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long dog

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RE: Hot Dog Tour Mon, 08/2/04 4:49 PM (permalink)
seafarer -

just remember that in a lot of NJ, there are no left turns.

You have to turn right into what sort of resembles a rotary to make a left !
 
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    John Fox

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    RE: Hot Dog Tour Mon, 08/2/04 8:01 PM (permalink)
    Seafarer,

    You're right about Jersey drivers being scary. I've lived here all my life and it seems like they're getting worse. But in my part of Jersey, there is no problem making left turns. And it is legal to make a right turn if you have a red light, unless there is a sign stating that you can't. What's frustrating is that I come down Salem Rd. every day to make a right onto Galloping Hill Rd. to get to the Parkway on my way to work. I can't tell you how many times I'm at the red light on Salem and Galloping Hill behind someone who refuses to make the right turn. These are lifelong Jerseyans! 6 o'clock in the morning, no one else on the road, and I have to wait behind someone who refuses to turn; sometimes even after I hit the horn. But I digress. Don't want to scare anyone away from coming. As I said, the driving won't be bad at all. Looking forward to meeting everyone and seeing what you think of the hot dogs.
     
    #32
      skuves

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      RE: Hot Dog Tour Tue, 08/3/04 7:11 PM (permalink)
      Zweigle's are available along "The Northway" Rte 87 in NY.
      PJ's BBQ, Saratoga (white-hots Nat.Case only)
      Capital Hill Deli, Behind Pepsi Arena Albany
      Nichol's Market, Voorheesville (retail)
      and more by the time the tour happens, maybe even in CT and NJ.

      To get Zweigle's in your favorite spots have them call 518-248-HOTS
      I'll set them up.
       
      #33
        skuves

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        RE: Hot Dog Tour Tue, 08/3/04 8:53 PM (permalink)
        sorry, I think I was advertising, I'll stop.
         
        #34
          ConeyIslandLou

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          RE: Hot Dog Tour Tue, 08/3/04 9:40 PM (permalink)
          John Fox: How far will we be from the Wegman's that are down in that area?? Since this is a 'hot dog' tour,thought we might make a quickie stop there so some of the out of towners can pick up some Zweigles white hots to take home....
           
          #35
            John Fox

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            RE: Hot Dog Tour Tue, 08/3/04 10:55 PM (permalink)
            Lou,

            Where we will be meeting is about 10 miles north of the Woodbridge Wegmans. Easily accessible by taking the Parkway South. They also carry Hofmann's German Brand Franks as well as their Snappy Grillers. And Thumann's, which is in my opinion the finest beef and pork frank there is. In fact, I was going to suggest to people attending the tour that they might want to stop at one of the A&P's on Galloping Hill Rd. and pick up a package of Thumann's to bring home. There are 2 within a mile of each other on the same street. One literally across the street from the Galloping Hill Inn and the other a block away from Charlies Famous Italian Hot Dogs.

            Skuves,

            Why are Zweigles called White Hots when they are clearly a pre cooked bratwurst? Made primarily of pork and veal, they are shaped like, and taste like a brat. Is it for marketing reasons? I know younger people, especially kids would be more apt to trying something called a White Hot Dog than a bratwurst. Or is it a regional thing? I've e-mailed the company and have yet to receive an answer. Perhaps you can answer. It is a good product, but one I would consider more of a bratwurst or weisswurst than a frankurter or hot dog.
             
            #36
              skuves

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              RE: Hot Dog Tour Wed, 08/4/04 12:35 PM (permalink)
              John Fox: As far as I know "white-hot" seems to be what the people who loved eating them called them when recommending them to others. "You know those 'white-hots', Swiggler's or something like that." they might say.

              I've had my name mangled many times through the years. It is understandable that people came up with a simple name for the product. In western New York its "Pop" and "Hots" for Soda and Hotdogs.
              So "WPOP" is Wegmans soda, and Zweigle's hots are red and white and eaten all over.

              We like Pop-Open Hots served with a cold open pop. (Zweigle's with Natural Casing and a soda)

              And while you may find Zweigle's white-hots similar to some standard bratwurst recipe, Zweigle's white-hots have a wonderful taste and texture which seperates them from the pack.
               
              #37
                lisajocole

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                RE: Hot Dog Tour Wed, 08/4/04 1:49 PM (permalink)
                Did anyone see the Travel Channel show, "Food Crazy" last night? It was an episode about hot dogs, and they traveled the country in search of great and unusual ones. The most interesting to me was in Hawaii, the island of Kauai, where there is a little place called "Puka Dog". Puka, which means hole, is the special bread they use as the bun. They make the dough, then form it around metal cone shapes that heat up, which bakes the bread and makes it toasty on the inside. They then fill it with one of several neat relishes, most of which use local tropical fruits such as mango, banana and pineapple. They grill the dogs, which are spicy/garlicy sausages, then push it down into the puka. Locals and visitors have made this place a must stop on the island, according to the show.

                I went to Kauai on my honeymoon 15 years ago, and would love to go back for a puka dog!

                 
                #38
                  WindMillHotDog

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                  RE: Hot Dog Tour Tue, 08/10/04 6:25 PM (permalink)
                  If anybody wants to make a warm up run down the Jersey Shore Saturday the 14th is the WIndMill 6th Annual Hot Dog Eating contest. a day full of fun and prizes for the entire family. Beer and HotDogs.
                  being held at Bar-A I hope to see some of you there!
                  If you show up ask one of the WindMill staff for Aaron and I will make sure I have some giveaways for you to take home!!

                  if you need Directions its on 16th Ave in belmar. Parkway to exit 98, RT 138 East. take it to end to RT 35North Make first right onto 16th Avenue and follow 1 mile to Bar-A
                   
                  #39
                    long dog

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                    RE: Hot Dog Tour Mon, 08/23/04 6:17 PM (permalink)
                    12 days to the tour!
                     
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                      John Fox

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                      RE: Hot Dog Tour Sat, 08/28/04 8:11 AM (permalink)
                      One week and counting! We are planning to meet at the Galloping Hill Inn at around 11:30 on Saturday. Everyone should be here between 11:30 and 12:00. After sampling the dogs, we'll carpool to Syd's, then Charlies. From Charlies, those who wish to leave can. The rest of us will get on the Parkway and head north to the Hot Grill, then to Rutt's. After that, it will be back to our cars at the GHI. Anyone interested in hitting a few more places can. Elizabeth is a few miles away as is Westfield.

                      What I would suggest is to pace yourself while eating. Like they did with the Cheesesteak Tour, you do not have to have a whole hot dog at each place, although 5 can be finished by many of us with no problem. At the Galloping Hill Inn, I suggest having the dog with just mustard. It is a very good dog that you have to try on it's own. The other condiments there are ordinary. If you must have relish or chili, maybe you want to get it on half of the dog in order to really be able to smple the dog itself. Same for Syd's. I have this dog with just mustard.

                      For Charlies, most people order a double Italian Hot Dog. But for this tour, you are probably better off having a single and maybe sharing it. At the Hot Grill, you must have their chili. In fact, going up to the counter and ordering a "hot dog" will get you one with mustard, onions, and chili or "all the way sauce". Most people just say "one all the way". I get mine without onions, so I say "one, no onions". At Rutt's Hut they serve the dogs plain. They have containers of relish and mustard that you put on yourself. I would suggest taking a bite of the dog plain, and then putting some relish on it. They are famous for their unique relish at Rutt's.

                      Looking forward to meeting you all next week. It'll be a great time.
                       
                      #41
                        alesrus

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                        RE: Hot Dog Tour Thu, 09/2/04 8:43 AM (permalink)
                        quote:
                        Originally posted by John Fox

                        Ok, Let's plan on Saturday 9/4 for the New Jersey leg of the hot dog tour. I propose 5 places which I feel represent the best in Jersey hot dogs. This will be very easy travel wise, as 2 of the places are a mile apart, and a third is 3 or 4 miles away. The other 2 are about 17 miles away, but only a couple of miles from each other. We can all park at the first place, which will be the easiest to get to. Then we can carpool to the other 2. At this point, those that want to leave can because we will be coming back to where our cars will be parked. A short ride to the other 2 (20 minutes maybe) then we will head back to where we are parked. At this point, if anyone wants to continue, there are at least 5 places within 5 miles of where we are parked, including 2 (Tommy's Italian Hot Dogs and Jerry's) that are literally next to each other.

                        What I suggest would be meeting first at the Galloping Hill Inn in Union. They share a parking lot with a banquet hall, so there will be ample parking for all who wish to attend. The Galloping Hill Inn serves a beef and pork dog in the German style. Cooked on a griddle and placed in a unique, harder football shaped bun. The dog is made by Grote & Weigle under a private label arrangement. The Galloping Hill Inn is the only hot dog restaurant that uses this particular dog. It is better, in my opinion, than the other dogs produced by G&W for the variuos Texas Weiner joints in Jersey. Just a great dog, in my top 2 or 3.

                        The easiest way of getting to the Galloping Hill Inn is to take the Garden State Parkway to exit 138. It doesn't matter if you are travelling north or south, get off the exit and bear right. This puts you on Galloping Hill Rd. The Galloping Hill Inn is between 1/4 and 1/2 mile away on the left hand side. Go past the Galloping Hill Inn, and make a left on Salem Rd. then a quick left into the parking lot. This will be the first stop. From here, we can carpool and follow each other. I have a mini van and can take some people. Let's get some feedback as to what time to meet.

                        From here we can either go to Syd's, which is about 4 miles away, or Charlies Famous Italian Hot Dogs which is a mile away off Galloping Hill Rd, going back towards the Parkway. I think we would be better off going to Syd's, then coming back to Charlies, which is about 1/4 mile away from the Parkway, which we will be using to go to the other 2. Charlies is also about a mile or so from our cars, so anyone who wants to leave after the third stop can.

                        So, if we go to Syd's, that would take around 10 minutes. Syd's serves a 5 to a lb natural casing all beef dog from Best's. It is simmerred in water and then charbroiled. This is my favorite all beef dog; better in my opinion than any I've had including Katz's, Papaya King, and Nathan's. Picked as the best hot dog in Jersey by the Munchmobile crew the first year they reviewed hot dogs. Incidentally, the Galloping Hill Inn was picked as the best in the state by New Jersey Monthly. If I was limited to 2 dogs, these are the 2 I would pick. They are the best examples of a great grilled kosher style dog and a great tasting grilled (griddled) German style frank.

                        Charlies Famous Italian Hot Dogs are my pick for best Italian Hot Dog in Jersey. An Italian Hot Dog is a deep fried beef dog (or two for a double) placed in a half moon of pita like Italian 'pizza bread" and topped with deep fried onions, peppers, and potatoes. Charlies gives you a bigger and better sandwich. The peppers are much better than any other place, and only Tommy's in Elizabeth has potatoes that are as good. This sandwich had it's origin in Newark, N.J. in the 1920's and is found only in a few northern Jersey counties. There is one place that moved to Toms River called Jo-Jo's.

                        The next stop would be the Hot Grill in Clifton. Perhaps 20 minutes up the Parkway. The Hot Grill serves the best Texas Weiner in Jersey. Here you might get an argument from people who like Libby's or the Goffle Grill. Or Texas Weiner ll. But I think the Hot Grill's chili sets it apart from the other places. They use a beef and pork dog made by Sabrett and deep fry it in 2 stages. You can also buy their chili to go. The Hot Grill may sell more hot dogs than any other place in Jersey.

                        About 5 minutes away is Rutt's Hutt. This place may just be the most well known hot dog joint in Jersey. And to many the best. They deep fry a Thumann's dog that is made especially for deep frying. It contains semolina and soy protein concentrate which aid in frying and enable the dog to withstand the high temperatures of the cooking oil. Other places use this dog, but Rutt's cooks theirs to different degrees of doneness, and they are already in the oil when you walk in. Service is super fast. These dogs are unique in taste. Just different than any other hot dog. Their relish is legendary and shipped all over the country.

                        Fortunately, these hot dog restaurants are fairly close to each other. They are my top 5 hot dog restaurants, and each represents a different style.

                        At this point we will return to the Galloping Hill Inn. For those who want to continue, we could drive 3 miles into Elizabeth and sample the dogs from Tommy's Italian Hot Dogs and Jerry's Famous Frankfurters. Tommy's is in the same league as Charlies when it comes to Italian Hot Dogs. A lot of people prefer Tommy's. They have great potatoes which they also sell in cups. There is Charlies and Tommy's, then everyone else when it comes to Italian Hot Dogs. Next to Tommy's (actually separated by one store) is Jerry's. Both of these places are walk up hot dog stands with no seating. Jerry's is a quality beef dog cooked a unique way. Boiled, then thrown on a griddle for a minute or two to add crunchiness and flavor. The dogs are hot and tasty. Best brand like Syd's (and Charlies) but smaller than Syd's. My wife's favorite hot dog.

                        Also nearby are Father and Son which serves the same dog as Jerry's, but they cook it slowly on a griddle over low heat. They have a very spicy chili also. The Windmill has a location in Westfield, which is close to Union. They serve a quarter pound beef and pork dog (Sabrett) that is very good. Same style as the Galloping Hill Inn.

                        I think the top five dogs are must hit places. I will be up for taking anyone to the others mentioned. What do you all think would be a good time to meet? The Galloping Hill Inn opens at 11:00, but that might be too early. Let's get some feedback on the time. I think we could do the top 5 fairly quickly. Rutt's, Hot Grill, and Galloping Hill Inn serve dogs as soon as you order them. Charlies can have them ready if we call and order ahead if anyone wants to do that. Same for Syd's. Syd's is a smaller luncheonette. We may have to eat outside. Looking forward to eating some dogs and getting opinions from those of you who have never been to these places.
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                          ConeyIslandLou

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                          RE: Hot Dog Tour Thu, 09/2/04 9:49 AM (permalink)
                          quote:
                          Originally posted by John Fox

                          One week and counting! We are planning to meet at the Galloping Hill Inn at around 11:30 on Saturday. Everyone should be here between 11:30 and 12:00. After sampling the dogs, we'll carpool to Syd's, then Charlies. From Charlies, those who wish to leave can. The rest of us will get on the Parkway and head north to the Hot Grill, then to Rutt's. After that, it will be back to our cars at the GHI. Anyone interested in hitting a few more places can. Elizabeth is a few miles away as is Westfield.

                          What I would suggest is to pace yourself while eating. Like they did with the Cheesesteak Tour, you do not have to have a whole hot dog at each place, although 5 can be finished by many of us with no problem. At the Galloping Hill Inn, I suggest having the dog with just mustard. It is a very good dog that you have to try on it's own. The other condiments there are ordinary. If you must have relish or chili, maybe you want to get it on half of the dog in order to really be able to smple the dog itself. Same for Syd's. I have this dog with just mustard.

                          For Charlies, most people order a double Italian Hot Dog. But for this tour, you are probably better off having a single and maybe sharing it. At the Hot Grill, you must have their chili. In fact, going up to the counter and ordering a "hot dog" will get you one with mustard, onions, and chili or "all the way sauce". Most people just say "one all the way". I get mine without onions, so I say "one, no onions". At Rutt's Hut they serve the dogs plain. They have containers of relish and mustard that you put on yourself. I would suggest taking a bite of the dog plain, and then putting some relish on it. They are famous for their unique relish at Rutt's.

                          Looking forward to meeting you all next week. It'll be a great time.



                          Other suggestions for all those coming:

                          DO eat something for breakfast-to expand the stomach a bit,and so you do not wolf those first couple of dogs down......a small bowl of cereal,for example,would be good

                          DO bring water! This way you dont find yourself quaffing too much soda and gassing yourself up too much! Cleans the palate also!

                          Can anyone do name tags??? I can print out stickers if someone can send me a semi-complete guest list (with both RF handles and real 1st names if needed) the night before-can someone bring the tags?

                          And is someone going to do a rating card like the Philly Cheesesteak Tour? Or is this getting too organized??

                          and remember it IS cheating using artificial OR natural appetite stimulates....
                           
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                            alesrus

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                            RE: Hot Dog Tour Thu, 09/2/04 11:35 AM (permalink)
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by ConeyIslandLou





                            Other suggestions for all those coming:



                            Can anyone do name tags??? I can print out stickers if someone can send me a semi-complete guest list (with both RF handles and real 1st names if needed) the night before-can someone bring the tags?

                            And is someone going to do a rating card like the Philly Cheesesteak Tour? Or is this getting too organized??

                            and remember it IS cheating using artificial OR natural appetite stimulates....


                            So far my count is 20 definite and 10 possible. I do not know all the names. Maybe we should just bring a magic marker and some lables and write them as people arrive?

                            As far as the rating card I can print them if you or Mr Fox give me an idea as to what shoud go on them.

                             
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                              ConeyIslandLou

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                              RE: Hot Dog Tour Thu, 09/2/04 11:03 PM (permalink)
                              I have printed up special blank labels....two..ahem THREE sheets worth!!! I will also be bringing a Sharpie...water and mustard proof!
                               
                              #45
                                seafarer john

                                RE: Hot Dog Tour Fri, 09/3/04 9:14 AM (permalink)
                                Lou: What's a Sharpie? I don't want any dogs in my car! Or is it a kind of sniper's rifle ? Don't want that either! Does it emit gamma rays? Don't want that!

                                Cheers, John
                                 
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                                  aleswench

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                                  RE: Hot Dog Tour Fri, 09/3/04 10:10 AM (permalink)
                                  quote:
                                  Originally posted by seafarer john

                                  Lou: What's a Sharpie? I don't want any dogs in my car! Or is it a kind of sniper's rifle ? Don't want that either! Does it emit gamma rays? Don't want that!

                                  Cheers, John


                                  LOL - took me a minute for the "dog's"
                                   
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                                    ConeyIslandLou

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                                    RE: Hot Dog Tour Fri, 09/3/04 12:41 PM (permalink)
                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by seafarer john

                                    Lou: What's a Sharpie? I don't want any dogs in my car! Or is it a kind of sniper's rifle ? Don't want that either! Does it emit gamma rays? Don't want that!

                                    Cheers, John


                                    Its non-lethal...unless ya eat it or somethin'!
                                     
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                                      Scarlett

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                                      RE: Hot Dog Tour Fri, 09/3/04 1:23 PM (permalink)
                                      Make some pictures so we, who will not be joining you, can enjoy the trip in absentia.

                                      Enjoy!



                                       
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