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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/07/10 20:58:59 (permalink)
Dearfolk,
Regarding steak houses, I have a news flash. The construction company doing Pilgreen's renovation on Lee Street, S/W in Atlanta went bankrupt; this has stopped the planned reopening. Alas, we've lost a good one: the legalities will take a good while to work out, so all concerned just threw in the proverbial towel.
But not to worry. Pilgreen's has two other considerably more fernladen and/or less surrealistically charming locations on the Southside in Metro Atlanta... one is at 6335 Jonesboro Road in Morrow; the other is at 1720 Lake Dow Road in McDonough - at Lake Dow, wherever that is.
This just proves that sometimes the best places hang by a thread.
Chucking The Idea Of Going Back There, Ort. Carlton in rumbly Athens, Georgia.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/07/11 17:27:41 (permalink)
Bern's in Tampa is also on my best list. Be sure to take the kitchen and wine cellar tour and then go upstairs for dessert.

In Chicago, I also like Gene and Georgetti's and Gibson's.

In Las Vegas, The Steak House in the Circus Circus Hotel. The Palm in Las Vegas also has a great lunch special. It's about $12 for a filet, potatoes, salad, etc. A steal for the quality of steak you get. They are in the Forum Shops Mall.

In St. Louis, though it's not a steak house per se, I'm partial to the steaks at Al's. Also have had good bone-in prime rib at Mike Shannon's.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/07/14 12:48:51 (permalink)
Michael, I second your nomination of Does Eat Place. Went last Saturday on a little snacking tour of the Delta (parents live in it). Went to Interstate BBQ for early morning snack, Abes in Clarksdale for a can of Tamales (got two to go), Does for a real meal (steak and Tamales and my boys had spaghetti which is really good) and just for fun went across the river to Rhodas and got more tamales just for a comparison. Stopped n Mer Rouge, La for some soft serve and went to my Mama's where we had a big crawfish thing. Later that night I exploded
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/07/15 04:48:23 (permalink)
Here's my top five. I thought I'd include a little more information than normal for people (like me) who budget their cash.
For the little $ signs, here's the rating system:
$ = Inexpensive, $8-15 per person
$$ = Average, $16-25 per person
$$$ = Moderately expensive, $26-30 per person
$$$$ = Very expensive, $36-45 per person
$$$$$ = Extremely expensive, $46 and up per person
Per person = cost if you eat 1 appetizer, 1 entree with its sides, and a soda.

1. The Ranch Steakhouse in Oklahoma City ($$$$). Absolutely amazing steaks, appetizers are really something else.

2. Lawry's The Prime Rib in Chicago ($$$$). Excellent prime rib, they treat you like a king at this place. Excellent meal for the money spent.

3. The Saloon in Chicago ($$$). Very good steaks. I love how the chef at this place gives you a crash course in choosing a steak for your dinner. Worth every penny.

4. Zeno's Motel and Steak House in Rolla, MO ($$). Outstanding service. Servers typically receive at least a 20% tip from me here. Prime rib is superb. Has the best sauteed mushrooms I've ever eaten.

5. Indian Hills Steaks in Norman, OK ($$). Prime rib is far above average for a very average price. Fries are seasoned and crispy, which merits an above average score in my book any day.

A note about Lawry's - if you order soda, refills are not free, so it's $2.50 for every glass of Pepsi they bring you :)

And here's the bottom of the list - there's only one here because all the other places that would make this list are chains.

1. Danny's Steak House in Norman, OK ($$$$$). Steak was really not worth it. Appetizers flavors were way out of balance. When you can smell the garlic on the bruschetta from two tables over, something's wrong. I spent nearly $50 here on a steak, 1 appetizer, and a drink. If the steak had been juicy and flavorful, this place might have not made this list - but when you order a steak medium and get a hunk of charcoal there's some serious issues here.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/07/15 08:19:07 (permalink)
In Atlanta, "Bones" ($$$$+ as above) is wonderful, excellent service to go with the great steaks. Super garlic mashed potatoes and bread. Grilled tuna is too bogged down in sauce, but good flavor. Everything is a la carte but worth it if you want a excellent piece of beef on occasion. Ruth Chris now has 3 locations.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/07/15 09:07:24 (permalink)
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chezkatie,
Next time you are in the Prime Rib, say hello to my brother (John). He has rtended bar there for years. He also buys their wines and booze.


I can hardly wait to go there again and will certainly say hello to John. It will be fun!
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/07/15 19:05:56 (permalink)
If you all ever get to Knoxville, you need to try "Ye Olde Steakhouse". It originally was on Chapman highway on the way to Gatlinburg, but burn't a week or so before Christmas. They did a miraculous thing and reopened in just a few days in the old L & N Railway station downton Knoxville.

Unbelieveably, it opened better than it was. Their serve their steak in some type of steak juice that enhances the flavor of the steak and they serve you a huge jug of their cheese.

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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/07/17 16:21:38 (permalink)
My all-time favorite restaurant, all time greatest eating experience ever: Bern's Steak House in Tampa. It was also here where I was turned onto Ridge Montebello Vineyard in Cupertino California. I have sampled almost every vintage in my 5 trips to Berns: I can't find it anywhere else. 12,000 wines, including the desert wines, but if I had to drink water, the steak alone would be worth it. The chart, the specifications the steak is cooked with, the lobster tank in the kitchen, the desert room with the 5000 desert wines and bananas foster tray, and .. and ... and ....! It's overwhelming, and transcends mere dining. The after dinner tour in the wine basement, the jacket classifications the waiters use, etc everything here hints at a staff that is obsessed with perfection.
My second choice, and I mention it only because no one else has on this thread: Ben Benson's in midtown Manhattan. I went here for my bachelor party, and have never been so quite completely stuffed in my life. I had 2 martinis, and they were made so strong, I don't quite remember how the night ended there.
My most desired place to try: Doe's in Greenwood Mississippi. I have heard so many roadfooders rave about the place, and when I am on vacation in the area, will drive the required mileage just to try it.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/07/17 17:41:37 (permalink)
In Los Angeles:

1. Pacific Dining Car...well aged steaks, old fashioned obsequious waiters (who speak French with my mother!), and ambiance like nowhere else in Los Angeles. 1310 West 6th Street (Bad neighborhood, but good valet and security)

2. Taylor's Prime Steaks...unbelievable prime rib. Very "old boys club" mood. Holdouts are still having the three martini lunch at the next table. 3361 West 8th Street (Another not so stellar hood, easy to miss the drab exterior...an oasis in the desert).

3. Geo Petrellis...would you like a steak with that whiskey? I can't imagine what it must be like actually being able to see without the haze now that LA has a restaurant smoking ban. 50 year old institution
5615 Sepulveda, Culver City (adjacent to Fox Hills Mall).

4. The Dresden Room...my local haunt. The interior was designed by a yacht designer. The cool wood design and large comfy booths embrace you like mother's lap. Career waiters and a maitre 'd who check on you just enough. Artichoke hearts fried in olive oil...filet mignon, insanely rich sauces. Most hipsters who flock into the bar for the kitschy warblings of Marty and Elaine never think to look around the corner, so it is blessedly uncrowded. 1760 N Vermont Avenue www.thedresden.com

VENTURA: Landmark 78, a relatively new kid on the block, but home to what we lovingly refer to as The Best Steak in the World. I don't know where they get it, or what they do with that filet mignon, but it beats all the old boys mentioned above. 211 East Santa Clara
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/07/17 19:56:44 (permalink)
I agree with your choices, Elise. Taylors is great. And I love Landmark 78, which also holds the distinction of being a true "haunted house". Maybe the ghosts help "scare" the meat into early aging! Their boulliabase is also excellent. In back on Main Street is my other favorite there------Jonathan's at Peiranos. The Grilled Ahi with Morroccan Charmoula sauce is excellent
and the Portugese Crab Bisque a must. He also makes a killer martini at the tapas/martini bar that he opened next door.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/07/20 23:22:18 (permalink)
Hillbilly and Lone Star -

Great call on Johnny's Steakhouse in Omaha and Zuenter's Daughter in San Angelo.

There's something about going into Johnny's the night before a Nebraska football game. Love to see those pictures of prime beef up on the walls. An interesting piece of trivia about the place is that it was the scene for Jack Nicholson's retirement dinner in "About Schmidt."

San Angelo is the center of the steak belt in Texas. It prompted a classic comment from former Houston Oilers kicker Tony Fritsch was still active and the team was training at Angelo State. Fritsch said the only thing that made San Angelo tolerable was that it was where you could find a "happy hour for steaks at almost every restaurant." Zuetner's is great because of their steak medallions, about five or six heart-shaped nuggets to an order. And they also have a "steak salad" for lunch which is exactly what you would think, a tossed salad with chunks of prime beef crowning the delicious order.

But for an underrated favorite for all of the reporters who cover the Big 12, try the Fifty Yard Line in Lubbock. The meal starts with a shot of beef bouillon, followed by some homemade pickles, hot peppers and carrot strips. Then comes the meat - my favorite is a perfectly-seasoned pepper steak cooked medium-rare. Great potatoes and the rest, but the piece d'resistance are their piping hot blueberry muffins and cheese rolls. Be sure to watch for the pictures of a svelte Bill Parcells on the wall when he was coaching Tech back in the 1970s.

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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/07/21 12:44:24 (permalink)
While I realize a steakhouse located in rural southeast Arkansas is an oddity for including here, I again this past Thursday evening had opportunity to dine at Layne's Steak House in The Village shopping center just south of the small country town of Star City, AR. And, once again, Layne's proved to me that it is worthy of inclusion in a forum titled "Great Steakhouses". Its steaks certainly rate right up there with those of the "big boys", and its smoked prime rib is absoutely the most delicious and most perfect that I've ever eaten anywhere. The Bakery in The Village continues to turn out its many varieties of deliciious breads and pasteries, and all the various retail and service shops there continue to offer their wide varieties of quality and unusual merchandise and services with levels of customer service and care extremely seldom found anywhere this day and age. More out-of-state first time visitors to The Village with me Thursday were as impressed with quality of food at Layne's and merchandise offerings at shops there as have been all other visitors I've taken or sent there - and these visitors left with significant purchases (such as lamps, leather, and large taxidermied pieces) they had been seeking but unabale to find elsewhere but which found there. They were pretty well loaded down on their journeys back home "up north". For much more details re Layne's and The Village see my 6/3/03 "Southeast Arkansas Recommendations" post under the "Where Should I Eat" forum. Also, Star City's new (and first decent) motel will soon be ready for occupancy. Again, I recommend Layne's Steak House, other eateries, and the shops at The Village as highly as possile to everyone. Liketoeat
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/07 12:42:50 (permalink)
Here's a warning for anyone dining in NYC: I recently went to Smith & Wollensky's for the first time in quite a while. I was shocked -- shocked -- by what a horrible meal I had. The steak was almost inedible -- and I don't mean inedible by expensive steak house standards (the steak was around $30 or more, I believe). I mean inedible by TGI Friday's standards, or Denny's standards. My wife's baked potato was as hard as a rock, and our broccoli was ice cold. But those two things were only on the table to humor my wife...it's the steak that appalled me. I left $150 lighter in the wallet, and starving.

I don't know what happened. I used to consider S&W upper echelon in the Manhattan steak house scene. Are they losing quality control now that they're a chain? Is there new management? My wife recently met someone who used to work in the meat-selling business in this area. He mentioned that there's one steak house that has begun buying inferior meat and then passing it off as higher quality. When pressed, he said it was S&W (this was unprompted: my wife never mentioned our experience.) I have NO IDEA whether that's true or not, and am not claiming it is. But, it sure tasted that way.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/10 17:23:23 (permalink)
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I continue to be amazed at the culinary knowledge of the popsters at Roadfood.com. Im sure many of you have a favorite steak house. How about it. Thanks
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/10 17:43:15 (permalink)
My favorite steakhouses include :: The Chicago Chop House in Chicago (an old time feel with many interesting pictures on your walk to the table); Del Friscos in Orlando (a place to go in Orlando to get away from the tourists and eat in a good ole steakhouse); Del Friscos in New York City (very spacious and light decor which make for an enjoyable experience. Slightly more expensive than its Orlando location); Arthur's Steak House in Morris Plains, NJ (you can't beat the value and the 24 oz steak isn't the only large portion for a low price. dinner for two here without drinks will run under $35) and Michael Jordan's @ Mohegan Sun Casino (what is even better are the ribs at the Jordan Cafe next to the restaurant)
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/11 09:34:20 (permalink)
Last night I made my first visit to Peter Luger's in Brooklyn. I now have to displace one of my top 5. It is probably my number 1 purely for the traditional steak, but I can't move it ahead of the Chateaubriand at Angus Barn (Raleigh), Johnny's (Omaha) or Staley's (Winston Salem).
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/11 10:38:48 (permalink)
I'm sorry to hear about Phil's experience at S&W. My wife and I ate luunch at the Grill last week and had a terrific meal, although it did set us back $175. It is sad to say, but I do think that tourists get a different class of service, and sometimes food, than locals and regulars. In the Restaurant, we always requested a table with Hank (he's just been married and moved to Las Vegas, and working at the S&W there) and got wonderful service. As with most restaurants, establish a relationship with your server goes a long way to fast service and hot food.

My favorites are Peter Lugers, Far Western Tavern, the Hitching Post, Gallaghers (NY), and S&W (NY). We go to S&W's because my wife loves the creamed spinach and the coconut cake. Our two girls love the Champagne they get -- Ginger ale in flutes. When the get it right S&W is one of the best.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/11 11:26:01 (permalink)
Hillbilly,
Do you know if Angus Barn in Raleigh is related in anyway to one in Williamsburg, VA. I went to college in Charlottesville and remember either an Angus or Aberdeen Barn there and seem to remember that they were all related but had to have different names to comply with the liquor laws.

As to Peter Luger, feel like writing more about your meal there?? I'd love to hear it. Never been, but close to making a trip to NY primarily to eat there.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/11 12:31:53 (permalink)
I would have to 2nd Peter Luger's.
Morton's of Chicago has a Boston location-had a great Porterhouse there.
Paul, I missed out on Ye Old Steakhouse on my trip to Knoxville, located next to the Convention Ctr.
I would have to add The House of Prime Rib in San Francisco, and of course, Durgin Park in Boston to my list for their Prime Rib selections.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/11 14:47:30 (permalink)
Signman:
I don't know whether the Angus Barn in Raleigh had any other locations, but it is entirely possible. I know that the founder, Thad Eure, Jr.(his father, Thad Sr., was North Carolina's elected Secretarty of State for 52 years), established other chains (Winston's, Fat Daddy's and others) around the Carolina's but I am not aware of any other steahouse ventures. The Raleigh facility has one of the premier wine cellars in the south in addition to being one of the very best steak houses. It is located in a big red barn on highway 70 between Raleigh and Durham.
For Peter Luger's, I suggest that you go to the Roadfood home page and look over Michael's 2001 review and all of the accompanying pictures. That was part of my preparation. And it didn't hurt than ZAGAT's has listed them as the best NY steakhouse every year since 1989. MAKE YOUR RESERVATIONS WELL IN ADVANCE!
Our experience went thus:
My son and his girlfriend, who live in Manhattan, were with my wife and me so we were in the New York groove. The service was not chatty, but responsive. They don't give you anything, including a menu, until you ask for it--but sophisticated New Yorker son was prepared for this. Everything, naturally, was ala carte, but I prefer that to having someone else determine what I am getting with my meat. The appetizers-salad for 2 which was actually enough for 4 (great house dressing), HUGE slices of tomatoes and onions (see picture on Roadfood home page), and thick sliced bacon started us off with high expectations for the rest of the meal. After observing the size of the portions being brought to surrounding tables, the ladies decided that we didn't necessarily need 4 steaks, so we ordered "Porterhouse for 3", medium rare. AND, just as we finished the appetizers, the 4 1/2 pounds of meat arrives, sizzling, pre-cut and on a platter tilted (by placing a small ash tray under one corner) so a half cup or more of the juices pooled up in the lower corner. The meat was perfectly medium rare, charred on both sides. There was a unanimous "WOW" from the 4 of us with the first bite. They say that they have great steak sauce, but we couldn't tell you about that. The only sauce any of us used was to occasionally dip the meat we had on our forks into the pooled juices. It would have been treasonous to have used any kind of sauce on this meat. A very reasonably priced (less than $20 per bottle) beaujolais complemented the steak perfectly. AND THEN--CHEESECAKE!! Although not produced in house (but they did give us the name of the bakery), we were again unanimous in our opinion that this was the best we have ever eaten.

total bill? $186.00 including tax. $220.00 including tip. CASH (or established house account) ONLY, NO CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED!


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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/11 15:21:47 (permalink)
Thanks Hillbilly. You've confirmed what all the reviews write.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/11 15:26:56 (permalink)
I agree with the Luger's fans; it's my favorite.

By the way, Willly, I live in NYC, a few blocks from S&W. So, I don't believe I was being given the "tourist treatment." In fact, we were talking with the waiter about something that had happened in the neighborhood a day before. But, I do appreciate your regrets about my experience. I've had great meals there before, too.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/11 16:49:18 (permalink)
I may be a bit biased since i worked for them for 6 years, but as a steak (and steakhouse) connoisseur, Morton's of Chicago has an amazing steak. Unfortunately, most everything else on the menu doesn't live up to the quality of the steaks.

Once I did put together my dream steakhouse dinner with steaks from Morton's, and appetizer's, salad, and side orders (hash browns & creamed spinach, oh my) from the Palm.

While you lose the ambiance of single owner-operated steakhouse's like Berns, the high quality of the meat at Morton's is consistant, as all the steaks for every restaurant are bought and shipped from the same two meat packers in Chicago.

I am newly returning to the Roadfood sight, and am hoping to post reviews of my favorite steak joints (and other culinary delights) in Los Angeles, a city you could spend monthes eating exciting and new foods.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/21 22:24:07 (permalink)
Alright, I stand here ready to have my head handed to me -- but I just ate one of the best steaks I have had in my life -- top 10 lifetime, call it -- at a chain restaurant and for under 10 bucks incl beverage.

Honest.

6oz thick cut sirloin dinner, MR, with green beans, steak fries, and all I could eat peanuts and warm rolls with cinnamon butter. 7.99, and it was awesome.

The place: The Texas Roadhouse in Cincinnati (Milford, specifically). I never would have thought a relatively inexpensive chain steakhouse could be so good....

take a gander: http://www.texasroadhouse.com/menu02.html

Yeah, yeah...I'm sure all those 30-70 bucks-a-plate places have better steaks. No problem. But this was close and was 8 bucks....got to love the value.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/22 01:10:05 (permalink)
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Alright, I stand here ready to have my head handed to me -- but I just ate one of the best steaks I have had in my life -- top 10 lifetime, call it -- at a chain restaurant and for under 10 bucks incl beverage.

Honest.

6oz thick cut sirloin dinner, MR, with green beans, steak fries, and all I could eat peanuts and warm rolls with cinnamon butter. 7.99, and it was awesome.

The place: The Texas Roadhouse in Cincinnati (Milford, specifically). I never would have thought a relatively inexpensive chain steakhouse could be so good....

take a gander: http://www.texasroadhouse.com/menu02.html

Yeah, yeah...I'm sure all those 30-70 bucks-a-plate places have better steaks. No problem. But this was close and was 8 bucks....got to love the value.


You know, sometimes it's just the location or supplier. When I was recently in Edmonton, my relatives insisted on taking us to places like TGIF's and Chile's the whole time. But even those places had that amazing Alberta grain-fed Angus, so I really couldn't complain. They were all better than the best steaks here in L.A.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/22 01:12:52 (permalink)
One of the best steaks I've ever eaten was a Blue Cheese Filet Mignon at Bistro Gardens in Crescent City, CA. The steak was fork tender and the blue cheese sauce was to die for. Add a ceasar salad, veggie and baked potatoe with a nice glass of Merlot . . . wonderful
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/23 00:10:27 (permalink)
I will agree with hillbilly--Cattlemans, Oklahoma City, is the steak house.
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/23 13:59:29 (permalink)
living in Tampa now and working my entire life in NYC gives me pause as to the thread so far....some folks do indeed know their beef!!
Peter Lugers is simply the best(you can get their steaksauce on the web).....Bern's is a good choice as well,although the atmosphere is akin to a Roman Bordello, but if in Tampa, give 'Charlies' a try(bring money!) or Shulas
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/24 18:36:07 (permalink)
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I'm not much of a steak eater or red meat eater for that matter. Of course when I travel it's "no holds barred". So far the very few steak experiences I've had while traveling have been quite good. My two favorites so far are:
1. The Golden Ox- Kansas City MO
2. The Tea Steak House- Tea SD (near Sioux Falls)

louise is a native of kc
she took me down across the railroad tracks in the bottoms where the old stockyards used to be.......to the golden ox
the ox had fine food, but the atmosphere....
exemplary
the ox is a steakhouse, not a place serving steaks
she tells me when she was a kid they had to dodge the occasional steer on the way to dinner
it is so good the missouri river came up to get a steak
i like places like this[and arthur bryant's as well]
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RE: Great Steakhouses 2003/08/29 02:35:00 (permalink)
Just thought of another great steakhouse, in the most traditional manner. It's the Smokehouse in Toluca Lake, CA across the street from the Burbank Studios. The steaks are thick, juicy and rare. The Garlic Bread is worth a trip by itself and has been praised by both Johnny Carson and Jay Leno. The Sunday brunch a is fantastic spread. If you're ever in this area, treat yourself to dinner or brunch here.
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