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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/27 04:46:43 (permalink)
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Originally posted by MikeS.

for years I've made my chili beans with Texas Ranch Style beans. About a year ago I'd bought a case, 24 cans, at WM. I went in about 3 weeks ago to buy another. They didn't have any, no longer carry it.

So I checked 2 other grocery stores, no luck. Then another WM, zip. I went online and found it is a Con-Agra product. Their website sid that Target had them. So I made a special trip to Target. Nada.

So I broke down and used canned pintos, just wasn't the same. Last night I made a batch using Hanover brand Chili Beans. Better then plain pintos but still not the same.

I guess I'm gonna have to break down and pay a ridiculous price to have a case shipped to me.

These beans really made the taste I liked.

I've got a big pot-luck dinner on 3/15 that I want to make chili beans and cornbread for. Guess I better get shopping.



That's a problem I encounter constantly at Wal-Mart, Mike. Interestingly, I saw Ranch Style Beans at WM here just two days ago.

Wal-Mart's marketing is very strange.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/27 07:19:30 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Rusty246

quote:
Originally posted by MikeS.

What throws me is Kidney beans in chili, I just hate that.

David NYC, I thought I checked FoodLion but I will again for sure. Thanks for the recipe.

Wow, I'm glad I read all the way through this thread. I use both dark and light kidney beans, always have always will.Guess I won't make that suggestion now!


I always use dark red kidney beans.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/27 07:24:07 (permalink)
Is this the stuff you are looking for?

http://store.asianfoodcompany.com/rastbe.html?gclid=CJjCnLCt5JECFQPGsgod-zVhfA
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/27 07:53:52 (permalink)
Mike, damned if the Texas Beans aren't off the shelf at my local supermarket. I went to grab for them today and nuttin. Gone.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/27 11:36:40 (permalink)
Yall tell those stores they need to carry Ranch Style Beans! Can any of you get the Jalapeno and Sweet Onion flavors? Almost every store in north Texas has all 3 kinds. I like to mix one can of each just for eating by themselves. They are good w/ BBQ also!
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/27 12:00:35 (permalink)
I've never considered myself an idiot when it comes to types of beans but what KIND of bean is a Ranch Style Bean and what makes it "Ranch" style, "Texas" style?
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/27 12:12:05 (permalink)
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Originally posted by PapaJoe8

Yall tell those stores they need to carry Ranch Style Beans! Can any of you get the Jalapeno and Sweet Onion flavors? Almost every store in north Texas has all 3 kinds. I like to mix one can of each just for eating by themselves. They are good w/ BBQ also!
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Joe, they do carry Ranch Style. That's what I had to settle for now that the Texas beans have disappeared.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/27 13:25:54 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Russ Jackson

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Originally posted by MikeS.

Davydd, please notice that in the very 1st sentence I specify chili beans. They are a totally seperate item from chili. My parents both came from Texas to Calif where I was born and raised. I know how to make a decent "bowl of red" when I want to. I prefer chili beans and make that more often.

MikeS.


MikeS could you share the recipe?...Thanks Russ


Russ, it is here in this forum from a year or 2 ago. Give me a day or so to find it on my other 'puter and I'll send it to you.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/27 13:36:18 (permalink)
MiamiDon, close but no cigar. None of those say Texas Ranch Style.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/27 13:37:19 (permalink)
Rusty, I have no idea what species of bean they are. Tasty though.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/27 13:50:43 (permalink)
Try this link,
http://www.conagrafoods.com/consumer/brands/getBrand.do?page=ranch_style
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/27 15:04:22 (permalink)
PapaJoe suggested that ConAgra was using two different labels for the same product.

To enginecapt and others with Ranch Style brand beans in their cupboard:

I found a website with the ingredients (as of Jan 07) of the Texas Ranch Style beans:
INGREDIENTS:
Pinto beans, water, tomato puree, less than 2% of: blend of vegetable oils and animal fat (partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated cottonseed oil and rendered beef fat), salt, chili peppers, sugar, paprika, vinegar, spices, onion powder, garlic powder, natural flavors, soy lecithin.
Contains: Soy.

Nutrition Data for 1/2 cup, 131 gram serving:
Calores: 130
Calories from fat: 25
Total Fat: 2.5 gram
Saturated Fat: 1 gram
Trans Fat: 0 gram
Cholesterol: 0 gram
Sodium: 590 mg
Total Carbohydrate 20 gram
Dietary Fiber 6 gram
Sugars 2 gram
Protein 6 gram
Vitamin A 8%
Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 4%
Iron 10%

I also found a list of UPC numbers for 15 ounce cans beans:
46900-00106 "Original" Beans
46900-00122 Pinto
46900-00123 Pinto w/ Jalapenos
46900-00158 Black Beans
46900-00171 Beans w/ Sweet Onions

Also a number for a 96 ounce #10 foodservice can of "Original" Beans:
46900-00116

Also a number for Ranch Style Brand Beans Texas Original, weight unknown:
46900-00112

Another site has another description for UPC 46900-00106: Ranch Style Brand Texas Beans Original

So, do any beans you have at home line up with the ingredient and nutrition list of the "Original Texas Beans, Authentic Western Flavor" listed above?
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/02/28 08:34:39 (permalink)
All looks the same on my can except "soy lecithin. Contains: soy". Does anyone have a can that has the soy? Maybe they took the soy out some time back?

And my can says "appetite pleasin" and "real western flavor" on the front of the label.

I still think Ranch and Texas Ranch is the same stuff. Just a different label.

My jalapeno beans are the origional, not pinto. I have had the pinto though.
Joe

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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/05/26 21:09:23 (permalink)
I bought some today, Ranch Style(R) Brand Original Texas Beans, Authentic Western Flavor. Just like Mike described them. At 1998 Bruckner Blvd in the South Bronx! A Super K-Mart. On sale. 70 cents a can, down from 90 cents a can. The label is as here:
http://www.amazon.com/Ranch-Style-Original-Texas-Beans/dp/B000K2CSS0

The ingredient list and nuitrition data is as in my post here on February 27th. The UPC is 46900-00106, one of the numbers I listed in that post. The only thing I did not previously post is contact info: 1-800-799-7300, ConAgra Foods, Inc. P.O. Box 802521, Dallas, Texas 75380-2521
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/05/31 23:01:42 (permalink)
Thanks David, I'm going to try my local K-marts and if that doesn't work I'm going to call them.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/06/19 02:29:49 (permalink)
Not sure if anyone has suggested this yet, but a website called www.hometownfavorites.com has a LOT of hard to find ingredients. You have to order $20 worth to get it, but I just ordered $15 of my favorite pizza sauce and $5 of my dad's favorite hard to find candy, it was $11 shipping, but arrived in less than 2 days. It's kind of a last resort, obviously because of the cost of shipping, but they might have it.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/06/19 10:33:15 (permalink)
I wonder why Con agra thinks it is smart to put "Texas" on the label, but not in Texas???

There are three flavors of these beans;
Origional
Jalapeno
Sweet Onion

I like to mix a can of each... makes a good pot of easy beans thats good w/ Q.

That hometownfavorites is a neat site. Lots of hard to find stuff. They also have a list of things that are no longer made. That is a good thing for folks looking for things that no longer exist. I found Ireland's canned BBQ on that list. Hmmm, I might have mentioned the site on my "canned BBQ" thread?
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/06/19 11:22:16 (permalink)
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Originally posted by PapaJoe8

I wonder why Con agra thinks it is smart to put "Texas" on the label, but not in Texas???

Joe


the same reason they simply call them "wings" in Buffalo. No sense in redundancy, that is to say, there's so sense in repeating oneself, again.

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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/06/19 11:34:13 (permalink)
Good point Score. I still find it strange that they make two labels. But hey, I don't know beans about marketing beans.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/06/19 18:49:22 (permalink)
PapaJoe,

I don't think we ever resolved the discrepancy between the soy in the beans I bought on May 26th, and the lack of soy in the beans in your pantry.

As for the different labels, the pictures I have seen of the vintage labels on cans sold in Texas and nearby states may fail to attract new customers up here who see them for the first time on a grocer's shelf. The label up here seems to have cribbed the design from an amalagam of the labels of Bush's, Hanover, Progresso, and other beans brands sold up here.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/06/20 02:10:38 (permalink)
I did a little research on this and even emailed Con Agra.
Ranch Style beans are just plain ol' beans like Campbells.
 
The Texas Style Beans had chili-like seasonings in them like cumin, onion, etc. The Corporate "SUITS" in all their wisdom, have apparently discontinued Texas Style Beans. They've decided to introduce a new line of beans.
post edited by Foodbme - 2010/02/20 03:26:05
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/06/20 05:37:14 (permalink)
Well, that explains it. HometownFavorites shows the Texas Ranch Style on back order with an expected date of June 25th, but that may be a computer-generated bogus date. The bottom line is that HometownFavorites doesn't have any to sell to you right now. The Amazon site shows them as unavailable. Two food products with the same list of ingredients on the label which including the word 'spices' can taste completely different because they don't tell you the spice mixture. But ConAgra's web site says "Ranch Style Beans are made with a delicious blend of spices that creates a unique, bold flavor synonymous with authentic Southwestern cookin'." So, I don't think Ranch Style were completely plain ol' beans.

So maybe the thing to do now is find a similar product to the Texas Ranch Style beans that is sold at retail in areas that formerly carried the Texas Ranch Style beans. Like something from Joan of Arc, Brooks Chili Beans, Target's Pantry brand, etc.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/06/20 09:59:01 (permalink)
Davy, good point about shelf marketing to folks not familliar with this kind of bean. The word Texas would let folks know there is something dufferent, and maybe worth a try, in this can of beans. I am still not sure about the "soy" deal. My bet though is Con Agra never made two kinds of "Ranch" beans at the same time. Different states may have some different regulations about what, and how" to list things on the label.

Foodb, the regular Ranch beans do have a chili like flavor that is nothing like a regular bean. The same bean w/ two labels is still my bet. They are real popular here in Texas but they do not say Texas on the label.

Bottom line is if you can find ranch Style Beans made by con agra... buy em. Thats what we eat here in Texas and we do know beans about our ranch style beans. :~)

The mixture of the three Ranch flavors is my favorite way to eat these beans. The Jalapeno Ranch Style Beans really add a kik to the whole deal. The Sweet Onion adds a balance to the kik. My "beans and wieners" are requested at weddings in my family. It's just a pack of cheep skinless dogs per three can Ranch mixture.
Joe
Edit; Did they forget about the chili I worked years to perfect? Oh well, they do request it for our big family Halloween party.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/06/20 10:13:55 (permalink)
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Originally posted by MikeS.

for years I've made my chili beans with Texas Ranch Style beans. About a year ago I'd bought a case, 24 cans, at WM. I went in about 3 weeks ago to buy another. They didn't have any, no longer carry it.

So I checked 2 other grocery stores, no luck. Then another WM, zip. I went online and found it is a Con-Agra product. Their website sid that Target had them. So I made a special trip to Target. Nada.

So I broke down and used canned pintos, just wasn't the same. Last night I made a batch using Hanover brand Chili Beans. Better then plain pintos but still not the same.

I guess I'm gonna have to break down and pay a ridiculous price to have a case shipped to me.

These beans really made the taste I liked.

I've got a big pot-luck dinner on 3/15 that I want to make chili beans and cornbread for. Guess I better get shopping.


Try Wegman's. I think the one nearest you is on Rt. 28, a mile or so south of Rt. 7 in Dulles, VA. One of the many things I miss about NOVA is Wegman's.

Needless to say that down here in Dallas every single grocery and warehouse stocks your Texas Ranch-Style Beans, 'cept we don't use 'em in Chili!
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/06/20 10:54:26 (permalink)
Your sooo right Jim! Cept they don't say Texas on our labels. Or, do some stores here sell the "Texas" label?
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/06/20 11:03:46 (permalink)
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Originally posted by PapaJoe8

Your sooo right Jim! Cept they don't say Texas on our labels. Or, do some stores here sell the "Texas" label?
Joe


Come to think of it, you're right; I just see the (predominantly) black cans everywhere saying "Ranch Style"; up north the labels include "Texas". Never bought a can, but I assume I've had them at Dickey's, where all the sides come out of a can or tub and the meats are "BBQ'd" with gas!
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RE: I'm at a loss 2008/06/20 11:24:56 (permalink)
Jim, I once like the original Dicky's on Central. Now %&*#@. Try Back Country on Greenville. And have a rib.
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RE: I'm at a loss 2009/01/18 17:05:14 (permalink)
Update;
FoodB mentioned that Texas Style beans were being discontinued.  The Ranch Style beans are still being sold, and taste just like they always did, at least here in north Texas.

Like spicy?... try the jalapeno Ranch Style beans. As mentioned earlier... my fav is to mix all three flavors.
Joe
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RE: I'm at a loss 2009/02/28 23:39:05 (permalink)
Rusty246

[id=quote font="arial, helvetica"]quote: Originally posted by MikeS.

Rusty246, having spent my 1st 41 years in Calif. I don't ever remember being served chili beans made with kidney beans. I didn't stumble upon that style until I traveled east of the Mississippi in 1985. I don't care for kidney beans in any style. But detest them in chili. I just won't eat any chili that is made with them.

Feel free to make yours anyway you like them.

I wonder if it's a W.Va thing? I just make it the way my Mom makes it, have no idea who taught her....my parents as well as my grandparents were all born and raised in W.Va. I was born there but moved to FL at a very early age. Can any fellow W. Virginians help me out?


Rusty, I've got your back if you have mine. Just like you, that was the way my mother and grandmother always made it and it has always worked for me. I grew up in Tennessee and moved to Florida quiet a few years ago.
 
 
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RE: I'm at a loss 2009/03/01 21:27:48 (permalink)
Don't forget, ConAgra didn't make up these beans, they just bought them from another company.  The Ranch Style brand has its roots deep in the heart of Texas. Great Western Foods, the company that created the brand and the Ranch Style Brand Beans product, traces its origins to a commissary established in Denison, Texas in 1872, but it wasn't until 1934 that Ranch Style Brand Beans were introduced to consumers. Lloyd W. McKee, one of the past presidents, is the man credited with the creation of the authentic, western-style recipe.
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