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Scott -- DFW

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[KC] A quick trip to Kansas City, Kansas Sat, 07/30/05 2:31 AM (permalink)
Here are some quick notes on some recent meals in KC, Kansas. More detail and photos can be found at this link:
http://www.dallasfood.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=44

(1) Oklahoma Joe's (47th & Mission location).

The short and not-so-sweet version is, "I don't get it." The ribs I saw on a few people's plates appeared to have been soft-barked and overcooked to mush--so much so that I didn't bother ordering them. One of their employees told me that pulled pork was their best meat, so I ordered the sandwich of pulled pork and sausage (pictured above). I wasn't impressed with the look of the meat that emerged from a steam-heated bins on the prep line. And eating it didn't change that impression. The pulled pork was somewhat dry, light on smoke, bland, and lacking in brown bits. The sausage--hammy and peppery--was a step up from supermarket-grade sausage, but didn't really hit the spot. The bun, straight from a bag, was airy and flat-tasting. It wasn't a bad sandwich--just a mediocre one, even with some of the chipotle-spiked hot sauce drizzled over it. Their curious baked beans were pretty good, though I favored some of the more traditional interpretations of the dish I had in KC. I'm guessing Oklahoma Joe's is capable of much better work than what I saw on Saturday. I only wish I'd caught them on their A-game.

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(2) Rosedale.

Good grief. I know I should probably have some respect for a place that's survived as long as this joint has. But a joint that serves 'cue as bad as what I got here doesn't *deserve* to survive. The brisket (or sliced beef) was so dry that it crumbled to pieces (see above). The sliced pork stayed together, but was also dry and very salty. Ribs were greasy, overcooked, and light on smoke. Fries seemed like they were of the "freezer section" variety. Beans were better than VanCamp's (for what that's worth), but below the KC average. Wild horses couldn't drag me back in.

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(3) Quick's 7th Street Bar-B-Q.

I came here on the basis of a generic recommendation of "Quick's," but then later found there was an Earl Quick's on Merriam (which, it turns out, was the place I should have hit). The beef sandwich (recommended by the waiter) at the 7th Street location was bland and rubbery (see above). Had it been better, I might have ordered something else. But that gray, unappetizing wad of meat left me discouraged, so I packed it in and moved on. That's one of the dangers of heading out without sufficient planning.

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(4) Woodyard Bar-B-Que.

Ah, yes. The sight of a brick pit (pictured above). The smell of smoke thick in the air. A pitmaster that's eager to show you what he's capable of. Even if the food were to fail, I could tell this would be the most enjoyable barbecue experience of the day. Fortunately, the food delivered. Baby backs were a little soft in the bark and had a slightly too salty dry rub, but had excellent smoke penetration, near ideal texture, and great flavor. Almost the best ribs of the trip. Pulled pork wasn't quite as moist as I would have liked, but also had very good flavor and smokiness--better than most of what I've had in Memphis. The surprisingly good "hot legs" (chicken legs smoked and basted with a spicy barbecue sauce) were an amusing, successful spin on hot wings. Woodyard was easily the best of the meals I had in Kansas City, Kansas.

Scott
http://www.dallasfood.org/
 
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    BuddyRoadhouse

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    RE: [KC] A quick trip to Kansas City, Kansas Mon, 08/1/05 8:30 PM (permalink)
    Scott-I have been in this business and associated with some very experienced folks who are world class pitmasters, and i have never heard the terms "bark" or "soft-barked". Please explain.

    Also, I don't know what your KC familiarity quotient is, but next time you go, I and many others on this site could make some more reliable recommendations. If you already have this knowledge and were just checking out some new places you've never been, I'll mind my own business.
     
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      Scott -- DFW

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      RE: [KC] A quick trip to Kansas City, Kansas Mon, 08/1/05 9:33 PM (permalink)
      quote:
      Originally posted by BuddyRoadhouse

      Scott-I have been in this business and associated with some very experienced folks who are world class pitmasters, and i have never heard the terms "bark" or "soft-barked". Please explain.

      I'm talking about the texture of the exterior surface or crust of the meat. (http://www.nakedwhiz.com/term.htm#bark) If you (or anyone else) can help me find a better way of describing that textural aspect of barbecued meat (particularly ribs), I'd appreciate it.

      quote:
      Also, I don't know what your KC familiarity quotient is, but next time you go, I and many others on this site could make some more reliable recommendations.

      My familiarity quotient is pretty low. Any tips you could give me for Kansas City, Kansas, would be greatly appreciated.

      Thanks.

      Scott
       
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        BuddyRoadhouse

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        RE: [KC] A quick trip to Kansas City, Kansas Mon, 08/1/05 9:54 PM (permalink)
        Point #1: Gotcha

        Point #2: The current hotspots with the locals/the people in the know are LC's & RJ's. I'm not sure why they're obsessed with initials in KC (I think I just answered my own question), but there are several others with regular names. Snead's way down south is a new favorite of mine as of last October. We also enjoy Arthur Bryant's and Gate's, two well established institutions in the definitive sense of the word, that, if you ask a Barbecue Snob, have been going downhill since they personally stopped eating there.

        Although I've never been to Woodyard, I would tend to agree with your assessments of the remaining locations.
         
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          1bbqboy

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          RE: [KC] A quick trip to Kansas City, Kansas Mon, 08/1/05 10:15 PM (permalink)
          buddy, I think his Mo side summary is coming. He was already going to Rosedale and Oklahoma joes', I threw in the Quick's and Woodyard recomendations, since they're all about 2-3 miles from each other. Ouick's, Rosedale, and others in KCK have been around a long time and are representative of the "hillbilly"
          school of KC Q. I expected them to be competent, if not spiced the way Scott would like, but it sounds as if the kids are getting sloppy running the pit.
          As far as Woodyard, I had heard good things from friends and I think it came through with shining colors. That guy really does supply wood to a lot of the other joints in the region. So I'll take credit for the Woodyard and the hit for the Quicks.
          Bill
          http://gasbbq.net/woodyard.htm
          http://gasbbq.net/quicks.htm They liked it more than Scott
           
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            Scott -- DFW

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            RE: [KC] A quick trip to Kansas City, Kansas Mon, 08/1/05 10:30 PM (permalink)
            Bill,

            You got it. The KCMO report is on the way, including Arthur Bryant's, LC's, Snead's, et al. (I skipped Gates on the basis of almost unanimously negative reports from hardcore barbecue-loving locals. I'll probably hit it the next time I'm in town, for the history, if nothing else.)

            As for Quick's, if you look at the photo from the GAS site and the one in the DallasFood report, you'll see that we went to different places. They went to--and you were recommending--Earl Quick's, on Merriam. The place I went to was Quick's 7th Street Bar-B-Q, farther east in KCKS. I don't know if there's any connection between the two joints or not. But you're not to blame for that experience. Had I done my homework better, I would've ended up at the right place.

            Scott
             
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              1bbqboy

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              RE: [KC] A quick trip to Kansas City, Kansas Mon, 08/1/05 10:37 PM (permalink)
              Scott, mirroring something you're familiar with in Texas, those 2 + a few others
              are all run by folks related by birth, but separated by philosophy.
               
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                carlton pierre

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                RE: [KC] A quick trip to Kansas City, Kansas Tue, 08/2/05 12:16 AM (permalink)
                I thought it was a great report and excellent photos. Not every trip report has to be stellar. I really enjoyed reading about your trip and your experiences.
                 
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