English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!!

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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/04 18:14:34 (permalink)
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Just finished reading a couple of Jack Higgins' books and in them he mentions bacon sandwichs quite often. It would appear that is what the British armed forces lived on during WW2. Because I love bacon and had not had a bacon sandwich in many, many years I was forced to buy a loaf of bread a make one. It was great.
For some reason, I'm thinking that bacon over there is different than bacon over here. Anyone know?
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/04 18:20:01 (permalink)
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It is nice to hear from you ---Old #7 Brand ---- are you just visiting? going to school? or are you here to stay? And what does your name mean ???


Thanks very much . I'm not actually in the States, I just enjoy browsing the forums and pictures, exploring what you guys are eating.

We tend to use Back Bacon, the large, small rinded kind, whereas you guys (as I'm led to believe) prefer the thin, streaky kind.

linus, Malt Loaf?
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/04 18:45:50 (permalink)
Malt loaf sliced thin and toasted.
and spotted dick with golden syrup.. drool!
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/04 19:45:29 (permalink)
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Ancient,
Thanks for giving me the idea to go into Keen's one of these days to try that mutton chop. Some say it's a must.
The Bear

Keens is my local watering hole. Definitely a great place but the mutton chop is actually lamb, just a little bit more mature - say a teenager. Other great things at Keens are steaks [Porterhouse, New York Strip, Filet Mignon, and T-Bone], the hamburger [one of the best I've ever had and the fries are superb - real potato flavor], prime rib hash, chicken club sandwich, Dover sole [very British], and Cobb salad. Avoid salmon of any sort, the roasted chicken and white asparagus which is the usual canned rubbish.
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/04 20:01:35 (permalink)
Brother Rayme you forgot one thing that always knocked me out when I entered Keens---the atmosphere. The feeling of being in a great English Pub---well anyhow the ones I have seen in the cinema or on the telly. I expect Inspector Morse to pop in for a pint at any second. Wonderful NYCity place to enjoy great food.
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/05 08:59:12 (permalink)
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Originally posted by the ancient mariner

Just finished reading a couple of Jack Higgins' books and in them he mentions bacon sandwichs quite often. It would appear that is what the British armed forces lived on during WW2. Because I love bacon and had not had a bacon sandwich in many, many years I was forced to buy a loaf of bread a make one. It was great.
For some reason, I'm thinking that bacon over there is different than bacon over here. Anyone know?


English bacon is a smoked pork loin and is somewhat ham-like. Aka back bacon. American bacon, known as streaky bacon in England, is a pork belly.
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/05 10:24:31 (permalink)
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English bacon is a smoked pork loin and is somewhat ham-like. Aka back bacon. American bacon, known as streaky bacon in England, is a pork belly.
Thanks rjb. That sounds like my confusing breakfasts in Amsterdam back in 1970...
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/06 17:27:15 (permalink)
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Brother Rayme you forgot one thing that always knocked me out when I entered Keens---the atmosphere. The feeling of being in a great English Pub---well anyhow the ones I have seen in the cinema or on the telly. I expect Inspector Morse to pop in for a pint at any second. Wonderful NYCity place to enjoy great food.

Mariner,
Oh yes, of course. All those great rooms, the clay pipe ceiling, the historical documents, the ghost?, Miss Keens, etc. Also the bar quiz that gets you a cheap cigar which you can no longer smoke there and the 130+ single malts.
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/06 21:26:42 (permalink)
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Originally posted by linus

Malt loaf sliced thin and toasted.
and spotted dick with golden syrup.. drool!


Ok, I give up.. SPOTTED DICK?....
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 09:47:29 (permalink)
Lol, yes I knew that was coming. Spotted Dick is basically a Suet/Sponge pudding with Currants or Sultanas mixed into it. Not "pudding" as you Americans think of it (ie. spoonable gelatinous/creamy pudding) but rather more like a Cake. The Suet makes it very heavy and rich, and it's traditionally served piping hot with Toffee sauce.
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 10:45:33 (permalink)
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Lol, yes I knew that was coming. Spotted Dick is basically a Suet/Sponge pudding with Currants or Sultanas mixed into it. Not "pudding" as you Americans think of it (ie. spoonable gelatinous/creamy pudding) but rather more like a Cake. The Suet makes it very heavy and rich, and it's traditionally served piping hot with Toffee sauce.



Before someone asks the next inevitable question, please allow me to answer it. Sultanas are called Raisins in the U.S.

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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 11:12:37 (permalink)
Just to awkward, I'll elaborate on that point. We have raisins too. Raisins are dried black grapes, and Sultanas are the usually larger, dried white grapes. Currants is just a generic name for them, that no-one uses anymore.
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 11:26:49 (permalink)
Currants are much smaller than raisins and seedless. pb
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 11:29:16 (permalink)
It has always amazed me that the British (who invented the language) can't get it sorted out correctly. If them dere guys over dere just paid more attention to the way us Yanks talk the lingo dey would be in great shape (for the shape dey're in, ya foller me) and we would not need no translator type guy, if ya no what I mean. See !!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 12:21:40 (permalink)
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Currants are much smaller than raisins and seedless. pb



Yes, and I think that this represents yet another difference in the language between The UK & The US. On this side of the pond, Currants are small, seedless berries that grow on bushes, and come in red and black varieties.

It appears that the term Currant may be another word for a dried grape in The UK, but the Currant is most definitely not the product of a grape vine on this side of the Atlantic. As the old saying goes, "Two nations, separated by language".
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 12:26:33 (permalink)
I forgot to ask Old No. 7 where he (or she?) hails from in The UK. My family is from London (some of the worst haunts in The East End, actually), and later moved to Manchester prior to emigrating to The US in the 1860s. Any chance that you live in the areas where my family stomped around?
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 12:45:35 (permalink)
I'm from the Nortn East, Tedbear. Yorkshire to be precise. So I was brought up around people who will call a Spoon a Spoon, making no comprimises. Which is often very annoying, as they tend to do things like pronounce the "j" in 'Fajitas'.
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 13:21:12 (permalink)
I don't know why so many people still think that English food is a joke. There is nothing funny about English food dear people This is seriously Bad Food folks,

Should we even be debating this when there are thousands of people dying every day in poor countries like Finland and Iceland going with out Big Macks or Whoppers. let alone Krispy Kremes , gravy and all the trimmings................. ???
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 13:28:35 (permalink)
No food is bad food, I think...


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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 14:59:49 (permalink)
Has anyone here tried surstromming?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=46&ObjectID=10339953

http://www.escapeartist.com/efam32/swedish.html
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 15:42:27 (permalink)
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I'm from the Nortn East, Tedbear. Yorkshire to be precise. So I was brought up around people who will call a Spoon a Spoon, making no comprimises. Which is often very annoying, as they tend to do things like pronounce the "j" in 'Fajitas'.

Kinda like people new to the Florida Keys always say consh, instead of CONK for conch fritters!
"I would like some consh fritters, please".
LOL
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 18:50:28 (permalink)
Hmmm...Most Brits would say "consh" though, we'd treat it like "bench" or "wench"
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 19:09:34 (permalink)
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I don't know why so many people still think that English food is a joke. There is nothing funny about English food dear people This is seriously Bad Food folks,

Should we even be debating this when there are thousands of people dying every day in poor countries like Finland and Iceland going with out Big Macks or Whoppers. let alone Krispy Kremes , gravy and all the trimmings................. ???




fpczyz--I am curious about your knowledge of food in the UK.

How often have you been to The UK?
How recent was your last visit?
Where did you eat?

Also--where did you find a Krispy Kreme that serves their fare with gravy? I have observed that they only serve their products with a large portion of Trans-Fat.
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 21:25:27 (permalink)
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Hmmm...Most Brits would say "consh" though, we'd treat it like "bench" or "wench"


That too!
I dont think I got the right "improper" gramatical innuendo there.. You did!
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/07 21:56:44 (permalink)
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Check out any cookbooks by Gordon Ramsey as well.

I'm curious. Do Gordon Ramsey's books come with bleeped-out words, like his television shows?
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/08 13:46:46 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Nemis

Check out any cookbooks by Gordon Ramsey as well.

I'm curious. Do Gordon Ramsey's books come with bleeped-out words, like his television shows?

I ate at Gordo's restaurant at Claridge's and the man himself came by and sort of hovered in the background; I think he thought I was a critic. Fortunately I escaped being forcibly evicted. Food was good but unctuous.
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/08 16:48:57 (permalink)
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Tedbear Posted - 01/07/2006 : 19:09:34
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Originally posted by fpczyz

I don't know why so many people still think that English food is a joke. There is nothing funny about English food dear people This is seriously Bad Food folks,

Should we even be debating this when there are thousands of people dying every day in poor countries like Finland and Iceland going with out Big Macks or Whoppers. let alone Krispy Kremes , gravy and all the trimmings................. ???





fpczyz--I am curious about your knowledge of food in the UK.


fpczyz--I am curious about your knowledge of food in the UK Tedbear: my knowledge of food in the UK is quite extensive..........

How often have you been to The UK? ................... looking into my travel log I can count 87 visits since 1983 I had many more visits there while in the Navy years before but we won't count them...........
How recent was your last visit? ............... Up until this March 2005 my wife and I maintained a small flat in Chiswick out side of London just to be close to our daughter and our two grand children. My wife wanted to be close when our daughter gave birth to her children. We found renting an advantage over staying at a hotel. In the last 4 years Linda and I would stay in the UK months at a time. We also had no problem subleasing this flat to friends when we were back home in California.
Where did you eat? ........... when we eat out we stick to ethnic restaurants for we truly dislike the tradition English food. Actually we eat most of our meals at home and believe it or not we shopped at a COSTCO. To experience good food we would take week-end trips to Belgium, France and Germany ..........
Tedbear, I can appreciate your love for English fare but please lets not be anal about it .........Frank C.
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/08 17:45:55 (permalink)

I don't think that I am being anal by decrying broad generalizations such as the ones that you employed in your characterization of food in The UK. Bad food is available in most countries, as is good food. (Okay, I never had a bad meal in France or in Italy, but usually, both bad meals & good meals are available all over the globe!)

Perhaps I have been unusually lucky in my choice of places to eat in The UK. And perhaps you have been unusually unlucky. Broad generalizations do not do justice to either the people/culture/nation that is being described, or to the person who is uttering those generalizations.
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/08 17:47:35 (permalink)
Old No. 7,
I have a friend who owns a brewery in Harrogate. You familiar with Rooster's?
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RE: English Food, old boy !!!!!!!!! 2006/01/09 10:43:40 (permalink)
No pete, can't say I am. Thought I recognised the name, but I was thinking of Rooster Potatoes, lol.
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