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Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Mon, 07/30/07 1:26 PM
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In a recent interview with TV Guide Chef Gordon Ramsey revealed his true feelings about McDonald's. TV Guide: You're driving down a highway and you're hungry. You see a McDonald's on the side of the road. Do you stop for a Big Mac? Ramsay: My friend, I'd rather eat a f--king cow-pie sandwich.
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Tony Bad
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Mon, 07/30/07 3:10 PM
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quote:Originally posted by hatteras04 In a recent interview with TV Guide Chef Gordon Ramsey revealed his true feelings about McDonald's. TV Guide: You're driving down a highway and you're hungry. You see a McDonald's on the side of the road. Do you stop for a Big Mac? Ramsay: My friend, I'd rather eat a f--king cow-pie sandwich. I bet if I put down a big mac and a cow pie, and told him he had to eat one, it wouldn't be the cow pie. I also find it interesting that a guy who participates in junk food TV would be so tough on the food equivalent of his TV garbage.
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Big_Ted
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Sat, 08/4/07 11:35 PM
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Or if he went into a McDonald's and talked to the employees there the way he does on tv, what would happen to him? I've seen folks decked in fast food kitchens for that behavior.
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Scorereader
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Mon, 08/6/07 11:35 AM
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I don't think Ramsay's opinion is any different than some of our own roadfood people's opinion.
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Tony Bad
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Mon, 08/6/07 12:56 PM
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quote:Originally posted by Scorereader I don't think Ramsay's opinion is any different than some of our own roadfood people's opinion. Really? I know many who don't like fast food...but cow dung? I'd like a show of hands of who'd really prefer that.
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Scorereader
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Mon, 08/6/07 5:45 PM
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quote:Originally posted by Tony Bad quote:Originally posted by Scorereader I don't think Ramsay's opinion is any different than some of our own roadfood people's opinion. Really? I know many who don't like fast food...but cow dung? I'd like a show of hands of who'd really prefer that. it's the sentiment. I think the sentiment is shared by many. Clearly, you don't like Ramsay, which is fine. But I find it hard to believe one could be so short-minded to actually take him literally - or to formulate one's arguement in a way that makes it appear that one is taking him literally. Frankly, it makes one look unlearned to not find the true sentiment inside of the language. Exaggeration is often used as a literary tool to make one's point more emphatically. I'd like a show of hands of those who would be so obtuse as to take him literally. I'm guessing yours is the only hand in the air.
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Tony Bad
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Mon, 08/6/07 7:37 PM
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quote:Originally posted by Scorereader I'd like a show of hands of those who would be so obtuse as to take him literally. I'm guessing yours is the only hand in the air. Wow, thanks for clearing that up for lil' ol' obtuse, unlearned me.
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Tue, 08/7/07 10:18 AM
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quote:Originally posted by Tony Bad quote:Originally posted by Scorereader I'd like a show of hands of those who would be so obtuse as to take him literally. I'm guessing yours is the only hand in the air. Wow, thanks for clearing that up for lil' ol' obtuse, unlearned me. that's nice. Be a smart-aleck and then play the martyr.
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Tony Bad
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Tue, 08/7/07 10:43 AM
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quote:Originally posted by Scorereader that's nice. Be a smart-aleck and then play the martyr. Martyr? Please read back and notice who took this rather benign topic to the level of labeling someone. Ever consider the possibility my comments were made "as a literary tool to make one's point more emphatically"? I find it silly when people feel compelled to resort to such profane and overly dramatic utterances to simply say, "I don't like fast food". Good for him, I don't much care for it either, and if asked I say that instead of making some smart aleck, smarmy comment like he made. McDonald's is dull and of marginal quality, but it isn't poison. I guess he is obligated to say it that way though, as he seems to be a one trick pony and has to stay in character when the cameras (or tape recorders) are rolling. I am glad his 15 minutes are almost up. To quote the words of a wise person...I find it hard to believe one could be so short-minded to actually take me literally!
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Tue, 08/7/07 11:13 AM
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quote:Originally posted by Tony Bad quote:Originally posted by Scorereader that's nice. Be a smart-aleck and then play the martyr. Martyr? Please read back and notice who took this rather benign topic to the level of labeling someone. Ever consider the possibility my comments were made "as a literary tool to make one's point more emphatically"? I find it silly when people feel compelled to resort to such profane and overly dramatic utterances to simply say, "I don't like fast food". Good for him, I don't much care for it either, and if asked I say that instead of making some smart aleck, smarmy comment like he made. McDonald's is dull and of marginal quality, but it isn't poison. I guess he is obligated to say it that way though, as he seems to be a one trick pony and has to stay in character when the cameras (or tape recorders) are rolling. I am glad his 15 minutes are almost up. To quote the words of a wise person...I find it hard to believe one could be so short-minded to actually take me literally! I posted my comments because of you're smart-alecky post, "Really?...I'd like a show of hands...  " Don't twist this around. The truth is, you don't like Gordon Ramsay, so no matter what he says, you'd be against him. He makes an exaggerated comment, and you pounce on him for it. I see nothing wrong with what he said. There's no reason he can't be emphatic. You play the high road that you wouldn't make " smarmy" comments, but at the same time make a wise-aleck comment "I'd like a show of hands...," which puts you in the same smarmy group. So, apparently you can make smarmy comments, but he can't. I never considered the fact that your "comments were made as a literary tool to make one's point more emphatically," because you didn't use exaggeration in your argument. You have to actually use exaggeration as a literary tool before you can claim that you're using it. The comment, "I bet if I put down a big mac and a cow pie, and told him he had to eat one, it wouldn't be the cow pie," is non-figurative, not exaggeration.
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Tue, 08/7/07 11:53 AM
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quote:Originally posted by Scorereader I posted my comments because of you're smart-alecky post, "Really?...I'd like a show of hands...  " Don't twist this around. The truth is, you don't like Gordon Ramsay, so no matter what he says, you'd be against him. He makes an exaggerated comment, and you pounce on him for it. I see nothing wrong with what he said. There's no reason he can't be emphatic. You play the high road that you wouldn't make " smarmy" comments, but at the same time make a wise-aleck comment "I'd like a show of hands...," which puts you in the same smarmy group. So, apparently you can make smarmy comments, but he can't. I never considered the fact that your "comments were made as a literary tool to make one's point more emphatically," because you didn't use exaggeration in your argument. You have to actually use exaggeration as a literary tool before you can claim that you're using it. The comment, "I bet if I put down a big mac and a cow pie, and told him he had to eat one, it wouldn't be the cow pie," is non-figurative, not exaggeration. I find it surprising and disappointing you have gone into attack mode over something so silly. I don't really care much about this guy and haven't given him the mental space you seem to think I have. I saw him for a few minutes and felt he was a loud mouth blow hard. That said, I would respond the same way if one of my co-workers or friends made such a comment. I find over dramatic comments like that pointless and irritating. Whether you want to believe it or not, my comment was something way less than serious. I would have thought most would have seen it that way. Sorry you did not.
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Tue, 08/7/07 12:11 PM
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quote:Originally posted by Tony Bad quote:Originally posted by Scorereader I posted my comments because of you're smart-alecky post, "Really?...I'd like a show of hands...  " Don't twist this around. The truth is, you don't like Gordon Ramsay, so no matter what he says, you'd be against him. He makes an exaggerated comment, and you pounce on him for it. I see nothing wrong with what he said. There's no reason he can't be emphatic. You play the high road that you wouldn't make " smarmy" comments, but at the same time make a wise-aleck comment "I'd like a show of hands...," which puts you in the same smarmy group. So, apparently you can make smarmy comments, but he can't. I never considered the fact that your "comments were made as a literary tool to make one's point more emphatically," because you didn't use exaggeration in your argument. You have to actually use exaggeration as a literary tool before you can claim that you're using it. The comment, "I bet if I put down a big mac and a cow pie, and told him he had to eat one, it wouldn't be the cow pie," is non-figurative, not exaggeration. I find it surprising and disappointing you have gone into attack mode over something so silly. I don't really care much about this guy and haven't given him the mental space you seem to think I have. I saw him for a few minutes and felt he was a loud mouth blow hard. That said, I would respond the same way if one of my co-workers or friends made such a comment. I find over dramatic comments like that pointless and irritating. Whether you want to believe it or not, my comment was something way less than serious. I would have thought most would have seen it that way. Sorry you did not. So, you saw him for only a few minutes and have already decided he was a loud mouth and blow hard? In only a few minutes you've decided that all he does is "tv garbage?" That certainly explains why you'd react to his simple comment that way. It's hard to believe you'd react the same way to friends if they merely exaggerated their loathing for something. Look Tony, I simply stated that many on this board feel the same way about fast food that Ramsay does. You seemed to think that nobody could feel the same way because noone would actually eat cow crap. What happened next, is I pointed out that one shouldn't be so literal. The way you directed your own smarmy comment, sounded like a jab at me for simply stating that Ramsay's opinion is commonly shared (that is the opinion that McDonald's isn't worth eating). The fact is, that sentiment is true for many. The only reason you're even arguing the point is because in just a few minutes of viewing his show, you've already got it in your head that he's a blow hard.
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Tony Bad
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Tue, 08/7/07 12:22 PM
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quote:Originally posted by Scorereader The way you directed your own smarmy comment, sounded like a jab at me for simply stating that Ramsay's opinion is commonly shared (that is the opinion that McDonald's isn't worth eating). I didn't mean it that way, but see how you took it. Sorry. As for Ramsay, a few minutes was enough. I don't find people berating others to be very entertaining. Obviously some do.
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Tue, 08/7/07 12:37 PM
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quote:Originally posted by Tony Bad quote:Originally posted by Scorereader The way you directed your own smarmy comment, sounded like a jab at me for simply stating that Ramsay's opinion is commonly shared (that is the opinion that McDonald's isn't worth eating). I didn't mean it that way, but see how you took it. Sorry. As for Ramsay, a few minutes was enough. I don't find people berating others to be very entertaining. Obviously some do. I'm in the middle. I would find it extremely entertaining if it was my most recent ex-boss he was berating.
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Scorereader
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RE: Gordon Ramsey on McDonald's
Tue, 08/7/07 12:52 PM
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quote:Originally posted by Tony Bad quote:Originally posted by Scorereader The way you directed your own smarmy comment, sounded like a jab at me for simply stating that Ramsay's opinion is commonly shared (that is the opinion that McDonald's isn't worth eating). I didn't mean it that way, but see how you took it. Sorry. As for Ramsay, a few minutes was enough. I don't find people berating others to be very entertaining. Obviously some do. his isn't the only reality shows that feature yelling as the main ingredient. Nevertheless, it's all entertainment. I don't take Ramsay's antics any more seriously that Howard Stern (who is a complete goofball) Ramsay has a brash personality, it's not personal. Being from NY, I've met many people like him. It's all bark. He yells, so what. He also, laughs and jokes and bonds with those who work hard. They'll never show that side of him on tv - not for too many minutes anyways. Besides, the contestants know exactly what they are getting into. It's no secret. They're there for their own notariety. They can't truely get pissed when Ramsay balls them out. With the success of Hell's Kitchen, now finishing its 3rd season,(which I don't care for, expecially compared to Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmare, which was a pretty good show.) I think his fifteen minutes will be extended a bit longer. Much to the dismay of some, I'm sure.
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