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EatingTheRoad

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Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 7:48 AM (permalink)
I'm sure this has been brought up before but The Dallas Observer had a recent article about their 10 Most Annoying Things About Dining Out:

1. Restaurants encouraging valet parking
2. No reservation policies at popular restaurants
3. Charging high corkage fees at BYOB-only restaurants
4. Staff not bussing silverware between courses
5. By the glass wines at cocktail prices
6. Restaurants not keeping stated hours
7. Restaurants not posting opening hours on the web site
8. The practice of seating people in clusters
9. Superlatives
10. Wait staff asking "How is everything" at all the wrong moments

What are yours?



 
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    cavandre

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    Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 8:44 AM (permalink)
    You finish your meal completely & then it takes forever to get your check & actually pay for your meal. Last weekend was a perfect example. We had finished our meal for a good 15 mins. before our server asked if we wanted any else. We said no, please bring us our check. He leaves and comes back about 10 mins. later with the check. Before he can leave, we hand him a debit card to pay. On the way to running the card, he stops at the table next to us when they ask him a question. He then proceeds to do 5 minutes of stand up comedy at this table, not 10 feet away from us. He finally leaves them & another 10 minutes later returns with the debit card receipt. We're now talking about 35 minutes from the time we've finished our meal, in an nearly empty restaurant. His tip dropped appreciably!
     
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      Tedbear

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      Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 9:03 AM (permalink)

      I can add one:
      Restaurants that allow children to run amok.  By not requesting parents to restrain their kids from committing mayhem in the establishment, the restaurant management is allowing the dining experience for large numbers of people to become soured. 

      Yes, I know that it is difficult to approach parents on this issue, but why allow that kid to annoy large numbers of people?  Isn't it better to take a chance at offending just the negligent parents than to chase large numbers of people out of the restaurant?

      However, I do agree with Cavandre.
      Few things annoy me in a restaurant as much as the frequently long wait for the check and for my credit card and receipt to be returned.
       
      #3
        kozel

        Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 10:12 AM (permalink)
        When I hear another patron ask 'What beer do you have?" and listen to the waiter rattle off a really long list of selections and then hear the patron say "I'll have a Bud" really makes we want to slap him.
         
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          EatingTheRoad

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          Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 10:29 AM (permalink)
          kozel


          When I hear another patron ask 'What beer do you have?" and listen to the waiter rattle off a really long list of selections and then hear the patron say "I'll have a Bud" really makes we want to slap him.


          Haha Now that's one I haven't heard before.

          I thought of one...I don't like when restaurants use "Home-made"...home-made is made in the home..correct? I'm hoping it was made in the restaurant kitchen and not the kitchen in their house. I can see "made from scratch" or something along those lines but even still, shouldn't everything at a good restaurant (for the most part, aside from the obvious) be scratch-made? I prefer wording like "made fresh daily", I think that gets the idea across the best.
           
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            Davydd

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            Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 10:31 AM (permalink)
            I'm a beer asker but for the opposite reason. I am alway searching for the local microbrew that I may have never had. I hate it when the waitron starts out with Bud, Bud Light, Miller Lite, Coors... Then I have to interrupt and explain and then they apologize and say they have to go back and ask the bartender. I've finally learned to be more specific right from the beginning and even that tends to fluster them because they don't know what is local or what the term microbrew means.
             
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              tommyeats

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              Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 11:00 AM (permalink)
              I ask "what kind of beer do you have" on the off chance that they'll actually have something interesting.  if not, I say "i'll have a bud".

              now that i know this annoys people listening to the transaction I'll make sure to do it more often.
               
              #7
                kozel

                Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 11:17 AM (permalink)
                tommyeats


                I ask "what kind of beer do you have" on the off chance that they'll actually have something interesting.  if not, I say "i'll have a bud".

                now that i know this annoys people listening to the transaction I'll make sure to do it more often.


                I've ordered a Bud as well when there nothing more interesting.  By the phrase 'really long list' I meant to imply that there would be have to be something more interesting. Point is, some people would order a Bud no matter what is available and there is nothing wrong with that.  Just order it; it's almost universally available.
                 
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                  Niagara

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                  Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 11:59 AM (permalink)
                  We were out for dinner once when my Step-Father ordered "A carfay" of their best wine. No, he wasn't making a joke.
                   
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                    wanderingjew

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                    Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 12:18 PM (permalink)
                    -Regional Restaurants that take the one regional cool thing that was on the menu,  off the menu (ie Buz n Neds in Richmond VA taking spoon bread off the menu)
                    -Bad Coffee- I just accept it now- outside of the Pacific Northwest, all restaurants serve bad coffee
                    -Bad Beer-  Serving only Millers Coors and Bud. All restaurants should at least have Sam Adams and at least one local microbrew
                     
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                      Greymo

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                      Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 12:27 PM (permalink)
                      One of my pet peeves is when the server recites a long ,very detailed, and  descriptive list of all the "specials" and then neglects to tell you the price.  Usually, after he recites the first "special", I will ask for the price and then politely tell him that I would like to know the price of each item that  they recite.  More times than not, they seem rather confused that someone actually wants to know how much something costs.
                       
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                        mar52

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                        Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 12:59 PM (permalink)
                        The reading of tonight's specials with the detailed sides and when you ask to have one of them they then tell you that they're out.

                        Why include it on the list at that point?
                         
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                          ken8038

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                          Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 1:40 PM (permalink)
                          <<7. Restaurants not posting opening hours on the web site

                          Yes, that one drives me crazy. Why go thru the trouble of having a website and not indicating what days and/or hours you are open. Then I have make a phone call anyway.

                          That and loud unrequested music and/or slow-loading pointless graphics when opening the site:
                          http://www.krispypizza.com/frames.html

                          Great pizza, annoying website
                           
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                            ScreamingChicken

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                            Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 2:13 PM (permalink)
                            I hate it when 2 guys in black suits, hats, and sunglasses are seated at the next table.

                            Brad
                             
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                              tommyeats

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                              Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 2:32 PM (permalink)
                              mar52


                              The reading of tonight's specials with the detailed sides and when you ask to have one of them they then tell you that they're out.

                              Why include it on the list at that point?

                              you're saying that a server recites the specials, you immediately say "I'll have x", and then they say "we're out of x."?  how many times could this have possibly happened.  it seems very unlikely that it happens often.

                              do restaurants actually run out of specials between the time you hear them and a later point at which you order?  of course.  the server should mention that upon returning to the table.
                               
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                                CCinNJ

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                                Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 2:53 PM (permalink)

                                2. No reservation policies at popular restaurants

                                 
                                I will say restaurants that do have a reservation policy and hold those  times a long long  time past the reservation time thinking (hoping) that the party/parties running late or not showing at all will eventually show up while having several parties waiting for a long long time for a table actually at the restaurant.
                                 
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                                  Greymo

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                                  Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 3:04 PM (permalink)
                                  Actually, it may be that these parties have called and explained why they are late and that the restaurant agreed to hold the table for them.
                                   
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                                    CCinNJ

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                                    Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 3:21 PM (permalink)
                                    Sometimes yes. Sometimes they go to the extreme for parties that have a reservation and have not called or cancelled...and it can be up to 30-45 minutes past the reserved time. That also backs up the future reservation later in the evening when there are no tables and those that arrive late (for whatever reason) do not rush just for the sake of others who are there on time.
                                     
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                                      cavandre

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                                      Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 4:38 PM (permalink)
                                      tommyeats

                                      do restaurants actually run out of specials between the time you hear them and a later point at which you order?  of course.  the server should mention that upon returning to the table.

                                      There's a place by us that really has good coordination between the kitchen & the servers. When reciting the specials, they'll add something like "and the chief says there's only 2 (or 1 or 3) of those left, so if you'd like that I'll go back to the kitchen & reserve you one". This is especially appreciated since my better half has the uncanny knack of choosing things that the restaurant is out of...she can walk into a NYC Greek diner & find the one thing on a 14 page menu that the place is out of.

                                       
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                                        tommyeats

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                                        Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 4:56 PM (permalink)
                                        CCinNJ


                                        Sometimes yes. Sometimes they go to the extreme for parties that have a reservation and have not called or cancelled...and it can be up to 30-45 minutes past the reserved time. That also backs up the future reservation later in the evening when there are no tables and those that arrive late (for whatever reason) do not rush just for the sake of others who are there on time.
                                         

                                        the types of places i go to tend to have the whole reservation thing pretty much down.  i've rarely, in 20+ years of dining out, had to wait very long for a reserved table.    occasionally, of course, a wait happens, but how would anyone know that if it was because the party before me was late and didn't call.  it's borderline preposterous to make any assumptions like this.

                                        i've also noticed that late tables without a call are given away at some point, and rarely does it go to 45 minutes.  

                                        regardless, as a reasonable person, when i get arrive, unannounced, to a restaurant that routinely takes reservations, i suck it up and wait, and i don't spend much energy trying to figure out what scenario left me in that position, because it's pretty clear what that answer is:  i didn't make a reservation.
                                         
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                                          Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 5:07 PM (permalink)
                                          EatingTheRoad


                                          I'm sure this has been brought up before but The Dallas Observer had a recent article about their 10 Most Annoying Things About Dining Out:

                                          1. Restaurants encouraging valet parking
                                          2. No reservation policies at popular restaurants
                                          3. Charging high corkage fees at BYOB-only restaurants
                                          4. Staff not bussing silverware between courses
                                          5. By the glass wines at cocktail prices
                                          6. Restaurants not keeping stated hours
                                          7. Restaurants not posting opening hours on the web site
                                          8. The practice of seating people in clusters
                                          9. Superlatives
                                          10. Wait staff asking "How is everything" at all the wrong moments

                                          What are yours?


                                          Dining with people that whine about everything.
                                           
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                                            CCinNJ

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                                            Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 6:10 PM (permalink)
                                            tommyeats


                                            CCinNJ


                                            Sometimes yes. Sometimes they go to the extreme for parties that have a reservation and have not called or cancelled...and it can be up to 30-45 minutes past the reserved time. That also backs up the future reservation later in the evening when there are no tables and those that arrive late (for whatever reason) do not rush just for the sake of others who are there on time.
                                             

                                            the types of places i go to tend to have the whole reservation thing pretty much down.  i've rarely, in 20+ years of dining out, had to wait very long for a reserved table.    occasionally, of course, a wait happens, but how would anyone know that if it was because the party before me was late and didn't call.  it's borderline preposterous to make any assumptions like this.

                                            i've also noticed that late tables without a call are given away at some point, and rarely does it go to 45 minutes.  

                                            regardless, as a reasonable person, when i get arrive, unannounced, to a restaurant that routinely takes reservations, i suck it up and wait, and i don't spend much energy trying to figure out what scenario left me in that position, because it's pretty clear what that answer is:  i didn't make a reservation.


                                            This is the pet peeve thread. Not the proclaim what is making the restaurant industry so  wrong thread.  I have experienced it several times. I know how restaurants set-up reservations and the time alloted between seating schedules. Popular restaurants often do not take reservations because the seats will be filled no matter how many reserved spots are being held...or not. Holding means waiting. Patrons at the restaurant are givens.
                                            <message edited by CCinNJ on Sat, 10/17/09 6:23 PM>
                                             
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                                              Wabbit

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                                              Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 7:11 PM (permalink)
                                              Some ill mannered fool blowing there nose at the table near me.. That will ruin my dining experience.
                                               
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                                                mar52

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                                                Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sat, 10/17/09 10:16 PM (permalink)

                                                you're saying that a server recites the specials, you immediately say "I'll have x", and then they say "we're out of x."? how many times could this have possibly happened. it seems very unlikely that it happens often.


                                                Well kind of.  I order one of the specials and then they come back from the kitchen and tell me that they are out.

                                                It's happened a few times.

                                                The last two were lamb shanks at Nichol's in Marina del Rey and the Cassoulet  at Soleil Westwood which is in...

                                                Westwood.

                                                It does seem unlikely that it happens often, but it does.


                                                 
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                                                  Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sun, 10/18/09 1:53 AM (permalink)
                                                  Brad_Olson


                                                  I hate it when 2 guys in black suits, hats, and sunglasses are seated at the next table.

                                                  Brad


                                                  and ordering white toast and whole chickens
                                                   
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                                                    EatingTheRoad

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                                                    Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sun, 10/18/09 9:40 AM (permalink)
                                                    harleytexas


                                                    Brad_Olson


                                                    I hate it when 2 guys in black suits, hats, and sunglasses are seated at the next table.

                                                    Brad


                                                    and ordering white toast and whole chickens


                                                    I'm so confused...
                                                     
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                                                      enginecapt

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                                                      Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sun, 10/18/09 10:39 AM (permalink)
                                                      In no particular order, here are some stream of consciousness peeves of mine. I tend to frequent dives, holes in the wall and roadfood type places, so you won't see any peeves that mirror the first five from the Dallas Observer article:

                                                      01. When they serve me something from the dessert cabinet that's waaaay past its pull date.
                                                      02. "Ranch fresh". "Golden brown". "Garden fresh". "Homemade".
                                                      03. Underdone omelets. No snot for me, por favor.
                                                      04. Stuff that's supposed to be served hot, but ain't.
                                                      05. A BBQ joint that doesn't smell like wood smoke inside.
                                                      06. Weak drinks, both soft and hard.
                                                      07. Places that have AC but under use it or won't use it at all. That's especially annoying here in the land of scorching summers.
                                                      08. Hyper-saltiness. I'm not on a salt-restricted diet, and I like salt, so when I balk at too much salt, you can bet there's too much salt.
                                                      09. The ubiquity of broccoli as the veg course.
                                                      10. Wan service.
                                                       
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                                                        mayor al

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                                                        Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sun, 10/18/09 6:31 PM (permalink)
                                                        ETR-
                                                          Brad and Harley are making reference to the Blues Brothers dinner scene in the original Akroyd/Belushi Movie. Many nearby diners were involved in their displays of poor manners!
                                                         
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                                                          EatingTheRoad

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                                                          Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sun, 10/18/09 8:26 PM (permalink)
                                                          Well I guess that ages me...I've never seen it...maybe I'll have to watch that one.
                                                           
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                                                            Re:Dining Out Pet Peeves Sun, 10/18/09 8:42 PM (permalink)
                                                            I've seen the picture at least 3 times and the reference got by me...
                                                             
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