Originally posted by stevekoe
Originally posted by stephiegirl
Why don't they try going to college and getting a degree? No one can say that they couldn't go to college because they couldn't get financial support is crazy because they seem to make more exceptions for people everyday. You can get scholarships for being Indian or for being a minority but they don't just hand over money for being white. When you look at getting financial aid for a white person and they look at the parents income it has to be so low or else they just throw out your application.
Your last statement is pretty ridiculous. Financial aid is not determined by "parents income" (sic), it is determined by Expected Family Contribution (EFC), which is determined by a number of factors, including parents' income. MOST
of the aid dispersed in this country is a factor of EFC. While there are some specialty scholarships available to people of hispanic backgrounds, African-American backgrounds, and the like, there are also specialty scholarships available to students who want to pursue teaching as a major, participate in the INTEL or Westinghouse Science Fairs, or pursue a career in the health services fields (and many, many more). Of course, people who claim that there is no financial aid available to whites are most likely talking about white students with below average grades (relative to the academic institution) or test scores with no defined career goals, who all want to apply to the same 30-40 selective universities -- and with parents who actually do make plenty of money for their children to attend college.
I have people who call my office all the time with EFCs in the $60k plus range who want to know why we can't offer more aid. They have story after story as to why they cannot pay the bill -- but, they are calling me from their convertible BMW on the way to the club to play golf. Minority students, many of whom have EFCs of under $6k will figure out a way to get the money to pay for the education that they feel is worth the money.
I again stand by my previous comments that most folks here wouldn't change places with any illegals (or any minorities, for that matter) because they have better access to financial aid.
Hear! Hear! And we are called Native AMERICANS or AMERICAN Indians for a reason! The last I heard we were here first anyways.
I feel we should take care of our own homes before trying to take on everything else. I'm all for someone trying to make a better life. I fight for rights daily, but I don't think we should just give someone something because they wish it.
I live in a place that has many, many hispanics. I love their culture, the food and yes, they work hard. As long as they stay here I'm cool with it. But sending money home and only being here for money and health care is not cool. Become legal, learn our language, be a part of a productive citizenship...shouldn't be too hard. The red tape does need to be streamlined I agree. Heck, I know someone from Canada that has been waiting for at least 5 years. But to me it shows dedication and a will to be a part of our country that just working here will never prove.
And lest anyone think it's just Mexican illegals that folks are upset with, we have El Salvadorans too. Recent reports indicate that MS-13 has expanded from California to Alaska, Oregon, Utah, Texas, Nevada, Oklahoma, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Maryland, Virginia, Georgia, Washington, D.C., and Florida. The gang has also been exported back to Central America. Though they do have ties with the Mexican Mafia. MS-13 has no ties to al Qaeda but does have an arrangement with the Mexican mafia. Gang members receive protection in prisons from the Mexican mafia and in return pay dues to the mafia.
Many urban cities on the east coast are over run with this gang. Drugs, guns, murder, they got em all. And most, if not all, of the core groups or head honchos are illegal aliens. They bring more drugs over our borders than any Mexican could but do work in close connection with them when necessary. Being illegal pays off for many of these gang members, just slip back over the border and go poof.
To say that scares me is an understatement. So see, I don't care much about the money part of this, but as a mother of 7 kids who have to go out into this world and deal with this kind of behaviour it's not only dangerous, it could possibly be deadly.
To see how powerful they've become and how vicious google MS-13