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leethebard

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Knishes Mon, 02/4/08 2:09 PM (permalink)
Living here in the New York/New Jersey corridor, we get so much great food of the world!
A favorite of this Italian is the not-so-Italian Knish--that Jewish Potato delight...sold evrywhere, even at Yankee Stadium.
My question: On the roadways of America,how often do you come in cntact with this great treat? How many of you have NEVER had one. Just curious.
 
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    Sundancer7

    RE: Knishes Mon, 02/4/08 3:13 PM (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by leethebard

    Living here in the New York/New Jersey corridor, we get so much great food of the world!
    A favorite of this Italian is the not-so-Italian Knish--that Jewish Potato delight...sold evrywhere, even at Yankee Stadium.
    My question: On the roadways of America,how often do you come in cntact with this great treat? How many of you have NEVER had one. Just curious.


    My personal answer is Never. In addition I have never enjoyed this treat.

    Paul E. Smith
    knxoville, TN
     
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      mikez629

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      RE: Knishes Mon, 02/4/08 3:21 PM (permalink)
      Coney Island/split with deli mustard!
       
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        Twinwillow

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        RE: Knishes Mon, 02/4/08 3:44 PM (permalink)
        quote:
        Originally posted by leethebard

        Living here in the New York/New Jersey corridor, we get so much great food of the world!
        A favorite of this Italian is the not-so-Italian Knish--that Jewish Potato delight...sold evrywhere, even at Yankee Stadium.
        My question: On the roadways of America,how often do you come in cntact with this great treat? How many of you have NEVER had one. Just curious.


        Hah! Knishes in middle America? Surly you jest. Central Market in Dallas sold them (imported from NYC) when they first opened. They no longer sell them. Not enough sales.
        I love potato the best. And, the best of the best were baked by my late, Russian born (Jewish) grandmother.
         
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          jimsock9

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          RE: Knishes Mon, 02/4/08 3:54 PM (permalink)
          The knish. One of the greatest things on earth to eat!
           
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            BuddyRoadhouse

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            RE: Knishes Mon, 02/4/08 5:29 PM (permalink)
            Sadly, even in a major city like Chicago, with all its varied ethnic food options, the knish is a rare sight.

            Buddy
             
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              lynndunham

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              RE: Knishes Mon, 02/4/08 5:45 PM (permalink)
              Never seen one for sale - would love to try it!
               
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                mar52

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                RE: Knishes Tue, 02/5/08 12:02 AM (permalink)
                What is my pleasure?

                What is my knish wish?

                POTATO!

                Living in Los Angeles and being Jewish...

                You betcha!
                 
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                  ernieson

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                  RE: Knishes Wed, 02/13/08 3:25 PM (permalink)
                  I love knishes, but they are impossible to get most places in the US. (They occasionally have a frozen one, but these are not good.) I have long considered making a home version, using filo instead of the usual knish dough. It would be 1) easier (no dough to make) 2) lighter, but hopefully with the same knishness I miss. What do you knish lover's think? Is it worth trying?
                   
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                    exsquidao

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                    RE: Knishes Wed, 02/13/08 3:31 PM (permalink)
                    What's the diffrence between a knish and a pierogie?
                     
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                      tmizerek

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                      RE: Knishes Wed, 02/13/08 3:53 PM (permalink)
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by exsquidao

                      What's the diffrence between a knish and a pierogie?



                      One's Jewish, the other's Polish/Ukraine
                       
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                        leethebard

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                        RE: Knishes Wed, 02/13/08 4:10 PM (permalink)
                        And they're not even remotely the same!! a knish is like a potato patty(Sort of) and a pierogie is like a ravioli filled with potato or sometimes other stuff...not at all the same in looks or taste or in the way they're served and eaten...in other words different. Maybe some of the roadfooders who cut and paste well can download a knish photo. By the way,they are heaven!!!!
                         
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                          Pigiron

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                          RE: Knishes Wed, 02/13/08 4:23 PM (permalink)
                          While purists swear by the "round" knish (the baked kind that you can find at Yonah Shimmels), I am partial to the "square" knish, which is fried, preferably split down the middle and slathered with mustard.

                           
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                            Michael Hoffman

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                            RE: Knishes Wed, 02/13/08 6:04 PM (permalink)
                            Ah for the knishes of my youth. Beautiful gems filled with the most scrumptious chopped liver and made by my Aunt Mae Coleman.
                             
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                              BuddyRoadhouse

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                              RE: Knishes Wed, 02/13/08 8:17 PM (permalink)
                              quote:
                              Originally posted by tmizerek

                              quote:
                              Originally posted by exsquidao

                              What's the diffrence between a knish and a pierogie?
                              One's Jewish, the other's Polish/Ukraine
                              What, they don't have Jews in Poland or the Ukraine?

                              Buddy
                               
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                                ann peeples

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                                RE: Knishes Wed, 02/13/08 8:23 PM (permalink)
                                Mr.Hoffman-would have died for your your Aunts knishes-had a friends Mom who made them with chopped liver, also.
                                 
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                                  Michael Hoffman

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                                  RE: Knishes Wed, 02/13/08 8:26 PM (permalink)
                                  I haven't even heard of them in years. The ones Aunt Mae made had a flaky crust -- not a heavy-as-lead one like those things they sell commercially. And in truth, she wasn't my aunt. She was a close friend of my grandmother, and we called her Aunt Mae.
                                   
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                                    ann peeples

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                                    RE: Knishes Thu, 02/14/08 7:42 AM (permalink)
                                    Yes, those knishes were from my childhood.Havent had any in 35+years...
                                     
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                                      Earl of Sandwich

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                                      RE: Knishes Thu, 02/14/08 8:47 PM (permalink)
                                      I've seen them in Baltimore & Akron, OH but nowhere else that I can recall. What a shame.
                                       
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                                        BT

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                                        RE: Knishes Fri, 02/15/08 8:16 PM (permalink)
                                        quote:
                                        Originally posted by twinwillow

                                        Hah! Knishes in middle America? Surly you jest.


                                        Every supermarket in both Northern CA and southern AZ where I shop carries frozen ones. Nowhere near as good as the real thing in NYC, I admit, but they aren't unheard of.
                                         
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                                          BT

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                                          RE: Knishes Fri, 02/15/08 8:28 PM (permalink)
                                          For those of you yearning for a knish and planning a trip to NYC, the mecca of the knish is actually right down the street (Houston) from Katz's Deli:





                                          There seems to be a debate on Chowhound as to whether there aren't better knishes to be found elsewhere in NYC these days, but this is kind of the old original Lower East side place.
                                           
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                                            ScreenBear

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                                            RE: Knishes Sat, 02/16/08 12:04 AM (permalink)
                                            Where Goest the Knish?

                                            We all have our Proustian memories of the great foods that were part and parcel of our youth. Some have survived and are every bit as good as they originally were, and, alas, some have not.

                                            Sadly, of all the great old staples of bygone days, favorites from all ethnic groups, the knish has suffered most in the bumpy, misinterpreted transition to modern times. In fact, there are things being called knishes that have not even an iota of similarity to what was called a knish, say, 40 years ago.

                                            At the zenith of its gastronomic glory in the middle of the 20th Century, the knish, as served at those two great bastions of Knishdom (Cohen's Knishes, Newark, N.J., and Gershberg's Kosher Caterers, Philadelphia, Pa.) it was not quite an orb, but more beanbag/sandbag in shape, about the diameter of a medium-sized dinner roll. Basic fillings were potato, kasha and chopped liver. If you couldn't decide which kind to have, your best bet was to have all three.

                                            I echo Mr. Hoffman in noting that the crust was flaky, and add that said exterior shell in its better permutations was almost croissant-like, its fallen flakes practically translucent, with ever so slight touches of burn here and there.

                                            Just a guess, but I think these latter day, square patty things of doorstop consistency now being called knishes are easy to manufacture (to say cook would be too charitable), simple to warm-up and have a more profitable shelf life than the real McCoy.

                                            The Bear
                                             
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                                              BuddyRoadhouse

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                                              RE: Knishes Sat, 02/16/08 1:23 AM (permalink)
                                              BT, thanks so much of the photos of Yonah Shimmel's bakery. I love my hometown of Chicago, and I'll put up our culinary scene against any other city in the world for high quality and grand diversity, but we ain't got nuthin' like Yonah Shimmel's here. Props to our New York Roadfood brethren. It just goes to show, no matter how good you got it where you are, there's always someone somewhere who's got something you ain't.

                                              Buddy
                                               
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                                                sizz

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                                                RE: Knishes Sat, 02/16/08 10:47 AM (permalink)
                                                Great pictures BT, suitable for framing.................... very colorful street scene, is it your's?
                                                also good to see you here again......... Frank C

                                                 
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                                                  BT

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                                                  RE: Knishes Sat, 02/16/08 2:01 PM (permalink)
                                                  quote:
                                                  Originally posted by sizz

                                                  Great pictures BT, suitable for framing.................... very colorful street scene, is it your's?



                                                  No. I've been there but didn't take a pic. The photo you like came from Yelp: http://www.yelp.com/biz/yonah-schimmels-knishes-bakery-new-york

                                                   
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                                                    sizz

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                                                    RE: Knishes Sat, 02/16/08 7:44 PM (permalink)
                                                    quote:
                                                    Originally posted by BT

                                                    quote:
                                                    Originally posted by sizz

                                                    Great pictures BT, suitable for framing.................... very colorful street scene, is it your's?



                                                    No. I've been there but didn't take a pic. The photo you like came from Yelp: http://www.yelp.com/biz/yonah-schimmels-knishes-bakery-new-york

                                                    then good cuz as you can see I took out the cab and bicycle and added the old man sweeping the sidewalk ................. a little artistic liberty ......... I hope whomever that pic belongs to
                                                    likes what I did. .......................lol
                                                     
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                                                      Druu

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                                                      RE: Knishes Wed, 08/6/08 4:14 PM (permalink)
                                                      quote:
                                                      Originally posted by exsquidao

                                                      What's the diffrence between a knish and a pierogie?


                                                      Make your own if you can't find them in your town. I used get the most delicous flaky and light knishes on Miami Beach before it became trendy South Beach. They were baked with a saffron egg wash. Just makes my mouth water remembering them. I now live out in the west and all you can get if you find them is potato or meat. The stuff in the freezer section and those square fried things are not real knishes.

                                                      I found a great knish dough recipe on line that calls for sour cream. This is the best that I've found so far.

                                                      For a great kasha knish (not kosher by any means) cook the kasha beef broth with sauted shallots or sweet onions. Then add a little mashed potato to hold the filling together and for some added texture.

                                                      I usually make knishes with leftover mash potatoes from a roast with gravy, and I make the mashed potaoes made with butter, chive creamcheese, roasted garlic, salt, pepper and nutmeg and sauted onions or shallots (this mashed potato filling is great on it's own for a knish filling).

                                                      If the mixture is too dry I recommend adding a little brown gravy or pork gravy (gives it nice sweetness to the filling) if you have it.
                                                       
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                                                        leethebard

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                                                        RE: Knishes Wed, 08/6/08 4:50 PM (permalink)
                                                        Thanks for the info...and welcome to roadfood...Enjoy the ride!!!
                                                         
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                                                          NYNM

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                                                          RE: Knishes Fri, 08/8/08 10:00 AM (permalink)
                                                          I remember knishes well. "Knish men" used to walk around the beach (Brighton, Manhattan, Coney Island)in white undershirts and carrying huge brown shopping bags selling them while you sat on your blanket:



                                                          "Getcha cold drinks! Hot knishes heeyah"
                                                           
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                                                            leethebard

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                                                            RE: Knishes Fri, 08/8/08 1:21 PM (permalink)
                                                            I think the first knish I had as a kid was ages ago at Yankee Stadium..not typical ballpark food!!!
                                                             
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