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Gank16

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Jack in the Box Thu, 01/29/09 2:10 PM (permalink)
Does anyone know why this chain left the NYC area? I vaguely remember it being in this area in the late 70s. I also vaguely recall something about food poisoning or something to that effect. If anyone has any information regarding, that'd be great.
 
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    NYPIzzaNut

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    Re:Jack in the Box Thu, 01/29/09 2:19 PM (permalink)
    I thought they are a Southern chain?
     
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      enginecapt

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      Re:Jack in the Box Thu, 01/29/09 2:21 PM (permalink)
      They're a Western chain, born in San Diego. They're also my favorite large FF chain.
       
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        mayor al

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        Re:Jack in the Box Thu, 01/29/09 2:43 PM (permalink)
        The incidence with the 'bad-beef' was not directly related to the shut-down in the N.E. area (I Think !). I remember how happy we were to see a JIB open in Willingboro NJ in the early 70's. It gave us access to the greasey tacos we love so much. Imagine a 'real' White Castle opening in Phoenix and you have a similar sort of 'cult-adoration' issue !

        The bad beef incident was out West.. Von's Markets suppied some bad hamburger to several JIB stores in several states. As a result there were several deaths. JIB and VON'S were buried in lawsuits and bad publicity. Both eventually rebuilt, but JIB still gets dinged for that problem over 15 years after it happened.

        I don't think the withdrawl of the Business from the NE area was directly linked to this trouble, but it could have been...I don't recall when the JIB in NJ closed...or if it did??
         
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          1bbqboy

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          Re:Jack in the Box Thu, 01/29/09 2:58 PM (permalink)
          That incident changed their whole philosophy. now they cook when you order. I agree with capt., the best large chain.
           taco talk:
           http://theeatenpath.com/2008/06/29/jack-in-the-box-two-free-tacos-day/
           
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            mayor al

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            Re:Jack in the Box Thu, 01/29/09 3:22 PM (permalink)
            Bill
            That deep-fried little devil looked so good to me that I was ready to lick the computer screen.
             
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              ellen4641

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              Re:Jack in the Box Fri, 01/30/09 12:32 AM (permalink)
              Gank16


              Does anyone know why this chain left the NYC area? I vaguely remember it being in this area in the late 70s. I also vaguely recall something about food poisoning or something to that effect. If anyone has any information regarding, that'd be great.

              The food poisoning was later on in the 80's, perhaps towards the late 80's...
              I believe it was well after J in Box  had left NYC area...
              (and there are none left in NY or NJ, for that matter)
              whenever I'm out in Vegas or L.A., I stock up on my Jack balls...
              (those 99 cent antenna balls with Jack's pic on them..
              they make great little stocking stuffer gifts for friends, as well...)
               
              The food poisoning was a real sad case; it was out west.... the boy did'nt want to finish his burger, for whatever reasons, but the mom made him eat it...
              (with nothing but good intentions in mind, of course... she thought she was doing the right thing at the time, just trying to get a little nourishment into her little boys system...)
              Well, you know the rest of the story.......the burger was'nt cooked to the proper temp... and the boy died...

              <message edited by ellen4641 on Fri, 01/30/09 12:35 AM>
               
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                Wabbit

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                Re:Jack in the Box Fri, 01/30/09 2:09 PM (permalink)
                The JIB in Charlotte NC has been doing a "test" with out sourcing the drive thru window. So when you place your order, you are not talking to that store location, it is then sent via internet to the location to prepare. The people figured it out as the "voice" at the window didn't match the person taking the money. The company says the call center is in Texas. This is comfired in the Winston-Salem Journal and by the Associated Press. www.journalnow.com topic fast food.
                 
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                  brittneal

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                  Re:Jack in the Box Fri, 01/30/09 4:06 PM (permalink)
                  In Denver back in thee 70's there was suit against JIB for using kangaroo meat.  As I recall, several stores closed down over it.
                  You might chalk it up to urban legends, but it was a huge deal on TV and in the papers.
                   
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                    ChrisOC

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                    Re:Jack in the Box Mon, 02/9/09 4:17 PM (permalink)
                    I do love a Jumbo Jack when we go to AZ to visit the kids.  I sure wish they would open JIB here!! 
                     
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                      Jennie

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                      Re:Jack in the Box Mon, 02/9/09 6:47 PM (permalink)
                      It was 1992/1993.
                      http://www.marlerclark.com/case_news/view/jack-in-the-box-e-coli-outbreak-western-states

                      Actually, I remember in the 1970s my parents wouldn't take us to the Jack-in-the-Box in Columbia, Maryland because my dad got sick after eating there once.

                      By the way, their $1 Junior Bacon Cheeseburger has been dubbed the "most unhealthful" value menu fast-food item in the country by the Cancer Project.

                      "The $1 burger from San Diego-based Jack in the Box topped the ranking because of its hamburger patty and "hefty helpings of cheese and mayo-onion sauce," said Krista Haynes, Cancer Project staff dietitian.

                      The item contains 23 grams of fat, 860 milligrams of sodium, and bacon, a processed meat that Haynes said was associated with increased colorectal cancer risk."


                      Cheese, mayo-onion sauce, and bacon. Sounds great to me! lol

                       
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                        FriedClamFanatic

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                        Re:Jack in the Box Mon, 02/9/09 8:36 PM (permalink)
                        Wabbit


                        The JIB in Charlotte NC has been doing a "test" with out sourcing the drive thru window. So when you place your order, you are not talking to that store location, it is then sent via internet to the location to prepare. The people figured it out as the "voice" at the window didn't match the person taking the money. The company says the call center is in Texas. This is comfired in the Winston-Salem Journal and by the Associated Press. www.journalnow.com topic fast food.

                         
                        If they start talking with one of those accents that are "East of Pakistan" like Dell Computer and some of the others, I"m outta there!  Bad enough they have low wages and lots of folks who have English as a third language


                         
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                          Food_Fan

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                          Re:Jack in the Box Tue, 02/24/09 11:31 AM (permalink)
                          In the 1970’s there was one in Roselle. NJ and another in Roselle Park, NJ. At that time I would drive from 2 towns away just to get the tacos. We loved those deep fried greasy tacos! They both closed and I remember that Esquire Magazine, in an end of year issue that included obituary’s of people that died that year, listed Jack in the Box as one of those that passed on. I can’t remember if it was after the e-colli incident or not.
                           
                          Years later I was surprised to learn that they still existed.
                           
                          Around 5 years ago Burger King ran a test of different foods and they had the exact same taco as Jack in the Box. I was buying them 2-3 times a week. The test ended and the Burger King tacos disappeared. Too bad, they were a real treat.
                           
                           
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                            1bbqboy

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                            Re:Jack in the Box Tue, 02/24/09 12:01 PM (permalink)
                             
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                              mayor al

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                              Re:Jack in the Box Tue, 02/24/09 12:33 PM (permalink)
                              Bill
                                I wish we had a JIB closer than South Nashville !  I would be in line there for sure! 200 miles is a stretch for even me these days.
                               
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                                enginecapt

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                                Re:Jack in the Box Tue, 02/24/09 12:45 PM (permalink)
                                I have 3 to choose from within a 4 mile radius. They recently dropped my favorite item, the Sirloin BBQ Bacon Burger. Now it's back to Carl's for the Western Bacon Cheeseburger, which is a lesser version of the one JitB sold.
                                 
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                                  HollyDolly

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                                  Re:Jack in the Box Tue, 02/24/09 2:38 PM (permalink)
                                  I remember the deaths on the west coast and also the kangaroo meat deal.
                                  The call center thing to order your food is just weird.
                                  I live here in Texas. When I go to the jack in the Box ,whether in Universal City or Schertz and go through the drive thru, i am speaking to someone who actually works in that place. Truly strange indeed.
                                   
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                                    Budgetgourmet

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                                    Re:Jack in the Box Wed, 02/25/09 12:02 AM (permalink)
                                    Oh my God! Is everyone serious! I thought everyone
                                    had jnbox! I thought the top 3 burger places were
                                    Mcdonald's, burger king and Jnbox! How weird
                                     
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                                      Food_Fan

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                                      Re:Jack in the Box Wed, 02/25/09 11:17 AM (permalink)
                                      Budgetgourmet,
                                       
                                      You thought they were everywhere and we in the northeast thought they were dead. Here’s their locations:
                                       
                                      http://www.jackinthebox.com/locations/
                                       
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                                        Beer&Snausages

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                                        Re:Jack in the Box Thu, 02/26/09 8:09 PM (permalink)

                                        Here's some history and information on JIB from an informational site on FF companies out there on the web. http://www.99w.com/evilsam/ff/index.htm

                                        "Here is a company that has gone through so many lows, it's almost impossible to imagine the highs they experience now.  The company had a product that was regarded by reputation as bad at best, only topped by the E-Coli tragedy.  Everything about them seemed low class.  Jack could do nothing right.

                                        If it takes a great CEO to make a great company, The Jack in the Box chain can thank its fictional CEO, the clown-headed Jack (last name "Box"), for the turnaround.

                                        The fictional Mr. Box has starred in over 300 commercials for the chain, one of the funniest and most effective ad campaigns in history.  Jack is full of wit when marketing the food line with slogans like "They're cheesy...but in a good way" in referring to the cheese sticks, and "We don't make it till you order it...Except the drink...Make it yourself" in reference to the self-serve drink station.  This in addition to significant improvement in product quality, has made Jack in the Box one of the healthiest QSR operations in the world.

                                        Robert Peterson started the original Jack in the Box in 1951 with a drive-thru restaurant in San Diego.  Peterson dabbled in a number of concepts, then started a food distributorship and named the whole company "San Diego Commissary", later changed to "Foodmaker".  Ralston Purina purchased a majority share of Foodmaker in 1968 and started expanding eastward.  This was scaled back with hundreds of closures by the 1980's.  Foodmaker was bought out from Ralston Purina by a management group in 1985, went public, went private, and went public again in 1992.  The company changed its name to Jack in the Box, Inc in 1999.

                                        Before 1980, Jack's mascot clown's existence was that as a fixture on the drive-thru speaker (the whole body of the thing was a clown head that you talked into).  The company decided an image change towards more "adult fare" was in order, and in a commercial, they blew up the drive-thru clown.  The next fifteen years were sort of disastrous, but especially so in 1993.

                                        In 1993, America first heard of E. Coli.  They heard about this when four people died and about 700 became ill from eating undercooked contaminated hamburgers at Jack in the Box restaurants in Washington state.

                                        E. coli bacteria lives in the intestines of cattle, and can be spread to meat through poor butchering.  Even then, it's on the surface of the meat.  Thorough cooking can kill it, so when you're having a steak at a restaurant, you can still order meat rare, and as long as the surface is thoroughly browned, you're fine.  But hamburger is ground steak, so what was the surface is mixed throughout the meat.  That's why hamburgers need to be cooked through.

                                        Foodmaker survived this disaster by working quickly.  They were working with food safety experts within a week of the problem cropping up.  They implemented a HACCP (Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Points) system amongst other unheard of safety measures and became the leader in restaurant food safety.  They settled lawsuits involving ill customers within about a year.  They took responsibility, and they handled the situation.  This crisis should have killed them.  It didn't.  There are few people in the industry who will speak of the company negatively about the E. Coli disaster.  Foodmaker did everything right in handling the problem as best as possible.  Jack in the Box restaurants in the Pacific Northwest, whose sales dropped 80 percent after the breakout, were back to near normal sales levels within six months.

                                        In 1995, the clown came back.  Jack Box began appearing in ads as the company's fictional CEO, starting things out by blowing up the boardroom that blew HIM up fifteen years previous.  The suave, witty, well dressed CEO was an instant smash and led the company to new levels of success (and antenna ball sales).

                                        No campaign, no matter how good, would make up for bad food.  And the product was pretty bad when I first tried Jack.  That was before the "We won't make it until you order it" policy went into effect.  When THAT happened, Jack had a winner. 

                                        The Jack in the Box menu is extensive.  There's the usual line of burgers (highlighted as of late by a sirloin burger line) and an interesting line of alternates like egg rolls, "bacon potato cheddar wedges", and tacos. The unique tacos are pre-manufactured at a plant (beef in a soft folded corn shell) and shipped frozen.  The restaurant deep-fries the taco shell with beef inside, sealed, then pinches them open to add lettuce, sauce, and two small slices of American cheese.  

                                        The Jack in the Box menu is also constantly evolving.  A lot of things have come and gone from the menu over the years.   They've tried many different sandwiches, sides, salads, and sauces.   Who can forget the Bacon-Bacon Cheeseburger, the Pannidos, the Pastrami sandwich...the list goes on and on.  Deep fried macaroni and cheese wedges and breakfast bowls here today...gone tomorrow?

                                        Some of their menu items today don't even use the same ingredients they did a few years ago.  The key component to disappear is Mayo-Onion sauce.  This used to top several burgers including the Jumbo Jack (replaced with ketchup in most of the country, mustard in Texas) and even the Ultimate Breakfast Sandwich.  That one just isn't the same anymore.  Thankfully, I've found I can replicate the classic at home.  In fact, mine is a little better.  My version of Mayo-Onion sauce: 1 small jar Kraft Mayonnaise, 2 tablespoons McCormick Onion Juice, 2 tablespoons minced onion.  Mix well and allow to set for a day.

                                        Most drive-thru's are open 24 hours, and ALL menu items are available during breakfast hours.  Some locations also offer the whole breakfast menu 24 hours, but some cut it off after 11 or so.

                                        Jack in the Box is working towards a national presence which includes a new look at franchising (Jack in the Box hasn't offered franchising in years).  Theyr also co-branded restaurants with convenience stores in a way nobody else did...Jack in the Box actually operated both the restaurant and convenience store.  The "Quick Stuff" stores are typical of modern convenience store chains with lots of gas pumps.  The Jack in the Box restaurants adjacent are full-size operations, not "express" locations with limited menus.  In 2008, Jack in the Box announced it was putting the Quick Stuff stores up for sale.  They were keeping the attached restaurants, though.

                                        A new "innovation center" is up and running trying new ideas.  Some of those new ideas were implemented in a test fast-casual concept restaurant called "JBX" in 2004 and 2005, but JBX was scrapped.  Jack in the Box is also aggressively expanding their Fresh-Mex chain, Qdoba Mexican Grills.

                                        Go Jack Go."

                                         
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                                          porkchopexpress

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                                          Re:Jack in the Box Fri, 02/27/09 2:57 PM (permalink)
                                          They just came to the TN area within the last 5 or so years.
                                           
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                                            LoyalTubist

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                                            Re:Jack in the Box Wed, 03/25/09 12:25 AM (permalink)
                                            When I lived in Indonesia (1995-97) they had a couple in Jakarta. These are gone now. It was good to get a taste of home there.
                                             
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                                              HollyDolly

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                                              Re:Jack in the Box Mon, 03/30/09 10:45 AM (permalink)
                                              Well Jack In The Box is sure thriving in Texas. In fact, just the other day I saw were they now have mini sirloin burgers, just like Burger King.
                                              Haven't tried them yet.
                                               
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                                                Billdog14

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                                                Re:Jack in the Box Sat, 06/13/09 8:01 PM (permalink)

                                                THEY ARE COMING TO INDIANAPOLIS...first time & can't wait!!!
                                                 
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                                                  Navy_Brat913

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                                                  Re:Jack in the Box Mon, 06/15/09 10:05 PM (permalink)
                                                  I remember the sting they suffered over the food poisonings and kangaroo meat.  Then when I was 9 we moved to Connecticut, where I lived until I was 20 and moved to the Oregon Coast, another place without JIB.  Earlier this year I moved to Seattle, after living in several states w/o JIB and I am pleasently surprised by JIB.  I love that they make the food to order, their side salads are above and beyond any of the other fast food chain salads, and they have the caloric content of every item listed next to it.  No surprises.  I don't do fast food frequently, but an occasional foray into JIB happens as there is one near all three of the locations I work during the week.
                                                   
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                                                    1bbqboy

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                                                    Re:Jack in the Box Tue, 06/16/09 9:12 AM (permalink)
                                                    current ad, starring Mrs.I95:
                                                     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUYhcYw1ksw
                                                     
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                                                      MiamiDon

                                                      Re:Jack in the Box Tue, 06/16/09 9:26 AM (permalink)
                                                      I like the taco ad:

                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FQV59b1C-k

                                                      I think I knew that guy in college...
                                                       
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