The most memorable local eateries along the highways and back roads of America
Sign In | Register for Free!
Restaurants Recipes Forums EatingTours Merchandise FAQ Maps Insider

 I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper.

Author Message
OzDogs

  • Total Posts: 174
  • Joined: 10/5/2006
  • Location: phoenix, AZ
I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Sun, 06/14/09 7:40 PM (permalink)
Wells, whatever aspirations I had, they got blown out of the water. All this "new generation" stuff, all the Twitter, Facebook, magazines, buzz, buzz, buzz, look at this:

http://fresherthanfreshsnowcones.blogspot.com/

She is/was a graphic artist. She came up with a unique line, a brand, the whole marketing concept and dang. We should invent some kind of award and give it to her. Look how she takes the whole package and markets it online.

We're at one of those moments. The game has changed. The whole industry is changing right under our feet. A brand, like a name brand used to be something you developed in people's minds over a long period of time and using a freaking huge ass pile of money. Now a brand is something you invent on your computer with a 12 pack and a couple of friends for inspiration.

Funny thing is nobody is gonna believe I'm not about to rip her off. The only documentary proof is right here on these boards because I promised whats-her-name I'd find a really cheap way to get into the flavored ice business. And when I found it. I decided heck, this could be fun. And all the sudden I started thinking and literally dreaming of shaved ice. The first flavor I thought of was coffee with this washed raw sugar I use at home.

And then I thought of a shaved ice Earl Grey tea with honey. Oh Gods, I can't wait for my shaver and flavors to get here. I'm starting with a hand shave, a classic block shave of 1800s design. I ordered from Ebay. Once you know what to look for, there's lots of this technology still out there. Have a look at this:

http://icetoolcollections.com/

And go shopping on Ebay.

So this is where the wife starts yelling STOP GIVING AWAY ALL OUR IDEAS and throwing shoes at me and stuff. I'm just lucky she don't like boots. But sometimes I have to remind her, honey, everything we know we got taught by guys like Old Pete. And as she takes aim at my head with one of them spike-heeled contraptions I gotta try and calm her down and say sit down honey, get ready for a shock. I been researching ice desserts for days now and they got 'em all over the world, they have for like a gazillion years. The cat is out of the bag on that one.

Yeah, I'll have to find a gentle way to tell her that we didn't invent ice. We live in Arizona. We can grow about anything but the ice growing season is remarkably short here. And there's something about the raw materials required to grow ice that's tough in a desert but I can't think of it's name right now. I recall it being a liquid but it's not beer or tequila. It's something different. I'm pretty sure it's imported.

So of course, now it's my fault that people all over the world have been eating flavored ice for gazillions of years. Whatever. It's a good thing she don't understand strength in numbers or she'd get her sister in law and her kin and they'd really womp the crap out of me. But this ice thing, if we start a trend in gourmet street ice, people will eat it, the buzz will get louder, we'll claim more market share. Just in time for a mega depression.

Hey, for once I'm being serious. We should all get into it. Your basic Victor cart will serve handily as a shaved ice cart. Come on, everyplace that is forbidden to us as doggers is open to us with ice. They want low-cal, fat-free, vegan, whatever? We got it now. But what am I doing trying to convince you people when I really should just be giving order and expect you to follow them.

So what are you waiting for? Invent a whole new re-invented industry and put more money in your pockets now. I SAID NOW! What are you looking in my face like I'm your momma and I got some sugar for you? I ain't got no sugar for you boy you best get out of my face.
 
#1
    David_NYC

    • Total Posts: 2117
    • Joined: 8/1/2004
    • Location: New York, NY
    Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Sun, 06/14/09 8:32 PM (permalink)
    Snowballs (AKA Snow Cones) have been popular in Baltimore and New Orleans for ages.
     
    #2
      brittneal

      • Total Posts: 1265
      • Joined: 9/17/2006
      • Location: fairborn, OH
      Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Sun, 06/14/09 8:53 PM (permalink)
      During my chef carreer I accumulated a nice set of ice tools.  I had a Japanese set that I had bought nearly new as well as about a dozen of antique peices I had gotten.  A few came from my grandmother from the 1800's.  She had a catereing business and did some simple ice work.  I also had the ice chippers they used back when houses used iceboxes.
      It broke my heart when it all got stolen.  I dread to think of what they were worth even at 80's prices.
       
      #3
        zataar

        • Total Posts: 1439
        • Joined: 4/5/2004
        • Location: kansas city, MO
        Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Sun, 06/14/09 9:03 PM (permalink)
        I live where Fresherthanfreshsnowcones does their incredible business. 
        You haven't had shaved ice, snowcones or granita, etc until you have a fresherthanfreshsnowcones. Fabulous. 

        <message edited by zataar on Sun, 06/14/09 9:17 PM>
         
        #4
          sk bob

          • Total Posts: 1763
          • Joined: 12/29/2005
          • Location: South Daytona, FL
          Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Sun, 06/14/09 9:04 PM (permalink)
          Oz dogs, you've been eating too many tainted snowcones.
           
          #5
            zataar

            • Total Posts: 1439
            • Joined: 4/5/2004
            • Location: kansas city, MO
            Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Sun, 06/14/09 9:05 PM (permalink)
            David_NYC


            Snowballs (AKA Snow Cones) have been popular in Baltimore and New Orleans for ages.


            These aren't the same, I can attest to that..
             
            #6
              RodBangkok

              • Total Posts: 202
              • Joined: 10/12/2008
              • Location: Bangkok Thailand, XX
              Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Sun, 06/14/09 9:35 PM (permalink)
              Take a bit of a different turn to this, google nam kang sai, this is the traditional street version here, it has fruit on the bottom, then ice on top, sometimes with a syrup on it.  Ice is usually shaved on one of these:

              http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/220587441/ice_shaving_machine.html


              Great show to watch the fresh ice hand shaved.

              Found all over and popular.
               
              #7
                RoyalDogs

                • Total Posts: 95
                • Joined: 1/13/2009
                • Location: Sedona, AZ
                Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Mon, 06/15/09 12:43 AM (permalink)
                Good luck with that 18th century ice shaver. Let’s think realistically, in a high traffic areas you will not be able to compete against a commercial shaver..with block ice. Have you done research on your competition? Or your decisions are based off of some dreams of secret flavors.. The time it takes to crank out two or three snow cones in 5-10 mins a commercial grade machine can pump out 12 servings per minute. I can understand why the wife would throw some shoes. You will work harder not smarter, think I am wrong? In a month you will have reconsidered, and on top of that you will take a lost financially. I do like your idea about converting a Victors cart into an ice cart. I am planning to do the same as I just purchased my 5th cart and that one will be converted to an ice cart. I don't mean to sound negative but from your other post you seem so knowledgeable, but speaking more of dreams and hopes of than factuals. Example trying to give advice on things you haven't experienced yourself. Good
                luck

                RD
                 
                Edit: I found a video for you since you have chosen block ice. This is a commercial grade machine. My choice was Ice cubes to each their own. 
                 
                http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Shaved+Ice+&docid=964344480183&mid=BA82CFACAB71A6BCBC0EBA82CFACAB71A6BCBC0E&FORM=VIVR35
                <message edited by RoyalDogs on Mon, 06/15/09 1:21 AM>
                 
                #8
                  Baah Ben

                  • Total Posts: 3026
                  • Joined: 11/30/2001
                  • Location: Ormond Beach, FL
                  Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Mon, 06/15/09 8:00 AM (permalink)
                  Very interesting debate going on here.  Royal Dogs makes some good points.  You'll do what you feel is best for you.  Good luck.  Might want to consider a compromise.  Easy of shaving with unique toppings.  Hey, ever been to Ohau?  They got that famous shaved ice place we went to (it was like a little grocery store) and they put this sweet bean surprise at the bottom of each cup of shaved ice.  Not bad.  Boy, they had some business going there!
                  Well at least you don't have a seasonal location for shaved ice!  Scottsdale and Phoenix have the weather..Especially in late May and through the summer when the temperature turns to 113-115  Yeah, I know it's dry heat.  Folks..Don't believe the Scottsdale Chamber of Commerce.  It is hot as hell there! 
                   
                  Hey, at least you don't have skeeters!  We've got 90 plus every day and we can't go out of the house for different reasons..Skeeters!  Dawn...Dusk forget it!! 

                  Great looking trailer!  So, do you install a wall or window type a/c unit and run it off a gas generator?  I love to hear how you get that trailer ready for a shaved ice business.  Maybe tell us the type of equipment you are installing.
                   
                  Please tell you wife, nobody is going to steal your ideas.  Wishing you lots and lots of luck.
                   
                  Do you paint the roof top with cool clad white paint like they do here in Florida for the school buses?  Supposedly a big help. 

                  <message edited by Baah Ben on Mon, 06/15/09 8:09 AM>
                   
                  #9
                    Curbside Grill

                    • Total Posts: 3916
                    • Joined: 10/11/2007
                    • Location: Lawrenceburg, TN
                    Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Mon, 06/15/09 8:13 AM (permalink)
                    God is not Female or male, but both.
                    Your thoughts are elsewhere.
                     
                    #10
                      BillyB

                      • Total Posts: 2851
                      • Joined: 2/4/2009
                      Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Mon, 06/15/09 9:24 AM (permalink)
                      WOW, God is a "Chic in a in a vintage trailer"...This is something I could see, and believe, and get a snow cone....now this is making religion easy to understand........................If God was both male and female he would be arguing with hiself all day and nothing would get accomplished. So I'm not buying that one....................
                       
                      #11
                        OzDogs

                        • Total Posts: 174
                        • Joined: 10/5/2006
                        • Location: phoenix, AZ
                        Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Mon, 06/15/09 2:05 PM (permalink)
                        RoyalDogs,

                        As to me sounding knowledgeable, I doubt it. Everything I know got taught by Old Pete and Chicago Mark. What I am is confident.

                        Your criticisms are well-made but don't imagine I'm going to be hitting a festival or something with a hand shave. I'm not glutton for pain. The first thing I want to do is just experiment at home. I want to see how fast the ice melts and work with some flavors. I will be creating some flavors but I'm not sure yet how to commercialize them. My commissary is a bit too much of a mad house to do development in. And I want to see how many cones I can make in 15 minutes with a hand shave. Plus, I can use Twitter to gather a little crowd for taste testing when I'm ready.

                        So with this $20 hand shave and a few flavors I can bring a whole new product line right to the point of market. I know the $350 to buy a decent commercial shaver isn't much but I'm getting another cart and going through the hassles of getting set up in Yavapai County which is something of a nightmare. Maricopa County is pretty easy  by comparison. The expenses are just piling up.

                        Plus I'm kind of hoping somebody "out there" who needs cash fast to save the house or maintain income will see this and say "gee, I an do that with the little money I have now".
                         
                        #12
                          RoyalDogs

                          • Total Posts: 95
                          • Joined: 1/13/2009
                          • Location: Sedona, AZ
                          Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Mon, 06/15/09 2:28 PM (permalink)
                          I understand Oz  nothing wrong with testing the waters in plans of expansion. I wish I did the same with my vending machine business. Man I wish the commercial shavers where that cheap. $350  I am sure once you create those flavors that will open up new doors for you. I plan on using premium flavors… I met an older gentlemen named Don Graff he spoke just like you, very smart man but told stories and was intimidated by newer ways of doing business. I still remember some of his terminologies. Pickemup Truck and brand spanky lol. Good times… So many rules for your county, can you get a Maricopa county permit and operate here? I have never been to your area.
                           
                          Edit: (hand shaver)
                           
                          http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=shaved+ice&first=21&docid=951657234677&mid=4E07BB2010B1C06E7D794E07BB2010B1C06E7D79&FORM=VIVR29
                          <message edited by RoyalDogs on Mon, 06/15/09 2:34 PM>
                           
                          #13
                            quickdog

                            • Total Posts: 500
                            • Joined: 6/21/2007
                            • Location: campbell, CA
                            Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Mon, 06/15/09 5:31 PM (permalink)
                            RoyalDogs


                            I understand Oz  nothing wrong with testing the waters in plans of expansion. I wish I did the same with my vending machine business. Man I wish the commercial shavers where that cheap. $350  I am sure once you create those flavors that will open up new doors for you. I plan on using premium flavors… I met an older gentlemen named Don Graff he spoke just like you, very smart man but told stories and was intimidated by newer ways of doing business. I still remember some of his terminologies. Pickemup Truck and brand spanky lol. Good times… So many rules for your county, can you get a Maricopa county permit and operate here? I have never been to your area.
                             
                            Edit: (hand shaver)
                             
                            http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=shaved+ice&first=21&docid=951657234677&mid=4E07BB2010B1C06E7D794E07BB2010B1C06E7D79&FORM=VIVR29


                            Could you imagine doing that for every order? wow. That guy puts in work for sure. Not to mention the ice would probably taste like arm sweat after half the day  lol. I like the foot operated machine clip. You guys are putting more ideas in my head! stop  lol. I am still busy with the hot dog cart but now I want an ice shaver. 
                             
                            #14
                              surrycounty

                              • Total Posts: 3208
                              • Joined: 1/1/2005
                              Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Mon, 06/15/09 8:26 PM (permalink)
                              God is our Father in Heaven, not our mother or a gender-hybrid.
                               
                              #15
                                ann peeples

                                • Total Posts: 6558
                                • Joined: 5/21/2006
                                • Location: Menomonee Falls, WI
                                Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Tue, 06/16/09 11:23 AM (permalink)
                                ...and hallowed be thy name.
                                 
                                #16
                                  surrycounty

                                  • Total Posts: 3208
                                  • Joined: 1/1/2005
                                  Re:I have seen the face of God. She's a blonde chick in a vintage camper. Tue, 06/16/09 12:09 PM (permalink)
                                  Thank you, Ann. My feelings exactly.
                                   
                                  #17
                                    Online Bookmarks Sharing: Share/Bookmark

                                    Jump to:

                                    Current active users

                                    There are 0 members and 1 guests.

                                    Icon Legend and Permission

                                    • New Messages
                                    • No New Messages
                                    • Hot Topic w/ New Messages
                                    • Hot Topic w/o New Messages
                                    • Locked w/ New Messages
                                    • Locked w/o New Messages
                                    • Read Message
                                    • Post New Thread
                                    • Reply to message
                                    • Post New Poll
                                    • Submit Vote
                                    • Post reward post
                                    • Delete my own posts
                                    • Delete my own threads
                                    • Rate post

                                    2000-2012 ASPPlayground.NET Forum Version 3.9
                                    What is Roadfood?  |   Privacy Policy  |   Contact Roadfood.com   Copyright 2011 - Roadfood.com