Deep Frying Oil

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Originally posted by pinkie

If you only eat fried foods 4 times a year what about all the other trans fat products you consume everday without your knowledge. You would be surprised. Take a look at LARD and you can see what it would look like in your arteries. I just think people should care what they put in their bodies.

I'm not sure where you got that I don't care what I put in my body. I'm very aware of what I eat that is good for me, what is not good for me. I just don't see why it matters if I eat lard four times per year; I'd rather really enjoy those four fried foods than not.

Thumbs up to what UncleVic said.

To me, this conversation is akin to eating a #5 at McDonald's and ordering a Diet Coke or bottle of water, "to be healthy". At that point, you've blown your junk food for the month. You might as well go whole hog...

I just wish I had the opportunity to have the choice to fry with lard. It's NO WHERE to be found here! I don't fry a bad bird but my Great Aunt in W.VA. fried the best along with fried potatoes, green tomatoes...oh and the bisquits ladeled with pintos. Lard, yum.

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Originally posted by pinkie

GROSS-LARD IS SERIOUSLY BAD FOR YOU. WHY WOULDN'T YOU A LEAST TRY SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE HEALTHY LIKE ANYTHING.

Not so fast. Pure rendered non-hydrogenated lard is has lower saturated fat and higher monounsaturates than a lot of others, including butter.

http://www.foodandwine.com/articles/lard-the-new-health-food

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Originally posted by UncleVic

I've always used GFS extended life cheap oil. Worked great! I beleive it was vegetable, but dont quote me on that one..

As for all the health fanatics.. Do you eat deep fried foods everyday? Jeesh, sounds like a lifes cause for you guys. I'd be more worried about the chemicals and hormones they inject into the livestock, or chemicals added and used during the production of vegetables. Even for those eating healthy, if your cooking with Olive Oil, and it's not labeled organic, your in for the shock of your life. These oils have more concentrated chemicals in them then you could shake a stick at... (Take 12lbs of olives and squeeze them to make a bottle of oil... Picture how much pesticide was used on them 12lbs that was absorbed into the fruit)...

Yes, my friends have accused me of being the health police. I know boring. I just try to eat the healthiest way possible so I can age gracefully. If you have to spend just a little more to get quality food everyone wins...what's so wrong with that. I also work out to keep firm.

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Originally posted by -Tricky-

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Originally posted by pinkie

If you only eat fried foods 4 times a year what about all the other trans fat products you consume everday without your knowledge. You would be surprised. Take a look at LARD and you can see what it would look like in your arteries. I just think people should care what they put in their bodies.

I'm not sure where you got that I don't care what I put in my body. I'm very aware of what I eat that is good for me, what is not good for me. I just don't see why it matters if I eat lard four times per year; I'd rather really enjoy those four fried foods than not.

Thumbs up to what UncleVic said.

To me, this conversation is akin to eating a #5 at McDonald's and ordering a Diet Coke or bottle of water, "to be healthy". At that point, you've blown your junk food for the month. You might as well go whole hog...

Sorry Tricky, I was speaking generally. A lot of people might only eat fried foods a couple of times a year but if one is not really paying attention to the amounts of trans fats or fatty foods consumed then it can add up to be too much. Personally, I just try to avoid trans fats as a general rule. Like I said sometimes I can go overboard with my health convictions just ask my kids-HA.

Hmmph. My Great-Grandmother grew up on a hog farm, ate bacon for breakfast most everyday of her life, lunch was usually fried in lard, there was lard in the pie crust and the best chicken I have ever tasted were her birds fried in lard. Frijoles refritos must have lard or they are flat. I had to laugh when her new doctor told her 92 year old self to stop the pig fat. She used to sneak out and buy bacon when her daughter wasn't looking. Hooray for her.

When I go to get something deep fried, I'd rather it taste good than getting food fried in the oil of a strawberry seed or some funky health-trendy thing. Why is the fast food industry being told to go "healthy" when the concept of fast food was always "unhealthy?" Jeeze, just only eat it once in a while. I'm tired of some fat person claiming that they [whine] diiiiiiiiin't knooooooooow!!!!

I agree with Catracks...

Virtually all of my relatives grew up in the depression era in the Mid-west, lard and onion sandwiches or anything you could obtain to survive. Decades later my uncle owned a thoroughbred farm and ate steak and 4 eggs virtually every day of his life. Died in his late 80's. My Grandmother sat 24/7, weighed 300 pounds, ate virtually anything she felt like, which was usually sweets, starch and alcohol. Plus she smoked. (Lived into her 80's)

Look at Julia Childs. Almost 100 ...LOOK at her diet! French butterfat filled cream sauces. Red meat and Gin. Look at George Burns. 100. Whisky, cigars and sex. Plus you can't tell me he ate sprouts and plain brown rice. Heck with all the inflamatory BS about health issues, trans fats, lo-carbs...good grief. Experts found that the stress of worry about what to eat or not to eat was more damaging than just enjoying food.

Conversely look at the health conscious jogger that dropped dead mid 40's. Yul Brynner died of cancer in spite of a holistic fish and brown rice/veggie diet.

No one can guarantee that the constant waste of time worrying about what's in my food is going to actually extend my life because NObody knows just how long I was going to live by comparison. Even if you did get an add-on of a few years you'd use them up reading those dumb lables for content anyway...LOL.

"Experts" have this annoying habit of changing their mind depending on what funding they get to do 'research'.

Through the years I've seen vitamins and holistic remedies considered 'witchcraft' by the FDA, now it's not only recommended but mandated, drinking was bad, then good, then moderate is great; a little overweight will help you live longer, wine is the recommended beverage of choice in a country where water is questionable...or not even an issue if you're in Europe. Coffee was bad then good... even smoking has been found to help certain types of health issues, Pot...bad then helps in a lot of problems with cancer and AIDS patients. Stuff causes cancer then doesn't <cuz the "experts" goofed maybe?...oh, unless you're in California where EVERYTHING causes cancer>. Chocolate...first dark, now milk...complaints about the fat content, now they are beneficial...

What I do know? That "experts" who are totally against "types" of edibles don't know squat. Statistics are constantly manipulated depending on the type of results the researchers need to realize, and the bottom line is follow the money.

Nutritionists, yeah, that's different...depending on the nutritionist. (and believe me, I grew up around the subject because my mom was brilliant at it and totally obcessed) The only real truth about food is that people need vitamins, calories, fats, proteins, sugars...

Everyone needs a different combination and nobody can dictate that.

Sorry to be so blunt, but it just is.

And Pinky? Trying to force your ideals on people just doesn't place your position (no matter how noble) in a very good light with people. They see the 'annoying' preachy part first and often can't get past that to hear the rest of what you have to say.

...and face it: Diets are big business.

April

For deep frying I stay with classic Crisco oil.

After a relentless sales rep brought me a 3 gallon sample of OPTIMAX I have totally switched to it for all of my deep fried applications.

0% trans fat, no greasy taste and it can be cold filtered. As far as cost goes it is about $.01 more per fluid ounce (if you factor in filter paper and labor) than your garden variety canola/vegetable blend but the quality is 10 times better and if your so inclined you can actually advertise that you are using an oil that contains 0% trans fat (major keyword these days.. thanks ACPPI).

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Originally posted by adbunting

I agree with Catracks...

Virtually all of my relatives grew up in the depression era in the Mid-west, lard and onion sandwiches or anything you could obtain to survive. Decades later my uncle owned a thoroughbred farm and ate steak and 4 eggs virtually every day of his life. Died in his late 80's. My Grandmother sat 24/7, weighed 300 pounds, ate virtually anything she felt like, which was usually sweets, starch and alcohol. Plus she smoked. (Lived into her 80's)

Look at Julia Childs. Almost 100 ...LOOK at her diet! French butterfat filled cream sauces. Red meat and Gin. Look at George Burns. 100. Whisky, cigars and sex. Plus you can't tell me he ate sprouts and plain brown rice. Heck with all the inflamatory BS about health issues, trans fats, lo-carbs...good grief. Experts found that the stress of worry about what to eat or not to eat was more damaging than just enjoying food.

Conversely look at the health conscious jogger that dropped dead mid 40's. Yul Brynner died of cancer in spite of a holistic fish and brown rice/veggie diet.

No one can guarantee that the constant waste of time worrying about what's in my food is going to actually extend my life because NObody knows just how long I was going to live by comparison. Even if you did get an add-on of a few years you'd use them up reading those dumb lables for content anyway...LOL.

"Experts" have this annoying habit of changing their mind depending on what funding they get to do 'research'.

Through the years I've seen vitamins and holistic remedies considered 'witchcraft' by the FDA, now it's not only recommended but mandated, drinking was bad, then good, then moderate is great; a little overweight will help you live longer, wine is the recommended beverage of choice in a country where water is questionable...or not even an issue if you're in Europe. Coffee was bad then good... even smoking has been found to help certain types of health issues, Pot...bad then helps in a lot of problems with cancer and AIDS patients. Stuff causes cancer then doesn't <cuz the "experts" goofed maybe?...oh, unless you're in California where EVERYTHING causes cancer>. Chocolate...first dark, now milk...complaints about the fat content, now they are beneficial...

What I do know? That "experts" who are totally against "types" of edibles don't know squat. Statistics are constantly manipulated depending on the type of results the researchers need to realize, and the bottom line is follow the money.

Nutritionists, yeah, that's different...depending on the nutritionist. (and believe me, I grew up around the subject because my mom was brilliant at it and totally obcessed) The only real truth about food is that people need vitamins, calories, fats, proteins, sugars...

Everyone needs a different combination and nobody can dictate that.

Sorry to be so blunt, but it just is.

And Pinky? Trying to force your ideals on people just doesn't place your position (no matter how noble) in a very good light with people. They see the 'annoying' preachy part first and often can't get past that to hear the rest of what you have to say.

...and face it: Diets are big business.

April

Ouch April

I ended up on this site, looking for an alternative to peanut oil, due to a food allergy. I saw this post and had to reply. I agree with April 100%. I have a grandfather who lived to be 98 years old. He grew up in the depression, and felt that nothing should be wasted. Everyday for lunch, he ate toast, dipped in the bacon grease that was left over from his breakfast.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, I have a sister that is a vegetarian, eats no fat, and is very thin. She on the other hand, will not live until she is 98. She probably does not have the body fat to fight off the common cold.

My mother believes everything that she reads. Every new statistic on what is healthy and what is not. I agree that that about every 10 years, the trend changes, and people jump on board. What is most troubling for me, is that people believe what they read, lock- stock- and barrel. Then they change what they believed in with all of their heart and jump on a new band wagon. They will change their mind as quick as they change their underwear.

Just enjoy what you eat and I believe if you are destined to live until you are 98 years old, then you will live until you are 98.

I am probably 20lbs. overweight and enjoy life and thoroughly enjoy food. I will not stop eating beef because a "so called" expert says that it is bad. In 10 years, it will be the fountain of youth or something- decided by some so called expert.............

OK Folks, Frying oil differs with food product. Lard, pure and homogenized is, was, and shall be the very best for miscellaneous cooking...however, due to "Health Awareness", others have come to be spot lighted. See Scientific Journal's report on Frying oils...Pure Olive Oil is best for some food variety, Rice oil for others, peanut oil (if you're a commercial business, have a REAL GOOD insurance company) is the most unsafe... Flavor Enhanced with "Natural Ingredients" pure vegetable oil is what MacDonalds uses...they spent millions on simply the taste additive when they switched from beef tallow (93%) a few years ago.
Indeed, to find the right flavor is a trick everyone wants to know...how about this one...French Fries are best if the potato is a Burbank Russett aged 3-4 weeks in a dry place. That's right, AGED. The natural sugars change to starch and then produce a remarkably better flavor. They also take less oil to cook, and brown up only when the interior is done to perfection! Unbelieveable? Try a MacDonalds Fry sometime...that's their receipe for success!
To go back, choice of oil is like fine wine. What ever tastes best to you, use it!
Be Well all....

I have a bakery that I run out of a hot pink trailer in Flippin Arkansas and my specialty is fried pie. I've always used peanut oil but now I'm freaked out! I've never even considered posting an allergy notice! Anyone know what oil I should go with for a bakery product? (Think donuts for anyone who doesn't know what a fried pie is.)

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Originally posted by rjb

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Originally posted by pinkie

GROSS-LARD IS SERIOUSLY BAD FOR YOU. WHY WOULDN'T YOU A LEAST TRY SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE HEALTHY LIKE ANYTHING.

Not so fast. Pure rendered non-hydrogenated lard is has lower saturated fat and higher monounsaturates than a lot of others, including butter.

http://www.foodandwine.com/articles/lard-the-new-health-food

I concur.

Two very interesting articles about "leaf" lard. The BEST type of lard for pastry crust.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/15/dining/15crus.html?_r=1&em&ex=1163739600&en=59c902dc2c579c8f&ei=5087%0A&oref=slogin

http://dwb.thenewstribune.com/soundlife/story/5160098p-4693041c.html