Is Boneless Brainless?

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2008/08/29 19:50:52 (permalink)

Is Boneless Brainless?

Is Boneless Brainless?

In my prime cuts, I prefer bone in rather than a boneless cut. With the bone you have a map of what you are getting. With boneless you are in murky territory. Boneless cuts can parade as anything and quite convincingly so. With the map removed, anything goes.

Well, that's my opinion and I do think boneless is brainless. Also isn't it nice to have a nice bone for the dog if you keep one? What do you think?
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    Baah Ben
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/08/29 20:27:15 (permalink)
    Meat bones are very bad for dogs..They can splinter. They wreak havoc on your dog's digestive tract. They can cause colitis or worse. Please do not give your dog meat bones.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/08/29 20:39:29 (permalink)
    I prefer boneless. I do not need a map. I grew up in my father's meat business. Bones are profit-makers for the seller.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/08/30 13:35:56 (permalink)
    Boneless for me too. And as far as the dog goes, only a
    SMOKED thick COWBONE for mine.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/08/30 13:47:23 (permalink)
    I prefer many cuts of meat with the bone:

    rib-eyes for the grill
    ham for baking (and I get double duty from a ham bone the next time I make split pea soup)
    cheap cuts (beef bottom roast, or a pork shoulder) for the crock pot
    chicken breasts (esp. for the grill)

    The reason is flavor & moisture, something that the bone adds in these situations. Sure, it's a profit-maker for the seller, but I'm paying for something I want in these cases.
    And, hey- the butcher has to eat, too.
    Ron

    PS: I stopped giving bones to all my dogs long ago, but only because they would always choose the living room rug as their dining area.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/08/30 14:59:36 (permalink)
    After a few years of eating a lot of the new leaner boneless pork we got really tired of it. Then I picked up some loin chops with bone. Funny, they tasted more like I remember pork tasting. I'll still use boneless for braising, stewing and highly seasoned roasts (like one I slather with a paste of sage and garlic), but for plain old pork I look for the bone.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/08/30 15:48:05 (permalink)
    If you are buying your meat somewhere where you are wondering if they are bait and switching you, it might be better to shop somewhere you trust; especially if you are buying prime.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/08/30 19:36:46 (permalink)
    The bone adds flavor to almost any cut...if you doubt it, just cook a boneless chicken breast and a split breast exactly the same (even if you foolishly take the skin off).

    That's why if you are carving impared, the way to buy prime rib is bone in and then have the butcher cut away the chine bone and tie the whole back together for roasting. After roasting the strings are cut and the backbone removed, but even the backbone adds to the flavor.

    That said, the stupidest cut in the meat market is the boneless chicken thigh...a single bone thru the middle that causes no problem whether you eat it as finger food or separate the meat for other uses. And the difference in price is HUGE...

    Boneless has become a meat buzz word as if it offered value. It CAN, but only if removing the bones is complex or if flavor is unimportant, as in dishes where other flavors will overpower the meat and use it as an undertone-stroganoffs, marsalas, ala kings, etc. If you want the meat to stand on it's own,then bones are a plus.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/08/31 00:07:12 (permalink)
    The bone is where the most flavorful, succulent meat is found. Even at a restsraunt I pick up a porter house and gnaw away. If my partner doesnt do the same its "You gonna eat that?"
    Pet get the bone? No way!!!!
    britt
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/08/31 00:45:35 (permalink)
    If given the choice, it's always the meat on the bone!
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/08/31 07:54:00 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Baah Ben

    Meat bones are very bad for dogs..They can splinter. They wreak havoc on your dog's digestive tract. They can cause colitis or worse. Please do not give your dog meat bones.
    This may be the case with poultry type bones, they splinter very easily. But good beef and pork bones, heavy ones, are like gold for a dog. They are attacking the marrow where all the flavor is.
    I wouldn't give a dog any rib bones or the like but a leg type is fine.
    Just keep a casual eye on them, good for their teeth and keeps them occupied for hours. Chow Jim
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/08/31 08:25:42 (permalink)
    Jimeats - I guess I changed the subject so I apologize to Greyhost..A vet, who I obviously no longer go to, once recommended I get these big fresh marrow bones from the butcher. He said boil them off to kill any bacteria and give them to our dog for his teeth. Our dog loved them..It kept him busy, too. But, the grit and sharpness of the bones gave my dog colitis..He then had the condition his entire life. That's all I can tell you.

    Getting back to the post, most chefs will tell you that the bone does indeed add flavor. Especially in the case of chicken. I think it is a reason the "french" presentation of a chicken breast is still pretty popular amongst chefs.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/09/08 13:00:22 (permalink)
    It depends on my mood. I love a nice Porterhouse, T-Bone, Bone in Ribeye, Bone in Filet, or K.C. strip steak. But sometimes I want a 12 oz boneless filet, boneless ribeye, or N.Y. Strip.

    Of course all of the above should be prime, and preferably dry ages for some cuts.

    As for the bone for the dog, I dont have a dog, and if I did he would have to fight me for the bone.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/09/08 13:32:25 (permalink)
    I like bone in. Probably mostly aesthetics, but I like to gnaw on them too.

    Bone in ribeye, please.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/09/08 13:37:43 (permalink)
    I don't care...as long as the steak tastes great...and there's plenty of meat on that bone!!!
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/09/08 13:44:37 (permalink)
    Agree with Baah Ben...my vet told me never to give my dog any bones...could sometimes be fatal. Lots of problems could occur with the health of the dog.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/09/08 13:47:00 (permalink)
    Bone-in for me, too. Just seems more flavorful to me. If torn between menu items at a steakhouse, "bone-in" generally sways me.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/09/08 13:48:53 (permalink)
    What did dogs do in the wild before man came along and sissied them up with all this "custom" food and no bones. I let my dogs have the big beef knuckle bones.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/09/08 16:34:13 (permalink)
    I prefer bone in meat-chicken, a good ribeye,ham, etc.But I also love a good tenderloin.And for us its always pork chops with the bone.What I truly miss, and cant find anywhwere, is a bone in sirloin.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/09/08 16:51:34 (permalink)
    I never buy a ham without the bone in. I am not sure why as I have never bought one without it. It just seems right. In addition to that my dog sure does enjoy gnawing on the bone.

    I cook it at 350F covered with jelly and BBQ sauce. After about 3-4 hours, it is super sliced.

    Paul E. Smith
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/10/01 18:35:35 (permalink)
    I generally enjoy my steaks off the bone. The exception being Arthurs in Morris Plains, NJ
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/10/01 19:03:19 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Twinwillow

    If given the choice, it's always the meat on the bone!


    Same here. The sweetest meat is always nearest the bone.

    There is something buried deep in my brain that gives a primeval satisfaction in consuming such meat - even using "proper utensels".
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/10/01 19:51:43 (permalink)
    I prefer bone-in...meat is much more flavorful...problem is, where is live in PA, you just cannot find a butcher that has meat with bones. They all say that cooks today want it to be easy to make and therefore...boneless. Wish I could find a real butcher!
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/10/01 20:13:11 (permalink)
    I think Ann nailed it when she cannot find bone in sirloin. Sirloin takes up a lot of territory on the cow. All sirloin is not born equal, some of it is terrible and tough, other parts of it are divine for dining. Without the bone map though you are in the dark unless you are a master butcher.

    Give me the bone in every time when buying sirloin. The map is needed.

    Things like pork tenderloin are self explanatory and do not need a map.
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    RE: Is Boneless Brainless? 2008/10/18 02:06:41 (permalink)
    Greyghost,

    Bone in please. It is great to chew on.
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