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blizzardstormus

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French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 11/9/05 4:41 PM (permalink)
In my restaurant, most of my food is made on premises, but, I fear making my own fries due to 2 concerns: 1) most recipes I have encountered call for a substantial time factor to make a good homemade fry - & 2)homemade fries are great to eat at the restaurant but suck for TO GO orders.
I currently use a Stealth Fry from Sysco- very pricey, but, very good. Any suggestions for making my own fries?
 
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    Sundancer7

    RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 11/9/05 4:46 PM (permalink)
    Can you cut them the evening before and store them in water overnight?
    Use a five gallon container and fill it with water.

    Nothing taste like a real potato.

    I would think that they would be pretty cheap buying them in bulk and running them through a slicer.

    I personally like them with the peel on.

    Paul E. Smith
    Knoxville, TN
     
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      Theedge

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      RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 11/9/05 5:07 PM (permalink)
      Fresh cut are the best. At home I rinse mine and then let them sit in ice water before frying. I think this is the best way to go, but if your client is expecting a “fast food style” fry they might not be very happy. Why not keep doing what you’re doing, but hand out some free samples of fresh cut and ask your customers what they think?
       
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        V960

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        RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 11/9/05 5:16 PM (permalink)
        To have a trueely great "pomme fritte" you have to cut them, wash them, dry them, fry @ 325 and then again at 375. Worth the trouble? Ask a Frenchie or Belgiquie (sp).
         
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          chicagostyledog

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          RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 11/9/05 5:36 PM (permalink)
          The best fries I ever ate were in Amsterdam. Here's the secret recipe:
          http://www.belgianfries.com/index.cfm?Module=recept1
          For the best taste, fry in duck or goose fat(very expensive)or lard(beef tallow). The oil is the most important factor determining taste.
           
          #5
            Sundancer7

            RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 11/9/05 5:40 PM (permalink)
            Chicago. Thanks for the link.

            Paul E. smith
            Knoxville, TN
             
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              V960

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              RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 11/9/05 5:45 PM (permalink)
              My directions are as detailed as I get. Basically the same and mine was from memory...a dangerous thing for me.
               
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                EdSails

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                RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 11/9/05 6:03 PM (permalink)
                Check out how In-n-Out Burger does theirs. They cut them fresh----and they go through a ton of them!
                 
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                  -Tricky-

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                  RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 11/9/05 7:37 PM (permalink)
                  blizzard, I honestly think they're worth it. Even if you just buy one of those manual slicers and slice them and fry them, they're better than any frozen product you can buy and pretty darn cheap. I never order fries a second time if they're not "real".
                   
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                    Burgerman1

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                    RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 11/9/05 8:13 PM (permalink)
                    blizzard....here's my .02 worth!

                    Hell yeah they are a lot better...some tweaking of the type of potato, type of oil, receipe, and size and I'll guarantee you'll have a winner.

                    The bad part, we have trained the customers to the frozen stuff, that's what they expect, but is that really a bad thing? Look at it this way, by using real potatoes and cutting them you'll have a product that is GOOD, most of your competitors won't...you'll have a USP!!

                    Howard
                     
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                      bassrocker4u2

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                      RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Thu, 11/10/05 9:15 AM (permalink)
                      we have been making home-made fries for three years now. remember, we have no employees, so it has to be easy. just wrap and bake potatos(idaho works best) the night before(at home) or the day before(at work) and chill. once chilled, cut them lenghthwise, by hand into steak fries. fry til desired crisp in cheap oil, sprinkle on seasoning salt, and serve.
                      we now go through 200 pounds or more in a 5 day work week(keep in mind, 7 other side dishes). i usually cut and portion(deli wrap) about a box at a time. shelf life is great!
                      be careful with sysco....they want to rid the whole world of its money...heehee
                      u.s. foods will beat their prices, every time\
                       
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                        Copperhedzkettle

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                        RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Thu, 11/10/05 9:36 AM (permalink)
                        quote:
                        Originally posted by bassrocker4u2

                        we have been making home-made fries for three years now. remember, we have no employees, so it has to be easy. just wrap and bake potatos(idaho works best) the night before(at home) or the day before(at work) and chill. once chilled, cut them lenghthwise, by hand into steak fries. fry til desired crisp in cheap oil, sprinkle on seasoning salt, and serve.
                        we now go through 200 pounds or more in a 5 day work week(keep in mind, 7 other side dishes). i usually cut and portion(deli wrap) about a box at a time. shelf life is great!
                        be careful with sysco....they want to rid the whole world of its money...heehee
                        u.s. foods will beat their prices, every time



                        What a wonderful idea, Bass! I never thought of that.

                        I like the gold colored Tates that taste so buttery. Yummy. Can't recall the name right now, but they are delicious, and I like mine with the skins on.

                        Nothing beats Taters. Hashbrowns for breakfast, fries for lunch and baked for Supper. Ideal.

                        Copper
                         
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                          blizzardstormus

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                          RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Thu, 11/10/05 6:46 PM (permalink)
                          Bassrocker, your idea is a good one. We do a steak fry like yours and serve with homemade Ranch dressing. Customers love them & food cost is phenomenal. We also use our extra baked potatoes to make our hashbrowns. What an improvement over frozen. And don't even start on dehydrated hashbrowns.
                          This afternoo I received a French Fry cutter from another restaurant owner who didn't want it (it's brand new). I will be experimenting with homemade fries. I'll try any suggestion posted here & let you know the results.
                           
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                            Fieldthistle

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                            RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Fri, 11/11/05 1:25 PM (permalink)
                            Hello All,
                            Bassrocker, I am a lover of French Fries and admire you that you are thinking of having "homemade" fries rather than frozen, processed ones. In my family, I am the one that makes French Fries and try to maintain a consistent flavour and quality.
                            Remember, I am not a real French Fry maker, but I play one in my family.
                            1. I've discovered that the age of the potato really determines the quality of the fries. New potatoes have a different flavour, texture, and even a different amount of time to fry them to get just right taste than middle-aged potatoes or older ones. I am serious that the age of the potatoes produces different results and need different frying techniques. I prefer older potatoes.
                            2. The same can be said as far as the age of the oil, lard or whatever you fry the potatoes in. I hate new oil. The fries have a different flavour with the age of oil, which I am sure you already know.
                            3. I am sure you know that the type of potato also determines the taste, texture, frying time, etc., but which would you pick that would create a "brand" flavour for you eatery. Certain potatoes tastes better with certain foods. I prefer Yukon Gold, while my family prefers Idaho. Eating out, I may not be able to determine where the potato came from, but when I make them at home, I can tell the difference, (and so can my family) where that potato came from.
                            4. I hand peel and slice, but of course you would have to purchase equipment to peel and slice the potatoes in order to lessen labour intensity. Personally, the lack of uniformity gives homemade fries a certain charm, but also can increase waste.
                            As I said, I just make them at home. It boggles my mind how a busy eatery can make homemade fries without charging more because of the labour involved. But I just cook at home and do not use French Fry peelers or cutters.
                            And also, to go or delivered fries do lose charm when they are cold. You can't really enjoy homemade fries cold or microwaved.
                            Take Care,
                            Fieldthistle
                             
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                              V960

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                              RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Fri, 11/11/05 4:15 PM (permalink)
                              Fieelstistle...you are the man! Aging potaoes? Seriously, you are my hero!!! Not a easily attained stature around here.
                               
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                                eaglerich

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                                RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Sun, 11/13/05 4:09 AM (permalink)
                                Blizzardstormus, you are correct. Fresh made fries are delicious hot and fresh from the fryer, but they are inedible after a 10 minute drive home in a paper bag.
                                 
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                                  -Tricky-

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                                  RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Sun, 11/13/05 12:03 PM (permalink)
                                  quote:
                                  Originally posted by eaglerich

                                  Fresh made fries are delicious hot and fresh from the fryer, but they are inedible after a 10 minute drive home in a paper bag.

                                  But so are frozen fries.
                                   
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                                    V960

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                                    RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Sun, 11/13/05 3:31 PM (permalink)
                                    EEnglish I must disgree. Fresh made is always better. Sorry my fingers don't work as well as they used to.
                                     
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                                      Greyghost

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                                      RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Sun, 11/13/05 4:38 PM (permalink)
                                      Keep it real. If you have first rate fries word will get around. People will come just for the great fries. I know I would.
                                       
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                                        ScreenBear

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                                        RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Fri, 02/24/06 10:58 PM (permalink)
                                        Good fries are memorable. As many here agree, for all the talk of the dogs at Pittsburgh's Original O, everyone is in agreement about how wonderful their fries are.

                                        Incidentally, the fries at Amazing Hot Dog, 148A Bloomfield Ave., Verona, New Jersey, are quite delightful. See John Fox's post under NJ Hot Dogs for the complete review.
                                        The Bear
                                         
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                                          lo-in -the -keys

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                                          RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Sat, 02/25/06 7:27 PM (permalink)
                                          Yeah, I'm so glad to see someone else talking about the "O" s fries.
                                          If you are asking if they are worth it? It's worth going to PGH and trying for your self!!. They are the best, I need to go back home and get some before they're not there anymore
                                           
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                                            Burgerman1

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                                            RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Sun, 02/26/06 12:41 AM (permalink)
                                            If anyone is interested...Northern Tool Company has a potato cutter in stock. I think it's running about $40. The unit that I saw was pretty substantial...not quiet as heavy duty as the professional but would do considering the price of most food equipment companies. They also have a website for anyone that doesn't have a store near them.
                                             
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                                              lunasatic

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                                              RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Tue, 02/28/06 2:22 PM (permalink)
                                              quote:
                                              Originally posted by Copperhedzkettle

                                              quote:
                                              Originally posted by bassrocker4u2

                                              we have been making home-made fries for three years now. remember, we have no employees, so it has to be easy. just wrap and bake potatos(idaho works best) the night before(at home) or the day before(at work) and chill. once chilled, cut them lenghthwise, by hand into steak fries. fry til desired crisp in cheap oil, sprinkle on seasoning salt, and serve.
                                              we now go through 200 pounds or more in a 5 day work week(keep in mind, 7 other side dishes). i usually cut and portion(deli wrap) about a box at a time. shelf life is great!
                                              be careful with sysco....they want to rid the whole world of its money...heehee
                                              u.s. foods will beat their prices, every time



                                              What a wonderful idea, Bass! I never thought of that.

                                              I like the gold colored Tates that taste so buttery. Yummy. Can't recall the name right now, but they are delicious, and I like mine with the skins on.

                                              Nothing beats Taters. Hashbrowns for breakfast, fries for lunch and baked for Supper. Ideal.

                                              Copper



                                              I think you're referring to Yukon Golds-somewhat pricey down here, but well worth it!
                                               
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                                                drsmoke02

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                                                RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Tue, 02/28/06 4:52 PM (permalink)
                                                quote:
                                                Originally posted by bassrocker4u2

                                                we have been making home-made fries for three years now. remember, we have no employees, so it has to be easy. just wrap and bake potatos(idaho works best) the night before(at home) or the day before(at work) and chill. once chilled, cut them lenghthwise, by hand into steak fries. fry til desired crisp in cheap oil, sprinkle on seasoning salt, and serve.
                                                we now go through 200 pounds or more in a 5 day work week(keep in mind, 7 other side dishes). i usually cut and portion(deli wrap) about a box at a time. shelf life is great!
                                                be careful with sysco....they want to rid the whole world of its money...heehee
                                                u.s. foods will beat their prices, every time



                                                Bass,can you use a french fry cutter on the baked potato after its cold or does it fall apart if you try? great way to eliminate 2 stage frying.
                                                 
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                                                  BTB

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                                                  RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 03/1/06 6:24 PM (permalink)
                                                  Please, please, please, try serving the fresh cut fries, even tho it maybe a little more work to prepare. I'm a professional customer and we're allowed to peek into this forum every once in a while. I just love fresh cut french fries and I'll alway remember which restaurants have them and go out of my way to get them along with my meal.

                                                  One sandwich shop nearby has the best fresh cut fries and while their sandwiches are good, there's another sandwich shop down the road that serves a little better sandwich, but not the fresh cut fries. They just fry up the frozen quick fries, nothing special, so I will invariably go to the shop with the fresh cut fries instead.

                                                  Believe me, there are alot of us out there that crave fresh cut fries. I had such a hankering for them from reading the responses to this forum that I cooked some up for dinner today. I tried Klondike Gold for the first time, soaked them for an hour or two in the refrigerator (with ice), and did the double fry thing. Boy, they were outstanding.
                                                   
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                                                    Burgerman1

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                                                    RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 03/1/06 7:11 PM (permalink)
                                                    There are several places in my hometown that serves fresh cut fries. One place has fairly crispy fries, but of course 10 mins in a bag and they are limp, tasty but limp. The other place has soft fries, often called greasy...they actually taste better than the first place.

                                                    So tell me how do you perfer your homecut fries? Crispy, somewhat cripsy, or limp?

                                                     
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                                                      Adjudicator

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                                                      RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Wed, 03/1/06 7:31 PM (permalink)
                                                      Let's face it. Most all fries are good right out of the fryer, homemade or not. Why would anyone eat them any other way?
                                                       
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                                                        bassrocker4u2

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                                                        RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Thu, 03/2/06 8:03 AM (permalink)
                                                        dr smoke
                                                        nah, i dont use a fry cutter. i like the hand cut appeal, plus its so much faster to do by hand. unwrap, cut in half lengthwise. cut each half into 4-6 pieces. i use a butcher knife. on a good day, i can do 50 pounds, cut and wrapped, under 30 min. but..... i dont have many good days anymore....
                                                         
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                                                          V960

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                                                          RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Thu, 03/2/06 8:21 AM (permalink)
                                                          The pomme frittes from a road side trailer in Belgium are ten times better than any ff I've had in the states.
                                                           
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                                                            hefried

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                                                            RE: French fries: Are homemade fries worth effort? Thu, 03/2/06 3:41 PM (permalink)
                                                            YA use a fry cutter!just wash the tato's and don't peel..... and PAR COOK the fries, take them out of the oil and RE FRY until crisp just before serving.
                                                            Homemade(or handmade) fried taste rockin'good when done right but insipid when not. be sure to teach your fry cooks WHAT a crispy fresh french fry should be like..........
                                                             
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