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2014/08/03 11:49:58 (permalink)

Indiana - The Best State?

As an Indiana native, I found this piece rather silly -- not because I don't think Indiana has attractions for tourists, but because of the criteria used for the  "analysis," such as it was.  http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/best-state-in-america-indiana-for-attracting-tourists/2014/07/31/f672cbd2-1809-11e4-9349-84d4a85be981_story.html?hpid=z3 
 
The comments are worth reading, though. Here's the Roadfood link: one commenter recommends Indiana's BPTs.  Maybe Davydd was using a pseudonym?  
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/03 14:38:02 (permalink)
Well, I can vouch for 5 of the state parks...
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/03 14:45:35 (permalink)
I think the title is deceiving, as far as it goes. But I guess "Indiana has the Best ROI for Tourism Promo Dollars" wouldn't attract readers.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/11 09:56:15 (permalink)
That wasn't me making comments about breaded pork tenderloins but I know who it was. It was from a person who now lives in California.
 
Statistics can easily lie. The simple fact is Indiana is a choking cross roads to get from east to west and vice versa or even north and south and is probably is an optimum stopping place for travelers by vehicle. Indiana does have nicer state parks than surrounding Ohio and Illinois, IMO. I have been to and camped in just about every significant state park in the Midwest this past decade.
 
Indiana attracts a lot of tourism through the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and through its NCAA college sports promotions so I suspect the tourism promotion budget figures reflect that but probably did nothing to lure people.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/11 14:33:05 (permalink)
Everyone in Indiana is a tourist, nobody wants to actually live here.  
 
There are, however, many,many great BPT's served here. 
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/11 22:38:25 (permalink)
Indiana is a place where you go to take a nap!
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/12 10:21:49 (permalink)
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Indiana is a place where you go to take a nap!




It is a fine lace to nap, I do it often.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/12 15:32:57 (permalink)
When I was growing up in the 50s the nickname for Indianapolis was Naptown. I don't recall back then the word Indy ever being used. So Indy had to come about sometime in the last 50 years I think and probably started when they first used it to promote the race as the Indy 500.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/12 18:46:14 (permalink)
16 years in SoCal thru HS- then after 3yr in the Army-- 5yr in Mass.for College- 5yr in Oswego area N Y-- 6 in Ocean Cty N J- made us ready for the 1st move to Indiana in 1978.
 
After living here in Hoosierland for 7 years (78-85) I returned to SoCal for 14 years, (86-2000) retired and then my wife and I CHOSE to move (return to) to the hill country along the Ohio River in SOUTHERN INDIANA.  I can compare the two regions and find good and bad in both, but for us we would not return to SOCAL to live as residents again.
 
The pace of life here is more to our liking, and while we miss some aspects of the Western life , what we have gained far exceeds what we have lost.   I won't go into details, but being a person here matters.... it never seemed to in the society of the SoCal megapolis.   We go West for scenery and for vacation adventures, we LIVE in Indiana. 
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/12 19:53:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby flyseye 2014/08/12 21:26:33
There is much to love about Indiana, but I certainly appreciate the fact that they still have high quality cafeterias, which is one of my very favorite types of Roadfood restaurants.  And you won't find nicer people in the country than Hoosiers.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/12 22:17:29 (permalink)
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    I will second that, but I will qualify your comment about nice people,,We have found super folks in every corner of every city and state we have visited in the USA. All Ethnic Groups, Ages, Cultural Sub-divisions  urban or rural We have wandered into or collided with or dined and snacked with have have had at least some folks who show a real desire to "Meet n Greet" people from other places and share the "stuff" that makes their little corner of America Special. BBQ-Fry Bread- Corn Dogs- Rolled Oysters-TriTip-Johnny Cakes-Kolache-Burgoo-Crab Cakes-Scones-Graeter's Peach-Peter Lugars OR Doe's  It is all part of what makes a part of the USA very Special, and I am pleased to be able to identify with some of that atmosphere.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/13 08:24:59 (permalink)
On our recent travels, Indiana is a common pass thru to other states. We have discovered some of its beauty, and of course Schoops on Hwy 30 in Warsaw. We have been there twice-first to experience their burgers. Fresh ground everyday, the regular burger is 7 oz., and one of the finest I have ever had. On our 2nd visit, Bob and I split a BPT, which was HUGE, and his first. We also had an order of the Irish Nachos-french fries, cheese sauce, ranch dressing, scallions and lots of real bacon. I was skeptical at first as I am a french fry purist( no glop on mine!). But this worked-oh my did it work! The people of Indiana are very friendly, and when they find out I have roots there( Fort Wayne), I become one of them in their eyes.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/13 08:27:36 (permalink)
Well said Al!  In my travels, I would rank Indiana and Oklahoma as the friendliest two states.
 
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/13 08:30:38 (permalink)
  Thanks-lots to share with you all....coming soon!
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/13 17:50:17 (permalink)
Michael and Lisa will be heading down this way to check out a couple of our favorite places and celebrate my 72nd Birthday next week. As always Lisa will cause them to be a day late... but that's ok because Friday's The MOONLITE BBQ adds Catfish, whole and filets, Shrimp, and especially Fried Oysters to the already overpowering BBQ Buffet.  So we will head down to Owensboro Friday afternoon for an early dinner.
  Then Saturday explore the Fossil Beds at the Falls of the Ohio in Clarksville. Michael should see some of his old school chums there... Then it's up to Joe Hubers Family Farm restaurant and distillery and winery before final stop at the local Graeters for a 'taste'.
 
It is always fun to have the Hoffmans around and
sharing some of our favorite places with them will be a real treat.
Wish Annie and Bob were in town too.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/13 18:39:00 (permalink)
Sounds like a fun and delectable weekend. But I thought Mr. Hoffman eschewed buffets?
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/13 18:49:34 (permalink)
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Michael and Lisa will be heading down this way to check out a couple of our favorite places and celebrate my 72nd Birthday next week. As always Lisa will cause them to be a day late... but that's ok because Friday's The MOONLITE BBQ adds Catfish, whole and filets, Shrimp, and especially Fried Oysters to the already overpowering BBQ Buffet.  So we will head down to Owensboro Friday afternoon for an early dinner.
  Then Saturday explore the Fossil Beds at the Falls of the Ohio in Clarksville. Michael should see some of his old school chums there... Then it's up to Joe Hubers Family Farm restaurant and distillery and winery before final stop at the local Graeters for a 'taste'.
 
It is always fun to have the Hoffmans around and
sharing some of our favorite places with them will be a real treat.
Wish Annie and Bob were in town too.


Sounds like a fun weekend for all! And Happy Birthday, Al!
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/13 20:53:09 (permalink)
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Sounds like a fun and delectable weekend. But I thought Mr. Hoffman eschewed buffets?


He does and so do I but.....well, heck......it's the MOONLIGHT!  Very special!!  We'll probably only get there once so we're not gonna say "no buffet"!!!!!!  Besides, I can't wait to try that mutton bbq.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/13 22:00:20 (permalink)
I must admit I take only a token sample of the Mutton BBQ at the Moonlite, I even go 'lite; on the Beef- they use Shoulder instead of Brisket, very tender, but like smoked Pot Roast to me...I do enjoy the chunk Pork and Pork Ribs and the Country Ham, and of course the bonus seafood additions. The Hot Veggies and Poultry offer some good choices also, The Salad Bar has several good choices- I like the crisp pickled Beets and they make a good Potato Salad. and the pies and cobblers finish off the meal with a fine sweet taste
 
All in all it is a pretty fair meal. We look forward to sharing it with our Buckeye friends.
 
 
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/20 07:46:10 (permalink)
Al, I know you live in southern Indiana, not sure exactly where, but you've probably been everywhere in the area.  And you are a big firearms guy.  Last week we finished a week long trip down to the Great Smokies, and coming back stayed at the Horseshoe casino.  I only knew about the place because of your prior mention of the buffet.
 
69.00 plus tax for a very nice room, has got to be the best deal around.  But my wife reports the slots were really tight, so the extra sixty she dropped made up for the room.
 
Anyway, we left there and were just driving some back roads, went to French Lick for the railroad museum (I am retired rail), but it was closed.
 
But it wasn't too far down Highway 56, just past that West Baden resort, where we saw an interesting looking little gun store, and had to stop in.  Turned out it was really interesting, about half museum of different things (some for sale, some not) and half gun and knife store.
 
But talk about interesting, the owner commanded our attention right away when we walked in.  Fox News and Obama was on his TV, and when we remarked on Fox he remarked on Fox and Obama, and made his opinion clear in an, um, let's say definite and vigorous manner.
 
One of his displays was an actual KKK robe and hood, with a few other items, and this was not for sale.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/20 07:57:35 (permalink)
Something happened to that last post, could not go further after the word "sale" -- maybe I hit a word limit?
 
Anyway, the robe pretty much explains his opinion, but I was surprised he would express it so openly to two strangers (with a Northern accent) that just wandered in.
 
I talked to him for a while to try to draw him out, but my non-political wife had fun playing with their mini dachshund, of which we have the same.
 
It was a completely unexpected experience on a little Indiana road, but the next one was just as good.  Still looking for back roads, we stumbled into Shoals IN and saw the Bo-Mac drive-in, and the parking lot being packed with cars was a very good sign.
 
Terrific food, and a sweet and friendly Indiana girl to wait on us.  Wish we had gotten pictures, but we just had burgers and ate in the car as we went.  Very good, and cheap!  I'll bet you've been there.
 
http://www.yelp.com/biz/bo-macs-drive-inn-shoals
 
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/20 10:44:00 (permalink)
The Klan was very big in Indiana in the 1920s (as I recall from my Indiana History class many years ago).  I would like to think the regalia you saw was primarily of historical interest, but you never know.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/20 12:30:31 (permalink)
In the 1950s I remember hitchhiking back to my base in Texas from Connecticut and getting picked up by three guys in the Army who were on their way to Oklahoma (Fort Sill, I think). When we reached Indianapolis around 10 at night we stopped to get something to eat. The first restaurant we went into refused to serve us if one of the three was with us. He was black. We left and went to another place nearby. Same thing. In all, we went to five different places and they all refused to serve anyone who was black. We ended up at a White Castle. It was my first experience with that sort of behavior and I've never forgotten it. I've never forgotten the fact that it wasn't like that at White Castle, either.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/20 14:52:00 (permalink)
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The Klan was very big in Indiana in the 1920s (as I recall from my Indiana History class many years ago).  I would like to think the regalia you saw was primarily of historical interest, but you never know.




I did know a little about Indiana and the Klan, from prior reading, and yes, they were big there.  The surprising thing to us was the way he was willing to make it clear from the beginning just where he stood.  I wondered afterward if it wasn't his way of separating the wheat from the chaff (HIS wheat and chaff), so to speak -- like if you don't like what I say, get the he-- out. 
 
I don't know, that's just my speculation, but I should make it clear what he said.  Here's a paraphrase, but close.  I said something just to start a conversation, like, "Hey, Fox News -- we watch them too."  He said, "I watch them all the time.  And I didn't vote for that (n-word) either."
 
So that was what took us aback so much, the speed and vigor of his remark.  Other than that, it was an experience that I think anyone would like on entering a new store.
 
As we walked up the sidewalk, there was a nice lady tending the flowers she had planted, which we complimented.  The owners lived in the back, with the door open from the shop to their quarters. After we talked for a while, the guy called out, "Mother -- bring (forget the dog's name) out here to meet this lady."  And Mother brought out this cute little poochie, who hit it right off with my wife.
 
The store, the area, the pooch, "Mother" -- it was all kind of homespun, like the Waltons, except for the undercurrent of his remark.
 
Makes me think of the "banality of evil" that we consider with the Nazis, but I hate to label those people in any way -- had the conversation gone a little different, we might never have discussed politics at all, and still had a good time.
 
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/20 14:56:59 (permalink)
Michael, wondering, were any or all of you wearing uniforms?  And did you go inside the White Castle, or drive-through?  I am assuming that few food places had dive-throughs back then, that's more of a later innovation.
 
If you went inside, did the black man go to the counter?
 
Any other experiences either way on that trip?
 
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/20 15:04:08 (permalink)
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Michael, wondering, were any or all of you wearing uniforms?  And did you go inside the White Castle, or drive-through?  I am assuming that few food places had dive-throughs back then, that's more of a later innovation.
 
If you went inside, did the black man go to the counter?
 
Any other experiences either way on that trip?
 


I was in civvies, the three Army guys were wearing their uniforms. I don't know whether there was a drive-thru. We all went inside and sat at the counter.
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/20 16:05:00 (permalink)
You were quite close by when you stayed at the Horseshoe Casino. If you climb the hills behind the hotel on the road leaving the employee pkg lot it will take you past our home about 2.5 miles west of the place. It is easier to find us off of I-64 coming west from the L-ville bridge (exit 118) than to try to do the back roads from the River.
 
About the Klan there is an undercurrent of extreme political activity in Hoosierland. It remains 'active' today buried or disguised in various survivalist and doomsday prep groups. There is a wide spectrum of that sort of thinking, not just here, but Nation-wide, and certainly not limited to the sterotypical images illustrated in the media...but they are definitly here and you deal with them, or not as your personal thoughts allow. I had a number of students in my classes in the SoCal High Desert whose families were out-spoken representatives of this same line of thinking.  In my year in Idaho a chapter of  survivalist group was active on our college campus, looking like an ROTC unit in appearance but teaching 'White Power' as it's core belief. This at a state college in the 1980's.
 
So Indiana is not unique.
 
We do have Drive-in Movies where families gather on summer evenings for double features that don't start til 9pm.(late sunsets) with lawn chairs and sleeping bags spread beside the car or truck so they can relax and enjoy the summer breezes..for $5 a carload.
 
If you ever stop in French Lick again, be sure to visit Larry Bird Ford. If you test drive a new car there you can ask for an autographed Basketball as a gift...nice thing if you have a BBall fan in the family.
 
The hilly country in So Indiana is quite different  from the flat farmlands of the other 2/3rd of the state. That's why it is labeled " KENTUCIANA "
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/20 20:23:44 (permalink)
We're looking forward to visiting "KENTUCIANA" but more looking forward to visiting with Al and Janet!  Oh, and the pups, too!
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/20 20:31:12 (permalink)
  Al, when Y'all leave the Falls , drive past the Big 4 walking bridge , we walked it last week and it was pretty neat , we had frozen yogurt at the shop before the entrance and it was great. i have also been to Big 4 Burgers and beer, not too shabby , located at the old Third Base bar by the River Front. Bigfourjeff.com
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Re: Indiana - The Best State? 2014/08/20 21:20:11 (permalink)
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I'll have to have a power scooter before  I attempt that ramp !   I do hope to make the crossing someday. My college office, back in the early days at Ivy Tech, was in their building at Market and Spring, right inside the Flood Wall. I really like the redevelopment that has taken place with the reopening of the Big 4 Bridge.
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