Live Earth Concert

Anyone out there watching this?

I'm rockin' as we speak!

Me too! Lately I'm a big fan of Nine Inch Nails, Linkin Park and other loud angry stuff but it was great to see Genesis together and Duran Duran. I'm embarressed to know so many of the words. My children keep giving me the hairy eyeball

Start collecting 8-tracks and they'll expedite the paperwork to the "home"!

I avoid watching religious programming.

All I saw was a few shots of the cars pouring into the Meadowlands Stadium parking lot on the NY news. Wonder how much gas they used to get there.

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Originally posted by RubyRose

All I saw a few shots of the cars pouring into the Meadowlands Stadium parking lot on the NY news. Wonder how much gas they used to get there.

And here's the horror Al Gore has caused in his quest to save the Earth through his new religion:

A Daily Mail investigation has revealed that far from saving the planet, the extravaganza will generate a huge fuel bill, acres of garbage, thousands of tonnes of carbon emissions, and a mileage total equal to the movement of an army.

The most conservative assessment of the flights being taken by its superstars is that they are flying an extraordinary 222,623.63 miles between them to get to the various concerts - nearly nine times the circumference of the world. The true environmental cost, as they transport their technicians, dancers and support staff, is likely to be far higher.

The total carbon footprint of the event, taking into account the artists' and spectators' travel to the concert, and the energy consumption on the day, is likely to be at least 31,500 tonnes of carbon emissions, according to John Buckley of Carbonfootprint.com, who specialises in such calculations.

Throw in the television audience and it comes to a staggering 74,500 tonnes. In comparison, the average Briton produces ten tonnes in a year.

The concert will also generate some 1,025 tonnes of waste at the concert stadiums - much of which will go directly into landfill sites.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=466775&in_page_id=1879

Well now I wish I'd have driven all the way to NY, instead of staying put at home today to watch the telecast.

I'm feeling so left out as I'm sure I'm the only one on the entire planet doing so.

I cringe at the amount of fossle fuel I could be using driving about today, but here I am.

I know, I'll fire up my generator! Gotta pitch in and do my part!!!

Fear not. I put a couple of hundred miles on my SUV today.

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Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

Fear not. I put a couple of hundred miles on my SUV today.

Excellent!

But I bet you get better gas mileage than I do!

I don't know. I got a little over 21 mpg today on my trip to get a couple of hotdogs.

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Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

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Originally posted by RubyRose

All I saw a few shots of the cars pouring into the Meadowlands Stadium parking lot on the NY news. Wonder how much gas they used to get there.

And here's the horror Al Gore has caused in his quest to save the Earth through his new religion:

A Daily Mail investigation has revealed that far from saving the planet, the extravaganza will generate a huge fuel bill, acres of garbage, thousands of tonnes of carbon emissions, and a mileage total equal to the movement of an army.

The most conservative assessment of the flights being taken by its superstars is that they are flying an extraordinary 222,623.63 miles between them to get to the various concerts - nearly nine times the circumference of the world. The true environmental cost, as they transport their technicians, dancers and support staff, is likely to be far higher.

The total carbon footprint of the event, taking into account the artists' and spectators' travel to the concert, and the energy consumption on the day, is likely to be at least 31,500 tonnes of carbon emissions, according to John Buckley of Carbonfootprint.com, who specialises in such calculations.

Throw in the television audience and it comes to a staggering 74,500 tonnes. In comparison, the average Briton produces ten tonnes in a year.

The concert will also generate some 1,025 tonnes of waste at the concert stadiums - much of which will go directly into landfill sites.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=466775&in_page_id=1879

I was wondering about that very thing. Thanks for the info, Mr. Hoffman.

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Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

I don't know. I got a little over 21 mpg today on my trip to get a couple of hotdogs.

Nope, I drive a '69 Chevy Step Van with a 350 big block and a Holley 4 barrel.
I just about doubled my mpg (and speed) by re-gearing my rear end to a 4/11 ratio
If I'm lucky enough to get a tail wind I can now rejoice at 15-17 mpg.

Bicycle is another story. I can get 20-25 mphd (miles per hotdog)!

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Originally posted by desertdog
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I was wondering about that very thing. Thanks for the info, Mr. Hoffman.



My pleasure.

This will do for saving the earth what the Live Aid concerts did for stopping African hunger.

In other words, nothing, except for making a ****load of rich musicians feel smug and self satisfied at their selfless devotion to "the cause".

(how come no one ever came up with a series of live concerts promoting birth control in Africa?)

Hey Agnesrob, I thought a the lot of the newer pop stuff sucked a little but overall was a good day for tunes. How 'bout yourself?

Some older rockers showed they still have some teeth (even if there may have been some Poligrip involved) in the ax!

I somehow found a way to enjoy a lot of it, and though I'm an old tree hugger from way back, I never once got the urge to run out and buy a hybrid.

Maybe my old Chevy parked out front sucessfully blocked out all the brainwash waves emanating from the tube.
That or maybe it was the central air blasting constantly, trying to keep us in relative 82 degree comfort.

Regardless, it had some Rock On !

Well I gotta go. I suddenly have this urge to change all of my lights to low energy fluorescent and build a windmill..............

http://liveearth.msn.com

All of the above notwithstanding, I'm just wondering if anyone has thought about Live Earth from the point of view that anything to raise environmental awareness might be a good thing.

Guess I'm not alone. A native Tennessean, I find Al Gore an embarrassment. He did't win his home state in his run for the Whitehouse. I proudly drive my Dodge Ram pickup, my wife has her SUV.
Ole Rouxdog

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Originally posted by GordonW

All of the above notwithstanding, I'm just wondering if anyone has thought about Live Earth from the point of view that anything to raise environmental awareness might be a good thing.

MIGHT be a good thing? I hear 'ya, brother!

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Originally posted by GordonW

All of the above notwithstanding, I'm just wondering if anyone has thought about Live Earth from the point of view that anything to raise environmental awareness might be a good thing.

Exactly!
The Clean Air Act signed by Nixon didn't kill anybody I'm pretty sure. Though the lead industry did take quite a hit!
That was a mandate, not a message.
Mandates will come later.
Maybe when say...Homestead Florida becomes the new beach front property.
Why not hedge your bet and buy now for the grandkiddies!

Imagine what we'd choking down now if Nixon hadn't sign that bill (and there wasn't even free music) and that was before we started the wholesale destruction of our rainforests.

Yeah yeah yeah I know, what another load of bunk!
Rainforest's, hmmph, highly over rated! Who needs 'em?!!

"Yeah yeah yeah I know, what another load of bunk!
Rainforest's, hmmph, highly over rated! Who needs 'em?!!"

Hopefully you are jesting here? If not you need a serious reality check, sir.

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Originally posted by GordonW

All of the above notwithstanding, I'm just wondering if anyone has thought about Live Earth from the point of view that anything to raise environmental awareness might be a good thing.

Amen! But to argue with Mr. Hoffman, they did use public (mass) transportation to and from the events, and if you where at the stadiums or home, you'd probably created an equal amount of trash. Because it all fell on one location, don't place the blame on them.
I truly enjoyed Mr. Gore's effort of alerting us to all this waste that happens on a minute by minute basis. Now to get every household to replace at least 2 incandescent bulbs with the compact fluorescents, we'd be going one major step forward. What happens now wont effect us, but it's our kids and their kids we're looking out for.

UncleVic, I respect your opinion. Please enlighten me concerning light bulbs? I do think we use the florescents you mention, if Walmart has them when shopping. How does this "feel good" shopping help my children and grand children?
Ole Rouxdog

Hello All,
We have a world-wide problem. While cynicism is cute and
it is easy to punch the nose of those we differ
with politically, it does nothing to educate us on solving
the problem.
It is a small gesture, but I have bought from Costco
an eight-pack Conserv-Energy packet of fluorescent bulb.
I will use less energy and save $56 per bulb. I save and
help use less energy. That is just one example of what one
person can do. And I won't do it to feel good, but to do something
that is wise and good.
The concert was to raise awareness to an issue and also gave
suggestions on how individuals could help. Our current system
requires huge waste and ignorance on how to deal with pollution,
trash, etc.. The message behind the concert is for us to find
new ways so such waste, pollution, etc. can be avoided or used so
that our energy and ecological problems can be addressed in a
wiser way. Energy is wasted by the concert that seeks ways to
promote an answer. How much energy is wasted in a war that seems
to have no end or answers?
We are constantly wanting miracle cures or silver bullets to problems
that often sound so strange and are unrealistic.
We are constantly ridiculing people who alert us to problems, ususally
for political, economical, social, or religious reasons, and make fun
of them or their answers.
Where there is a problem, we can take small steps if we fear giant leaps.
If I have a shed next to my house, and the shed is on fire, I do not say
it is a small fire and only wait until it spreads to my house before I become
worried or do something about it.
Nor do I care about my grandchildren at the moment my house is on fire.
This is my house on fire, and I am not suppose to care because some cynical souls
want to make fun of the idea of fire?
Take Care,
Fieldthistle

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Originally posted by rouxdog

I do think we use the florescents you mention, if Walmart has them when shopping. How does this "feel good" shopping help my children and grand children?
Ole Rouxdog

The shopping that makes you "feel good" isn't what helps your children and grand children. What helps them is that you are making a conscious decision to use less energy by buying those light bulbs (and whatever else you may be doing).

Every little bit helps when a bunch of folks do it. Thats all this is about.

I am glad to hear you are helping out Rouxdog!

Fieldthistle, I respecct your opinion as well as UncleVic's.... Tell me, how does my selection of a light bulb save me $56.00 per bulb??
Here in New Mexico, "wind farms" are being developed at a rapid rate. These use only one natural resource, WIND...... We have plenty of it!
My wife and I are practical non extravagant folks who enjoy a simple life.
I don't plan to point fingers nor run around fretting daily about how Nancy and I choose to live.
Tell me if I'm wrong.
Ole Rouxdog

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Originally posted by GordonW

All of the above notwithstanding, I'm just wondering if anyone has thought about Live Earth from the point of view that anything to raise environmental awareness might be a good thing.

It takes a concert to raise environmental awareness? Give me a break. We in Minneapolis had Prince's 7/7/7 concert trifecta. I don't think anyone was aware here. Me, I went to the Hamel Rodeo and had a good time. So what was this concert again? Where does the money go? Sounds more like a self-serving adventure to me by a lot of people that want to make a buck or Al Gore still scheming and dreaming of ways to grab the Democratic nomination for president again because he knows he could not do it straight up.

Personally I cannot stand lame-brained movie stars and rock stars jetting around, living extravagantly and preaching to us average people about saving this or that. They don't practice what they preach. But they are smart enough to know a Prius will go faster than a Hummer H1 if you want to try to elude the police.

Davydd,
I think I love you( my wife agrees
as well)!
Ole Rouxdog!

When Al and the glitterati start actually living a true green lifestyle then I will listen to their message. The whole movement is taking on the aspect of Catholicism before the Reformation: Al as Pope (do not question me, I know best, the selling of indulgences (carbon set asides).