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nvb

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Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 3:25 PM (permalink)
on the Home page of a restaurants web site how about a video? I put one on mine today and would like comments. And the music sucks! Will even take music suggestions.

www.bbqcorner.net then scroll to the bottom.
 
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    Jennifer_4

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    RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 3:42 PM (permalink)
    Thanks a lot, there are no good BBQ joints in my town and now I'm hungry....
     
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      NebGuy

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      RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 3:49 PM (permalink)
      Nice touch. I like the idea that you have to click a link to see it. So many sites these days blast you with video and sound when you first open their home page.
       
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        Rusty246

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        RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 4:00 PM (permalink)
        Torture, just plain torture. You should be ashamed. Dabbling in food porn. I'll take the grilled chicken salad for starters....
         
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          mayor al

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          RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 4:12 PM (permalink)

          I guess my concern would depend on the make-up of your target audience. I am stuck with dial-up service. I just waited 5 minutes for my PC to tell me it was loading and had hit the 9% mark, when I stopped the process.
          If you know that your people are generally broadband equipped, then you have a good thing going. If many are in the same shape I am, the frustration of slow-load will negate any benefit of the video.
          AL
           
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            Kayleigh

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            RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 4:21 PM (permalink)
            That music was so soothing I feel like I just had a massage and now need a nap. What was it.
             
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              hatteras04

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              RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 4:23 PM (permalink)
              The food looks awesome.

              The music - seriously dude, it's like your food died and they are showing a video montage of it at its funeral. Horrible.
               
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                nvb

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                RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 4:45 PM (permalink)
                Sorry, Al, but I knew that it would be very slow loading on the dialup connections. The pictures on the video are the same ones that are in The Gallery.

                I have no idea what music that is. It came with the program. I'm in the process of downloading a new song as we speak. It's got a little more swing to it.
                 
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                  skylar0ne

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                  RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 4:48 PM (permalink)
                  Hi Slick,

                  Your food looks delicious! However, I would agree that the music on the video is less than appealing. Go to itunes or walmart music or somewhere, and find an instrumental version of the song "Simply Irresistable," by Robert Palmer. It's an exciting song, and would go with that exciting food.
                   
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                    Tedbear

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                    RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 5:54 PM (permalink)
                    quote:
                    Originally posted by skylar0ne

                    Hi Slick,

                    Your food looks delicious! However, I would agree that the music on the video is less than appealing. Go to itunes or walmart music or somewhere, and find an instrumental version of the song "Simply Irresistable," by Robert Palmer. It's an exciting song, and would go with that exciting food.


                    I think that you may want to get some legal counsel before putting any more music on your site. ASCAP or some other group that gathers royalties for musicians may go after you for their cut.

                    This enters the realm of copyrights and the limitations on their use without permission or compensation for the holder of the copyright. You should probably err on the side of caution here, unless you want to start writing checks to Robert Palmer's agent or some other artist's agent.
                     
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                      nvb

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                      RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 6:07 PM (permalink)
                      I've got a T. Graham Brown song on it now, so if he asks I'll be glad to write a check, but thanks anyway.
                       
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                        tmiles

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                        RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 7:14 PM (permalink)
                        Even with DSL it was a slow download for me. It sure looks good though!
                         
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                          roossy90

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                          RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 7:26 PM (permalink)
                          I agree with tmiles.. I have DSL also, and it took FOREVER to load, but the music works for the food.... Cute....
                           
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                            MilwFoodlovers

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                            RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 7:28 PM (permalink)
                            I loved both the music (which I was sure was Delbert McClinton; now I've got to check out T. Graham Brown), the references to Memphis's Tater Red's shop on Beale, and most of all your Q. Congrats. Tedbear is right as the copyright owner may someday ask for a share of every plate you sold since airing the video. You may find permission might be as simple as offering free BBQ whenever the artist rolls through your neck of the woods.
                             
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                              Greyghost

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                              RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 8:01 PM (permalink)
                              Slick,

                              As I am on dial up your video is about a 2 hour download. I did not see any streaming option.
                              Actually streaming is getting a bit old hat and I would recommend podcasting. Call it the Slick's BBQ report or something. Do it weekly and keep it short. A good example for this sort of thing is "The Minimalist" video the NY Times does weekly.

                              Of course I am still downloading your 45MB video, but if it does have music in it that is not yours or that you have not paid royalties for, you are in danger of huge lawsuits.

                              You may think of doing Internet take-out, your food does look very good. Just by being on Roadfood you have a world wide presence. Take advantage of it, I would love some of your Texas BBQ in about a 3 pound tub and shipped direct in dry ice. I don't mind paying for shipping if it is good authentic regional food.

                              I do a lot of Internet take-out and I do not think I am the only one.

                              Think about it.

                              Best Regards,
                              Greyghost



                               
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                                nvb

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                                RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 8:54 PM (permalink)
                                I don't know what DSL speed I'm at but loading on my wife's machine it was about a 40 second load. I don't think I can do anything about the speed because the program I used was some freeware I ran across. Anything dealing with music or video using dial up is going to be a long DL.

                                I also appreciate everyone's concern about a possible copyright infringement, but you may rest assured when the video was produced successfully I fired off an e-mail to Capital with the URL of my site. I guess they'll tell me if I should continue to use that song, or not.

                                Greyghost, I have done this twice in the past. It was the biggest PITA because I don't have the room to store anything.

                                MilwFoodlovers, T. Graham makes some good music if you're into blusey kinda stuff. Moon Shadow Road and Wine Into Water are my two favorites and Blues of the Month Club is very high up there.
                                 
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                                  UncleVic

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                                  RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 9:24 PM (permalink)
                                  I'd suggest converting the video to Macromedia Flash to increase the speed. Degrade it a bit if need be, but as mentioned above, you probably get more people on dialup then broadband. Another option would be adding a slideshow designed for dialup, so a lower connect speed user has an option. (Have your website detect the connect speed and offer the proper format to view)...

                                  Alot of folks are getting broadband today, mainly at their offices... Home users by far are still on dialup. They do their 'high speed' use at the office, and seem to only subscribe to the lower cost at home mainly to check their mail.

                                   
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                                    Greyghost

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                                    RE: Instead of Pictures... Wed, 03/29/06 10:20 PM (permalink)
                                    Once again, Uncle Vic says it all. Wise advice.
                                     
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                                      Kinsman

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                                      RE: Instead of Pictures... Thu, 03/30/06 10:57 AM (permalink)
                                      I like it.

                                      I like it a lot. Memphis Women and good fried Chicken.....Your choice of music is great.

                                      My home computer is as slow as Christmas...but I am aware of it. I know it's slow, and so I don't generally try to load videos or even pages with lots of photos, and I bet most other folks on a dial-up are the same way.

                                      Got a fast connection at work, though!

                                      Nice. I like it.
                                       
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                                        damon2

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                                        RE: Instead of Pictures... Thu, 03/30/06 11:09 AM (permalink)
                                        T Brown is a great choice, I'm running DSL so it's an almost instant video...I watched it all, but more out of profesional courtesy then anything..it wouldn't be something I would normally do. With less then half of households using high speed connections it's probablly a good bet that most people won't watch it, so the question of what you're paying for bandwidth comes into play...it seems most of what I've read says simple is better when it comes to websites...of course this comes from someone who I know, still needs to finish my own site...
                                         
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                                          dreamzpainter

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                                          RE: Instead of Pictures... Thu, 03/30/06 11:38 AM (permalink)
                                          I agree, even on dsl the download took awhile and kept interupting to download more and the gallery was just as clear with more information (like what your looking at) All in all, if the copyright/royalty thing is covered I'd say you have a great addition to your site.... just don't lose the galleries
                                           
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                                            NebGuy

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                                            RE: Instead of Pictures... Thu, 03/30/06 12:29 PM (permalink)
                                            I am on a cable modem. I checked this a couple of times and it took 5 to 10 seconds from when I clicked the link until the video started. You might want to put on note below the link that it might be slow for dial up users.
                                             
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                                              nvb

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                                              RE: Instead of Pictures... Thu, 03/30/06 12:32 PM (permalink)
                                              I guess I'm thinking that the link is there so you can click it or not. I've added (in text) the file size this morning so there shouldn't be any surprises. The galleries are staying and I'll probably be adding more in the future.

                                              Cost on bandwidth is zero because I bought 10,000 MB of space from the host on their business plan. I had my brother-in-law on a different DSL plan load it and it took a minute and ten seconds. Probably too long for many people to stay with it, but it's there for folk that do.

                                              Thanks for the input.
                                               
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                                                cheftom

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                                                RE: Instead of Pictures... Thu, 03/30/06 1:38 PM (permalink)
                                                You can speed it up by making the video size a little smaller. It looks great though. On my cable connection, it started within 5 seconds.
                                                 
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                                                  Greyghost

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                                                  RE: Instead of Pictures... Thu, 03/30/06 4:21 PM (permalink)
                                                  Well, I finally did download the whole video. Great job, Slick. Very professional looking.
                                                  If you ever get out of the food biz, you might try making videos, you really have a talent for it.

                                                  I don't know if you are familiar with the Internet Archive, but you can get a lot of open domain audio and video there. Here is the link. http://www.archive.org/

                                                   
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                                                    roossy90

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                                                    RE: Instead of Pictures... Thu, 03/30/06 7:28 PM (permalink)
                                                    I just tried it again, and it loaded within 15 secs ......
                                                    Must of been a glitch with the DSL the other day.
                                                     
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                                                      roossy90

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                                                      RE: Instead of Pictures... Thu, 03/30/06 7:29 PM (permalink)
                                                      You can also make a powerpoint show with music also..
                                                      Adobe also offers a slideshow....
                                                       
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                                                        nvb

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                                                        RE: Instead of Pictures... Thu, 03/30/06 9:57 PM (permalink)
                                                        quote:
                                                        Originally posted by Greyghost

                                                        Well, I finally did download the whole video. Great job, Slick. Very professional looking.
                                                        If you ever get out of the food biz, you might try making videos, you really have a talent for it.


                                                        Thanks, but I wished I could take some credit for this. It's all in the software. Easy as pie and anyone can do it. Download it and see for yourself. It's free.

                                                        http://www.download.com/Momento-Express/3640-2204_4-10429869.html?sb=1&v=1
                                                         
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                                                          damon2

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                                                          RE: Instead of Pictures... Fri, 03/31/06 12:30 AM (permalink)
                                                          quote:
                                                          Originally posted by Slick

                                                          quote:
                                                          Originally posted by Greyghost

                                                          Well, I finally did download the whole video. Great job, Slick. Very professional looking.
                                                          If you ever get out of the food biz, you might try making videos, you really have a talent for it.


                                                          Thanks, but I wished I could take some credit for this. It's all in the software. Easy as pie and anyone can do it. Download it and see for yourself. It's free.

                                                          well I'm downloading it..thanks..btw, you're peach cobbler looks the same as mine

                                                          http://www.download.com/Momento-Express/3640-2204_4-10429869.html?sb=1&v=1
                                                           
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                                                            UncleVic

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                                                            RE: Instead of Pictures... Fri, 03/31/06 12:32 AM (permalink)
                                                            Slick, upload the video to www.youtube.com (site will convert it to Flash). See if it's any quicker via that format. They give you linking info to use on your website (in a player), and best of all It's Free!

                                                             
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