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bakman_01570

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Dr Pepper Wed, 01/23/08 5:14 PM (permalink)
hey

has anyone tried the new chocolate flavor?
 
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    Greyghost

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    RE: Dr Pepper Sun, 01/27/08 10:14 AM (permalink)
    I have tried Dr Pepper Cherry Chocolate and found the flavor interesting. The cherry reminds me of the flavor of Ludens Wild Cherry cough drops. The chocolate has a definite Tootsie Roll character to it. Imagine having cherry cough drops, Tootsie Roll and a swing of Dr Pepper in your mouth at once and you will have a good idea of what the flavor is like.
     
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      PapaJoe8

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      RE: Dr Pepper Sun, 01/27/08 11:19 AM (permalink)
      I have someone who is addicted at my house. I wonder what the addictive drug is, that they put in those peppers? It's a secret cover up of some kind.
      Joe
       
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        stricken_detective

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        RE: Dr Pepper Sun, 01/27/08 5:20 PM (permalink)
        Someone brought one into work. They are not that bad.
         
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          leethebard

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          RE: Dr Pepper Tue, 01/29/08 11:06 PM (permalink)
          Hey,I haven't seen the Chocolate here at the Jersey shore. Hope it comes soon. I bet the diet is great!
           
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            NJunderground

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            RE: Dr Pepper Wed, 01/30/08 9:56 PM (permalink)
            I just picked up a 12 pack of the Cherry Chocolate Diet Dr. Pepper. It's not bad. Grey Ghost's assessment is pretty spot on with the tootsie roll flavor. First you get a hit of cherry then a hit of chocolate. I didn't think it mixed really well with food, though.
             
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              Mossman

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              • Location: Westerville, OH
              RE: Dr Pepper Wed, 01/30/08 11:14 PM (permalink)
              Taste was good, but sat kindy heavy in the tummy!
               
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                Greyghost

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                RE: Dr Pepper Sun, 02/10/08 10:08 PM (permalink)
                The Dr Peeper float has been around for a long while, but my wife has come up with a new variation on the theme. She likes Dr Pepper Cherry Chocolate somewhat but loves her frozen yogurt vanilla ice concoction better. It is simplicity, a lot of iced vanilla yogurt with just a bit of the soda...not really a float but more of a liquid flavor enhancement for it. Seems to work. I guess you can do a bit more with this product than simply drinking it as a straight soda.
                 
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                  leethebard

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                  RE: Dr Pepper Mon, 02/11/08 5:22 AM (permalink)
                  Love doctor Pepper. Always felt it had a cherry flavor to begin with. What flavors do you taste in Doctor Pepper...a bit of prune also..although everyone says there is none!
                   
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                    Greyghost

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                    RE: Dr Pepper Mon, 02/11/08 7:03 PM (permalink)
                    Lee,

                    Well the one thing we know about Dr Pepper original recipe is that it is a blend of 23 flavors reputed to be derived from fruits and some spices. I have always desired to figure them out and have seen both fanciful and likely thoughts about the matter. Prune is an urban legend as far I have seen. Dr Pepper has always specifically denied it and I believe them.

                    To do a true investigation of the matter we have to go back in time to 1885 and start there. What fruit flavors were available and popular in a drug store setting in Waco, Texas? We also know Charles Alderton formulated it to "taste like a drug store smells" and it does.

                    Here are some of my guesses:
                    1 Cherry
                    2 Vanilla
                    3 Sarsaparilla
                    4 Sassafras
                    5 Raspberry
                    6 Almond extract
                    7 Nutmeg and very strongly so
                    8 Lemon
                    9 orange
                    10 Plum juice... fresh plum is different from prune so they can deny prune.
                    11 Apricot
                    12 Kola nut...pretty much the same thing as cola, another deniable element.

                    These just guesses on my partial list, but as I am sensitive to the taste of nutmeg, I do feel very strongly about that one. Let's take this on and see if we can come to a consensus.
                     
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                      leethebard

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                      RE: Dr Pepper Tue, 02/12/08 12:26 AM (permalink)
                      Greyghost,
                      That's a very interesting list. I sipped a DP and can see(er,taste) some of them. Excellent research.How did you come up with your list?
                       
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                        Greyghost

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                        RE: Dr Pepper Tue, 02/12/08 6:38 PM (permalink)
                        Lee,

                        As I stated most are educated guesses, but some of it is from educated taste buds combined with a love of history. What would that drug store in Waco have available at the time?

                        Sarsaparilla and Sassafras for sure as they were used in many medicinal formulas. They were also used in root beer, both the alcohol based type and the non-alcohol type. Doesn't Dr Pepper seem to have strong root beer component to it? I think so. Yet it is more complex.

                        Some things I just taste, like the nutmeg. Nutmeg has been used for centuries as a very powerful drug. I assume a drug store of the time would be well supplied with extracts of it.

                        Certain almond extracts can give a better taste of cherry than cherry itself...manufacturers still take advantage of this fact to this day. That's why I think almond is in.

                        Kola nut. A primary source of caffeine at the time and obvious. Although the original formulation was simply called a Waco and not called Dr Pepper until later, I do think it had a "pep" nature to it as most later soft drinks did.

                        Fruit juices: A few I can taste, but some I assume as being available. Dr Pepper has always branded itself as a blend of fruit juice flavors, but I think there is more to it than that.

                        I think we will always wonder what the original Dr Pepper tasted like as there is nobody alive that ever had one. I am sure the modern version is different and modern methods are used to try to recreate the original creation.

                        I am still interested in other thoughts on the matter...right now I have only half a list.
                         
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                          PapaJoe8

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                          RE: Dr Pepper Tue, 02/12/08 6:58 PM (permalink)
                          Hey, I'm still alive! Just teasin... Interesting history, great job Greyghost! I was once addicted in my teens but I kiked the habbit. My sweety is still addicted BIG TIME.
                          Joe
                           
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                            leethebard

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                            RE: Dr Pepper Wed, 02/13/08 1:38 PM (permalink)
                            Thanks,greyghost,
                            Fascinating...you are truly a scientist!!! Interesting thought. I wonder how many othjer products are formulated differently...and we don't(or ever will..) know.
                             
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                              Robearjr

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                              RE: Dr Pepper Wed, 02/13/08 9:34 PM (permalink)
                              somewhere in my collection of cook books, I have a Dr. Pepper and 7 Up cookbook. I'm pretty sure it is filled with baked ham and cheeseball recipies.
                               
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                                boyardee65

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                                RE: Dr Pepper Wed, 02/13/08 10:15 PM (permalink)
                                What makes you think that the recipe has changed over the years. I'm sure that the quantities are much larger and we are using high fructose corn syrup instead of cane or beet sugar but I think that they are using the same recipe that they always used. From what I hear, they are still bottling the original recipe in Waco, Texas at a tourist facility. They have been recycling the same bottles for over fifty years, supposedly.

                                David O
                                 
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                                  naxet76

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                                  • Location: san antonio, TX
                                  RE: Dr Pepper Wed, 02/13/08 11:52 PM (permalink)
                                  you can find dr. pepper made with can sugar at the wal marts here in San Antonio.
                                   
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                                    leethebard

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                                    RE: Dr Pepper Thu, 02/14/08 5:22 AM (permalink)
                                    Well, sure.We've discussed high fructose corn syrup on other threads....but obviously that garbage does indeed change the taste!!!!
                                     
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                                      Greyghost

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                                      RE: Dr Pepper Thu, 02/14/08 4:53 PM (permalink)
                                      I think Dr Pepper has changed over the years, somewhat.

                                      I would think 1885 production techniques are considerably different from 2008 production techniques. We now have flavor labs that can recreate any taste with great fidelity, Production processes were much simpler in 1885 though and were probably true extracts simply done. In combining 23 different flavors I think the end result would be different no matter how good the modern flavor lab is.

                                      The flavor notes of Dr Pepper are considerably different in the aspartame and the corn syrup versions. I am sure the cane sugar version is also different.

                                      So do they have still have the same 23 flavors? I am sure they do but the modern versions must be different from the 1885 version. Heck, they can't even keep the 2008 versions the same.
                                       
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                                        daytrader106

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                                        RE: Dr Pepper Sun, 02/17/08 4:21 AM (permalink)
                                        Dr. Pepper is the second best soda there is. The original Dr. Pepper was made with pure cane sugar.

                                        I would say The original SKI with pure cane sugar is Number one, But Dr. Pepper is easier to get.
                                         
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                                          bakman_01570

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                                          RE: Dr Pepper Thu, 02/21/08 3:10 PM (permalink)
                                          i still haven't tried this new flavor yet...!
                                           
                                          #21
                                            wheregreggeats.com

                                            RE: Dr Pepper Thu, 02/21/08 4:49 PM (permalink)
                                            I have always found the Dr. Pepper in Texas to be far better than what you find anywhere else.

                                            I think I read once (probably here) that there is something unique about the production down there ... Maybe it is as simple as the pure cane sugar.

                                             
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                                              Bill B.

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                                              RE: Dr Pepper Thu, 02/21/08 5:08 PM (permalink)
                                              I like it a lot, the diet version. A distributer told me it would only be available in Mid-Missouri through Valentine's Day. Lately, I haven't seen any on the shelves where I shop.

                                              It reminds me of Canfield's Diet Cherry Chocolate Fudge, a canned pop that I haven't seen in at least a decade.
                                               
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                                                Lexi

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                                                RE: Dr Pepper Thu, 02/21/08 5:25 PM (permalink)
                                                We still get Canfield's here in the NY Metro area - fabulous! Sorry Bill - would you like me to send you some?
                                                 
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                                                  Bill B.

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                                                  RE: Dr Pepper Thu, 02/21/08 5:44 PM (permalink)
                                                  Thanks for the offer. I'm glad to hear the company is still around. I'll have to look for it the next time I'm in KC.
                                                   
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