaro's and Fat Head's Saloon in Pittsburgh?  Without buffetbuster, I would have missed out on one of the best hamburgers of my life, not to mention the South Side Slopes Sandwich (Google it).
 
The point is, we all come here to exchange ideas and experiences about Roadfood.  If you're automatically going to take the attitude that you're a "country bumpkin" (your words, not mine), so why bother learning anything about anything, then what the heck are you doing here?  If you're stumped by something here, or anywhere, then heck yeah look it up.  Or ask the question right here.  But don't do it in such a way that makes the whole rest of the world out to be crazy just because something seems odd to you.  Try a genuine, heartfelt inquiry that shows you're really interested in expanding your horizons.
 
From your initial post: "Make the choices more common, more widely known by "non experts"...  Dude, that's exactly what the overwhelming majority of Roadfooders are trying to avoid.  We don't want the common and widely known.  We're looking for the off-the-beaten-path-nobody-knows-about places that are unique, one of a kind experiences.
 
And before I start hearing all that nonsense about chasing people away, believe me, I want nothing more than for BackRhodes to stick around so he can learn about places like Pepe's and Stroud's, and maybe someday check 'em out first hand.  And if, for some reason, you can't get to those places yourself, at least enjoy them vicariously through other people's reports.
 
I mean, that's the point of being on a site called "Roadfood", isn't it?
 
Buddy
BackRhodes
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 02:50:26
I appreciate the energy you put into your reply...but...
 
Unless there is a certain level of "commonality" then it possible becomes jibberish...
 
If "Roadfoodies", et al (as you say) are trying to AVOID choices more common, more widely known by "non experts" ... then aren't you just "preaching to the (select) choir"... and bypassing novices, newcomers, and those who've never heard of these places...???  In what way would that be inclusive...???
BuddyRoadhouse
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 03:44:13
It is inclusive in that it is a community of people with a common interest.  We all come to that community with different backgrounds and different levels of knowledge in that common interest.  We try to share information so as to expand our own personal knowledge and experience.  If you reject the sharing of that information, because you didn't already possess that knowledge, then it is your loss and you have no business criticizing others who are willing to put a little effort into the process.
 
How are we "preaching to the choir"?  That expression insinuates that everyone is on the same page with the same beliefs and no dissension.  That is certainly not the case here.  As I said, we do have a common interest, but each of us has different life experiences, and approaches Roadfood from a different starting point.  In my previous post, I mentioned six places that I had no knowledge of prior to reading about them here at Roadfood.  Those six places are just the tip of the iceberg; a handful of examples of the dozens, perhaps hundreds of Roadfood restaurants that I have learned about thanks to this site and the people who populate it.
 
If you're spending time on this site, then presumably you have an interest in the topics being discussed here.  Even if you're a newcomer or novice, the only reason to be here is to get past that novice stage.  But it can't all be spoon fed to you.  If you haven't heard of the places listed in the poll, and you're interested in Roadfood, then you need to do a little research.  Do you seriously want to be mollycoddled?  You need to contribute to the expansion of your own knowledge base.  You don't even need to go very far to get the information: All six of the poll choices are reviewed and discussed extensively right here on Roadfood!
 
BackRhodes, I sincerely hope you will someday get something of value from this site.  But in looking at your profile and some of the threads you have started, I'm starting to wonder if you're not the single most successful, longest running troll to ever visit Roadfood.  "What's for LUNCH?", "What's for BREAKFAST?", and (dear God, I love this one) "What's on TV?" are three of your more recent threads.  And most astonishingly, you got a string of legitimate answers from some long time posters!!!  Holy mackerel!  Maybe I am the one who's got it backwards!
 
The more I look at this, the more I think you're playing us.  But if you are here with a genuine interest in joining the conversation and being part of the community, you'll need to knock off the "Poor little me, I don't know nuthin', so drop the level of conversation to my speed" attitude.
 
Buddy
post edited by BuddyRoadhouse - 2012/02/07 03:46:20
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 03:54:51
I cried real tears when Mrs. Cho found her daughter on Smile, Donghae!!!

Stroud's uses soybean oil in a cast iron pan. I saw that on Man vs. Food.
post edited by CCinNJ - 2012/02/07 03:58:31
BuddyRoadhouse
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 04:18:23
Anna Laker looks a little young to be Dong-hae's mother, don't you think?  They both look like teenagers.
 
See what a little internet research will get you?
 
Buddy
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 04:41:57
The fact that they were both raised in Brooklyn and went to Korea just for a skating match without the accents??? That is something.

brisketboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 08:52:14
I'm gettin' a headache.
Greymo
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 09:19:03
BackRhodes

Hummm....Cowboy hillbillies like me don't own a "Zagat's Guide" ... 

Why would I google a place I've never heard of (think about that for a moment) ...



 
You would "google" it to find out about it!

billyboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 09:26:53
Well said, Buddy!  I wish I could be as articulate as you.
1bbqboy
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 10:52:34
I tried to check Olive Garden and then Foster's Freeze but the poll wouldn't let me. Damn.
BTW, Buddy you wouldn't have found out about In-A-Tub without this site either.:) Maybe Smokestack Lightening will weigh in. 
post edited by 1bbqboy - 2012/02/07 10:55:30
billyboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 10:55:42
I went with Strouds as buffetbuster has photos from there in one of his trip reports a few years back that I still pull up and drool over from time to time!
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 11:07:42
I vote for Stroud's as long as they bring their own chickens. Something special about those chickens vs. NYC chickens.
BuddyRoadhouse
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 13:20:45
You know, at least according to their T-shirts, they choke their own chickens.
 
It's true!
 
Buddy
BuddyRoadhouse
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 13:27:24
bbqboy,
You are correct, it was a discussion of In-A-Tub Tacos here on Roadfood that had me eating the bright yellow, powdered "cheese" one fateful Kansas City afternoon.  I followed my own advice and ordered a single taco that my wife and I split.
 
Best decision I ever made.
 
Buddy
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 13:32:24
It takes different strokes to move the world!!

Stroud's it is!
pnwchef
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 15:48:21
If you live in the Pacific Northwest, Deli's are far and few between. My vote was for Katz's Deli. That would be my pick in a heartbeat, You can't get that kind of food in my area, and I haven't been yelled at in a deli for over 30 years..............I miss it.................pnwc
BuddyRoadhouse
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 16:26:50
CC, you're a naughty girl.
 
Thank you.
 
Buddy
wanderingjew
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 18:55:07
pnwchef

If you live in the Pacific Northwest, Deli's are far and few between. My vote was for Katz's Deli. That would be my pick in a heartbeat, You can't get that kind of food in my area, and I haven't been yelled at in a deli for over 30 years..............I miss it.................pnwc

 
That's ok, Jewish Delis are far and few  between in NYC too.  If you want to get yelled at now - good luck- that doesn't happen  any  more unless you piss off the African American, Hispanic or Asian counter person or waitstaff.
Twinwillow
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 19:22:09
In all of Dallas we have only 2-1/2 Jewish deli's. One pretty damn good (Deli-News). One just, OK (Gio's). And one that, half thinks they're a Jewish deli (Cindy's).
 
So of course, I want a Katz's in Dallas!
Greymo
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 19:23:38
We are fortunate to have a wonderful Jewish deli in Baltimre............everything there is terrific. 
 
On the sad side, we have no outstanding  pizza (my opinion)  so I voted for Pepe's Pizza  which I just love.
Twinwillow
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/07 19:23:55
brisketboy

I'm gettin' a headache.

 
LMAO!
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/08 00:29:51
BuddyRoadhouse

CC, you're a naughty girl.

Thank you.

Buddy

 
You're welcome.
buffetbuster
Porterhouse
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 08:32:56
Right now, I'm wishing we still had the rating system, because BuddyRoadhouse has some five star posts in this thread!
 
Those are six fine Roadfood destinations in the poll, but Stroud's was an easy choice for me.  I can't even imagine having a Stroud's near home.  I probably would have been dead by 30, but would have gone out with a smile on my face!
MetroplexJim
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 08:47:40
Twinwillow

In all of Dallas we have only 2-1/2 Jewish deli's. One pretty damn good (Deli-News). One just, OK (Gio's). And one that, half thinks they're a Jewish deli (Cindy's).

So of course, I want a Katz's in Dallas!


I think Cindy is a native of Vietnam. 
 
I miss the Deli-News that was just off Preston, south of the LBJ.
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 08:54:49
Thank you BuddyRoadhouse!!

MetroplexJim
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 09:17:44
I can't understand complaints about "not knowing" the places in the poll.  My goodness, if we're on Roadfood we are also on the internet!  Do a simple search if you are curious.
 
The only one I didn't know was Central Grocery.  Searching on Roadfood:  http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Overview.aspx?RefID=122  Now I know.
 
Russ Byler, my HS chemistry teacher, always used to say "The mark of the educated man is not what he knows; it is that he knows where and how to find that which he does not know".
MetroplexJim
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 09:22:00
BTW:  if I were making the list I would have included Prince's Hot Chicken (Nashville) and Wilber's (Goldsboro, NC). 
 
In their absence I voted for Stroud's.
BackRhodes
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 15:05:55
BuddyRoadhouse   I followed my own advice and ordered a single taco that my wife and I split.

Best decision I ever made.    


1 taco...2 people...was the taco that huge...or that bad...???
 
Even though I'm mostly Irish, I'm laughing with a Mexican accent...
 
I've heard it said that IF California had a regional food, it would be the taco...and I'm good with that, amigos...
post edited by BackRhodes - 2012/02/09 15:08:55
CajunKing
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 16:09:04
BuddyRoadhouse

BackRhodes
Probably hundreds of "Pepe's Pizza" in North America...assuming that folks would know about a particular "FAMOUS CT Pizza Joint" is presumptive at best, IMHO... 

But they're not assuming that just any old "folks would know about a particular 'FAMOUS CT Pizza Joint'".  They're assuming that Roadfood folks will know about Pepe's Pizza, and, except apparently for you, they are correct.  Even this provincial, hometown oriented, Chicago Style Pizza lovin' boy knows about Pepe's.

Judging by your first post in this thread, I think you've missed the point of the poll.  It is a fantasy wish list of some of the best Roadfood joints that are highly unlikely to ever open up outside their original locations.  That is the point.  None of them are chains, and that is what fuels the fantasy.  Stroud's fried chicken in Chicago?  I'd eat there twice a week!  Louis Mueller in my back yard?  Sign me up for sausage and brisket the rest of the week.  Voodoo Doughnut?  Let's go for dessert after fried chicken and 'Que!

So just pick one and dream.

Buddy

 
Then I want a BURT'S Pizza here in Indiana with a particular Saturday server included.
CajunKing
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 16:10:57
CCinNJ

Ok say we are on a site devoted to music. There is a poll about songs. Somebody says they do not know any songs by The Rolling Stones or The Beatles. What is the solution?

 
Do as I did and google the places to post so others can enjoy the information.
BuddyRoadhouse
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 17:37:41
BackRhodes

BuddyRoadhouse   I followed my own advice and ordered a single taco that my wife and I split.

Best decision I ever made.    


1 taco...2 people...was the taco that huge...or that bad...???

The second option.
 
Buddy
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 18:14:19
Hey the research thing worked! I know who the server was! I know who the server was!
BuddyRoadhouse
Filet Mignon
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 18:26:29
Keep it under your hat.
 
Buddy
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 18:31:37
I'll file it with the kimchi secrets I picked up recently...from Taebong kimchi factory.
Foodbme
Porterhouse
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/09 22:58:37
Polls may come and polls may go but don't forget-----
There's still a lot of Poles in Cleveland!!!!
Twinwillow
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/10 10:23:16
MetroplexJim

Twinwillow

In all of Dallas we have only 2-1/2 Jewish deli's. One pretty damn good (Deli-News). One just, OK (Gio's). And one that, half thinks they're a Jewish deli (Cindy's).

So of course, I want a Katz's in Dallas!


I think Cindy is a native of Vietnam. 

I miss the Deli-News that was just off Preston, south of the LBJ.

 
Cindy is Vietnamese. She started with one small place in Plano and now has about five "deli's" including a branch downtown. Btw, the guy who used to own Gilbert's works for her.
 
Deli-News first started at Arapaho and Hillcrest. Then moved to Frankford just east of the Tollway. They've been at their current location, Preston and Campbell for about 8 years.
And, they're still the best in Dallas!
post edited by Twinwillow - 2012/02/10 10:25:07
BackRhodes
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/10 16:13:42
I still feel that this poll in question was created, and aimed at "insiders", and was too specific for places that somebody "back east" might (or might not) know about these places...
 
Sorry folks, but I still DO see a level of "elite", and those who are non elite here...
 
I'm just a normal guy...trying to learn more...but what I come away with is an impression that some come off as "how stupid you are to not know of these places" or "how dare you not be as knowledgable as us"...
 
How could I *not* know of these places...???
 
I'm SO far west that we think of RENO as being "back east"...
 
I've never heard of those places...never been to them...and what I get is "how dumb of you to not google them" ...
 
I think in the future I'll just ignore the polls...I'm not a member of the all knowing food elite...many of the elements here are geared to folks back east where due to severe population density there's more food places to talk about, and more closely packed together with less driving distance...
CajunKing
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/10 17:22:23
BackRhodes
 
If my post about googling came across as calling you dumb, my sincere apologies, not my intention.
 
Part of RF is the discovery and how we get there.
 
I used to travel a lot and know many of these places from being there.  I have also read and used the RF books since I discovered them in the late 80's.
 
If I come across a place I am not familiar with, I search it here or google and try to find a website for the place.  MANY of the small mom & pops dont have a web page, but many are learning and you see them popping up more and more.
 
As for being far to the west, I was once so far south in LA we thought NOLA was in the NORTH.
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/10 20:40:58

"Downhome instead of upscale...???  More good & funky instead of "exotic"...???  Plate lickin' good, not "fru fru" food...??"

You got the Roadfood concept. Have a good trip!



 


billyboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/11 01:01:05
Hey BackRhodes!  Welcome to Roadfood (somewhat belatedly)! 
 
BackRhodes 

I still feel that this poll in question was created, and aimed at "insiders", and was too specific for places that somebody "back east" might (or might not) know about these places...
I'm curious as to what you mean by "specific".  Could you elaborate?  NOTE:  The RF Poll has a very limited layout so it's just about impossible for the team to create a poll that will include a massive multitude of choices.  Do any restaurants come to mind that you wish you had seen in the poll?  It seems you feel there is an "east" or East Coast" slant to the site.  Only 2 of the 6 in the poll are on the East Coast though being from California I could see how you would view 5 of them as "east".  There will always be a place or places that some people have never heard of.  Nine years ago I had never even heard of the word "Roadfood" but I have learned an awful lot since I joined in 2005.  Much of that has been through asking questions, getting involved and playing an active role in my own Roadfood education.   I carry a notebook with me and if I see a place, read about a place I write it down for future reference and add it to a Master List I keep of places I'd eventually like to try.  
 
The debate about whether or not there is an "eastern" slant to the site crops up every so often.  For my 2 cents the answer is yes...and no.  Most if not all of the Roadfood team is based in the Northeast so they spend a lot of time there and as a result they have more opportunity to explore those regions.  However, they also travel extensively and explore food ALL across the U.S.  Lots of Digest reports, Trip Reports and Restaurant Reviews (there are 118 reviews in CA and a number of them in Berkeley and San Francisco) from all states.  So there is definitely West Coast representation! This might be a great opportunity for you be be an ambassador for the local food/restaurants in your area.  If your region is not a destination (or is a town on the way to elsewhere) or just doesn't get a lot of visitors, letting people know about the great eats there and the great sites/activities might be just the thing to get RFers interested in checking it out.  To paraphrase Aerosmith:  "Roadfood is a journey, not a destination".  We all can learn and discover something new.  

Sorry folks, but I still DO see a level of "elite", and those who are non elite here...
Could you elaborate on this?  I get the impression that you feel excluded from the "discussion", as it were.  An aside:  I started distance running about 2 years ago and when I showed up to my the first big race (the one which got me interested in the first place!) I looked around the starting line area and saw thousands of runners who looked in far better shape than me, who had clearly been running for years and decades, and compared to the 7 months I had been running I began to feel overwhelmed and out of place.  Many groups were speaking to each other fluently in terms like "negative splits", "PR", "IT Band", etc that I was just beginning to learn and I asked myself, Do I really belong here?"  
 
My point is that I didn't feel as though the running community was excluding me in any way but rather that what I was feeling was a reflection of my own self doubts and insecurities.  We all have them and that's okay.  The trick is to move past them.  I certainly don't think of myself as a Roadfood elite but I do feel I know a great deal about food.  I constantly have friends say to me, "How do YOU know about that restaurant?" or "How do YOU know about that regional food?".  My reply is always the same.  "Food is something I love and care about very much and I make it my business to know about these things!"  My friend say they get hungry when I talk food with them because I get really excited and passionate about it when I describe it.
 
Elite seems to me more a "state of mind" than anything.  Roadfood is the kind of site where you get out of it what you put into it.  I'm glad you posted but I wish you had asked more about those places in order to learn more about them rather than assume you were being left out.  The more you learn the less you'll feel left out.  If I came across a poll that listed restaurants or regional foods that I had never heard of my gut reaction wouldn't be that the "elite" were excluding me but rather, "Wow, what's THAT about?  I should find out more about it!"  And yes, that has actually happened to me on several occasions!

I'm just a normal guy...trying to learn more...but what I come away with is an impression that some come off as "how stupid you are to not know of these places" or "how dare you not be as knowledgable as us"...
How could I *not* know of these places...???
Certainly there are many people in the world who are not into food and there are plenty of people new to Roadfood every day.  It wouldn't be surprising to hear that you hadn't been to any of the restaurants in the poll.  Traveling is not cheap and very few Roadfooders can do it on a regular basis.  I think what was surprising to some of the posters is that you have been a member for about 8 months and have posted over 400 times and yet had not heard of any of the restaurants listed in the poll and they are 6 of the most widely discussed and commonly known restaurants on the site.  I have relatives who live in a very small town, no TV, computer, cell phone or answering machine in their lives and they like it that way.  They've never heard of Roadfood and don't really travel beyond their neighboring counties.  If they somehow saw the RF poll and had never heard of those restaurants it wouldn't be surprising.  

I'm SO far west that we think of RENO as being "back east"...
That's just geography.  You're only a few mouse clicks away from all of the food/restaurant information you could ever want.  

I've never heard of those places...never been to them...and what I get is "how dumb of you to not google them" ...
I don't think they were suggesting that you Google places you had never heard of but rather that you Google them once you HAD heard of them (i.e. - after you saw them listed in the poll).

I think in the future I'll just ignore the polls...I'm not a member of the all knowing food elite...many of the elements here are geared to folks back east where due to severe population density there's more food places to talk about, and more closely packed together with less driving distance...

I really don't feel that there is a food elite here but a group of people who are super passionate about Roadfood.  If you ever have any questions about food or restaurants on the site there are plenty of folks more than happy to help out an I'll answer anything I can as best I can.  All you have to do is ask.  If there are unheralded places in your area you feel merit more attention or you'd like to see on the site, e-mail the Roadfood team and let them know.  If you can, grab a camera and submit a review/trip report of places you've been that you think your fellow RFers should know about.  You've got the power, you just have to decide to use it!  
 
Just some info I thought you'd find helpful:
Pepe's Pizzeria Napoletana - New Haven, CT
Katz's Delicatessen - New York, NY
Central Grocery - New Orleans, LA
Stroud's - Kansas City, MO
Louie Mueller's - Taylor, TX
Voodoo Doughnuts - Portland, OR
Take a look at the restaurants section (by state) and drool over the pics!
 
I saw your post in the Eat & Greets section about the CA food tour.  Awesome!  I hope you can find some folks to get together and check it out.  I've found a lot of times that it becomes necessary to put together a fairly specific itinerary to get people on board otherwise everyone waits for someone else to put it together.  
 
post edited by billyboy - 2012/02/11 01:21:00
BackRhodes
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/11 05:12:19
Howdy BillyBoy...
Thankyou for your thoughts...
 
I've attempted to post reviews with pictures, but apparently one of the requirements I can not meet is using yoyr REAL name...I'm a public figure in the broadcast industry, and while I don't mind using a psuedonem, I don't use my real name in public...I keep a bit of a buffer...it's not like I'm a big time broadcaster, but absolut eprivacy i sa concern and goal, so according to a moderator I can't post conventional reviews unless I use my real name...(I also do part time railroad work, and that's a rough crowd, just like loggers and cowboys)
 
Too bad,,,there are a few places I've visited, and have made review like comments elsewhere in the forums, including photos when I can...
 
I'm trying to contribute, even though I'd prefer to be able to do a normal review post...
 
I was also told that unless I absolute RAVE about a place for the initial review it won't get posted...according to the very limited choice of ranking, it wasn't high enough...even though I thought it was a better than average ranking...
 
I won't lie and give a place a false ranking...the palces I wanted to post a review on were about a 7 on a scale of 10, which IS better than average, but there was only 4 or 5 choices presented during the ranking process to create a review...and unless it's the very TOP ranking it won't be posted according to Bruce Blimes...
 
I mentioned to the  moderator that I though this method of so few choices was limiting...a on esize fits all might be an ill fit at times...
 
What would I consider places as deserving the very TOP ranking without hesitation...???
 
The Officers Club at Treasure Island, the Officers Club at the Presidio (both of which no longer exist), the Officers Club at Alameda NAS, the Officers Club at Fallon NAS, and the Officers Cub at Beale AFB...  
 
There are a few other places of note IHMO that somebody a few hours south of me pronounced as mediocre...
 
As for the west coast food safari, I'm still asking for suggestions, and have continued to do research on my own...
 
It's hard to do an itinerary without knowing if folks would rather do a quick "eat it & beat it" or a more relaxed journey with sight seeings time included...I asked for opinions but really didn't get a response...and while I'd like to do this with others, be sociable and meet folks, I have no problem doing this solo either...
 
I sometimes watch DDD and make a list of places he visits along certain routes or cities...
 
I've organised chili contests in the desert before, but have not put a road trip together...
 
Have camera...will travel...
 
billyboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/11 06:43:56
BackRhodes, I hear ya on the privacy thing.  I'm an actor though lack of privacy has never been an issue for me.  Not quite hitting the red carpet...yet!  They do ask for the real name so they can verify the legitimacy of the reviewer as there are people out there in cyberspace with an axe to grind and it'd be near impossible to know who wrote a review with an agenda in mind.  I write reviews from time to time but I'm more into Trip Reports as I can discuss more at length and get more creative with my writing as well as incorporate interesting non-food topics and photos into the reports.  The running has become a co-theme in most of my reports in the past couple of years.  
 
When I first started on Roadfood Bruce hold told me the same thing about the first review being a rave.  I get it as the idea is to inform people who come to the site about places that Roadfooders would REALLY want them to try as opposed to places that are hit or miss.  Now, follow-up reviews can be positive or negative.
 
As far as a food safari, that might be a bit much for people who've never met you.  They may just want to get together at a local RF establishment where everyone can relax, get to know one another over a meal and then see if the whole group or part of the group gels and wants to meet up again for a longer adventure.  Perhaps toss out 2-3 dates that work for you and suggest a particular restaurant and see who bites?
 
I've gotten to know many people on here by posting a lot about my food adventures (solo and with friends) and replying to others' posts about their trips.  Once you get to know people on the site and they get to know you, you'll find those with whom you have the same tastes and share common interests.  I think that is how a great many people on this site came to know one another.  I found that Buffetbuster, ayersian, The Travelin' Man, cecif and many others enjoyed some of my writing and I've enjoyed theirs and as a happy result we have had the opportunity to break bread on many occasions.  
 
Happy Eating!!
post edited by billyboy - 2012/02/11 06:47:11
ann peeples
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/11 18:45:11
Somewhere someone said they had a headache- I do, too, now. I learned about sooooooooooo many well appointed restaurants here, so I followed a link or looked them up indepedantly.
mar52
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/11 21:05:14
What I've found interesting is that except for a few well known names, those that actually write reviews that get published... I've never heard of these people.
 
Meaning, either I don't know their on screen IDs or these people only do reviews and don't participate in the forums.  Really doesn't matter but I like knowing who the reviewer is.
 
I submitted one review, one time.   I don't like defeat.
 
Maybe if I didn't end sentences with prepositions.
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/12 01:20:28
I nominate Peter Luger to represent in the next fantasy poll.
billyboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/12 17:21:21
In my Roadfood fantasy, all of the following places would come to NYC and they'd all have their best rendition of their classic foods and of course the atmosphere would come right along with it because hey, it's my fantasy.  Naturally, the prices would be the same as they are in their region of origin.  Like a skier who mentally runs the course in his mind before his first run I have imagined myself at these places and pictured what I would order many, many times...FOOD NERD!!
1.)  Bobcat Bite - Santa Fe, NM
2.)  Prince's Hot Chicken - Nashville, TN
3.)  Lexington Barbecue #1 - Lexington, NC
4.)  Philippe the Original - Los Angeles, CA
5.)  Zingerman's Deli AND Zingerman's Roadhouse - Ann Arbor, MI
6.)  Blue Ash Chili - Cinncinati, OH
7.)  Hell's Kitchen - Minneapolis, MN
8.)  Primanti Bros. - Pittsburgh, PA
9.)  Tony Luke's - Philadelphia, PA
10.)  Al's #1 Italian Beef - Chicago, IL (While Broooklyn style roast beef sandwiches are mighty tasty, Italian beef sandwiches look so intense I think I'd swoon)
11.)  Doe's Eat Place - Greenville, MS
12.)  Gray Bros. Cafeteria - Mooresville, IN (I've never eaten in a cafeteria style restaurant)
13.)  Hoosier Mama Pie Co. - Chicago, IL
14.)  Nick's Kitchen - Huntington, IN
15.)  Bon Ton Mini Mart - Henderson, KY
16.)  Sunrise Biscuit Kitchen - Chapel Hill, CA (I have yet to find a respectable biscuit in the Northeast!)
17.)  Hominy Grill - Charleston, SC
18.)  White House Sub Shop - Atlantic City, NJ (What I wouldn't do for a decent, reasonably priced sub shop in Manhattan)
19.)  Jimmy Buff's - West Orange, NJ (I'd probably be here 2x a week if it was in NYC, so maybe it's a good thing that it is so far away)
20.)  Burt's Pizza- Morton Grove, IL 
 
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/12 17:38:06
That is an awesome list for NYC Billyboy!! We could use a lobster roll for under $20...if we could add to that all-star list.

Oh...and two Ted's!

Ted Drewes Frozen Custard St. Louis
Ted's Hot Dogs Buffalo

Just not together.
post edited by CCinNJ - 2012/02/12 18:18:07
billyboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Current POLL 2012/02/12 18:45:04
Hey CC, there is a lobster roll for about $14-$15 at Luke's Lobster.  They have a four locations in Manhattan (East Village, Financial District, UW and the UES).  I've been to the first two and they're pretty good.  They do the Maine AND Connecticut style rolls!  As much as I wanted to put it on the list, even in a fantasy world, the restaurateur can't recreate the atmosphere outdoors on the water. 
 
I've never been to Ted Drewes but I do love the Shake Shack and from what I understand Danny Meyer based his custards and "concretes" on the ones he had growing up in St. Louis. 
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