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the ancient mariner

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Football is becoming basketball Sat, 11/6/10 4:12 PM (permalink)
What is going on?  Michigan beats Illinois 60 something to 60 something.  
Every time you get the ball you go the length of the field and score and then
the other guys do the same.   I learned to hate basketball for that reason,
and now football is going in the same direction. 
 
We go from silly soccer games where no one scores to sillier football games where there is no defense at all.  Does anyone play defense any more?
 
Oh well Zenyatta is on soon ----she had better win.
 
 
 
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    mr chips

    Re:Football is becoming basketball Sat, 11/6/10 4:30 PM (permalink)
    Neither Michigan nor illinois is very good.
     
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      Davydd

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      Re:Football is becoming basketball Sat, 11/6/10 4:39 PM (permalink)
      It was a triple overtime game and Michigan beat Illinois 67 to 65 because they made their 2 pointer and Illinois didn't. The regulation time ended in a 45 to 45 tie.
       
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        saps

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        Re:Football is becoming basketball Sat, 11/6/10 5:25 PM (permalink)
        mr chips


        Neither Michigan nor illinois is very good.

         
        No they really aren't.  But they are playing tougher schedules than Oregon.  Most teams are.

         
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          ScreamingChicken

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          Re:Football is becoming basketball Sat, 11/6/10 5:56 PM (permalink)
          The last time Illinois and Michigan played basketball the score was only 51-44...
           
          Brad
           
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            the ancient mariner

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            Re:Football is becoming basketball Sat, 11/6/10 5:59 PM (permalink)
            Thanks funny, Brad. 
             
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              ScreamingChicken

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              Re:Football is becoming basketball Sat, 11/6/10 6:05 PM (permalink)
              With a final score of 67-65 you'd think a whole bunch of league records would've been set but so far I haven't seen any mentioned, so apparently they've all been at the school level.
               
              If that's really the case I'm wondering what Big Ten game featured more than 132 points or also had both teams scoring more than 60!
               
              I guess Illinois' freshman QB is supposed to be pretty good; I heard he was one of the top high schoolers coming out of Missouri last year.
               
              Brad
              <message edited by Brad_Olson on Sat, 11/6/10 6:08 PM>
               
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                mr chips

                Re:Football is becoming basketball Sat, 11/6/10 8:09 PM (permalink)
                saps


                mr chips


                Neither Michigan nor illinois is very good.


                No they really aren't.  But they are playing tougher schedules than Oregon.  Most teams are.

                 
                 Envy is one of the 7 deadly sins.
                 
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                  saps

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                  Re:Football is becoming basketball Sat, 11/6/10 9:15 PM (permalink)
                  I'm not envious.  I'm not even an SEC fan of any kind, but Auburn should clearly be first.  There are too many teams (Oregon, TCU, Boise State, Utah) that are highly rated because they are playing such weak schedules.  Utah, was exposed today, by another team playing a cush schedule- Utah should drop out of the top 20.
                   
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                    mr chips

                    Re:Football is becoming basketball Sat, 11/6/10 10:43 PM (permalink)
                    And today Auburn played traditional powerhouse Chatanooga. USC and Stanford are very good teams and Oregon beat them both. And Oregon crushed SEC's Tennessee which had a fluky close loss to LSU, conqueror of Alabama.  The PAC 10 is not a weak conference and I've grown a little weary of hearing how it is. It's not like the SEC's Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, South Carolina or Mississippi are significantly better better than their PAC 10 counterparts and this year Florida and Alabama are not the powerhouses of the past. I think the one legitimate anti-Oregon arguement is that Oregon does not play a conference title game which is a trap awaiting the best SEC teams.
                     
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                      mr chips

                      Re:Football is becoming basketball Sat, 11/6/10 10:51 PM (permalink)
                      I forgot that Auburn's  strong schedule this year includes Louisiana-Monroe and Arkansas State, traditional NCAA powerhouses that I'm sure Oregon would have had to struggle to defeat. And Auburn barely defeated the 5-4 Clemson Tigers of the weak sister ACC. The argument that Auburn has played a much tougher schedule than Oregon does not stand up to scrutiny .
                      <message edited by mr chips on Sat, 11/6/10 10:59 PM>
                       
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                        saps

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                        Re:Football is becoming basketball Sun, 11/7/10 12:07 AM (permalink)
                        Auburn has had to beat presently ranked teams Arkansas, South Carolina, Mississippi State, and LSU, with Alabama still to come.  Oregon?  They've beaten what looks like a good Stanford team and a middling and unranked USC team that hasn't even beaten a ranked opponent, and has only beaten 2 teams with winning records.  USC is not a very good team this year, and nor is the PAC-10 as a conference.  Oregon may yet be very good, but there just isn't as much proof of it with Stanford as their only quality win.
                         
                        I suppose it's convenient to gloss over the 4 ranked teams that Auburn has played and beaten, and point out the weaker teams that they played, while ignoring Oregon's wins over patsies like New Mexico and Portland State.  Crushing two-win Tennessee is no great shakes.  Its quite clear that Oregon has played a weaker schedule, and 6 rated SEC teams to 3 rated PAC-10 teams with good teams like Georgia and Florida unrated bear that out. 
                         
                        The PAC-10 is more similar to the ACC than it is to the SEC.
                         
                         
                         
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                          mr chips

                          Re:Football is becoming basketball Sun, 11/7/10 2:34 AM (permalink)
                          SEC apologists always think it is the best conference and i do not doubt that Auburn is a very good team. Oregon, like all of the SEC teams, has played some cream puffs this year, which makes some of its numbers a little suspect. I'm not even sure that Oregon will beat Cal and Oregon State on the road or Arizona at home. I hope Oregon will win out and play another good team for the title. My hope is that it will be Boise State or TCU just so I can hear the howls of SEC fans that their two loss seasons are far superior to any unbeaten season in another conference.And I wish there was a division one playoff so this discussion would be pointless.
                          <message edited by mr chips on Sun, 11/7/10 10:24 PM>
                           
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                            BillyB

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                            Re:Football is becoming basketball Sun, 11/7/10 8:59 AM (permalink)
                            Mr Chips, Auburn is going down against Alabama. I don't know if how they can keep TCU out of the national title................Alabama will want that win real bad.............................I would like to see TCU & Oregon..Bill
                             
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                              the ancient mariner

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                              Re:Football is becoming basketball Sun, 11/7/10 10:19 AM (permalink)
                              With scores going crazy ----i.e. Navy 76 points yesterday, Boise and TCU
                              averaging 50 points -----I think football has changed.  Defense is an afterthought, or offenses  have just become too good.  
                               
                              The Michigan-Illinois game was crazy.  But, I guess it is more fun to watch that game than a 0-0 thriller.  One ting is for sure----no one can sit down at a game anymore---a TD can be scored from any point on the field at any moment.   
                               
                              Oregon----Auburn---TCU ---- Boise all look good for the National Championship
                              but what in the world happened to Texas----Kansas St had 0 (nada, nil,
                              none, zero) yards passing and beat Texas by 40 points---- Hard to figure.
                               
                              Penn St down 21-0 comes back and scores 35 in the 2nd half to win the big one for JoePa.  Way to go (out) Joe.
                               
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                                mr chips

                                Re:Football is becoming basketball Sun, 11/7/10 10:22 PM (permalink)
                                Congrats to JoePa. He has had a tremendous careeer,
                                 
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                                  saps

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                                  Re:Football is becoming basketball Sun, 11/7/10 11:53 PM (permalink)
                                  I don't like the SEC and I think their fans can be pretty obnoxious (especially the Gators).  It's bothersome that teams like TCU, BSU and Utah can play easy schedules, win out, and then wait for better teams to get picked off as they move up in the rankings.  Oregon did beat a tough Stanford team, but they just don't have the body of work to justify their #1 ranking, while a team like Auburn has beaten 4 ranked teams, with a game still to come against Alabama plus a potential SEC championship game.  Meanwhile, TCU and Boise State play no one while they wait for Auburn to take a fall  from their difficult schedule.  I don't put Oregon in with TCU and Boise State.
                                   
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