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UncleVic

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Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 1:54 AM (permalink)
I remember back in the day they used to lay down a leafy lettuce on your sub or burger. More and more I'm seeing this fine, run thru a food processor type texture (picture example below). Personally, the fine cut is good for a taco or burrito, but otherwise I feel it creates more of a mess when incorporated into a sub or burger....


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    markolenski

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    RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 3:30 AM (permalink)
    When I owned my Seven Eleven I was involved in a study to determine what type of lettuce people preferred on their subs. In speaking to 500 people in New England the majority liked green leaf lettuce on their sandwiches. This was a taste test and the people tried sandwiches made different ways. We always cut fresh lettuce on our meat slicer and shredded it.
     
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      doggydaddy

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      RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 6:28 AM (permalink)


      You are right. The distinctions go farther than that. It needs to be a whole piece of -leaf- not iceberg lettuce for a great sandwich. The reason for using a whole leaf is so the juices of whatever you are eating does not permeate into the bread below and make it too soggy to hold. That is my opinion.
      Iceberg is fine for the basic salad of a Roadfood caliber. None of those fancy mixed greens that even granny never forced you to eat as a kid... Iceberg is great for shredding, but I do not like iceberg leafs as a base for a sandwich.

      mark
       
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        Fieldthistle

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        RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 6:34 AM (permalink)
        Hello All,
        On sandwiches, I like leafy, but on subs I like shredded.
        The only problem with shredded lettuce is I'm not sure
        of the quality of the lettuce. I prefer the green part
        of lettuce, while they seem to shred the head of lettuce
        when it is half used and mostly white. I sound picky...
        yeah, even to myself, but I like green lettuce.
        Take Care,
        Fieldthistle
         
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          ann peeples

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          RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 7:15 AM (permalink)
          I like shredded lettuce on commercially made sandwiches-dont have any particular reason.At home,I like whole leaves of romaine.Go figure!!!
           
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            dreamzpainter

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            RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 7:23 AM (permalink)
            I can't remember ever having a hoagie with anything but shredded lettuce
             
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              morningglory

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              RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 9:00 AM (permalink)
              For most sandwiches that one would dress with a combination of mayo/mustard, I like nice leafy green lettuce, however, for sub/hoagie type sandwiches, dressed with oil/vinegar, I like shredded lettuce, to sop up and hold the dressing. I would prefer that it be a rich green lettuce, as well, but most of the time it is shredded white inner leaves of iceburg, which is adequate.

              When I was growing up in NJ, halfway between NYC and Philly, most of the local mom and pop Italian deli hoagies had shredded "green" lettuce, whether it was romaine or iceburg, that included rich outer greens, and those hoagies were to die for. I think it was the quality of the meats and cheeses and the oil and vinegar dressing that clung to the shredded lettuce. Yummm.... a taste I will never forget.

              Haven't had a great hoagie in years, except at home. Sigh.
               
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                Ashphalt

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                RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 9:42 AM (permalink)
                I've always thought that shredded lettuce was a convenience/economy factor for high-volume sandwich shops. It employs cheap iceberg, uses the white stems people would otherwise consider poor quality, and is quick and easy to handle in a sandwich line. It also seems that in some areas it has an "eating out" image.

                I recall travelling in Eastern PA some years ago when I had to provision lunch for my co-workers. After a week, a couple of them said if they had to eat another sandwich with chopped lettuce, I was going to be in big trouble. I asked at the hotel and a couple of sandwich places and they couldn't understand how I would want to buy a sandwich with plain lettuce. After all, you can make that at home. I finally had to get sandwiches without lettuce and go to a supermarket, buy a head of green leaf and some paper towels and ziplocks, and prep leaves in the bathroom.

                IMO chopped is fine for a sub shop or tacos. For a good club sandwich, a burger, or any other sandwich I can think of, it better be a nice leaf lettuce.
                 
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                  kland01s

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                  RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 10:08 AM (permalink)
                  I always ask for no lettuce (or tomato either) on my sandwich of any kind. I feel that lettuce has too strong of a taste that takes away from the other ingedients.
                   
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                    Ashphalt

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                    RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 10:15 AM (permalink)
                    There is one variant I haven't had in a while, but really liked. At one deli I used to frequent they would take leaf lettuce, tomatos, and any other veggies and chop them coarsely together before sitting them on top of cold cuts and cheese and sprinkling with oil and vinegar for an Italian sub. It was kind of like a chopped salad mixing with the sandwich ingredients and it worked for me.
                     
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                      Sundancer7

                      RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 7:50 PM (permalink)
                      I definately like my lettuce shredded and I have discovered mayo with pepper added (lotsa pepper). Adds great flavor to all my sandwiches.

                      I hate to say this but KFC is offering that condiment and I really like it.

                      Paul E. Smith
                      Knoxville, TN
                       
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                        Michael Hoffman

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                        RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 9:09 PM (permalink)
                        I grew up eating subs that had no lettuce, and certainly no tomato. They just had the meats, cheese, perhaps roasted peppers, onions, olives, olive oil, oregano, salt and pepper. That's the way they came in any store I ever knew of. That's how I make them to this day. And that's why I see no reason to buy what they call subs today.
                         
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                          Adjudicator

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                          RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 9:24 PM (permalink)
                          Lettuce -- Only multiple multitudes of crisp full leaves for me; devoid of all rust spots and similar "thick & chunky" sections. Thanks!
                           
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                            Greymo

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                            RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 10:01 PM (permalink)
                            If I am going to have lettuce on a sandwich, I want one crisp dark green leaf of lettuce; that shredded stuff reminds me of cheap chain sandwiches.
                             
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                              tkitna

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                              RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Tue, 03/6/07 11:13 PM (permalink)
                              As long as its crisp, I dont care either way.
                               
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                                JBarry713

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                                RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Wed, 03/7/07 12:13 AM (permalink)
                                quote:
                                Originally posted by doggydaddy



                                You are right. The distinctions go farther than that. It needs to be a whole piece of -leaf- not iceberg lettuce for a great sandwich. The reason for using a whole leaf is so the juices of whatever you are eating does not permeate into the bread below and make it too soggy to hold. That is my opinion.
                                Iceberg is fine for the basic salad of a Roadfood caliber. None of those fancy mixed greens that even granny never forced you to eat as a kid... Iceberg is great for shredding, but I do not like iceberg leafs as a base for a sandwich.

                                mark


                                I like the crunch of shredded iceberg lettuce as topping on subs/grinders, but you've made a good point that using whole leaf lettuce is better for the construction of the sandwich. All-in-all, as long as the lettuce is fresh and crisp, it doesn't make too much of a difference taste-wise to me.
                                 
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                                  mr. sausage

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                                  RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Wed, 03/7/07 3:12 AM (permalink)
                                  olives and roasted peppers? sounds fancy. where'd you grow up?
                                  by the way, you can order subs without lettuce and tomato. really
                                  quote:
                                  Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

                                  I grew up eating subs that had no lettuce, and certainly no tomato. They just had the meats, cheese, perhaps roasted peppers, onions, olives, olive oil, oregano, salt and pepper. That's the way they came in any store I ever knew of. That's how I make them to this day. And that's why I see no reason to buy what they call subs today.
                                   
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                                    Michael Hoffman

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                                    RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Wed, 03/7/07 10:49 AM (permalink)
                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by mr. sausage

                                    olives and roasted peppers? sounds fancy. where'd you grow up?
                                    by the way, you can order subs without lettuce and tomato. really.
                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

                                    I grew up eating subs that had no lettuce, and certainly no tomato. They just had the meats, cheese, perhaps roasted peppers, onions, olives, olive oil, oregano, salt and pepper. That's the way they came in any store I ever knew of. That's how I make them to this day. And that's why I see no reason to buy what they call subs today.


                                    New Haven, Hamden, Bethany, Orange and Milford, Connecticut.
                                     
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                                      unabashed

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                                      RE: Lettuce - Fine or Leafy? Sun, 06/10/07 11:41 PM (permalink)
                                      ive worked in the business for many years and i would shred the lettuce but i blend different kinds even use cabbage its all shreeded together and mixed some subs id use a little carrot how bout shre the onion you could take it verry far im not saying that im the only one that came up with my style but im the only one i know of in my area.....
                                      try it and see what you can come up with and let is know.
                                       
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