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daddywoofdawg
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/12 02:14:34
Belcibo: did you ever get nite photos of your outside lighting?I'm thinking hard about getting some.
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/12 07:53:37
I have not, maybe this weekend.  I still have not installed the final part of the electrical, the power cord.
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/16 14:31:40
buffy1711

Where did you get the cutting board insert for your sink? I've looked many places and they are very expensive. I have a full sink in my truck and need more workable space. Any ideas?

Ordered my piece today locally from interstate Plastics.  3/4" thick, 15 1/2" x 31 1/2" was $45 with a one day turn around.
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/16 14:54:46
Electrical Panel
 

BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/16 14:56:24
Interior to date.  Getting close.

BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/16 14:59:22
Sinks and water heater, one sink has not arrived yet:

 
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/16 15:00:12
Lots more coming just have not had time to post pictures, up against our opening deadline.
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/23 10:38:30
Inspection is this Thursday with our first event Saturday, coming down to the last minute getting everything working properly.  Promise I'll post lots of pictures after (if) I get through this weekend.
 
Propane regulator issues, leaking fresh water fitting, pilot light on fryer not lighting, little stuff just running out of time!
 
stinger159
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/23 23:42:23
Love the truck and good luck with the inspection
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/24 11:11:40
A few Issues Resolved:
 
For my propane system I ran my two 100lb tanks to a single stage 1, then the output to the individual appliances.  
 
The appliances would turn on and run for around 10 seconds and turn off.  The appliance regulators were being over pressured and shutting off.  
 
I found was a mistake I made with the regulator setup.  For those that don't know, you need a stage 1 and a stage 2 regulator THEN the appliance regulator.  The appliance regulator do not count as your stage two.  They are design to see around 11WC input.  Added the stage 2 and everything worked.
 
My Pitco fryer pilot would not light.  Removed the pilot tube and cleaned out the jet which is VERY small.  After that the pilot worked fine.
 
My on demand water heater failed to light as well.  I could hear ticking but it was giving me a gas pressure error code.  Removed the front cover and found the harness to the gas solenoid was not connected.  Reconnected and it worked as well.  Smoking hot, it hits 150F.
 
Now we are ready for the inspector tomorrow.
fishscale28
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/25 01:14:38
Good deal getting the loose ends taken care of and best of luck with the inspector!,

Cheers!
daddywoofdawg
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/25 04:19:11
I have to check my appliances this month,There all new to me,Not even sure how to light them.anyone have tips/how to, please post or IM me. Hoping the snow will go away so I can get out there.
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/25 18:30:27
We have passed our initial inspection!  Inspector said the truck looks great.
 
One issue found, the top of our cold table is running at 38 but the lower section is 41/42.  Its max'd out so looks like it needs a charge.  Used unit, buyer beware I suppose.
Our freezer unit runs as a fridge as well so it will be plan B until the Cold Table gets fixed.
He also recommended we close the gap between the hood and the roof.
 
First event is Saturday, I'll start posting pictures next week after the madness is over.
Rcoy
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/25 20:41:25
Awesome, Nice setup and great pics. Hope your first event is awesome.
 
I just got approval for my build so will be beginning shortly. Hope I can document ours as well as you did.
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/28 22:55:41
Our first day is over now.  Not long after we arrived the inspector showed up for our first real world inspection.  Everything passed with no findings.  He cautioned us on not having an AC unit installed, said something we should think about adding.
 
Started the morning at the Farmer's Market as the newbies.  Sold a few breakfasts but the rush hit around 11am and lasted until probably 12:30.  We had long lines, saw some people leave the line, but had lots of praises on the food and were told the food was raising quite a stir around the market.  We had several that came back and ordered more.  Cycle times were way too slow as we figured out our system.  Checking the order times on Square Register, which worked great by the way, we were around 3 minutes per order. All the equipment worked, layout needs some tweaking but overall it was a fast paced thrill of a ride.

 
And most of all as they say, Happy wife..happy life!


post edited by BelCibo - 2013/04/28 22:57:39
SantacruzTacoCo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/28 23:03:45
right on!!!
as long as the wife is happy don't care what anyone else says! 
daddywoofdawg
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/29 04:13:14
What are you using for a receipt printer?and where and how much I need to get one this month.
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/30 08:08:20
daddywoofdawg

What are you using for a receipt printer?and where and how much I need to get one this month.

 
Ah receipt printer.  Here's the latest on that.  The printer is an ethernet and the only ones Square recommends are ethernet.  The trick is to get your 4G/3G phone or MIFI to an ethernet port.  The way I plan on doing it is either use my phone as a hotspot or buy a MIFI.  Then get a Cradlepoint MBR95 that will take the  Cell phones wifi and get it onto the ethernet.  The printer will direct plug into the router, the Ipad will hit the router wirelessly.  Wala, printed reciepts, order numbers, chef tickets etc.  I should have mine up in a few weeks and can share the results and how to set it up. We are adjusting layout for this weekend and its just not high enough on the priority list.
 
MIFI is also coming out with a hotspot that has ethernet the second week of May.  That will allow you to eliminate an extra piece of gear.
 
 
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/30 08:12:17
daddywoofdawg

Belcibo: did you ever get nite photos of your outside lighting?I'm thinking hard about getting some.

 
Still have not got a night shot for you.  With it pitch black they are ok, particularly on the lighter colors.  If you were in a lighted parking lot they would only add a hint of light to the side. Plenty to light a menu board.  I'd say they are not as bright as a 60 watt porch light.
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/30 08:18:26
Another piece of advice based on our build.  We are a full service unit with no commisary.  We boiled some noodles, ran around 2 gallons of coffee,washed hands and dishes.  At the end of the day we ran out of water before cleaning all our steam pans.  Filling three sinks takes a ton of water.  We went with a 20 gallon fresh water tank, hindsight it should have been 30+.
daddywoofdawg
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/30 08:20:50
doesn't your Ipad have 3/4G?
Ya I need to light the menu and marqee so maybe those aren't the answer.
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/04/30 12:10:38
daddywoofdawg

doesn't your Ipad have 3/4G?
Ya I need to light the menu and marqee so maybe those aren't the answer.

 
Our Ipad is not connected to our cell plan.  You somehow have to get your internet service to an ethernet port so the printer can get on your network.  That's where the router comes in, running in bridge mode I believe.
BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/06 07:57:02
Finished the second Farmer's Market now.  Sales were up slightly.  Around 1/2 our customers last time were friends, this time only four or five.  Lots of return customers from last week raving about the food. Turns times were much better and the line never got more than two people deep even with higher volume.
 
An observation though, lines are GOOD.  When there is a line it sucks people right in, no line you can see their reluctance to walk up.  Gonna have to pay a couple people to make a line lol.
 
At first we were not going to setup tables but now it is a must.  When someone is eating at the tables you can watch new customers peering over their shoulders to see the food.  I even heard a couple conversations were they recommended the food to those looking.
 
An interesting menu moment....We raised the price on our Blackened Fish sandwich one dollar making the highest price item.  Volume on it doubled from last week and it sold out.  Strange aye?
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/16 22:39:59
Finally some pictures:

 

 

 

 

 
Dgaviolac
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/17 08:16:57
How did you mount the griddle to the work table?
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/17 09:16:56
Dgaviolac

How did you mount the griddle to the work table?

 
I used Speedrail bases to mount all the tables and freezer to the floor then the two burner and the grill to the table.  They are too expensive from grainer but here's a picture of them:
 
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/HOLLAENDER-Structural-Fitting-4UJ14
Bistro a go-go
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/17 18:57:03
cpl quick questions:
1 propane tank or two?  what was the layout of the tank to equipment piping sizes?  where did you get and how much for propane regulators? what do u ask for when buying them?  did u put a/c?  how many btus on all equipment?  what size generator?  whats ur menu? can u post it? truck looks good. how long start to finish? cheers mates
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/17 19:27:16
Two 100lb propane tanks off an RV under mounted behind the rear tires.  To meet my BTU requirements at low temperatures, I needed two tanks to meet the vaporization rates needed.
 
280k BTU wide open
 
Flexible hose from tank valve to 1/2" black pipe.  1/2" black pipe to a Fisher Two Stage RS232BBF ($40). 1/2" black pipe to a tee, one leg 1/2" to on demand water heater, one leg to service appliances.  3/4" pipe from 1/2" once it entered the CAB.  5/8 yellow flex pipe from Home Depot from the 3/4" black pipe to the appliance regulators.
 
Regulator needs to meet your BTU requirements. The Fisher listed above will flow 350k.
 
No AC.  I wired for it but I'm not sure it will do any good.  I have 3000CFM going through the exhaust hood, that's like 4 changes a minute of air.  AC will be little more than a little cold air blowing in your face.  I may still add one for non-cooking times.
 
Generator is a 6000w Kipor that actually has died on me.  Working on replacements now but will be a EU3000is Honda and a second one if I add AC. Three year commercial warranty is hard to beat.
 
Started Truck in November.  Worked every Saturday and weeknights until I could not feel my feet any more :)
 
Menu is:
Chicken Sandwich
Fish Sandwich
Pork Sandwich
Grilled Mac and Cheese
Italian Melt (Grilled italian cheeses with veggies)
Potato Balls
Ribbon Fries
Apple Fries
 
There are a few more items but you get the idea.  Not all items available at every service.  3 or 4 mains and three sides.
 
If venue will be low volume we go with the grilled sandwiches, mob style events will be faster steam table sandwiches like the chicken and pork.
Buck & Vi's
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/18 06:44:06
I've got the I pad and square register app on and I am going to be using the square register for my p.o.s. system they have a great "free" one, easy, all set up just waiting for a printer. as I recall square only has 2 receipt printers that will work with there system. I had the numbers but cant seem to locate them right now (I think tsp 143 lan.) but only need the I pad, wireless router, and Ethernet printer only Ethernet printer will work for this system, I was fortunate enough to have the company  we are located at furnish us with a wi fi connection for the I pad too. I down loaded pictures for the menu and installed them on the I pad, really quite easy and makes it easier associate pic instead of words....
Buck & Vi's
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/18 06:52:56
belcibo, whats the idea on 2 hand sinks? also that 3 compartment sink cover looks pretty heavy duty, (thick) custom? i need to get one about 70"long...
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/18 07:35:58
Buck & Vi's

belcibo, whats the idea on 2 hand sinks? also that 3 compartment sink cover looks pretty heavy duty, (thick) custom? i need to get one about 70"long...

We did not want to deal with a commisary and idaho allows it if you are a full service unit.  To comply to have to have a three bay wash sink, handwash sink and a food prep sink.
 
The cover is custom cut.  I bought 3/4" not realizing how thick that was.  1/2" would have been fine.
BelCibo
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Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/18 07:40:37
Buck & Vi's

I've got the I pad and square register app on and I am going to be using the square register for my p.o.s. system they have a great "free" one, easy, all set up just waiting for a printer. as I recall square only has 2 receipt printers that will work with there system. I had the numbers but cant seem to locate them right now (I think tsp 143 lan.) but only need the I pad, wireless router, and Ethernet printer only Ethernet printer will work for this system, I was fortunate enough to have the company  we are located at furnish us with a wi fi connection for the I pad too. I down loaded pictures for the menu and installed them on the I pad, really quite easy and makes it easier associate pic instead of words....

Could not be happier with the Square Register.  Easy to setup, use, gives me hourly sales comparisons from previous days, and processes cards in a couple seconds.  We don't have the printer setup yet, very soon.  One tip is that we bought an off the shelf cash drawer not listed as square compatible and it works just fine with the printer.
http://www.staples.com/MMF-Industries-VAL-u-Line-Small-Size-Cash-Drawer/product_IM1F59024
 
printer is a TSP143L. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003O91EUY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
post edited by BelCibo - 2013/05/18 07:51:57
daddywoofdawg
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/18 23:38:39
I don't understand why they say a certain cash drawer, because it's fired off the printer not the software.If the printer gets a signal that says fire off the cash drawer all that matters is that the printer can talk to the cash drawer.
Buck & Vi's
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/19 05:57:55
if no commissary, where do they allow you to dump your gray water? and take on fresh?
BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/19 09:05:15
Buck & Vi's

if no commissary, where do they allow you to dump your gray water? and take on fresh?

 
It has to be an approved source which in my case is an RV dump station for water and waste.
BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/19 22:58:25
Facebook is up.  Any suggestions you guys would make?
 
https://www.facebook.com/belcibotruck
 
fishscale28
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/19 23:15:11
Looking good!  Im sure you'll have the likes and followers rolling in.  Keep it up with posting often and lots of pics and you'll be golden!
 
BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/23 22:51:22
Propane tank pictures, two different side tanks shown, 100lbrs. Both craigslist finds, If I remember right one was $40 and the other $80.  Doors from an RV shop, $25ea.


 
 
 
post edited by BelCibo - 2013/05/23 22:55:31
kingofcreams
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/28 11:38:59
BelCibo

Buck & Vi's

I've got the I pad and square register app on and I am going to be using the square register for my p.o.s. system they have a great "free" one, easy, all set up just waiting for a printer. as I recall square only has 2 receipt printers that will work with there system. I had the numbers but cant seem to locate them right now (I think tsp 143 lan.) but only need the I pad, wireless router, and Ethernet printer only Ethernet printer will work for this system, I was fortunate enough to have the company  we are located at furnish us with a wi fi connection for the I pad too. I down loaded pictures for the menu and installed them on the I pad, really quite easy and makes it easier associate pic instead of words....

Could not be happier with the Square Register.  Easy to setup, use, gives me hourly sales comparisons from previous days, and processes cards in a couple seconds.  We don't have the printer setup yet, very soon.  One tip is that we bought an off the shelf cash drawer not listed as square compatible and it works just fine with the printer.
http://www.staples.com/MMF-Industries-VAL-u-Line-Small-Size-Cash-Drawer/product_IM1F59024

printer is a TSP143L. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003O91EUY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Everything looks very good! Congrats. I wanted to chime in on the Square service. I used them all last year. Worked great. Now this year, I was about to run a clients deposit through for a private booking and suddenly the card portion would not operate and I got a message telling me that I am no longer authorized to accept credit cards. After emailing them, (there is no phone customer service) I was told that for security reasons they could tell me why but that my credit card authorization was deactivated and that the decision was final. After that I started searching for Square complaints online and man there are alot out there. I'm just giving everyone a heads up on Square.  
chefbuba
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/28 14:35:42
I have been using square for about two years, never had a problem.
kingofcreams
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/29 09:31:33
chefbuba

I have been using square for about two years, never had a problem.


Thats good. I can't say what happened cause they wouldn't tell me. I'm currently getting set up with Salesvu. Same type format as Square (2.75% swipe fees) but you actually set up a merchant account and they do inventory managment so once you set it all up  you'll know what you have for inventory etc. Also, it tracks employee shifts and all that. We'll see how it goes. I havent used it yet. I did like square but can't use it for CC'd now.
BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/05/29 11:25:53
On the square topic, I ordered the new MIFI Router that Verizon just came out with that has an ethernet port on it.  I will have it working for this weekend's service and will let you guys know how it worked.  That will give me printed tickets and a working cash drawer.  We are currently writing out a ticket, then entering into square register.  This will eliminate a step and the cook will be able to read my writing :)
 
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/device/usb-modem/verizon-4g-lte-router
 
On another note, we had our best event ever Memorial day.  During our peak hour we got out 40 meals, all cooked to order, a record for us newbies.  1/2 the sandwiches are grilled so we were pretty happy with that.  We didn't have a line the whole hour so we could have got a handful more out.  Our current goal is to do 60 per hour.
post edited by BelCibo - 2013/05/29 11:31:54
BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/07/15 21:03:43
Not on here much anymore, too busy prepping and cleaning, not busy enough selling! Thought I'd share our latest news.
 
We just passed our 1000th customer a couple weeks ago, got mentioned in a local paper, were in the background of a news cast, and just passed 100 likes on FB.  Small things but a big deal to us.  
 
I admire the guys that have been doing this for years, to say its a tough business is an understatement.  We're still excited, the food has been great and our customers are giving us rave reviews, what more could you want?....maybe some sleep lol.
 
http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/bel-cibo-rolls-out-in-nampa/Content?oid=2894170
 
http://www.ktvb.com/home/Melba-fireworks-keep-getting-bigger--214338011.html
kapowtruck
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/11/09 16:48:46
Hey Belcibo,
 
Everything looks awesome. Do you have an access door for your genny? If you have a pic that would be awesome!
 
BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/11/10 23:32:14
BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/11/10 23:34:01
Here are the final graphics on the service side.  Looks fantastic and was exactly what we wanted.

BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/11/11 00:13:42
Also wanted to update on the square.  We are using the printer to print the chef's ticket and customer number.  It is working great.  We can hit 60 orders an hour now so it really helps.  You can also type in custom comments like hold the mayo etc.
kapowtruck
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/11/11 09:30:33
BelCibo

Also wanted to update on the square.  We are using the printer to print the chef's ticket and customer number.  It is working great.  We can hit 60 orders an hour now so it really helps.  You can also type in custom comments like hold the mayo etc.

 
Thanks for posting that. I was looking for an access panel and the prices blew my mind. Now I can just have my welder reuse the panel! Thanks for saving me money.
 
On square do you have 2 epson printers or one with dual paper? Are you using your phone as a POS? I was looking at this for my IPAD POS https:// itunes.apple .com /us/app/mikan-pos-restaurant-point/id617942190?mt=8
BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/11/11 10:00:16
Just one printer.  It prints the chef ticket with a number on it and the customer number together.  The customer number is cut almost all the way across so it tears easy. Chef ticket goes to the rail, number goes to the customer.  The chef ticket also has a time stamp on it which is nice to monitor turn times.  
We had a guy that complained about waiting over 10 minutes for his food, the ticket showed me he had been waiting four minutes.  Of course I did not share that with him but at least I knew the truth. 
 
Another option is to type their name on the order and it will print out on the chef ticket.  It takes longer to type the name but when you are giving orders out by number people can get grumpy when a later number gets served first.  We have some 1 minute sandwiches and our fried goods are done to order so they take 3 minutes.
BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2013/11/11 10:02:44
Originally I was going to trim the door to hide the cut lines but ended up leaving it as is.  Trimming it would also draw your eye to the door.  You'd have to really be looking close to see or even care they are not perfect.
j.lamboy
Hamburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2014/06/10 20:53:10
Hi, Im starting a build also. I like this window that you installed. Where did you buy it from and how much?
 
kozyman1
Junior Burger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2014/06/11 22:00:41
He bought the window at Home Depot...not sure of the price..it is 3 ft by 8 ft
j.lamboy
Hamburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2014/06/12 22:51:18
got a quote from my local glass shop for a 3ft x 7ft for $299.00...
j.lamboy
Hamburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2014/06/12 22:51:57
would like to see how he generator box came out..
BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2014/06/13 13:33:02
I'll have to get you a new picture of the genny box completed.
j.lamboy
Hamburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2014/06/15 17:14:40
That would be great.. Im looking to start mine next week. Would like to know how you mounted everything.. I want to put mines the same way you have yours.
BelCibo
Cheeseburger
Re:Food Truck Build 1979 P60 2014/06/26 23:55:31
Pics of Genny:




 
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