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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/17 20:42:59 (permalink)
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I spent a couple 3 hours at a state run range today it's about a 30 minute drive from my home up in the hills above my house. I go there because my membership range doesn't allow rapid fire. I wanted to test out the Ram-Line 50 round 10/22 mags I have. I have 2 that are 10+ years old and 2 that are brand new. The 2 new ones worked fairly well but the 2 old ones were crap. They didn't want to bring the bullet high enough to feed.

MikeS.

I have a couple of those, and while I haven't used them in several years, they did work well at the time.

By the way, speaking of hi-cap magazines. I got word a little while ago that my grandson just qualified Expert during field training exercises in Korea with the M2, M249, Mk 19 and M203. He qualified Expert with the M16 in Basic.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/17 22:00:52 (permalink)
Ok, so what are those?
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/17 22:22:04 (permalink)
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Ok, so what are those?

The M2 is the .50-caliber Browning machine gun. The M249, or SAW, is a 5.56mm (.223-caliber) light machine gun, the Mk 19 is the automatic grenade launcher, which is, in effect, a grenade machine gun, and M203 is the single shot grenade launcher that attaches to an M16.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/18 16:03:22 (permalink)
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Ok, so what are those?


Adult "toys" perfectly described by Mr. Hoffman. These "toys" are one of the reasons IED's are the preferred weapon by the enemy in Iraq. Directly attacked a squad of American servicemen/ servicewomen can "unleash H**l" in a way that almost...almost...makes you feel sorry for the other guys. Call in air support and we are talking a major bad day for the bad guys. So they use explosives in road side devices. Not a cowardly move but a wise one if you want to go home that night.

The Irgun and Haganah waged bombings in the middle forties...Menachem Begin (later Prime Minister if Israel) commanded the bombing of the King David Hotel in July of 1946. This was not a terrorist bombing?

BTW I am Presbyterian. Israel was born from terroist bombings, against the British and the Arabs. I will admit they were a bit more restrained...kill a Jew we kill and Arad.

Time to get off the soap box.

BTW the Uzi is a piece of crap right up there w/ the Chinese AK. Spits out a bunch of bullets but control is almost impossible. The Bulgarian AK is a wonderful milled as opposed to a stamped weapon and actually hits what you aim at. The Brazilian 1911 knock offs are also great pieces.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/21 15:56:19 (permalink)
v960,
better never let peggy hear your thoughts on an uzi. she loves hers and does all the maintance on it. she can rebuild it blindfolded and has practiced with it enough that every round goes to within an inch of aim point at 50 yards. while i do not care for the thing myself i will admit that it goes bang everytime and that's more than i can say for the 16 that i got in 69!!!! 3 shots and jam 3 shots and jam!!! got a 12 gauge wingmaster and the old man sent shells in my care package said he learned the same thing on guadalcanal with an m1!!! to this day i still feel that the suppliers of the early 16's should have been tried and executed as war criminals.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/22 07:23:01 (permalink)
Not a firearm but kinda related;

Understanding Engineers

What is the difference between mechanical
engineers and civil engineers?

Mechanical engineers build weapons and civil
engineers build targets.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/22 08:25:27 (permalink)
Visit http://www.brassfetcher.com for some interesting ballistic gelatin testing. I've been a fan of Speer 135gr 38+p short barrel until last month when I purchased the new Buffalo Bore 150gr Hard Cast Wadcutter self defense ammo.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/22 11:22:05 (permalink)
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v960,
better never let peggy hear your thoughts on an uzi. she loves hers and does all the maintance on it. she can rebuild it blindfolded and has practiced with it enough that every round goes to within an inch of aim point at 50 yards. while i do not care for the thing myself i will admit that it goes bang everytime and that's more than i can say for the 16 that i got in 69!!!! 3 shots and jam 3 shots and jam!!! got a 12 gauge wingmaster and the old man sent shells in my care package said he learned the same thing on guadalcanal with an m1!!! to this day i still feel that the suppliers of the early 16's should have been tried and executed as war criminals.
jack

Jack,
There is a hour long show about the 16 on the History Channel that explains the problems w/ the 16 in the early years. The criminals were in the Army. They changed the gunpowder type, did not even issue cleaning kits to save a few bucks and ended up getting a bunch of guys killed. My AR-15 or my Bulgarian AK has NEVER jammed or malfunctioned. I was almost thankful when someone stole my Uzi and Chinese AK. We keep SK's in the back of our farm trucks and in a holster on our four wheelers (feral dogs are a big problem in piedmont NC). The SK's grow legs at the end of each farm season.

We have one Mexican guy who works for us each year. He takes one of the SK's home each year but brings it back. "It kill the pig good" Last year at the send off party (the workers are seasonal) I gave him a few boxes of handloaded ammo. "This kill the pig faster".

BTW one of the Latino wives actually asked for my tamale recipe..."just like my Mother's tamale" Am I good or what? The recipe is off the back of the masa bag but we use homemade lard and farm raised pork.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/27 09:09:49 (permalink)
I went out and bought a decent Simmons scope for my 10/22 Thursday. Got it mounted and supposedly bore sighted at the gun shop. When I got to the range and started shooting it it wasn't even on the paper. And I was shooting at an 11x13 or even bigger target page at 25 yards.

I'll have to go back, maybe this afternoon, and try again.

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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/27 17:48:38 (permalink)
I'm going to be my true PIA here. Ruger makes sledge hammers. The 10/22 (I own three curently) shoot well but not like a Remington or Kimber.

I can put a thirty round mag in my 10/22 and chase down a feral dog. But a single round in the ten zone isn't going to happen.

I am a NRA life member and a NC lifetime Sportsman...I can shoot and hit what I aim at but a Ruger is an axe when we want a knife. BTW, dropped more varmints w/ my Ruger Ranch rifle than w/ anything else.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/27 17:57:12 (permalink)
I have an accurized 10/22 with a bull barrel and a Leupold 4X scope, and it does pretty well on tacks.

It's not bad on squirrels and woodchucks, either.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/28 00:19:12 (permalink)
V960, why don't ya ship those rotten sledge hammers up here I'll put them to use. I'll bust some cans and milk jugs with them. Which caliber of ranch rifle? I have the mini-30.

I did get back to the range Sunday afternoon and got the scope sighted in. It was wayyyy low and right. I put up a large, 30"x40", piece of kraft paper and at 25 yards was barely on it. I did finally get it tuned in to where I was on the bullseye at 25 yards on a 25y pistol target.

I'll go back tomorrow and reset it for 50 yards. I may have to take some tacks along...

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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/28 00:20:23 (permalink)
Oh yeah, when I want to drive tacks at 100 yards I use my Ruger model 77/22. I prefer the 10/22 though.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/28 11:04:25 (permalink)
Wow I had no idea this was here. I am a part time "wannbe gunsmith" I love to take old guns and restore them. I am a 10/22 junkie, nothing like a 800 dollar .22 . My weapon of choice is a 1911, there is no substitute! I also love my supper blackhawk .44 if I need more stopping power than any of my .45's.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/28 13:38:10 (permalink)
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Wow I had no idea this was here. I am a part time "wannbe gunsmith" I love to take old guns and restore them. I am a 10/22 junkie, nothing like a 800 dollar .22 . My weapon of choice is a 1911, there is no substitute! I also love my supper blackhawk .44 if I need more stopping power than any of my .45's.


Or a $2,500 STI/SVI after all is said and done, BTDT.

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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/28 14:45:47 (permalink)
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Wow I had no idea this was here. I am a part time "wannbe gunsmith" I love to take old guns and restore them. I am a 10/22 junkie, nothing like a 800 dollar .22 . My weapon of choice is a 1911, there is no substitute! I also love my supper blackhawk .44 if I need more stopping power than any of my .45's.


Nahmo, 1st welcome to the forum and 2nd welcome to this thread! As you have probably seen there are several of us that like our firearms. I know I do.

I sure wouldn't put 800 into a 10/22 although I've been thinking about a VQ trigger and possibly a new trigger group. But I sure see where a lot of people put a lot of money into theirs.

"My weapon of choice is a 1911, there is no substitute! "

I'm not a big fan of the 1911 although I have 3 clones of it. A Coonan in .357mag and 2 Colt Double Eagles, 1 in 10mm and the other in .45auto.

Mt favorite .45 is my Springfield XD .45auto
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/28 14:47:03 (permalink)
John, what the heck are you talking about? "Or a $2,500 STI/SVI after all is said and done, BTDT."

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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/28 14:48:29 (permalink)
Better yet we need pictures!
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/28 16:57:56 (permalink)
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V960, why don't ya ship those rotten sledge hammers up here I'll put them to use. I'll bust some cans and milk jugs with them. Which caliber of ranch rifle? I have the mini-30.



They're not rotten sledge hammers but they are sledge hammers,slightly above the fit and finsh of a Chinese AK. I would not have bought three 10/22's if I didn't see a value.

Compare one to a Kimber or even a Remington...forget putting on up against a Browning. I've got four Ruger rifles, (they seem to pay more attention to the M77 than the 10/22) and three pistols. Good but not great stuff.

A Kimber out of the box will shoot ten times better than a tuned Ruger 10/22.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/28 17:41:54 (permalink)
Hi Mike,

RE: Namho's $800 .22. BTDT = Been There, Done That. Had an STI set up for IPSC, between it and the magazines I was into it for about $2,500. One day someone else wanted it more than I and made me an offer I could not refuse.

http://www.brazoscustom.com/sti_guns/sti_executive.htm

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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/28 19:47:28 (permalink)
Thanks John, I didn't know what an STI was.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/29 18:54:01 (permalink)
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V960, why don't ya ship those rotten sledge hammers up here I'll put them to use. I'll bust some cans and milk jugs with them. Which caliber of ranch rifle? I have the mini-30.



They're not rotten sledge hammers but they are sledge hammers,slightly above the fit and finsh of a Chinese AK. I would not have bought three 10/22's if I didn't see a value.

Compare one to a Kimber or even a Remington...forget putting on up against a Browning. I've got four Ruger rifles, (they seem to pay more attention to the M77 than the 10/22) and three pistols. Good but not great stuff.

A Kimber out of the box will shoot ten times better than a tuned Ruger 10/22.
Thats a challenge I would take any day...Dont get me wrong, I love the Kimber .45's and I have never had a Kimber rifle but right at the moment I have three 10/22's that would make the kimber blush.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/30 11:02:57 (permalink)
What can you guys tell me about red dot sights? I see 30mm and 42?mm tubes. Whats the difference?

Do you look through the tube to see the dot?

What size reticle would be good for a .22lr at 50 yards, 4mm or 8mm?

How well do they work in bright daylight?

What else do I need to know?

TIA,

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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/30 16:42:21 (permalink)
I don't know if I'd want a red dot for a .22, especially if you really want accuracy (such as hitting a squirrel at 50 yds.) The red dot is "fairly accurate" but not super accurate, so for 50 yd. shots I'd get a 4X scope on my .22. For a pistol a red dot would be more helpful - again, unless you're shooting x-ring competition. They work in daylight - some have a dimmer to accomodate bright light.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/05/31 07:51:01 (permalink)
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What can you guys tell me about red dot sights? I see 30mm and 42?mm tubes. Whats the difference?

Do you look through the tube to see the dot?

What size reticle would be good for a .22lr at 50 yards, 4mm or 8mm?

How well do they work in bright daylight?

What else do I need to know?

TIA,

MikeS.


Is the .22 set up for mounting a red dot/scope? If so just be sure to get the same size rings as the tube.

You look through the tube just like a scope, you can get much shorter tubes. I've had red dots that are very short. This is a specialized dot used for fast action handgun competitions. You can get good ones for well under $100.00.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/docter-red-dot-sight-third-gen-35-moa.html

For 50 yards get the smaller reticle.

They are fine in bright sunlight.

Best for very fast target acquisition.

Here's a couple of my present ones, this BSA dot was on the AR when I bought it.



Bought this one at a gun show for $50.00, it's mounted on a Browning Highpower .22 Semi Auto. Browning told me they only made seven like this for the 2004 SHOT show.



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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/06/01 07:10:22 (permalink)
I'll give you $100.00 for it right now.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/06/01 07:19:06 (permalink)
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I'll give you $100.00 for it right now.


The red dot, you got it?
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/06/01 18:30:59 (permalink)
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Originally posted by MikeS.

V960, why don't ya ship those rotten sledge hammers up here I'll put them to use. I'll bust some cans and milk jugs with them. Which caliber of ranch rifle? I have the mini-30.



They're not rotten sledge hammers but they are sledge hammers,slightly above the fit and finsh of a Chinese AK. I would not have bought three 10/22's if I didn't see a value.

Compare one to a Kimber or even a Remington...forget putting on up against a Browning. I've got four Ruger rifles, (they seem to pay more attention to the M77 than the 10/22) and three pistols. Good but not great stuff.

A Kimber out of the box will shoot ten times better than a tuned Ruger 10/22.
Thats a challenge I would take any day...Dont get me wrong, I love the Kimber .45's and I have never had a Kimber rifle but right at the moment I have three 10/22's that would make the kimber blush.


I own two basically standard 10/22's (very minor adjustment, trigger jobs and the extended mag release) and one that I, IMHO, foolishly had tuned (bull barrel, stoned action and trigger jobs). I own a pre-bankrupcy .22 Kimber that is unreal in fit, finish and accuracy. I think the world of Ruger's products but it is like comparing a Porsche to a Ford to compare a Ruger to a Kimber. Just my opinion, but I own all of the above...cars and weapons.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/06/02 08:26:27 (permalink)
I was looking at the kimber rifles online(very sweet), I do plan to own one some day but the foolish thing is to think its better because it cost more. The main thing you need to remember is "its not the arrow, its the Indian" Like I said...I would take that challenge any day!

I had to edit this because it didn't sound right to me. I am in no way insulting your Kimber. I have just seen so many high priced guns at the range get put away early because they were not out shooting the others.
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RE: Firearm lovers. 2007/06/02 18:05:48 (permalink)
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I was looking at the kimber rifles online(very sweet), I do plan to own one some day but the foolish thing is to think its better because it cost more. The main thing you need to remember is "its not the arrow, its the Indian" Like I said...I would take that challenge any day!

I had to edit this because it didn't sound right to me. I am in no way insulting your Kimber. I have just seen so many high priced guns at the range get put away early because they were not out shooting the others.


"I have just seen so many high priced guns at the range get put away early because they were not out shooting the others."

Namho, No disrespect toward you but as you said, "its not the arrow, its the Indian".



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