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Re:Firearm lovers. 2010/09/21 15:29:13 (permalink)
It does have the synthetic stock and will pretty much be for home defense.  I have a coach gun, but if I ever needed a shotgun, I'd rather have the 6 shells and not have to worry about reloading and cocking the rabbit ears.
 
It has the 18" barrel so I don't think it would be good for either hunting or trap/skeet. 
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Re:Firearm lovers. 2010/09/21 15:51:44 (permalink)
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It does have the synthetic stock and will pretty much be for home defense.  I have a coach gun, but if I ever needed a shotgun, I'd rather have the 6 shells and not have to worry about reloading and cocking the rabbit ears.

It has the 18" barrel so I don't think it would be good for either hunting or trap/skeet. 

If it's for home defense you might be interested in a pistol grip. I understand these are pretty good add-ons:
 
http://www.popguns.com/shotgunaccessories/pistolgrips.htm


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Re:Firearm lovers. 2010/09/22 08:22:27 (permalink)
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If it's for home defense you might be interested in a pistol grip. I understand these are pretty good add-ons:

http://www.popguns.com/shotgunaccessories/pistolgrips.htm
I've shot others with a pistol grip a few times and I didn't like it at all.  I think the one in your link, with the optional foregrip, would be a little easier to handle than the ones I fired without a foregrip.
 
I'll have to look into it, but am much more comfortable with the full stock. 
 



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Re:Firearm lovers. 2010/09/22 12:08:54 (permalink)
Always go with what feels the most comfortable. As always, your life depends on it.
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/01 06:04:39 (permalink)
Have any of you had any experience with the Russian "Saiga" 12 ga semi-auto shotguns? I have been thinking about one for awhile, and would appreciate any 'serious' input about reliability, and any 'history of note'. The 10 round box Mag interests me also. This would be a short-barreled Home Defense weapon replacing a Savage Pump 12 ga that will go to a Grandson.
 
A second request is for info about the ROSSI "Replica Winchester 1892" lever-action. 44 Mag, 16" Stainless (also in a 20"). I see them selling for $400-$450 and would like any input you may have regarding this 'Backyard' deer-gun??
 
ALSO, Has anyone had any direct experience dealing with the major on-line firearms dealers, purchasing of a weapon, GunBroker.com or GunsAmerica? or others like them?
 
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/01 11:40:28 (permalink)
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Have any of you had any experience with the Russian "Saiga" 12 ga semi-auto shotguns? I have been thinking about one for awhile, and would appreciate any 'serious' input about reliability, and any 'history of note'. The 10 round box Mag interests me also. This would be a short-barreled Home Defense weapon replacing a Savage Pump 12 ga that will go to a Grandson.

A second request is for info about the ROSSI "Replica Winchester 1892" lever-action. 44 Mag, 16" Stainless (also in a 20"). I see them selling for $400-$450 and would like any input you may have regarding this 'Backyard' deer-gun??

ALSO, Has anyone had any direct experience dealing with the major on-line firearms dealers, purchasing of a weapon, GunBroker.com or GunsAmerica? or others like them?

I cannot give you much on the Saiga except to say I think it's a cool looking shotgun, and that in the People's Republic of Maryland there's a 7 day waiting period as it's not treated like a regular cash-and-carry shotgun.
 
I think that's a pretty good price for the Rossi (for Maryland anyway) and I think it's always good to have a rifle that shoots handgun ammo, esp the .44 mag.
 
I've bought a couple of times on both gunbroker.com and auctionarms.com and have never had any problems.  Like on ebay, do a little research and ask questions.  If it doesn't look/feel/smell right, it probably isn't.  I've never been on GunsAmerica.
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/01 13:15:02 (permalink)
I appreciate your comments. I am at  the looking but not ready to buy yet stage...Just got the new snowblower, so 'toy-shopping' for me is on hold for a little while. This is a good time to 'research the products!.
After years in California, I have come to appreciate Indiana's attitude towards  the whole 2nd Amendment scene.
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/03 00:42:39 (permalink)
Al, the Saiga is a really good(strong) shotgun. It is based on the AK-47 platform. My SIL has one and I've shot his several times. It not a trap or skeet gun but will work fine for birds or deer with slugs. Look for/at the site Saiga-12.com.
 
As for the Rossi 1892 I have one in .357mag, it is a blast to shoot. Probably my favorite .357 of which I have a few.
 
I've bought a few guns off of gunbroker, never had a problem.
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/03 12:04:06 (permalink)
Mike,
Thanks for the feedback. Both the Saiga and the Winchester Replica would have Home-Defense at the top of the 'priority' list for us.
I am weighing the 357 vs the 44 mag in making a choice. Price is about the same. Both come in a Stainless 16 inch or 20 inch barrel version.  I am thinking more along the 44 mag 16' right now, but the 357 would keep the same caliber as my handgun and that could have an advantage when I deal with a very low volume inventory in the ammo box.
The Saiga 12 ga would be a 10 shot home defense wall buster. Alternating Double 'OO' Buckshot with slugs would be as good a crimestopper as I can think of in rural woody Southern Indiana. Our County Sheriff has said several times to the 'Neighborhood Watch groups' that shooting a couple of Burglars is a real deterrent to the rising breaking-in crime rate. I tend to agree with him.
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/03 15:36:39 (permalink)
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Alternating Double 'OO' Buckshot with slugs would be as good a crimestopper as I can think of in rural woody Southern Indiana. Our County Sheriff has said several times to the 'Neighborhood Watch groups' that shooting a couple of Burglars is a real deterrent to the rising breaking-in crime rate. I tend to agree with him.

 
Is it a methamphetamine-fueled crime increase?
 
Does anyone here have a Henry rifle?  I like the looks (and price) of their .22 lever-action model.
 
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/03 15:52:00 (permalink)
Al, if you're going to use a shotgun for home defense you don't need to load any slugs. Really!
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/03 15:55:32 (permalink)
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Alternating Double 'OO' Buckshot with slugs would be as good a crimestopper as I can think of in rural woody Southern Indiana. Our County Sheriff has said several times to the 'Neighborhood Watch groups' that shooting a couple of Burglars is a real deterrent to the rising breaking-in crime rate. I tend to agree with him.


Is it a methamphetamine-fueled crime increase?

Does anyone here have a Henry rifle?  I like the looks (and price) of their .22 lever-action model.

Brad


The Henry is an excellent .22, and a really good value.
 
Edit: I just noticed a local advertisement in which a very good gun shop in Columbus has a .22 Henry lever action for sale at $249.
post edited by Michael Hoffman - 2010/10/03 19:48:00
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/03 16:39:54 (permalink)
I saw a beautiful Brass Henry 22 go for $300 at a local estate auction last week. I thought that was a great deal. it sure was a beauty !!
 
Michael, I guess I am thinking of the 'Slug' as a car-stopper ! Not real serious about that !!
 
Brad, Yeah the city gangboys and some former 'Deliverance cast-members' seem to think that  this area near the county line (my street) offers some relief from the law enforcement from either county. (not true), as we have regular patrols in the area frequently. However, since I am home most days I see a number of unidentified vans and utility trucks 'cruising' on 'non-thru-traffic-streets' seemingly without purpose. This activates my protectionist attitude quite a bit.
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/03 17:42:01 (permalink)
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Michael, I guess I am thinking of the 'Slug' as a car-stopper ! Not real serious about that !!


Well, you said home defense. That doesn't usually include shooting at anything outside the home. Now, if the car is coming through your living room ... 


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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/03 18:55:57 (permalink)
mayor al

Have any of you had any experience with the Russian "Saiga" 12 ga semi-auto shotguns? I have been thinking about one for awhile, and would appreciate any 'serious' input about reliability, and any 'history of note'. The 10 round box Mag interests me also. This would be a short-barreled Home Defense weapon replacing a Savage Pump 12 ga that will go to a Grandson.

A second request is for info about the ROSSI "Replica Winchester 1892" lever-action. 44 Mag, 16" Stainless (also in a 20"). I see them selling for $400-$450 and would like any input you may have regarding this 'Backyard' deer-gun??

ALSO, Has anyone had any direct experience dealing with the major on-line firearms dealers, purchasing of a weapon, GunBroker.com or GunsAmerica? or others like them?



I have a Saiga 12 and have put alot of add ons to it. There is alot of extra stuff available for them. It is an AK shotgun. Check out some of the videos on them. If you do decide to pick one up I can talk you thru ot familiar with them. some of the upgrades. www.mdarms.com sells 20 round drums for them and they are 50% off right not and are selling for $75.00. They also sell a VPLUG which replaces the gas adjuster so you can shoot low brass ammo. They can be a little picky if you are not familiar with them. Once you understand them they are great guns. My Son and I have added alot of stuff to ours and it looks pretty mean. I will post a pic tommorow. PM me if you need some information...Russ
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/03 19:36:05 (permalink)
Thanks Russ. I am not at the 'point of purchase' yet. I think the 10 rd Box Mag will do the job for me. I will look at a laser sight (maybe) and a carry-sling.  I'll keep you in the loop when the time comes for delivery.
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/08 19:08:39 (permalink)
UPDATE
 I ordered the Saiga 12 today for delivery to my local dealer to transfer to me. The process went much easier than I thought it would. This was the first time I used the Internet for purchase of a firearm across state lines.
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/16 14:19:45 (permalink)
My latest addition, fresh from the box. A Saiga 12 Gauge Semi-Auto with the original 5 rd magazine.
 

 
After seeing the potential for excitment here in rural Southern Indiana, my new shotgun showed a little emotional reaction to it's new home !!  Actually that is the optional 10 rd magazine !!! 

 
I will return shortly with the stock and forearm modifications that I have to install. For those not familiar with the Saiga. It is a Russian Shotgun built on the same operating system (and at the same factory) as the AK rifles. It is imported by the Russian American Amory located just 25 miles from my home....in Scottsburg, Indiana. Further shooting reports will follow. There are hundreds of U-tube video's dealing with this shotgun.
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/16 15:11:53 (permalink)
Use it (to keep you) in good health.
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/16 22:59:25 (permalink)
Very nice!
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/17 10:25:37 (permalink)
 
OK, after a day of breaking in the shotgun  and adding it's new appearance and handling materials, it looks more like what I have been seeking.
Here it is "Right out of the Box", with the factory issued 5 rd Mag.
 

 
AND, Here it is this morning, after an evening of stock fitting etc. With the Tapco Stock and forearm, and the 10 rd magazine. It really handles like an AK, if a bit "bigger"!
 

 
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/17 11:03:51 (permalink)
burglars beware of the Mayor's residence.  Al, that is a mean piece.
 
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/17 12:23:24 (permalink)
Al i think I like the color and forearm on yours better than mine. Did you get the gas adjuster and have you shot it yet?
Indiana is a little safer today. Watch out for Zombies!
 
Here are a couple shots of my Saiga 12...Russ
 

 


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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/17 13:23:01 (permalink)
Russ
I am considering two more additions/modifications.
1. The multi-port gas port plug. Everything I read of the factory two-hole port says "Up-grade" !
2. I am looking at inexpensive red-dot optics. I think I will wind up with a side mount (left-side rail on the receiver) short laser sight...but am open to a lot of possibilities.
 
I didn't get a drum, but did go for the 10 rd. mag. How do you like the drum? That's a pretty long rail on top of yours. What is it, and where did you get it?
 
We shot a bunch of low brass Federal bird shot yesterday to break it in. No problem with feed on #1 gas port position. Will do some pumpkin shooting soon to test the buckshot and slugs.
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/17 13:41:34 (permalink)
If yours shoots the low brass out of the box you will have no problem with Slugs and Buckshot and the gas plug change out might not be necessary. The drum is great but the weight is very heavy with 20 rounds. http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/chaos-extended-quad-rail-system-for-saiga-12-preorder-p-1150.html
The scope I put on was a shotgun 2X that I had lying around. I would use it for deer....Russ
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/17 15:03:34 (permalink)
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The scope I put on was a shotgun 2X that I had lying around. I would use it for deer....Russ

 
Not in Ohio, unless you can plug it so that it cannot hold more than three rounds of ammunition. Or, were just referring to using the scope for deer?
 


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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/17 15:09:03 (permalink)
They make a 2 shot magazine. http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/saiga-12-gauge-2-round-magazine-sgm-tactical-surefire-p-437.html. Do you ever go out to Blackwing Michael?...Russ
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/17 15:21:37 (permalink)
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They make a 2 shot magazine. http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/saiga-12-gauge-2-round-magazine-sgm-tactical-surefire-p-437.html. Do you ever go out to Blackwing Michael?...Russ


I'd check with the Division of WIldlife's Law Enforcement section to see whether that would qualify. The fact that one could switch out a two round magazine for a five round magazine might make it illegal.
 
I get up to Blackwing a couple of times a year to bust a few clays.
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/17 17:42:38 (permalink)
I did check the Magazine size limits in Indiana (on-line and with an officer in the field. Except for waterfowl, there are NO limits to the capacity on the gun for hunting. That includes deer and turkey (the only critters I may hunt other than vermin or predetors). Indiana only allows slugs in shotguns for deer...no buckshot. Technically that means I can load up with 10 rounds of #4 shot and nail that turkey  for the holiday dinner !!!  Y'know they can be dangerous when they are only wounded !
Here's the quote from the Indiana DNR website-
"When hunting for migratory game birds and waterfowl (i.e., doves, ducks, geese, woodcock, etc.), it is illegal to use a shotgun capable of holding more than three shells, unless it is plugged with a one-piece filler that is incapable of being removed without disassembling the gun. There are no restrictions on magazine capacity for hunting of any other species."
 
ALSO
 
" Laser sights are legal for hunting all species."
 
Russ,
Does your gun have the factory side plate on the receiver? Some of the side-mount optics I see need a plate added, I have the factory plate on, but it doesn't show the screw holes I see in the quick-release side-mount that comes with the optic sight???
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RE: Firearm lovers mailbox 2010/10/17 18:23:48 (permalink)
Here is a close up of the other side and this product which I also recommend the bolt on charging handle which fits right over the original...Russ
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