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ces1948

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How to not stay in business Sat, 07/2/11 3:37 PM (permalink)
We have a locally owned pizza, Italian restaurant in a strip center nearby. I went by a couple of days ago and saw a sign on the door. "Summer hours 11am to 5pm. This place is located in a shopping center with a Publix, Chinese take out, Subway and a Mcdonalds all open until 10 PM or later. I don't think it's a great business decision for a pizza place to close at 5 PM. BTW this is in Florida in a fairly busy area. Not an industrial park or something.
 
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    felix4067

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    Re:How to not stay in business Sat, 07/2/11 3:59 PM (permalink)
    They probably weren't getting enough business to bother paying what it costs to stay open. Quite some number of places around here cut their hours way back in the summer, and none of them seem to suffer from it.
     
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      ces1948

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      Re:How to not stay in business Sat, 07/2/11 4:14 PM (permalink)
      Since this is the "off" season here in Florida we don't have the tourists here but we still are a town of 100k. The shopping center they're in is quite busy so who knows. I could understand maybe 11am-2pm and 5-8pm for a pizza place.
       
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        6star

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        Re:How to not stay in business Sat, 07/2/11 5:33 PM (permalink)
        Probably the management or the workers (or both) just don't want to work split shifts.

         
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          jman

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          Re:How to not stay in business Sat, 07/2/11 6:42 PM (permalink)
          It could be that the owners know what works best for them and their employees.  It could be that the owners feel that their summer hours best fit their customers' eating habits.  It could be that the owners know that the loss of any night time business isn't going to affect the viability of their business.  It could be that the owners made their decision to shorten their hours based on factors that only they know.
           
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            ces1948

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            Re:How to not stay in business Sat, 07/2/11 6:52 PM (permalink)
            Of course I have no insight as to the situation at this particular restaurant. All I do know is that is a very popular shopping plaza with a big supermarket along with several other eating choices that are open until 10pm or later. I think I can also surmise that the rent isn't any cheaper by closing at 5pm. I also know that if I decide to pickup a pizza for dinner I'm going to have to choose another place. Just don't see any positives. Usually around here this type of thing is a prelude before going out of business.
             
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              Foodbme

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              Re:How to not stay in business Sat, 07/2/11 9:09 PM (permalink)
              DUH! - Why don't you stop in when they're open, buy a pizza and ask the owners what's behind their store hours decision and report back.
              THEN we can offer opinions on their survival odds!
               
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                ces1948

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                Re:How to not stay in business Sun, 07/3/11 1:01 PM (permalink)
                Well it looks like he had a change of heart on his summer hours. I went by earlier as someone suggested but he was closed. He had a new sign on the door that the hours would be 3-9pm instead of 11am-5pm.  I think he'll fare much butter being open in the evenings.
                 
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                  Foodbme

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                  Re:How to not stay in business Sun, 07/3/11 2:51 PM (permalink)
                  ces1948

                  Well it looks like he had a change of heart on his summer hours. I went by earlier as someone suggested but he was closed. He had a new sign on the door that the hours would be 3-9pm instead of 11am-5pm.  I think he'll fare much butter being open in the evenings.

                  Pizza places always do better in the evening except their biggest day of the year---Super Bowl Sunday! (And that's primarily evening sales.) Other top days - Halloween, the day before Thanksgiving, New Year's Eve and New Year's Day!
                  Pizza Huts out here have a lunch buffet they're pushing trying to get more lunch business
                  <message edited by Foodbme on Sun, 07/3/11 2:53 PM>
                   
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                    SeamusD

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                    Re:How to not stay in business Sun, 07/3/11 3:58 PM (permalink)
                    One thing I never understood from a business perspective is pizza/Italian places closed on Sundays. A bunch of places around here do it, which is the day I'm most apt to order out instead of cook.
                     
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                      felix4067

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                      Re:How to not stay in business Sun, 07/3/11 5:02 PM (permalink)
                      SeamusD


                      One thing I never understood from a business perspective is pizza/Italian places closed on Sundays. A bunch of places around here do it, which is the day I'm most apt to order out instead of cook.

                      At risk of being stereotypical, many Italians are of a religion that says Sunday is a day of rest, to be spent at church and with family.
                       
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                        Foodbme

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                        Re:How to not stay in business Sun, 07/3/11 5:09 PM (permalink)
                        felix4067

                        SeamusD

                        One thing I never understood from a business perspective is pizza/Italian places closed on Sundays. A bunch of places around here do it, which is the day I'm most apt to order out instead of cook.

                        At risk of being stereotypical, many Italians are of a religion that says Sunday is a day of rest, to be spent at church and with family.

                        That's not Stereotypical, many Nationalities feel the same way.
                         
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                          ces1948

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                          Re:How to not stay in business Sun, 07/3/11 5:36 PM (permalink)
                          Chick-fil-a anyone?
                           
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                            Foodbme

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                            Re:How to not stay in business Sun, 07/3/11 5:51 PM (permalink)
                            ces1948

                            Chick-fil-a anyone?

                            They named a movie after them----"Never on Sunday". (1960) Nominated for 5 Academy Awards. Won an Oscar for its musical score title song. The bouzouki music is infectious.
                            "A nerdy American Greco-phile meets a headstrong, live-loving prostitute in the Athens port city of Piraeus and tries to get her to change her ways, but to no avail."
                            Kinda like trying to get Italian food on Sunday!
                             
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                              SeamusD

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                              Re:How to not stay in business Tue, 07/5/11 11:30 AM (permalink)
                              felix4067


                              SeamusD


                              One thing I never understood from a business perspective is pizza/Italian places closed on Sundays. A bunch of places around here do it, which is the day I'm most apt to order out instead of cook.

                              At risk of being stereotypical, many Italians are of a religion that says Sunday is a day of rest, to be spent at church and with family.

                              That's why I used "from a business perspective"... I know that the reason you gave does apply in some cases, but I know of at least two in which that isn't the case, they're just not open on Sundays.
                               
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                                deepfryerdan

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                                Re:How to not stay in business Tue, 07/5/11 11:46 AM (permalink)
                                felix4067

                                At risk of being stereotypical, many Italians are of a religion that says Sunday is a day of rest, to be spent at church and with family.

                                 
                                That's always  interesting to me because the "day of rest" is supposed to be the "sabbath" which is Saturday. Not Sunday.
                                 
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                                  Foodbme

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                                  Re:How to not stay in business Tue, 07/5/11 2:13 PM (permalink)
                                  The word Sabbath simply means "to rest". Different groups rest on different days. For example, Islamists rest on Friday, Jews on Saturday & Christians on Sunday. No one group has an exclusive on the day of the week "To Rest". The universal note here is that we all need a day of rest. I'm all for an 8 day week so we can rest 2 days!
                                   
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